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Mark O’Mara defense counsel, Florida v. Zimmerman
This morning Mark O’Mara is to present the defense’s closing arguments, striving to raise at least as much reasonable doubt of guilt as the prosecution achieved yesterday in its own closing statement, an analysis (and video) of which can be found here:
State’s Closing Argument: Two Hours of Raising Doubt
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Tuesday, July 9 Commentary
This past weekend I posted up an analytical piece of Mark O’Mara’s request for a judgment of acquittal. O’Mara’s motion was well-reasoned and supported by Florida’s case law. It was, of course, doomed to peremptory denial by Judge Nelson. In that piece I’ve linked almost all of the case citations made by O’Mara to full-length copies of the decisions, so you can see the sources for yourselves, if you like (most of the decisions are gratifyingly brief). You can see that here:
Why Zimmerman’s Motion for Acquittal Should Have Been Granted
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Wrong “No Commentary” livestream linked above. Somebody tweet Andrew.
Surly Waitress: “And how would you like that burger cooked, Sirrrrrr?”
Bald Dude: “I don’t know… YOU decide.”
I like the way that O’Mara is starting out. He’s attempting to preclude the possibility of a compromise verdict by carefully discussing the solemn duty that jurors have.
Classy and wise.
Why not point out that TM was committing a forcible felony on GZ at the time GZ shot?
Good tone for O’Mara compared to the prosecution. Not sure the John Adams stuff will mean much to jury. Guys are the ones reading all these books about the founders, not moms. The kids who stole the cookies analogy better.
That all said, evidence nonexistent. I believe they will acquit on that basis alone. And I think they’re pissed at the prosecution.
Good point. Compare MOM’s measured and calm summation with the screeching hyperbole of BDLR.
Another good point: MOM saying the prosecutors sound like defense attorneys with all the “what if’s”. It’s the State with the Burden of Proof, they can’t live in speculation fantasy world.
“And I think they’re pissed at the prosecution.”
Why do you think that? I would hope they are. They should be offended at the way the State has behaved and what the State is asking of them.
I agree with you on the evidence but am overlooking the idea that mostly men read those books and not Moms…………..sorry but you need to find some new Mom types to hang with if that is your thought process…:)
^^ what Karla said 😉
Sometimes it all boils down to the company we keep…………….:)
yes what Karla said, because we mums are educated too.
Gee, I wonder what all those ignorant women are doing at Tea Party events? Just following their well-informed men, I guess, at least in your world.
God man. It’s 2013. Wake up!
Do some demographic research on who buys history books and who is driving that segment of industry. When you’re dealing with juries, you have to deal with the law of averages. Read some jury research some time.
That said, his tone–measured, methodical, calm, filled with personal anecdotes (dad’s ring, family from Ireland)–WILL work with women.
It’s always cute to hear a man declare so confidently that his judgement is the be-all and end-all of how women think and what kind of tone will “work” with them.
Bless your heart.
“Women make 64 percent of all book purchases, even among detective stories and thrillers, where they buy more than 60 percent of that genre.”
Yes, but apparently we only buy them so that our men-folk can read them and then explain them to us while we make their sammiches 😉
what makes you think that women are not history buffs. I am a woman and I have always been a history buff. These days I do not purchase the books because of access to the Internet.
The bigotry towards women by the commenters on this site is really disgusting and SIGNIFICANTLY detracts from the value that the site brings.
This is an amazing explanation of how the jury should form their decisions – without explaining the law
Gosh, I do like that Mr. O’Mara.
I’m way past like….I want to have his children…
LOL M’OM said “good prosecutors” DON’T use coulda woulda beens…
= these prosecutors suck!
LOL
“= these prosecutors suck!”
Yeah, but he said it without sayin’ it. That’s why I like him.
Objection!!!
He’s using facts in the courtroom
I like O’Mara’s semantic analysis on the State’s phrasing of its arguments: “You decide;” “What if…?,” etc… very smart and on point.
I hope he’ll get around to the glaring fact that, for all of its bluster, theatrics and dramatization employed during its presentation, the State hasn’t offered any substantive evidence — only conjecture, innuendo and character assassination — to actually meet its burden of proof that Zimmerman committed a crime.
