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Mark O’Mara defense counsel, Florida v. Zimmerman
This morning Mark O’Mara is to present the defense’s closing arguments, striving to raise at least as much reasonable doubt of guilt as the prosecution achieved yesterday in its own closing statement, an analysis (and video) of which can be found here:
State’s Closing Argument: Two Hours of Raising Doubt
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Tuesday, July 9 Commentary
This past weekend I posted up an analytical piece of Mark O’Mara’s request for a judgment of acquittal. O’Mara’s motion was well-reasoned and supported by Florida’s case law. It was, of course, doomed to peremptory denial by Judge Nelson. In that piece I’ve linked almost all of the case citations made by O’Mara to full-length copies of the decisions, so you can see the sources for yourselves, if you like (most of the decisions are gratifyingly brief). You can see that here:
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LOL if I could this to the FBI this would be done in 20 minutes…
…a real dig at the prosecutors cause the FBI DID investigate…found no wrong doing by Sanford PD…LOL
Thankfully he’s discrediting the “just tell her I killed a guy”
I caught that yesterday -BDLR is a sorry asshat
Ironically it just proves that GZ is truthful.
“I just shot someone.”
THE TROOF.
And a dummy.
BDLR is the dummy.
I haven’t been following the entire trial, but I thought I recalled that Jeantel testified hat Martin actually made it all the way back to the rear of the father’s fiance’s townhome during the ‘4 minute gap.’ Anyone know if that’s correct, or why it’s not being mentioned?
It seems that if he made it all the way to ‘homebase,’ and he was literally feet from safety,it’s even more compelling.
I don’t think Jeantel was very clear in anything she said so you don’t want to get bogged down in relying on it. Yeah, that is what she was trying to say but no use giving credibility to anything she said.
That said, yeah, I would have mentioned it.
He will, at some point.
Thanks. Of course, if you’re a liar AND stoopid, you could stumble and say one or two things that are the truth.
My memory is the she testified Martin indicated he was just outside his own house. I took that to mean at least “on that property”
Should not have given Martin a pass for his racism. Everyone always does that which was why we have so much of it.
He didn’t. His style is subtle. He said “I don’t need to say the words” knowing that it would trigger the jury to THINK the words without seeming like he was rubbing their faces in it…
actually this was a subtle way to destroy the state case of GZ’s racism – hatred, ill will, and malice
I love this guy. Best attorney I’ve seen in years.
Agree! He’s going to be the model for the hero in lots of legal thrillers going forward.
He just gave a clinic on how to give a closing argument.
Unlike BDLR, who gave a clinic on how NOT to give a closing.
Little yellow lights – didn’t want to be a cop wannbe
I would like to formally request my own personal “cop clipboard.”
M’OM is the “NO LIMIT LAWYA”
“IDIOCY” ROFLAMAO
I notice that the prostituters are just sitting there.
I would have expected BDLR to be jumping up every 5 minutes with ‘I object..’, just to distract and throw MoM’s timing off.
He’d probably like to jump up and object, but most lawyers refrain from doing much, if any, objecting during closing arguments because (1) it irritates the jurors, and (2) it draws jurors’ attention to whatever point the other lawyer just made, and (3) it can make you look like you have something to hide.
All of which points are why I was expecting BDLR to do it 🙂
who gets the benefit of the doubt with the problems with the evidence – GZ.
subtle dig at poor handling of evidence
absence of evidence does not evidence
slight disagreements are not lies
OMG — priceless moment — O’Mara opining on the “stucco guy” and the State’s using that as “evidence” to bolster the theory of Zimmerman as aggrieved, frustrated wannabe vigilante — “ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THIS IS THE ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE IS MAKING? Please tie it together with a line between the dots!”
Loved that.
And he keeps saying “Seriously? Seriously?”
Notice he shows respect to all the witnesses both pro and con defense but keeps throwing subtle jabs at the prosecution.
