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Zimmerman Trial Day 11: Live Video, Analysis of Defense’s Case & Witnesses

Zimmerman Trial Day 11: Live Video, Analysis of Defense’s Case & Witnesses

Today we will again be covering the Zimmerman Trial live, all day, with streaming video. Continuing commentary will be posted in the Twitter feed of selected contributors below the first video feed, and breaking news will be added at the bottom of this post.

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Tuesday, July 9 Commentary

During the lunch recess, or immediately thereafter, we will TRY topost a mid-day update. We’ll then follow up with the usual detailed end-of-day wrap up, including video and embedded Tweets, at the usual time in the evening.

Our end-of-day wrap-up and analysis of yesterday focused on the collapse of the State’s “scream” theory of the case, which imploded with the disclosure that Tracey Martin had initially denied that the screaming on the Lauer 911 recording was that of his son, Trayvon Martin. It also noted that the Court had decided to allow Trayvon Martin’s toxicology report to be allowed into evdience. Also, of course, it contains video of all the other testimony and hearings caught on camera throughout the day. That can be found here:

Implosion: Police Testify Trayvon’s Father Originally Denied Son Was Screaming

This past weekend I posted up an analytical piece of Mark O’Mara’s request for a judgment of acquittal. O’Mara’s motion was well-reasoned and supported by Florida’s case law. It was, of course, doomed to peremptory denial by Judge Nelson. In that piece I’ve linked almost all of the case citations made by O’Mara to full-length copies of the decisions, so you can see the sources for yourselves, if you like (most of the decisions are gratifyingly brief). You can see that here:

Why Zimmerman’s Motion for Acquittal Should Have Been Granted

Last Thursday, July 4, I had posted up a review of the trial to date, with some prognostication of how things may role out in the coming days. To take a look at that, click here:

Zimmerman Trial Review– How We Got Here, And Where We’re Going

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Law of Self Defense Blog: Zimmerman Trial

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Comments


BDLR just doesn’t have any evidence, there is more evidence that proves GZ’s account and Bernie is not a good prosecutor.

txantimedia | July 9, 2013 at 2:14 pm

BDLR, wandering through the wilderness aimlessly, not sure which direction to go.

I really like how BDLR keeps saying, “Are you saying…” and the witness responds with, “No, what I said was…”

He misstates the witness’s testimony. Every. Single. Time.

    Harperman in reply to Matt in FL. | July 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    And he does it on purpose in a very dishonest manner. Does the idiot think the jury doesn’t see that?

BDLR thought he was on a roll. Then the whole “how many cute little bunnies did you shoot?” thing failed to get any traction….

    Hodor in reply to Hodor. | July 9, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Meanwhile, over in the Twitterverse…

    The HoodiesUp crowd seem to think that this expert is getting pwned and is somehow finally proving the state’s case (state has rested), that GZ should have “stayed” in his truck as “ordered” by cops and not “hunted” “stalked” and killed that innocent unarmed child. But also that he (the witness) is too long-winded (BDLR still on cross).

    Un. Frakking. Real…

    delicountessa in reply to Hodor. | July 9, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Cute little bunnies? Since the laptop dies if I watch videos, I have to rely on you guys. Very interesting and funny drinking stories, btw —but cute little bunnies?

BDLR needs to stop . He’s not helping his case, this man is much smarter than he is and he’s looking like an ass. Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

    Exiliado in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    But remember, they are both bald-headed.

    He thinks being bald-headed makes him smart. He’s not gonna stop.

It seems this whole “rolling around on the grass” and “rolling fight” theory is ridiculous. GZ had grass on his back and TM had grass/dirt on his knees…not all over themselves.

I’ll take “Grasping for Straws” for $500, Alex.

A lot of blood vessels. He just told you why.

so is the state’s theory is now GZ shot TM standing up after TM was beating him with a tree branch?LOL

MOM is almost laughing in the back ground.

KrazyCrackaEsq | July 9, 2013 at 2:20 pm

Haha O’Mara is just sitting there smiling. He is loving this witness and Bernie’s cross. Can’t wait to see the re-direct.

“In other words, George Zimmerman could have hit Trayvon Martin and not left any bruising on his knuckles?” asked de la Rionda.

Great job BLDR! You just equally proved why TM may not have marks on his hands either!

Someone needs to ask BLDR how the Defense is paying him.