Having trouble with the LI livestream.
Another source here at Right Scoop:
http://therightscoop.com/watch-live-george-zimmerman-trial/
O’Mara has pissed all over BDLR’s suit pants, in the nicest possible way.
And the jury seems to be eating it up.
Interesting strategy…M’OM is a law school professor, educating the jury on reasonable doubt and legal history…
“George Zimmerman is NOT GUILTY just if you have a reasonable doubt he acted in self defense.”
Exactly.
The nub of the whole enchilada.
No question. O’Mara has struck the exact right tone. I just love his opening. Brilliant.
Is O’mara really going to give the State persecutors a lesson on how to prove guilt?
Priceless
…..but I’ll be M’OM now goes on to review the evidence and say “BUT the evidence not only shows reasonable doubt, it shows GZ WAS ACTING in self-defense!!!”
(Triumphal horns play)
LOL what did I just say.
I’m going to request that you not allow me to confuse you
The look on BDLR’s face – confusion
M’Om is trying to remind jury they need to decide what the reasonable doubt jury instruction means based on the judge’s instruction not M’OM’s argument…
GZ wanted to help his community = he did not have malice/evil intent to profile TM
The prostitution team is straining.
There will be a lot of brown streaks in BDLR’s undies when this is all over…
Implicit in the failed cop narrative is that the prosecution wants jury to believe it’s inherently bad for someone to aspire to a career as an LEO
And BDLR said being a NW was a good thing yesterday
“The burglars in the community were all young black males”!!!
Brilliant. He turned the whole racial profiling argument completely on its head.
He snookered the prosecution by getting them to admit all the police call reports documents KNOWING he would refer to this stuff in closing….
Ha ha brilliant
“How will I convince you of his absolute innocence”
We don’t need no stinkin’ reasonable doubt!
I’m loving the charts. Someone needs to Meme these charts.
Take notes Guy – you’re gonna need them
MOM is looking very confident “Innocence” OH. Yeah.
LOL same house TM was looking at was burglarized a couple of weeks before–“maybe coincidentally” LOL
He just told the jury TM was a burglar
Yes a good defense atty knows the jury doesn’t want to split reasonable doubt hairs…the jury wants the defendant to prove factual innocence so they can go home and sleep at night if they acquit…jury doesn’t want to let a murderer get away just because the murderer has a clever attorney…
That’s the problem with a lot of jurors. “Well, if he’s sitting in the defendant chair, there’s probably a reason, right?”
GZ does not scream, the state screams
Guy and BDLR screamed….GZ never screamed LOL
he called them assholes again LOL
Hee hee.
In reality GZ said these assholes always get away because LEOs say exactly the same thing because a lot of times the assholes DO get away…
Coves “guilty” graphic with new graphic – timeline. Excellent.
“Let me know if he does anything else” negates the “we don’t need you to do that”
TM’s parents show up late for MOM’s closing arguments. Way to keep it classy.
I think this is going to be a classic defense summation.
Text book, historic.
And all bald dude’s and Guy’s claim to fame is “I was the other half of that classic defense”
… Wow. This is the sort of dismantling that I thought you only saw in mock lawyer competitions between last year’s champions and this year’s rookies.
MOM doesn’t say “I am mad as hell and won’t take it anymore” got the point across and reiterated the soft tone of voice not ASSHOLES
That was good. He just declined to use the curse words again, because “they’ve been said enough in this courtroom.”
He basically locked John Guy out of using those words again, without looking like a jerk by doing it.
Haha, and as I type that, Diana Tennis tweets: “John Guy furiously scratching out all the curse words he planned on screaming at the jury.”
For the lawyers out there – I read that there is another possible paragraph in ‘standard’ self defense instructions, I think I read it was about ‘who is the initial agressor’, that was apparently wanted by the state, and left out by the judge.
What was/is that clause / paragraph ? Text of it, pls ?
Tks.
@pjm, the statute you’re looking for is Fl. Stat. 776.041. You can find it here: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.041.html
1 is in (GZ not engaged in unlawful activity)
2a is in (reasonable belief by GZ)
2b – not in (other party withdraws but you continue using force on them)
Is that what the state wanted – 2b ? IN keeping with their fantgasy /TM got shot when he was leaning back to disengage and give up’ ?