I think the defense has made a good case, but I think the jurors are going to see beyond the legalities – they see these two people, who are probably equally responsible for what happened. One is dead, and one is on trial. They’re not going to let him walk, they’re just not going to let the other party walk away, with a death involved.
I think you’re projecting what you would think and do onto the jury. As such, I hope to the Sweet Baby Jesus that you are never in a position to make that decision, because it’s completely wrong.
Matt in FL | said:
“I think you’re projecting what you would think and do onto the jury…”
And nobody else on this forum ever has?? Get serious, that’s laughable. It’s just i projected something YOU don’t want to hear. lol
You say equally responsible but point to nothing George did wrong that you know beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely you are not suggesting you have reasoned your way to your conclusion and are not just emoting?
Unless Guy figures out something more effective to do than scream “asshole!” at the jury repeatedly in rebuttal, then I wouldn’t be too sanguine about a conviction
They are not supposed to look beyond the legalities.
Ever heard of the term “rule of law”?
That’s what makes ours a real democracy.
as you know form the OJ case, juries can and do choose on other issues. You just DON’T know.
There is a huge difference between what jurors can do and what they are supposed to do. What they are supposed to do is look at all those little legalities and apply the law to them. Instead you appear to be advocating that they make their decisions with no legal basis but instead on emotions and feeling because you personally think GZ mad bad choices and should be punished. Well I personally would rather a jury judge me based on the law, instead of armchair quarterbacking my decisions with plenty of hindsight.
I think Zimmerman made solid choices under the circumstances. He had no way of knowing that everything he did and said was going to be dissected and examined to the nth degree under a microscope, that the young man he was keeping an eye on would prove to be aggressive enough to start a fist fight, or that he was about to get sucked into a national debate on the saintification powers of Skittles.
I can’t think of a single thing he did wrong, other than putting too much salt on his conversation with the non-emergency operator, and perhaps waiting too long to defend himself. I can’t imagine, if it had been me, that I’ve have come off as apparently innocent as he did. There would have been a lot more salt, and probably a few more bullet holes.
Why? That’s exactly what’s supposed to happen with self defense. He defended himself from an unprovoked attack that threatened his life. He should walk. This should have never gone to trial. It’s a travesty that his life is already ruined from this unwarranted, politically motivated and media fueled prosecution.
Look beyond the legalities – – Violate their oath?
Sadly, it is possible. Very few these days seem able to judge without emotion.
yes, my point…
Your point was that they were equally responsible. You couldn’t arrive at that conclusion based on the evidence.
“2 people who are probably equally responsible for what happened”
Bullshit. Martin ambused Zimmerman with a cheap shot punch, inflicted grievous bodily injury, threatened to kill Zimmerman. Zimmerman couldn’t even fight back.
I don’t know who is writing such lame talking points for you, but you should go back and tell them they are idiots and you aren’t this stupid.
So you’re assuming the jury will ignore the instructions given by both the Court and the defense, and just go rogue?
MMMkay.
So this wasn’t 12yo TM getting beat up?
Man where have I been?
I love that he is going through the witness list so methodically. he is very gently calling out their mis-statements very well.
his presentation so far has been great. especially since he started looking like he had a little more emotion.
but so far, the role reversal has been great.
“let me give you my perspective on Rachel jeantel…..”
what a slap to crump too….
So he just threw Crump under the bus
Crump threw himself under the bus at the very beginning when he idiotically chose to withhold the witness from the police…a reprehensible action by an officer of the court in a homicide case…completely unethical
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 4m
Jurors E6, B29 and alternate E13 taking notes as O’Mara goes over each witness. Got a PowerPoint & is showing photos of each. #Trayvon.
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Bam! Using Jentel, he reminds jurors that other witnesses were afraid of consequences of testifying but stepped up to do the rightthing.
Implied: “As should you”
🙂
running out of time….
(Dang, I never thought I’d be nervous about this)
The State is ABSURD
Some said it was T screaming for help.
Some said it was G screaming for help.
