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White House – Illegal Immigrants Entitled to Social Security and Medicare

White House – Illegal Immigrants Entitled to Social Security and Medicare

Gird your loins, taxpayers.

According to a new report from FOX News, illegal immigrants who fit certain criteria set forth by Obama last week will be eligible for taxpayer funded programs:

Illegal immigrants to be eligible for Social Security, Medicare

Illegal immigrants who apply for work permits in the U.S. under President Obama’s new executive actions will be eligible for Social Security and Medicare, the White House says.

Under the sweeping actions, immigrants who are spared deportation could obtain work permits and a Social Security number, which would allow them to pay into the Social Security system through payroll taxes.

No such “lawfully present” immigrant, however, would be immediately entitled to the benefits because like all Social Security and Medicare recipients they would have to work 10 years to become eligible for retirement payments and health care. To remain qualified, either Congress or future administrations would have to extend Obama’s actions so that those immigrants would still be considered lawfully present in the country.

As Instapundit says, who could have seen this coming?

David Gergen of CNN is no conservative but even he sees the potential for disaster in the president’s immigration plan:

Obama’s dangerous move on immigration

There is something deeply troubling about President Obama’s decision to grant legal safe haven to unauthorized immigrants by executive order.

It isn’t the underlying policy that is troubling. Just the opposite. We have known for years that we would never deport some 11 million people from our midst. Many have become hard-working, productive members of our society, and Congress, working with the White House, should long ago have provided them a safe pathway out of the shadows…

For a president to toss aside such deep traditions of governance is a radical, imprudent step. When a president in day-to-day operations can decide which laws to enforce and which to ignore, where are the limits on his power? Where are the checks and balances so carefully constructed in the Constitution?

If a Democratic president can cancel existing laws on immigration, what is to prevent the next Republican from unilaterally canceling laws on health care?

Indeed. For that matter, what’s to stop the next Republican president from doing any number of things Democrats will detest based on the precedents Obama has set?


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This will not stand.

“Entitled.” There’s that word again.

And why are people who work always described as “hard-working”? The term is used as a reflexive or obligatory adjective for everyone from illegals to taxpayers. Surely some of them/us are time-wasters, clock-watchers, and just phoning it in. Many of us do what we have to do to keep a particular job, but we are not exactly setting the world on fire with actual hard work. Of course, I don’t describe myself or anybody else among the LI commentariat in these terms — other people only.

Okay and this is going to be stopped, how?

Obama is just flipping off the whole country now.

How do we cut his golf budget? Or do they hide that in the Secret Service?

What is Obama’s current stolen presidential powers will carry over to the next president should he or she choose to use them and a precedent has been set with which to steal more power as needed.

That being the case, the last place I’d look for anyone to oppose this is the GOP leadership.

IANAL so I’m hoping the legal minds on this board can explain to me how/why deferral of deportation confers the status of lawful presence on any person who wasn’t already lawfully present. Am I wrong to have serious doubts about the legality of providing Social Security numbers and work permits to people who shouldn’t be here?

    Ragspierre in reply to AZ_Langer. | November 28, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Wul, yah. The whole thing is illegal as hell. There is no stinking way you can get there from here (here being what the law allows).

    This whole deal is Cloward-Piven writ large…and in our faces.

    platypus in reply to AZ_Langer. | November 29, 2014 at 12:32 am

    You nailed it. But until I see actually documents published in the Federal Register, I don’t believe ANYTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED despite the global warming spewing out of Choomer-in-chief.

    This whole thing is a shiny object to me but I don’t know if the GOP knows it’s a shiny object even while they act like it’s real. We’re talking DC politicians here, slime of the lowest order capable of any depravity.

What’s the difficulty with deportation? Any trip is reversible. If there’s enough incentive those who walked north will find a way to walk south.

    Ragspierre in reply to dckubler. | November 28, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    Walk? Hell, they can all ride, if not fly. They’ve generally done quite well for themselves (relatively, which WHY they’re here), and often by nippling up to the tax-payer teet.

This is as if we have no control over the apparatus (the GOP Congress) to check this lunatic. However, too many of us are all too happy to have it be in control of the “Wiemar Republicans.”

    I’m happy to report that fringe nuts no longer have any seat at the table. They were able to co-opt and ruin the Tea Party, but fortunately the influence of those who are so loud on the internet fell to nothing at the polls.

    So enjoy your playground insults of our leadership. Nobody gives a loose stool anymore.

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Estragon. | November 29, 2014 at 10:12 am

      I care deeply, and you, sir, are full of shit on how many do or do not care. You are also an excellent example of why the GOP will once again lose a presidential election by abandoning its own base, and worse, calling them schoolyard perjoratives.

      You’ve even called Professor Jacobson “ignorant” and “an idiot” for once supporting Newt Gongrich. Why are you even on this blog?

      Ragspierre in reply to Estragon. | November 29, 2014 at 10:55 am

      I consider you and the one-note Samba of the “Fine” to be bookends. I get sick of you both. And pretty much for the same reason. YOU are the extremists.