This is a brilliant closing. Without ever directly impugning the State’s “case” he’s destroying, brick by brick, their arguments with evidence. Incredibly powerful.
Instead of pointing out his client is not guilty, he uses “absolutely innocent”.
Even though the prosecution hasn’t proven diddly squat, MOM is blowing away all their maybes, could have beens, and suppositions. The only thing left for the jury will be, “So why are we here? This guy was obviously innocent.”
O’Mara’s moving too slow…too casual getting to his points.
tick…tick….tick…
@Browndog, I don’t mean to be rude, but you’re wrong. He’s got that whole courtroom hanging on his every word.
Not rude to disagree. I suspect many would. That’s what I’m seeing and feeling. So many powerful points to make, so little time to make them.
Wow, mature adults who can amiably disagree found on the Internet. Pinch me!
😉
“So many powerful points to make, so little time to make them.”
As long as he doesn’t end up flipping through 1990’s PowerPoint slides like he’s showing the jury vacation photos, I think he’ll be fine.
My comment over at statelymcdanielmanor:
M’OM’s “time bomb” was getting all those documents about the various NEN and 911 calls about “young black male burglary suspects” in that community into evidence.
The jury is probably going to spend some time going over every scrap of the documentary evidence since the “he said/she said” type of evidence can be frustratingly ambiguous when the jury wants to be sure they get it “RIGHT”.
The whole subtext of the case even though the judge didn’t allow it wasn’t just “profiling” it was that GZ was “racially profiling.”
Well, yeah, if all the burglaries are by young black males in that community recently…but but but but but….so the whole “profiling” emphasis by BDLR completely backfires…in an unstated, subtle, but very powerful way….
I think it is more probable that they will decide the don’t even need to look at them.
I agree with Ragspierre, that a lot of it won’t get looked at.
But from the Defense’s point of view, and certainly from GZ’s, if he’s acquitted, it’s time well wasted.
“Time well wasted”. . . very well said!!!
MoM gets the whole 3 hours – BDLR had to save some for Guy’s rebuttal.
I LOVE the contrast of MoM vs BDLR – no screaming curse words followed by ‘pardon me for screaming curse words’, no yelling, no intimidating the women of the jury, no ‘daring them to disagree with the big strong lawyer’, etc.
I bet every woman on that jury resented BDLR’s tactics – yelling screaming, then having a stare-down with them in silence as if to DARE them to said a word against him – when in fact they are not allowed to speak to begin with.
In most companies, that behavior towards co-workers gets you fired, or at least disciplined. Why does he treat them in a way they would never tolerate at work ?
Because he’s a f’ing asshole ? Pardon my language ….
Where is the evidence
There is no assumptions, no presumptions, connecting the dots maybe, but you agreed not to connect the dots and don’t let the state ask you to do so
So this gives the jury time enough to meet, vote not guilty, and be released for the weekend, right?
MOM – I am going to say something sneaky, I am sorry.
Yes it is sneaky, but any question or doubt has to be resolved by the state. They did not.
He is saying that the state is sneaky and the jury will believe that.
But again, he’s sayin’ it without sayin’ it. He’s good.
Some commentators on Twitter are complaining that O’Mara is talking down to the jury like they’re stupid. He’s right. All lawyers love a stupid jury.
I also see a “blackout your avi to support Trayvon” movement on Twitter. Makes it easy to identify the idiots!
Rionda pleaded emotion and assumption. O’Mara is pleading facts.
He’s not talking down to them at all. He’s methodically “writing a legal brief” for an acquittal with oral argument + demonstrative exhibits…
…and giving the prosecutors a law-school lesson in trial court advocacy at the same time….
Better he should be flailing his arms about, screeching, shouting, swearing, and pelting the jury with Skittles, BDLR-style?
Because that showed so much respect for their intelligence. LOL.
Honestly, if I were the prosecution, I’d just want this to end at this point.
M’OM is doing something the prosecution couldn’t and didn’t…he’s actually talking about the TRIAL EVIDENCE….gee whiz LOL
I hope the jury recognizes the irony. The state in no way proved guilt, but the defense is now proving innocence, calmly and without the histrionics and innuendo that has been the mark of the prosecutors.