After yesterday, L and G of the jury,
some of you might think it was BDLR
screaming for help.
I think we just heard MOM utter the most concise summary of his entire argument against the state:
Really?!
Agreed.
Snap – my thought exactly.
“Seriously?” is a close second.
Lol, Really? Seriously? Just waiting for a C’mon man!
He’s on Rao now.
Can’t wait to hear what he’s going to say about Bao!
“Really? … Really?“
lol
He does that so well.
LOL, I think they are snorting BC Powder extra strength at the Prosecution table.
Reasonable fear of bodily harm = full acquittal
Guy is so screwed.
some heads are going to roll when all is said and done. i can’t believe what i’m seeing and hearing, and this is only the tip of the iceberg.
Dr Bao said in his testimony that folks should be fired
And Dr. Bao is one of them.
lets agree with the ME’s testimony and you can tell I did not
but NO injuries are required
Sorry if this has been said but was listening in the car while running errands…..one of the best lines so far of the trial and had me LMAO(although I understand it is a somber thing)
“Did not even want his own Cop Clipboard”
MOM has been brilliant so far and now that I can see it he is doing this with no notes at all I take it……..very impressive. Note to self if ever in trouble keep this guy’s number handy in phone.
I have no doubt that if the neighbors had helped George Zimmerman subdue Trayvon Martin, and if TM had not threatened him with death and reached for his gun, GZ would not have shot TM.
The shooting was a desperate act when there was actually NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
Who is this Dianna Tennis moron on twitter? First day she opened with fashion commentary, second day is was all about her, now she’s “punking” her audience with fake BREAKING bs.
Can someone just find her a stage to go strip on?
What a crude thing you are.
How is it “crude” to point out that she’s an innane attention whore? You should go look that word up.
Which word was it you wanted me to look up? “Innane” [sic]?
Oh, child.
She goes on CNN and is pro-prosecution, then goes on Fox and is pro-defense.
I don’t have TV, so I don’t know what she’s like on either Fox or CNN. I only know her tweets, and even if I didn’t like them I wouldn’t say something like “Can someone just find her a stage to go strip on?”
Because that’s just a crude thing to say.
It’s like the Lefties who didn’t like Sarah Palin and so suggested that she needed to get “hate-f**ked” or something.
“Can someone just find her a stage to go strip on?.. is just a crude thing to say.”
Yah, you don’t really know what that word means. I will agree that its “rude”.. maybe you got them confused because they sound alike.
“It’s like the Lefties who didn’t like Sarah Palin and so suggested that she needed to get hate-f**ked” or something”
Up your meds. Calling someone an attention whore who would be happer stripping on stage is nowhere close to suggesting a woman be hate-f**cked.
It’s entirely possible she had misinformation from the case (which was aplenty out there early on) and then saw the case and changed her mind.
Consequently, she was likely not invited back to any of the liberal tv shows.
2 hours is up.
Are they allowing him to go longer?
Have I been critical of O’Mara’s pace for no reason?
He gets 3 hours, Browndog. Prosecution gets 2, then Defense 3, then Prosecution 1 more, for a total of 3 hrs each.
THANKS. I thought he only had two hours.
Somebody doesn’t like my question?
don’t sweat nonsense. you’re not in GZ’s position, be happy.
I thought the judge gave each of them three hours, but the prosecution has only three hours to do first closing and the final closing remarks.
Both sides get three. Prostituters get to split theirs up. BDRL used 2.5, Guy has .5 after Mom.
I was clicking through channels and caught about 20 secs of Nancy Grace last night and I think Crumb was on and she was apoplectic about GZ carrying a pistol that was loaded. The most useless thing in the world is an unloaded firearm, my as well carry a hammer for self-defense. But I bet NG has a bodyguard/driver who’s packing.
More people die from hammers, bats , and blunt force objects than from assault weapons annually
Thats b/c most murders are people who know each other and those items are handy during heat of the moment assaults. Doesn’t make them a good weapon for self-defense.