This is ridiculous. Why doesn’t 1 of BDLR’s co-counsel tell him he isn’t helping their case. Are they just as dumb?

My husband rebroke his nose once and he did put it back into place himself, so it’s possible.

    styro1 in reply to MegK. | July 9, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    I had to do a friends at a softball game once b/c he was going on vacation after game. It was easy and not that painful to friend he said.

      kentuckyliz in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 6:44 pm

      I spoke to someone today who told me he suffered years of not being able to breathe properly and had to have a surgery on his nose. The injuries were from sports. Can breathe properly now.

    inquisitivemind in reply to MegK. | July 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    I have reset mine twice, once sports related injury on the sideline, and once from inadvertently closed sliding glass door

      Jazzizhep in reply to inquisitivemind. | July 9, 2013 at 2:36 pm

      hmmm, lots of things to say about the hitting yourself with a sliding door, but i’ll leave it be

        inquisitivemind in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm

        Long story short – from grill to kitchen and headed back onto patio, face first into glass.
        Yes inebriated
        Next morning pondering whether or not I had been in a fight the previous night the rising sun illuminated a face print on the sliding door, stepping out on the patio and finding an empty bottle on the gas grill and charred remains of a drunken steak dinner forgotten on the grates, confirmed the black rings under my eyes and offset nose

    ThomasD in reply to MegK. | July 9, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I put my nose back in place once. It was nto a painless process, but getting it back where it belonged felt a whole lot better.

BDLR is casting about to find some scenario that comports with the evidence other than Zimmerman’s… he has not had a consistent story, he is flexible with every witness. Even though the areas each witness can’t rule out do not overlap to give him any one likely scenario.

The earlier poster was spot on. He is reduced to trying to find reasonable doubt in Zimmerman’s story because he does not have a story of his own.

Ah Ha he was right handed!

    CHLTexan in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    BDLR: “Is GZ right or left handed?”

    I really didn’t understand why he even asked that question, especially as his last question. However it’s obvious GZ is writing with his left hand. Not that it makes any difference, my youngest son is left handed but bats and shoots right handed.

BDLR: You are not an expert on little green men from space, and you are not here to testify about little green men from space, right?

Witness: Yes, sir.

BDLR: Ok, I have 100 questions for you about little green men from space.

Sounds like that witness who said GZ stood over TM and shot 3 times in back.

    Observer in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    Yes, and how many times did Bernie ask the doc if he had read that lunatic woman’s statement — because that really would have added to the doc’s understanding of what happened, right Bernie?

Midwest Rhino | July 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm

By the time this is over, MOM will have proven well beyond a reasonable doubt, that Trayvon assaulted George, causing physical and mental damage. The state has not proven even an implausible scenario, let alone murder beyond doubt.

The resultant charges and emotional trauma George has suffered merit a civil suit to claim the money the CRUMmy liars have received via racist blackmail. Next will be the civil suit against the Black Panthers, the phony audio “exspurt”, NBC, etc.

That should mark the final chapter of “The Race Card Era”.

Hey … I can dream. 🙂

BDLR: Objection leading the witness. I’m only the one allowed to do that.

txantimedia | July 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Imagine you’re a forensic pathologist and Vincent Di Maio is your boss. Would this be as close to heaven as you could get in the forensic pathologist’s world?

    NavyMustang in reply to txantimedia. | July 9, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    If you’re good and conscientious. Guys like Bao would most definitely NOT enjoy working for the good Doctor Di Maio.

CNN has decided this trial isn’t about George Zimmerman and self defense. It is about “Black Manhood.”

http://www.thenation.com/blog/175065/trayvon-martin-and-black-manhood-trial

My next door neighbor’s best friend’s cousin’s barber found this in the dumpster outside the SA’s office the other day. I can attest to its authenticity as the State’s draft closing argument:

Innocently walking home after receiving the Save the Manatees / Mother Theresa Astronaut Scholarship, young Trayvon Martin was merely trying to fulfill his dying brother’s last wish: delivering a pack of Skittles and an iced tea. During his return, he was racially profiled by a white-supremacist Jew named George Zimmerman, who sported a Nazi swastika tattoo on his forehead. Zimmerman, in his night-vision outfitted NRA Hummer (license plate: IH8N1GZ), stalked the cheerful academic, using his assault bazooka to intimidate this young child who was woefully unarmed and wearing a red Hollister t-shirt. After initially escaping the perverted ogle of the registered sex molester, the little boy felt he was in the clear and relayed that information to his childhood sweetheart and study hall partner, DeeDee, to whom he was speaking with on the phone.