OH I think there’s plenty of innuendo by M’OM but he’s subtle….it’s hard not to be subtle in comparison to the prosecutors since he’s not screaming “Asshole!” repeatedly at the jurors…
LOL
I was getting slightly concerned with MOM’s original timeline of where ill will/spite/hatred came in and he jumped to the video.
Very likely the ill will/spite/hatred occurs after being decked in the nose
MOM – Opps, I can’t tell you that, it was not in evidence
another subtle slam on the state
BDLR telling Guy: It’s over dude
The prosecutors are no longer working on their rebuttal closing arguments…
….they’re UPDATING THEIR RESUMES!!!!
(Ba doom bing–crash)
Pretty sure that’s what Mantei was doing at the back table all day yesterday
Yeah right guys, these twerps work for the government , they won’t get fired unless it turns out they killed Trayvon Martin
Wow, has he really been talking for an hour 20 minutes already? That went quick.
Haha, he just hit them with 40 sec of silence
Hrm, or is he going for the full length of the encounter?
It was 4 1/2 minutes–from the time TM ran to the beginning of the confrontation at the T (counting back 30 seconds or so from the start of the Lauer 911 call).
Using “time” as evidence. Powerful stuff.
silence is deafening and shows how much time it takes
It is also a psychological ploy as folks really hate doing nothing, especially if they are waiting for something.
Dang, MOM’s “break” is super powerful. It seems like forever when you are just sitting there.
The silent 23 minutes was unbelievable powerful. WHERE WAS TRAYVON if he was running away?
2 to 3 minutes
Hey Andrew…what’s the update on Kindle version of LOSD? Can you post when it will be ready on your blog?
I guess he had plenty of time to get home.
TM a fotball player
Any athletic teenager should be able to run 3/4 of a mile in that time. An out of shape teen should even be able to do a half mile in that time. Walking briskly he should have covered at least 1/3 of a mile. Keep in mind 1/3 mile is almost 6 full football fields.
At a normal walking speed, 3 mi/hr, one can cover more than 0.2 mi. TM was running, and the distance from the T intersection to where he was staying is far less than 0.2 mi.
What are the jurors going to think when they learn about all the evidence that has been held from them?
These prosecutors are dummies.
Corey set them up as the fall guys.
If they get a conviction it will be widely seen as a miscarriage of justice, motivated by racial politics….every single competent attorney knows how worthless the prosecution case is on the evidence….
…if there’s an acquittal then the narrative will be that the prosecution team screwed the pooch….
patsies…
BOOM!
That was brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! That’s how long Trayvon Martin had to run. Do you think the jury will connect those dots?
Things I would like to see: After the not guilty verdict, Bernie de la Rionda calls a press conference to denounce the political forces that placed him in the position of trying to prosecute an unwinnable case.
I can see the sarcasm, but there’s no way to justify the state’s actions.
It was BDLR’s ethical duty to advice the powers that be about the illegality of this prosecution. He was going to take heat, of course, but he could have gone to the media and denounce what was going on.
Now we have all seen what a lowlife prostitute the MSM has been all along, but many of those same media outlets would have jumped with joy at the prospect of an explosive increase in ratings. Don’t forget. It’s all about ratings.
Presstitutes. I saw someone on Twitter call them presstitutes.
Every time the show the Prosecution Table or Angela Corey they just look more and more pissed. Guy almost has his head buried on the table. This is almost like kicking someone when they are down.
The defense team will charged with assault.
I’m holding out for the triple-facepalm.
The glaring woman behind the triple facepalm just frosts the cake. Hilarious.
THAT was effective. Lots of time to get home and avoid the whole conflict.
If you’re defense which one of these distances sound shorter: as far as it takes to throw a football or about 300 yards (I think that’s about how far it was.) 300 yards sounds like a lot farther to me, so hammer the fact that you could throw a football from the back porch of Trayvon’s Dad’s house.
Oops wrong reply.
I still don’t understand why the defense did not introduce evidence of the distance between the T and Martin’s house.
Isn’t it already in evidence?
Not that I saw.