Sadly, within the last 48 hours, there was a murder-suicide very close to where I am living. The woman was shot with the gun in the driveway of the house. He committed suicide, with the gun in the carpark of a local community church.
This kind of thing happens far too often for my taste. However, within the past 24 hours someone decided to kill a woman by dousing her with inflammable liquid and then set her alight.
On top of that, and it supports your statement, I do know of a case where the weapon used was a kettle, and then he tried to kill himself with a nail gun. He did time because it was manslaughter in the heat of passion. She used to goad him even though they were living together.
i saw sunny hostin on cnn say the states closing was masterful with a sexy smile and hunger in her eyes. i bet she’s had multiple orgasms watching this one.
“I was clicking through channels and caught about 20 secs of Nancy Grace last night”
I feel your pain.
Go get a brain-douche, you’ll feel better.
First let me say that I’m a concealed carry holder who normally carries both my Glock 26 (9 mm) with a Crimson Trace Laser and my Ruger LCP (.380) — and they are both loaded.
I would beg to differ that an unloaded gun is useless — for the mere fact that the vast majority of the time a handgun is used for self defense, it is used mainly as a behavior modification tool — people see the gun, and modify their behavior accordingly. That’s the beauty of having a concealed gun — most of the time if you have to use it, you don’t have to pull the trigger.
Having said that, I do agree that it makes no sense to carry an unloaded gun. If you are concerned that it might fire inadvertently, have a loaded magazine but don’t chamber the round.
I keep safety on and 5 round clip near the bedside in a case. I don’t chamber a round just to prevent an accident but I do wonder if it’s a disadvantage to do so.
I don’t like to keep the clip fully loaded (15 cap) because it is bad for the springs. In a quick defense situation you aren’t likely to use more than 5 rounds if you are a cool customer.
Keeping the gun without a round in the chamber for the bedside (or elsewhere in the house) is probably not a bad idea, especially if you ever have children in the house. It’s not how I do things, but there’s nothing demonstrably wrong with it. I feel very differently about carrying without a round in the chamber, for all the reasons set forth by Mr. Root in his testimony. A gun without a round chambered is an expensive rock, unless you have trained extensively to chamber a round upon drawing your weapon. My definition for extensively, in this case, is at least a thousand repetitions. It has to be automatic, something your hands do without any conscious thought.
As far as worrying about your magazine springs, if your magazines were manufactured in the last 15-20 years, there is no problem whatsoever with keeping your magazines fully loaded. Modern metallurgy is such that the springs will not take a “set” like they may have a couple-three decades ago. If you have any concerns, it would be about the very last round of a fully loaded magazine not feeding properly, so some choose to load “capacity minus one,” but really that’s not even necessary.
you aren’t likely to use more than 5 rounds if you are a cool customer
It’s of course your choice what and how you carry, but consider the Georgia home invasion in January of this year. Paul Slater breaks into a home occupied by a woman and her 9-yr old twins. The family retreats behind locked doors, Slater pursues, breaking through two internal doors in the process. Finally, cornered with her children, the mother fires five rounds into Slater before escaping from her home.
Slater then gets up, makes his way out of the house, and drives off in his car. So what might have happened if there were two or more home invaders?
This is not meant as a personal attack or even criticism, but I’d hate to see your remarks twisted into support for the “No one needs more than seven (or four, or two, or a single round) bullets” propaganda being pushed around. Besides, it doesn’t matter how tight someone’s groups are at the range, for most people (again, not implying anything about personally) things change when one is in a potentialy life-threatening situation and full of catecholamines (“adrenalin”).
Medic in Vietnam – awesome
That presentation was too good. I hope that Guy does not stoop so low as to go after him because of the friendship and donations, that would be very ugly.
the shadow might win
LOL
Oh snap!
MOM talking about the MMA trainer and paraphrasing that he opined, “I wouldn’t even let Zimmerman shadowbox for fear the shadow might win.”