But, with the loving safety of his Father’s arms in sight, the much stronger and heavier predator – ignoring the command of Trayvon’s surrogate father, President Obama, to ‘Stand down!’ – ensued the sweet child, pounding him mercilessly whilst cursing him loudly and employing the most dehumanizing of racial epithets, in blatant violation of the 4th grader’s civil rights. Zimmerman then pulled out his unregistered Uzi sub-machinegun and unloaded seventeen rounds of armor-piercing hollow-point bullets through his tiny heart, killing the baby-faced toddler in cold blood. The murdering drug-addled dog-beater then called his father, the Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice, who interceded and prevented any police response or involvement whatsoever. Trayvon’s lean, lifeless body was cruelly abandoned in a little bit drippin’ water…

When does the 10 run mercy rule get inacted in Florida law, because if this were softball, this game would have been called already!

oops sorry Styro1, meant thumbs up, so true

eaglesdontflock | July 9, 2013 at 2:34 pm

Zimmerman right handed, writes left?

Henry Hawkins | July 9, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Where the f**k was BDLR when I was up on charges in the Ypsilanti Sheep Farm incident?!?

Perhaps I’ve said too much.

Wait. BDLR can object that West is being “argumentative” to his own, obviously friendly witness?

What is this I don’t even.

the first day i have missed the morning session an i am patiently waiting for Mr. Branca’s mid-morning wrap..i feel so ill-informed

    rokiloki in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Go to youtube and find the channel “thecount” (no space). They have all the testimony videos. You can catch up there

Jury has to be tired of pointless objections by now.

This guy has done his job, move it along jury is getting bored. I am.

Now he’s discrediting Dr. Bao: “If you have someone undressing the body for you, you should be standing there watching to make sure they do it right.”

Contrast that to Dr. Bao’s: “That’s not my job, that’s their job. I assume it was done right, but I don’t know because I wasn’t there and have no memory of it.”

KrazyCrackaEsq | July 9, 2013 at 2:50 pm

Hahaha, Bernie just went to look at watch and stopped himself. He’s hating this witness. Probably feels like he has been up there for eternity.

I’ve never watched a lynching in progress before.

eaglesdontflock | July 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm

Ok Matt. Breathe easy. Ambidextrous maybe. I have a daughter who writes left handed, bats right, paints right, eats right, throws left, shoots right. They term her left handed

The blood was not cleaned, that’s speculation.

It could have been vaporized by…..little green men from space.

Physics Geek | July 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm

Is it me, or does the prosecuting attorney appear to be, well, both ignorant and stupid? Wait, check that: it’s obviously not me.

This farce of a show trial should -mercifully-end soon. However, I have little faith in this or any criminal jury. See also O.J. Simpson and Menendez brothers trials. However, should this jury render a guilty verdict, it may well get overturned on appeal. I hope.

And BDLR keeps on going after reasonable doubt.

How can the government justify paying a salary?

He is trying to discredit the doctor by using the absence of evidence.

If the jurors deliberate longer than 1 hour they are not reviewing the evidence they are discussing the political implications i.e. riots/looting.

This is the guy who had the Martins into his office to hear NEN and 911 calls. He is a city manager, not a politician. He should not have done this it was not his job he appointed the chief of police.

Kathi Belich is saying “Di Maio says the witnesses are all over the place and you can’t rely on them to determine how the shooting happened. ”

Sounds like reasonable doubt to me. I think if the jurors deliberate for more than 10 minutes on this case, I’d be scratching my head in amazement.

    kentuckyliz in reply to Paul. | July 9, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    The jury might delay, so that the verdict is announced when the hurricane is close enough to stop the riots.

    I think we should start a funny hashtag #whenwhitesriot and it would be very SWPL. Such as, they steal giant jars of mayonnaise from Sam’s Club. Let’s bring some racial reconciliation by making fun of Caucasians.

Angela Corey looks like she’s seething. Good! A lot of folks pushed for this debacle of a trial, but the person most responsible is Corey. One way or another she has to be removed from her job for going forward with this prosecution.

Why wouldn’t the Martins want the police in the room. Very curious.

Interesting factoid:

Sanford is 40% black and 55% white.