I have not seen anyone testify (or even closely indicate) what the actual distance is there. Even if the defense had someone measure it, they’d still have to get someone on the witness stand to testify to it to get it in evidence. Hell, for all we know, maybe they did, but decided it wasn’t worth it.
Aren’t there all kinds of videos in evidence depicting the physical space/separation?
I don’t know if it’s really necessary to give a “number” in feet or yards to the jury..as long as they can SEE it…
John Good or o of the other neighbors testified he could throw a football that far – thus the football reference
MOM was quoting Chad’s testimony about being able to throw a football that far.
By the way, I just measured it on Google Maps, and the distance between the T intersection and Brandy’s house is somewhere right around 375-385 feet.
The evidence came out in typical MOM fashion. He asked Chad whether he could throw a football that distance.
IMO it is because Treyvon could have cover that distance in under 30 seconds, much less than the 4 minutes of time that passed before the fight started. He could have made it home and called the cops on George, if he wanted to…
If you’re defense which one of these distances sound shorter: as far as it takes to throw a football or about 300 yards (I think that’s about how far it was.) 300 yards sounds like a lot farther to me, so hammer the fact that you could throw a football from the back porch of Trayvon’s Dad’s house.
Google says 375 feet, or 125 yards. Football field is 140 yards endzone-to-endzone (100 yards +20 for each endzone)
So I would show video of an NFL back returning a kick from his own endzone to the other, and time it.
Time to make it “home” ? 20 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE2yWZgzlQs
it was not in yards. Trust me, I used to live roughly 500 yards from a railway station. It was uphill to get to the station and I often had to run to catch the train… missed it many times because a school bag is often heavy.
You know these prosecutors are probably so used to using the relatively unlimited resources of the state in a case like this, against an underfinanced and undermanned defense, often indigent defendant with a public defender who has a 100 other cases, they just really are not accustomed to anything resembling a level playing field
The timing of that evidence right before the break will sink in to the jurors. Folks remember the most at the start and end of a session
Crap! (Sarc.)
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 1m
The state does not look happy and neither do the Martins. We are in break. #Zimmermanon9
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This trial has made the entire State of Florida look bad, as well as the country to some extent after Obama’s remarks.
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT IS TRUE THAT THE TWIN LAKES RETREAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAD RECENTLY CHANGED THE STREET NAMES?
If so, do you have a link to a source?
PC Trail and Lynching Lane
Yes, they had recently changed street names.
No, I don’t have the souce link handy.
If they changed them, Google Maps doesn’t have it yet.
The neighborhood streets loop and curve and the names change, but Jenna Lauer testified she didn’t know where the street names change. Sgt. Raimondo testified he didn’t know the name of the neighborhood or the streets the next one over because it had recently changed. These aren’t neighborhoods and streets laid out on a grid. That’s why GZ’s NEN call was overly focused on trying to get a street name and a house number. He isn’t stupid unless one is also willing to implicate Jenna Lauer and Sgt. Raimondo in that stupidity.
I think what he is asking is “were the streets recently re-named”
I just want to thank Amy for her excellent list of legal and media sources (non-tendentious). I subscribed to her list and so have others. Twitter lists are a great feature and tames the twitter chaos. This list is so much better than just following a hashtag. (Hashtags are easier to follow on tweetchat.com but it’s down for updates right now.)
https://twitter.com/AmyA1A/zimmerman-trial
🙂
This whole thing is so stupid because the original Sanford investigation already had decided there wasn’t enough to charge Zimmerman on…
…so Corey politically swoops in and big foots it with absolutely no justification other than racial politics…
…apparently the FBI investigated the Sanford PD and determined there was no racial bias by the Sanford PD in their investigation or decision-making, at all….so no civil rights issue in the local yokels deciding not to prosecute….
…this case is a career-ender for these prosecutors…even if they get a conviction the mess will be appealed…the florida appeals court may have some scathing commentary not just for Judge Nelson but for the prosecutors…reminding them the prosecutors duty is not to get a conviction but to seek justice…which they clearly have not been seeking…
Yes, Angela should have evaluated the matter and drawn a completely different conclusion on what to do, or what not to do. How could she NOT see this coming?