‘I wouldn’t let him do anything more than shadowbox for the fear that the shadow might win’
classic
I almost snarfed.
HOPEFULLY – all law enforcement investigators will get SIGNED STATEMENTS – from every witness every time from now on.
If Serino had had Tracy Martin sign a statement saying it was not his son screaming and if all the family members had done so under oath, that would have made all the difference in this case.
Note GZ’s dad was under oath when he was allowed to hear the tape
Serino thought he was investigating a simple self-defense case, I don’t think he thought it would turn into the show/political trial of the century. But in hind sight I agree from now on.
It would cement down to a degree who was yelling – I don’t think it will have a great deal of impact in the end.
MOM has put enough doubt into the way the tape listened to and the statements made by the Martin family
I wonder if he is even going to use the cardboard cutouts of if the obvious HOODIE on the larger one is giving representative size
now for the skittles and tea…
“Really? … Really?“
I want someone proficient in auto-tune or audacity to sample all of BDLR’s shouted swear-words and mash them up with Mr. O’Mara’s “Really?”
“ASSHOLE!” … “Really?”
“F**KING PUNKS!” … “Really?”
I’m waiting for someone to edit together a YouTube clip that consists of every prosecution blurted profanity, back-to-back.
…which would save *me* lots of time, because if no one else does, I will.
It’d probably be fun and educational to edit together another video of all the prosecution’s most WTF? moments.
Great dynamics…!!!
Now he’s got his Irish up!
“Got his Irish up”? That is soo racist sirrrr!
AND he HAS the jury with him
George Zimmerman had NO OTHER OPTION than use of his firearm.
TM reached for George’s gun and said, “You gone die tonight MFKer.”
NO ONE came to help him as he screamed for help.
He had no other options.
One thing I haven’t seen. How many other people were in the watch program with Zimmerman? Or was he a one man show?
There was testimony that about 25-50 ppl would go to the meetings, but I don’t think they actually went on patrols. I believe they would just keep an eye out for suspicious activity or people during the day. GZ was actually offered a citizens watch police car w/ probably a radio and spotlight but he declined.
And flashy yellow lights, and he could have had a blue uniform
And perhaps a Cop ClipBoard…………..
I would think that examples of others calling in suspicious activity would be good, or testimony by the other members of Zimmerman being calm or going nuts at meetings would have been useful.
Yeah Cutouts!
Nice kid? Right. Good thug maybe!
There it was, we got three in a row…
“Really? C’mon. Really?!“
Look at Mantai’s mug. Looks like his dog died. Ha
TM’s parents leave. I think they know MOM’s arguments and props here are very, very effective.
I think they had this little walk out planned ahead of time to try to distract the jury.
That’s theatrical. It was probably rehearsed.
But it is true, they’re leaving because MOM is successfully destroying the state’s case, hence the need for histrionics.
Just wanted to say that on Greta last night Diana Tennis said Don West is one of the calmest people she knows. She used the word Zen to describe him. I think that goes a long way towards showing how frustrated he is with the judge.
BDLR hanging his head – mumbling bobbing
Well yeah I was lying!
I cannot help feeling that, every time i look at the prosecution team, i am observing the personification of evil
You are, but they are only the tip of the injustice spear. This one goes all the way to the White House, as usual.
That was great. He is such a mastermind about the law he doesn’t know Maranda? He didn’t know who was watching, who was video taping, yet he’s a great mastermind!
MOM is extraordinarily well-prepared and organized. Just what’s needed and a stark contrast to the steamy pile the prosecution left on the courtroom floor yesterday.
The steamy Skittles-strewn pile the prosecution left on the courtroom floor 😉
Will MOM be allowed to go over? I know BDLR went over his 2 hrs, does that mean Guy won’t get full hour? Do they time to last second?
Depends entirely on the judge.
Each side gets 3 hours. Assuming BDLR has used about 2 hours and 35 minutes. O’Mara gets 3 hours and Guy gets the state’s remaining 25 minutes to rebut the points made by the defense.