    Mansizedtarget in reply to wyntre. | July 9, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    This factooid is not lost on jury. Seminole Co. is an upper middle class, mostly white suburb of Orlando. It has two rough patches, parts of old Sanford and parts of Casselberry. Otherwise, it’s a law and order, Republican, prosperous place. It’s not redneck; it includes lots of Northern Transplants and professionals who work in Orlando. Sanford has gentrified a bit in recent years, partly due to the construction of a large mall and the inclusion of some new, hip restaurants in the downtown. But it’s still known as an area with lots of sketchy and high crime places. Zimmerman’s neighborhood is built near the new mall, and was clearly a well built and new neighborhood, but clearly had some crime issues, almost all due to young black men.

      good assessment, I grew up in Lake Mary both sets of my parents still live there, and all are CCW permits and are expecting riots

        kentuckyliz in reply to MAPTX. | July 9, 2013 at 7:09 pm

        Just to reinforce the lesson about self-defense rights, in case people didn’t get it.

        (Check your state laws but this is true in KY) you can defend real property, movable property, other people’s property, and other people under self-defense justification. You don’t have to get beat up first. There might be a live-enactment seminar to reinforce this right during any upcoming riots that may happen.

        Fabi in reply to MAPTX. | July 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm

        You need to send a copy of Andrew’s book to them asap!

      wyntre in reply to Mansizedtarget. | July 9, 2013 at 3:36 pm

      Interesting.

    Fabi in reply to wyntre. | July 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    And 5% white Hispanic, I guess?

Thats why LEO’s were not present. The Scheme Team

Gremlin1974 | July 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm

I don’t know if the City Manager is considered a Hostile witness, but he should have been.

Why do all the prosecutors go to the bench. 3 brains against 1, 4 if you include the judge. And MOM still kicks their asses

Does the Martin family et. al have jobs or are they recipients of Obama’s kindness?

What planet is Diana Tennis from? She just tweeted: “I blame the politicians and the lawyers for ruining any chance of conviction.”

You twit. I blame the politicians and lawyers for bringing a case that never should have seen the light of day.

    Alan Cain in reply to Matt in FL. | July 9, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Yep it wasn’t going to trial in the first place. I didn’t follow it closely back then, so not sure if the grand jury no billed it, or if they were even called at all.

    BubbaLeroy in reply to Matt in FL. | July 9, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    She lives in a world where a wanna be gangbanger should have the right to give a beat down to some creepy ass cracker that is irritating him without fear of being shot.

    Exiliado in reply to Matt in FL. | July 9, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    I hope one day we, the taxpayers, get to know how much our “leaders” spent in this dog and pony show.

No consideration given to the desires of or possible future needs of law enforcement when the tapes were played for the family. Was this a typically liberal emotional response made without considering the consequences and ramifications or was done on purpose?

eaglesdontflock | July 9, 2013 at 3:14 pm

Isn’t it a defense lawyer’s job to ruin any chance if conviction with the truth?

    Matt in FL in reply to eaglesdontflock. | July 9, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Somehow I don’t think she was referring to the defense team. I mean the defense team that GZ is paying. Not the one he’s getting pro bono courtesy of the state.

Uncle Samuel | July 9, 2013 at 3:14 pm

At this point, BDLR is not going for facts or truth, but to supply a few emotional sound bites for the Media to play with their Crump fictional narrative talking points.

txantimedia | July 9, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Angela Corey is an equal opportunity vindictive bitch.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/marissa-alexander-gets-20_n_1530035.html

    gregm in reply to txantimedia. | July 9, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    The woman had a restraining order. One of her mistakes was to go outside to get the weapon, at that point she was safe and should have called the authorities.

    If that is the case of the black woman who went to her car and got a gun, then it was neither SYG or self-defense. She discharged the gun with her children in the cross-fire.

    She had claimed self-defense, tried to invoke Florida’s “stand your ground” law

    As the others point out, it’s neither “self defense” nor “stand your ground” when you leave a potentially dangerous situation where you claim you are “in fear for your life”, go get a gun, deliberately re-enter the potentially dangerous situation where you claim you are “in fear for your life”, and then open fire.

    And by the way, yes she had a restraining order against the baby-daddy, but she also pleaded no contest to domestic violence against him. So they were neither of them angels.