She didn’t care. She needed to be seen as a tough prosecutor looking out for the minority community in order to get re-elected. This case served that purpose–she was re-elected unopposed–and she could care less what happened after. By the time she’s back up for re-election, this case will be history but who knows what poor schmoo will be the next victim of her political aspirations.
Just like Mike Nifong….to a “T”.
…this case is a career-ender for these prosecutors…
Please don’t forget, this is a political prosecution.
I am sure the powers that be have that covered. They probably offered this team some kind of retribution in exchange for the professional embarrassment they put themselves trough.
It is up to us the taxpayers to be loud enough to prevent such corruption.
I don’t think “retribution” is the word you were looking for, but I’ll bet that’s how it actually works out. 😛
The BIG reason for all this is:
1. Obama wanted to win FL and this situation could be milked for that purpose.
2. Sybrina Fulton’s brother is a ‘Community Relations Organizer’ in Miami. (Translation: Communist party member, organizer of black voter block.)
3. The 2006 Martin Anderson case resulted in acquittals.
“Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV
The state does not look happy and neither do the Martins. We are in break. #Zimmermanon9”
The Martins are not happy because their payday is about to come to an end.
their payday?
I don’t care how little you think of them, they still lost their son. Try to reign in your hatred, OK?
You first – reign in your stupid white guilt. Their son was a thug who deserved to die. His “parents” are responsible for raising a thug.
The day they really started caring about him? When they realized they could sue the HOA and get rich off his corpse.
If I could give your post 100 thumbs-up, I would.
Are the parents sad about losing their son? Probably. But his corpse wasn’t even cold before they started whoring themselves for money. They don’t care about GZ’s life, and they’re happy to have him lynched if it means more money for them.
They were lousy parents and they know it, but they want someone else to suffer for the rest of his life for their miserable failures. A kid that just got booted from school for the third or fourth time, uses drugs, starts fights and brags about them and wants more of it, uses racist language, possessing stolen property, punched out a bus driver, calls himself NO_LIMIT_NIGGA and whatever else he’s done that we’re unaware of, and what does his father do instead of staying home supervising this violent miscreant? Goes out for a big night on the town until 4am or so and doesn’t even know his kid is missing until sometime the next day. The grieving mother couldn’t manage him for the few years she had custody of him so she shipped him to the father. Neither one of them are worth a $hit.
Trademark is one less felon on the streets who can no longer victimize innocent people. We will not have to pay to house, feed and provide medical care in a penitentiary, which is where he was headed, and we will not have to suffer the criminal justice expenses of prosecuting him multiple times throughout the next 10-20 years.
So the parents help stir up a hornet’s nest to line their own pockets via getting GZ arrested so they could file an immediate lawsuit, trademarking their thug son’s name and going on a trashcan tour begging for money at lawyer-arranged media venues.
The mother, father and Trademark are all despicable people and the sooner they all have the rug pulled out from underneath them the better off we will all be.
As for St. Skittles: Good riddance to bad rubbish.
The conduct of the family, their lawyers, the race baiters, and the state has been disgraceful. If all this was about the death of a young man they would have behaved more honorably.
The Martins are just a couple of POS parents that did little to properly raise their monster when he was alive.
Their hypocrisy have no limits. They have toured the world portraying themselves as victims, having the nerve to tell the rest of us what to do. Shame!!!!
They’re grifters.
GZ ought to sue THEM for the criminal conduct of their son’s assault on him.
I carry no guilt -you are truly warped people… full of hatred. Were you raised that way?
We are warped by this gross miscarriage of justice all for political reasons on the part of elected officials and greed on the part of the Scheme Team. Our anger is justified.
Fair enough. I do feel some sympathy for Martin’s parents. But they’re not at the top of the sympathy list.
1. George Zimmerman and his family for what they have gone through, and the problems they will continue to face — even if GZ is acquitted.
2. Overall confidence in our legal system, that this shameful trial even came to pass.
3. ex-Chief Lee, Chris Serino and others whose livelihoods and careers have been damaged because of unwillingness to help lynch Zimmerman.
4. Florida taxpayers for having their money wasted on this show trial, and the apparent poor quality of at least some of their state officials.