What in the HELL video program and equipment are they using n this courtroom? I am stunned with the technical malfunctions that we have seen again and again in this trial!
The state purchased it. That means they took bids, selected the lowest cost system. Probably cost them over $10,000,000.
Gud enuff fer gubmint werk. Probably union installed as well. A double whammy.
even zimmermans dad is yawning… get it over with OMara.
Hey pal, if your butt were in that chair looking at 30 years and you’re paying this guy 500$ an hr, you would want every second the court allows.
Piss off.
I’m not your pal
Yawning can be a sign of stress…I’d believe he is more stressed out than bored.
How many jurors are saying to themselves “Let’s vote and let GZ go, dammit. I want to get home for the weekend. I have already lost 4 weeks of my life for this BS case and I don’t want to lose another day”
All of them
Let’s hope it’s six.
I find it amusing that BDLR nodded in agreement with MOM on more than one occasion when he was making points about the states inconsistencies.
Not sure if he was subconsciously doing that because he knows his case was lacking any substance or fact at all?
Following somebody is NOT illegal.
BAM!!!!
The State should waive its rebuttal.
They have nothing to say after this that can possibly happen.
More yelling and cursing will just antagonize the jury.
Find something Zimmerman did that was unlawful. Can’t find it ’cause it’s not there.
BAM!!!!
the jurors have less at stake than zimmerman’s dad, and his dad is yawning. Gawd this is long winded. get it over with. He’s losing the jury…
And you know that…how…???
Since I doubt s/he’s in the courtroom to actually observe the jurors for him or herself, s/he’s either getting that from one of the MSM types who is, or s/he’s just makin’ stuff up.
O’Mara’s speech explanation of Self Defense is just devastating.
He’s driving it home now.
Is anyone kind of excited about seeing Guy go next ? LOL in a sick way
Now he’s getten’ personal…
I would really not want to be Mr. Guy today. Why can’t Mr. Mantei do this instead – it would be so much easier (funny) to watch.
Does it help you when somebody yells at you, screams at you, and curses at you?
BAM!!!!!
MOM sticking the knife into BDLR there over all the yelling and cursing.
My closing argument would have been:
“The No Limit Nice Young Man was casing the area for another burglary, saw the neighborhood watch guy calling it into 5-0, and so tried to put a beat-down on a creepy ass cracka after talking it over with his potential baby mama, who encouraged him to man up and take down the cracka.
The cracka had a gat.
OOPS.”
Sad part is the entire black community knows TM was a no good thug and deserved to get wasted but will never admit it because of the racial politics.
casing for another burglary?
And you know that HOW??
Excellent!!! You have crystalized the deficiencies in the State’s case. Zimmerman might of done this, could have done that … With the State you can actually say “how do you know that, beyond a reasonable doubt”
hint: burglary tool was found close by.
bonus hint: burglary tool found in TM’s school bag with jewellery from a house close to school.
every time i see the face of bad faith bernie d he looks a little more like a failed chicken farmer i’ve read/seen about
yep! except himmler had better hair
Love the mimicking F’n PUNKS!
MOM: I look like Joel Olsteen!!!! Hilarious!!He does
someone else commented BDLR looks like the BTK killer LOL
he does!!!!
Oh, my:
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/R/Dennis-Rader-241487-1-402.jpg
That’s sort of awkward.
Something about his delivery and body movement reminds me of a sober and proper Jerry Seinfeld.
nice gesticulation about the State and who resembles the preacher
whispers assholes – REALLY is that the way they said it
So, bottom line is this was a mugging of the cracka by a thug/punk and a good shoot in self-defense.
Predictions on what that concrete block will go for on E-bay?
What an awesome visual aid for this case.
I agree completely. I think this was one of the best visuals MOM could’ve brought in front of the jury.
Completely drives home the point that he wasn’t just “armed” with skittles, he had his fist and a slab of concrete to try to beat GZ’s head against.
