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Kay Hagan: Depends on what the meaning of “you can keep your health plan” is

Kay Hagan: Depends on what the meaning of “you can keep your health plan” is

Memories of promises broken, as Harry Reid’s super PAC blames Thom Tillis death of Trayvon Martin.

To be fair, Senator Kay Hagan wasn’t the only Democrat who said people would be able to keep their healthcare plans and doctors under Obamacare. Lots of Democrats made that claim, including Obama and many of his supporters in the media.

It’s funny how they’re so tongue tied now. Kay Hagan was asked about her position in a TV Interview Tuesday night.

Transcript and video by the Washington Free Beacon:

Kay Hagan Won’t Say She Regrets Falsely Telling People They Could Keep Their Health Plans

Senator Kay Hagan (D., N.C.) refused to answer whether she regrets repeating President Obama’s famous lie that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.”

Hagan talked about failed legislative proposals to help North Carolinians keep their health care plans instead of expressing regret over her endorsement of President Obama’s statement in a TV interview Tuesday night.

“But if you knew then what you know now, do you think you would have said it that many times?” the anchor asked.

Here’s the video:

The North Carolina senate race took an especially nasty turn recently when Harry Reid’s super PAC tried to blame Hagan’s Republican challenger Thom Tillis for the death of Trayvon Martin.

Joel Gehrke of National Review reported:

Harry Reid’s Super PAC Ties GOP Candidate to Trayvon Martin’s Death

Senate majority leader Harry Reid’s super PAC tied Republican Senate candidate Thom Tillis to the death of Trayvon Martin in an attempt to motivate black voters to support Tillis’s opponent, North Carolina senator Kay Hagan.

“Tillis won’t fight for us,” the ad says, per The New Yorker. “Instead, he made it harder for communities of color to vote, by restricting early voting and voter registration. Tillis even led the effort to pass the type of ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws that caused the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.”

There have also been “Uncle Tom” accusations directed at Tillis.

The New Yorker’s Jay Caspian Kang notes that the ad “relies on a fallacy” that Martin died because of Florida’s Stand Your Ground law. “One would hope that such cynicism and willful manipulation would not be inevitable, but, given the stakes in the upcoming week, in which control of the Senate may hinge on whether or not Hagan can hold off Tillis’s late charge, and with millions more dollars from super PACs flooding the state, North Carolinians should expect more of the same from both sides,” he writes.

North Carolinians are getting a lot of that, lately. A Democratic congressional candidate called Tillis “Uncle Tom” during a rally with Hillary Clinton over the weekend, while a flyer passed out to black churchgoers depicts a lynching and suggests that President Obama will be impeached if Tillis wins.

According to Real Clear Politics, Hagan is leading Tillis by only one point.

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A better question to as instead of why you voted for Obamacare is “Why did you not research the bill to see what was in it so that you could determine what would happen if it was enacted?”

    Estragon in reply to Cleetus. | October 31, 2014 at 5:02 am

    Exactly – and for any bill, the same standard.

    It is not enough the bill has a pleasing title, or that it hopes to address a problem. Does it really address that problem? Does it do so effectively? Efficiently? How will we know it is working right?

    You need to be convinced of all these things before voting for any new law. And especially to be able to defend the law you voted to impose.

TrooperJohnSmith | October 30, 2014 at 9:19 am

I would point out that there is NO equivocation, room for interpretation or actual or implied caveat in the statement, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, and if you like your health insurance, you can keep it. Period.”

Once, she spins around that, I’d ask the follow-up, “So, based on your obvious misreading of the President’s message, have you considered that you may not be smart enough, clever enough, or perhaps not even tough enough to be a United States Senator?”

See, you can’t really stop a lying liar from lying.

They just do, and they will.

In court, you ask the questions, and you stand as close to the jury as you can, and you turn your back to the witness, and engage the jury with your eyes, and you let the liar lie.

Then you and the jury know. The witness is lying to you and me. She cannot answer the questions truthfully, directly.

Then, if you vote for her (leaving the court analogy) again, it’s because you support being lied to. You like being screwed.

Over $100 million spent on this race so far. $30 million of it alone spent on extremely negative anti-Tillis ads by the Hagan campaign and out of state orgs. If they are truly neck and neck as recent polling says, Tillis ought to win on the basis of higher turnout via anti-Obama sentiment. On TV and radio, it’s been a river of lies about Tillis.

Tillis, if elected, will be an obedient addition for the GOP leadership. He’s a center-rightist from the corporate ranks. Tillis will vote conservative most of the time, a great thing, but he has soft spots on various issues. He has also shown he’ll vote as told by GOP Senate leadership, even against principle…. which means, of course, it will not have been a principle at all. In essence, he’s another Richard Burr (R). Who? Exactly. (Burr is NC’s other Senator). Far cry better than Hagan, though.

    If a person who doesn’t follow politics much hears a lie over and over and over, they will believe it eventually. The media puts a lot of effort into controlling elections these days.

    tarheelkate in reply to Henry Hawkins. | October 30, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Hagan has been a nonentity as a Senator, a rubber-stamp vote with little mind of her own and no sign of leadership. That really highlights the hypocrisy of the left-wing big spending. Tillis is basically conservative but nowhere near the right-wing fire-breather they’re pretending he is. And the racist stuff is beneath contempt. I was in an early voting line last week in which minority voters were about proportional to the population, and stats from the primary in May confirm that the new rules did not reduce black voting numbers.

“But if you knew then what you know now, do you think you would have said it that many times?”

She would have.
She does not give a sh.t about people keeping their doctors or their plans.
Not a single one of the legislators who voted for it does.

Obamacare is not about healthcare.