5. The witnesses many of whom are undoubtedly in fear for their personal safety.
6. Same goes for the jury.
7. The young black women, especially obese and poorly educated ones, who will suffer even more from stereotyping due to Rachel Jeantel’s managing to live down to so many negative stereotypes.
I could go on quite a ways before getting to Mr Martin senior and Ms Fulton, not that I don’t feel bad for their loss. It’s just that their past actions and inactions helped contribute to this whole mess. As for Trayvon Martin, it is a shame that he was killed. It is also a shame that he had to grow up with the examples he had, perhaps he would have turned out differently in an environment with more positive role models. But my sympathy for him is the same sympathy I feel for an arsonist who burns to death because he was trapped by the flames he himself set. In the case of his electing to assault Zimmerman, the phrase “acute failure of the victim selection process” springs to mind.
Not that you will sum up the courage to read it but…
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/05/thats-my-boy-now-wheres-my-money-wheres-my-benjamins/
they were lousy parents. One of them was a gang member. Both of them had tatoos and allowed their son to get tatoos. One of them kicked her son out of the house. She goes by the name of Miss Candy. The other uses the name “Fruit” and he was negotiating to purchase a gun.
Trayvon Martin died because he made a bad decision. The parents should be ashamed of themselves because of the way that they have handled the situation, especially when one learns about the history of burglaries, fighting and other thug activities including the drug dealing and using.
TrayMom can still put out trashcans for TrayCash
Bzzt. They already got $1,000,000 from the HOA’s insurance company. Now everyone in that complex will see their HOA rates go up by hundreds of dollars due to insurance hikes.
And the Crump/Sharpton/Martin cabal will be milking this bitch for years, count on it.
Watch for the civil suit coming to a TV near you soon. Where they push for ‘preponderance of the evidence’.
Where did you read/hear that the HOA paid off a million bucks? News to me. I would have waited until the trial was over.
I’ve heard “seven figure settlement” enough times that I’m inclined to believe it’s true.
Keep in mind that the HOA’s insurance company made the decision to pay the Martins, not the HOA. An insurance company often has a different set of pressure points and objectives than their client.
Insurance companies often settle even when the plaintiff has no case, just to avoid the high cost of a lengthy legal fight, remove the risk of some nutball jury awarding vast sums, and prevent bad publicity. The Martin debacle ran a high risk of all three of those. Better to just throw cash at the family and have it over with.
Why does the press keep saying the Martin’s (who are not the Martin’s but rather Martin and Fulton) don’t look happy. Do we now have criminal trials to make people “happy”? What is wrong with this picture?
Prepping their “blacks riot over injustice!” narrative. Gotta sell those advertising spaces.
I was thinking what would the trial have looked like if MOM had been leading the Prosecution. Then I realized that he probably has more than enough integrity to resist the political pressures and do what a god prosecutor should have done: Decline to prosecute!
If MOM was the prosecutor he would have been smart enough to offer a sweet and irresistible plea bargain and this thing never goes to trial
Well, I am more than impressed so far!
What an excellent closing!
Loved the 4 minutes of silence to make everyone realize how much time Trayvon had to get his ass home if he was actually scared. That was one of my concerns as I think that is a key element and had not been discussed in the defenses case. I am OK with it now 🙂
The brilliant Wolf Blitzer (lowest score in Jeopardy history) opens the segment on CNN during the break with the notion that the defense now has the challenge of proving that their client is innocent. Ironically, that is what they are doing, but it is not their obligation.
I’m guessing that MOM will essentially “prove GZ’s innocence”, then come back to the first exhibit and show the jury just how far away they are from guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Great lawyer.
I’m starting to think Nancy Grace is the stupidest human being on the planet.
Welcome to the club. It’s kinda crowded here, you may have trouble finding a seat.
I’m sure she can still get a job at CNN. Her expertise is still one degree above their talking heads.
That stupid hair clip she always use to wear caused brain damage.
….just starting?
GF told me if we had to watch the “screechy” woman last night she needed to take some aspirin first.
So many false assumptions by her and her gaggle.
“If George hadn’t gotten out of his car when he was ordered to stand down…”
“George was armed with two industrial flashlights…”
“Trayvon would still be alive if George hadn’t done such and such…”
“An unarmed, hapless, innocent child…”
What universe does this lady live in?!