To me it tells the jury, “look at this piece of concrete, would you want your head slammed on it? If someone was slamming your head on this rock would you be in fear of your life??”
predictions on how long george will escape the brothers if he walks? He’ll be like Ed Snowden, lloking for asylum in russia.
are you trying to imply that a further assault/murder of a man found not guilty in a court of law would be social justice?
Yah he is. He’s trying to brace himself for the disappointment of what he suspects will be a “not guilty” verdict by fantasizing about other ways he can “win”
I would give it the rest of GZ’s natural life. Criminals are cowards and not interested in fulfilling your sick fantasies.
Are you saying the brothers want mob rule over the rule of law? You are not speaking very positively about the brothers.
Trayon’s guilty of second degree murder!
And first degree being a moron
Yeah, you would like to think that, wouldn’t you?
But no, it’s Zimmerman on trial for murder. In case you forgot.
It was quite artfully crafted to that conclusion by MOM.
And no I would rather TM have walked home to father’s house and none of this have ever happened.
You’re free to go crawl back under your rock now
right and the young thug is better off, right? udumfuk
wrong! it’s all the rest of us who are better off without thog boy
Down rated you in error. Boy are my emotions running hard. MOM made me cry. I remember ‘Nam (not in direct combat – Navy frigate DLGN25) and it made me cry because I was off Da Nang and heard the arty.
Thank you for your service sir
GZ is the VICTOM of malice, ill will, and spit
What would TM be charged with
Had Zimmerman not been armed and IF he survived to identify his attacker, the sweet innocent St. Skittles would have been charged with aggravated assault no?
A troubling subtext of the entire trial and the situation is young thugs should have the run of the streets at night and good law abiding citizens should fearfully tremble behind locked doors….
….a remarkable thing about all the witness reactions was that all the community members were obviously terrified to actually intervene i.e. “get involved” to stop the fight, they didn’t even want to get up close enough to have a good view of what was happening…the populace is fearful….afraid….this is what the thug/race baiters rely on…lawful people cowering in fear….
reminds me of the opening scene in Boondock Saints by the priest:
And I am reminded, on this holy day, of the sad story of Kitty Genovese. As you all may remember, a long time ago, almost thirty years ago, this poor soul cried out for help time and time again, but no person answered her calls. Though many saw, no one so much as called the police. They all just watched as Kitty was being stabbed to death in broad daylight. They watched as her assailant walked away. Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.
Since you’re quoting a film, some people might wonder if the event described was fictionalized. It’s not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
I would pee myself if MOM took that foam dummy(as oppoded to other dummies present) and banged its head into that slab of concrete and then turn to BDLR & say ” gee sorry I damaged the head of your dummy!”
Your doll. 😉
Ehem!!…. doll.
It’s a doll.
Telling them the quickest way to go home now and letting them know it is OK to go that route because that is what is called for. You know they heard that!
one question do you have reasonable doubt about the use of self defense = game over
not guilty of all charges including littering
MOM: “Don’t let the State convince you with screeching.”
Only thing that could make this more perfect is if West throws up the “high five” when Omara walks back to sit
potty break
At what point does BDLR commit seppuku? Now? At verdict announcement? On MSNBC?
These prosecutors have no honor. They will engage in mutual finger-pointing. They will not self-immolate out of shame with honor.
They would not make very good Klingons.
They must be Cardassian scum.
don’t give scum a bad name
They will probably do more than just “point” with those fingers.
He never does. He’s been the way he is all his life, and likes it.
He just moves on to the next case.
Think about that.
That is the most masterful closing argument I have ever seen including all the movies I have ever seen in my life.
The only way he could have topped it would have been if he showed us some bewbies.
I guess there weren’t any in evidence though, so it would have to be purely demonstrative.
And he looks pretty flat-chested anyway.
i think you watched too much perry mason
thank god it’s over… did they have to use smelling salts on the jurors?