    And finally, this had not much to do with Corey – who offered her a 3-year plea deal which Alexander rejected. Once the shooter rejected the 3-year plea deal and opted to try her luck with a dodgy “Stand Your Ground” defense before a judge, that’s when the minimum sentencing laws kicked in. That’s hardly Corey’s fault.

Whatever happened to Diana Tennis?

I sued to like her as a court room legal analyst. She’s gone full moonbat:

Diana Tennis @TennisLaw

I blame the politicians and the lawyers for ruining any chance of conviction.<

I kinda blame the evidence.

    stella dallas in reply to Browndog. | July 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    What is her story? She is so irritating.

    DrKyleJones in reply to Browndog. | July 10, 2013 at 8:37 am

    In her defense, she’s right that the prosecution ruined any chance at conviction, she just didn’t point out that that chance was <1% based on the lack of evidence. 😀

    Just because the case was nearly impossible to start with doesn't mean that the prosecution didn't stink up the joint.

      Matt in FL in reply to DrKyleJones. | July 10, 2013 at 8:40 am

      It was just one really stupid tweet among a whole host of them yesterday. She really has gone deep into crazy cat lady territory over the last few days.

MOM might have missed a good question for bonaparte: “isn’t doing everything within the power of the mayor and city manager’s office to ensure the police find the truth about what happened also being sensitive to the parents?”

    txantimedia in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 9, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Don’t you think the jury will conclude that without O’Mara’s help? I do.

      Jazzizhep in reply to txantimedia. | July 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm

      perhaps, but all MOM has argued was that it was improper, and implied that it was politically motivated, not that they weren’t really being all that sensitive because they could have kept the police involved (to find the truth) AND let them listen b4 the public release

KrazyCrackaEsq | July 9, 2013 at 3:30 pm

I hope Angela Corey, Ben Crump and whoever else involved in this political show trial end up being held accountable for this travesty. This is ridiculous.

If it wasn’t for the Scheme Team lawyers and politicians this would have been just another self defense case in a country where there were 393 in 2011 alone according to the FBI crime stats 299 of them with a handgun. There had be charges filed for the Martins to file suit for damages, that is why TrayMom said “we don’t care if he’s convicted we just want him charged”. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-14

    The table you link to is “Justifiable Homicide — by Weapon, Law Enforcement.

    The footnote clarifies, “The killing of a felon by a law enforcement officer in the line of duty”.

    Nothing to do with civilian self-defense.

I think the defense expert did a nice job explaining that it was possible for Travon to move his arms underneath his bodies after the shooting.

That pulls another rug out from the state’s case. I am having a hard time, however, understanding why the state ever viewed this as important.

I don’t see what motive Zimmerman would have had to make up the story that he outstretched Travon’s arm, if he did not in fact do it. It is a detail that seems irrelevant to any of the issues of self-defense. Can anyone suggest how the state would argue this point, other than to suggest that Zimmerman is lying about it for some inexplicable reason?

I want to see Crump and RJ on the stand.

Wow!

MOM says defense will probably “be done” tomorrow.

txantimedia | July 9, 2013 at 3:39 pm

And he mentioned a proffer of two experts. Wonder who they are?

Eloise Dillaguard? Black lady testifying from home coz she’s sick?

This looks interesting.

She didn’t know street name either.

Is the real point of this witness to show that George Zimmerman was viewed as a friendly neighbor by a Afro-American neighbor?

The jury has to notice the kindness of this witness, her sincerity, as well as the warm-hearted glow that GZ has while listening to her testimony.

If there were any forks at all left, they need to be stuck into the sham-prosecution case right now – this Crump-roast is done!

Henry Hawkins | July 9, 2013 at 3:56 pm

She’s testifying from home because she’s “sick” but she hasn’t thrown up once, not even a little gagging. This, I think, invalidates her testimony, and the defense’s apparent inability to call credible witnesses wipes out all it’s previous witness, leaving me to conclude that Zimmerman is, like, totally guilty and stuff.*

(*I’m making an audition tape for my application as a MSNBC expert commenter).

    styro1 in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    You need to say TM was black and GZ is a white hispanic and I think you got the gig.

    Goetz von Berlichingen in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    You forgot to mention that president Obama has been brilliant; a lightbringer to this trial and a blessing to the nation.

    I know that is their boilerplate for all news reports.

That certainly doesn’t hurt GZ’s case, does it?

Speaking objections are reserved for the prosecution! Doesn’t O’Mara know that!!