Naaaah, that would have to be Pelosi (Nancy)
That’s an ironclad job requirement to be a talking head on TV. I don’t know why it’s so, but all the evidence supports this hypothesis.
I have not been able to get off the couch and do a thing all morning. That’s how riveting MOM’s closing is. Usually I can put on livestream, do work on the pc, blog away, clean the house, take care of the parrots, make a phone call or two and generally multi-task my butt off.
Not today.
Feels like I’m witnessing legal history.
MOM is stunningly brilliant.
You and me both, right down to the parrots. My Umbrella Cockatoo is not happy with playing second fiddle to Mark Omara today.
Venus the Amazon is furious I put her in the outdoor cage next to the Quaker and the plumhead and I’m squirting them with water to make them shut up when MOM is speaking!
LOL Luckily my ‘too doesn’t scream all that much on a normal basis. He’s definitely grumbling and screeching today though. The birds just gotta deal today, it’s a once in a lifetime event that must be watched.
My African Grey was soberly attentive.
Exactly the same here! MOM has done more to raise the profile of the defense attorney as a noble profession that I have ever seen. Conversely, the prosecution has done more to fertilize the seeds of distrust for government that has been planted by the NSA and IRS.
I might be in love!
He is just magnificent.
MOM is the new Atticus.
movie in the making
I oversleep this morning because I didn’t get much sleep last night. Sure didn’t want to miss about 25 minutes of opening, but what I’ve seen so far, it’s great. The four-minute pause was powerful. It seems like forever when you are sitting at the computer.
I hope MOM’s team has reviewed every scrap of the flotsam the prosecution dumped into evidence at the last minute. That is the weapon I suspect. Something unethical and cold cocking.
haahaa…Janet Napolitano is resigning!!!
“The System Worked!”?
Just to nitpick, the only negative I saw in the closing was that they spent WAY too much money on that fancy, sensor suited, animation. Don’t think they got the bang for their buck there.
Can’t wait to see the rest of this!
Reign. To rule
Rein. A piece of a bridle to control a horse. Rein in: to slow or stop a horse’s progress. I’m sorry. U had to. OCD
Rain: the tears coming out of BDLR eye’s right now
Rainn: A guy on the office
did you have to look that up?
I understand.
The Fox analysts are awful, just awful. They repeated some of the misstatements made by the prosecution showing that they have not watched the trial.
E6, who I say may be the opinion leader, is reportedly taking notes avidly.
i’m sure john guy will polish this turd with the help of demo dummy
There’s a joke here about Guy and Doll…
BDLR be a lady tonight
BDLR be a lady tonight
Cause MOM is doing you in the dummy
4 minute mile, in decent shape – not quite that is still world class speed, but we are not talking a mile
Nah world class would be sub 4’s, hitting low 4s is competitive for state champion in high school. I’d say 5 to 5:30 would be reasonable for an average athletic high schooler. I ran a 10:50 2 mile in college at 200lbs.
FACTUAL INNOCENCE OF MY CLIENT.
Give the jury NO CHOICE but to acquit waiting for crazy ass cracker…waiting…c’mon MOM… waiting…say say it
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 55s
B28 just glanced at the Martins as the defense asked what Martin was doing for those 4 minutes. #Zimmermanon9
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Hammer the time down prosecutions throat. 4 Minutes to go a short distance. What was TM doing in 4 Minutes.
The guy who decided to lie in wait…
[the guy who fit the profile of the recent burglary suspects in the neighborhood]
4 minutes of planning
TM planned it
MOM coming hard after the break.
LOL M’OM is puttin’ the shiv into the Martin parents, crump, Corey, BDLR, Guy LOL
stick that shiv in
stick it in YEAH BABY
the state wants you to believe that TM did nothing for FOUR MINUTES. Note this use of raised voice – louder but not screaching.
the state DARES you to believe
OK, this is where he brings it…!!!
I absolutely love how he’s dismissing the BS that doesn’t matter.
“I don’t care that he [TM] called my client a stupid name. He’s 17, he’s allowed to say stupid things.”
“I don’t know who fixed his [GZ] nose, it doesn’t matter.”
Because that’s all irrelevant.