Troll
That’s not smelling salts you smell, that’s Febreeze. You’re in your Mom’s basement, not the courtroom. And if you’d shower more frequently, she wouldn’t have to keep spraying it.
o_0
All the prosecutors have to be praying for is not even a conviction, but at least a day or two of jury deliberations so they can say it was at least a tough call.
If the jury comes back with a verdict before the weekend the prosecutors are in serious trouble.
Before the weekend? We have, at most, another hour of the state’s rebuttal. Then lunch break. Then two hours of jury instructions. That puts us at a innocent verdict before the 5 o’clock news today.
Hmm. . . .don’t you think the judge will take into consideration the best time to announce the verdict. . . and handle the resulting riots?
Is it easier for the authorities to handle rioters on the weekend, or on a Monday?
Well, there you have it.
The defense of George Zimmerman is complete.
and aside from that, the questions remain, and george is the only one who knows what exactly what happened that night. And He didn’t take the stand. MISTAKE. The jury wants to hear from him, and he looked like a deer in the headlights when the judge woke him from his slumber.
Does stupid just grow on you, or did you need to cultivate it?
it takes stupid to recognize it
Wow. MORE stupid. It does seem your natural state.
“it takes stupid to recognize it”
Aw, I haven’t heard that since the 4th grade. Brings back memories.
Dang…can’t hit like more than once…
Zimmerman will either be looking at a jail cell, or be looking for asylum in another country for safety’s sake.
Either way, he’ll rue the day he made those poor decisions that night…
He could move in near me, and nobody would ever mess with him.
There are places all over America where he can live.
He can move to Texas. I guarantee you there’s plenty of people who will shoot you dead if you come after him.
Never argue with an idiot – people might not know the difference
The jury didn’t see the “deer in the headlights” incident. And for the record, that only happened once, when he wasn’t expecting to be stood up and asked questions out of the blue. On all other occasions, he’s simply answered her questions.
“Questions remain” = acquittal.
That’s the point.
Archaeopteryx (ancient bird fossil), I’ll bet you’re not from the U.S., right?
The whole “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard is a kinda American deal, I guess it would be hard to comprehend for Eurotrash.
born and raised, in fact ancestors fought in revolutionary war. fact.
Too bad that didn’t pass their legacy on to the younger generation.
On which side?
We can’t help it if you don’t realize that he testified. He testified on the NEN call. He testified in Singleton’s interview. He testified in Serino’s interrogation. And he testified in the walkthrough. The jury has heard from George over and over and over again.
What gets to me is that so many people assume GZ is lying just to protect himself, but Dee Dee’s testimony is the absolute truth.
DeeDee was lying.
The jury wants to skip lunch before the rebuttal arg.
Sounds like they want to get to an acquittal verdict BEFORE the weekend.
Bad for the prosecution.
And as Rags would say:
and you know that HOW??
It’s a guess…but if the jurors thought this would be a long haul deal why not grab some lunch first?
They are rushing it along cause they are READY TO GO HOME.
I wonder if the Judge will intentionally delay to avoid riots over a weekend.
Judge Nelson’s droids are reading the escape pod as we speak….she’s going to go back to Degobas with the other little green trolls…LOL
Usually, for rioters weekend lasts from Monday to Sunday, if you can understand what I mean.
Especially if the collect checks from the DOJ or some other government entity.
That was a brutal, brutal closing argument for the State. MOM not only eviscerated their case but he did it in a calm way and ended by literally mocking them for their histrionics.
MOM is a tricky bastard, he used the evidence. What a crafty crafty attorney.
Well, that was definitely worth getting up at 5:30 for!!!!!
A spectacular close. I just can’t imagine anything but a full acquittal after that!!!
Best of luck George!!!!!
Yes, it was. I look forward to Andrew’s analysis later today.
Guy has 9 minutes 30 seconds to do the right thing:
Prepare and tender a letter of resignation.
Well. That was brutally efficient.