Oh, now PMSNBC is saying the current witness is only there because she’s blaaaaaaaaack! This case is not about race, didn’t they hear they civil rights attorney say that?!?!

I would not blame this lady if she was afraid to come into court in person

txantimedia | July 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm

Is it just my imagination, or does Judge Nelson seem to have settled into her judicial role and is now ruling more evenhandedly?

    Matt in FL in reply to txantimedia. | July 9, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    It seemed that way about a half day before the state rested, I think.

    stella dallas in reply to txantimedia. | July 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    I suspect Judge Nelson has some concerns about what was in the Crump deposition. It’s possible his testimony is the key to blowing the entire prosecution up in Angela Corey’s face. The judge doesn’t want it look like she was involved in the scheme.

    pathfindersgt in reply to txantimedia. | July 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    I would think that the Judge may well understand what’s at stake now. i am not speaking of this case only; she knows that at this point, even if convicted, GZ would appeal – and win – and judicial activism will not do well in that regard.

    also, to be fair, her rulings have not been totally railroading GZ anyhow. looking at the big picture, you might see the pattern that nothing was allowed in, and here I emphasize this, before being let in by admission of evidence. for instance, the toxicology. it was out beforehand, and in a way, that’s good. it prevented a lot of premature sniping by either side. but with the introduction of the witnesses and the autopsy report, the door is opened at the proper time.

    understand that I am not agreeing with all of her rulings, but after all, the state has to prove its case beyond a shadow of a doubt using all legal means necessary. this is a court of law – court of public opinion does nothing to reflect the case properly. GZ is entitled to a competent defense – which he clearly has – and forbidding showboating by the defense prevents a rehash of the casey Anthony debacle. MOM also gets to basically use prior rulings as a basis for awesome motions, which he has also done….BRILLIANTLY. i’m not her strongest advocate though, that needs to be clear.

    corey, however, is another story. all of her thugs too. oops, I mean her hired goons. oops, I meant the persecu—dammit, prosecution attorneys. sorry for the Freudian slips there, folks.

It seems GZ is a well liked individual by people who know him. It also seems he doesn’t have much street smarts or is much of a fighter. When TM circled his truck alarm bells should have gone off in his head and to proceed with caution but he just walked into an ambush by TM.

Henry Hawkins | July 9, 2013 at 4:03 pm

Why would the FBI be involved?

    txantimedia in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Are you serious? You don’t know about that?

    Uncle Samuel in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    The FBI came in to investigate to make sure the shooting was not a racist hate crime. They didn’t find any evidence of racism.

    Karla1953 in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Oh everyone had a little piece of this whole thing once the mad people from Out of State showed up in Central Fl…………who was not involved. They investigated the racial aspect of it….found nothing IIRC.

    Wolverine in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    The FBI was asked by the politicians to check into it and see if any civil rights statutes were broken. Specifically they were asked to determine if a there was racial motive behind the shooting. The FBI concluded there was not a racial motive on Zimmerman’s part and that no federal laws were broken.

    The FBI got invovled to prove that AAs have special rights not afforded to the rest of America, based solely on the color of their skin and not the content of their character.

    MLK must be spinning at 33-1/3rpm.

      kentuckyliz in reply to Fabi. | July 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm

      Have you seen the photoshop that the TM’s are tweeting around? It’s the hoodie selfie that TM did, with MLK’s face photoshopped into it. That is defaming MLK. MLK would be the first one to stand in judgment of the content of TM’s character. MLK would have whooped that boy’s butt years ago, at the first sign of troublemaking.

I hope Obama has a place for Nifong-Corey in his administration. If were a Floridian, I’d make sure she was run out of the state on a rail. If she had presented this (lack of) evidence to a grand jury, we wouldn’t have to be subjected to this travesty.

    If were a Floridian, I’d make sure she was run out of the state on a rail.

    Only around 6% of Floridians actually get a say in the matter. She’s only the State Attorney for District 4, not the whole state. And the biggest city in the biggest county in her electorate is Jacksonville. I don’t know that a lot of people up there will actually have any issues with how she’s conducted this case, unfortunately.

Eloise says voice on tape was GZ. She’s clearly racist.

txantimedia | July 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm

Ouch! That one hurts!

Shouldn’t the jury be asking themselves ‘FBI?! FBI?! WTF does the FBI have to do with this?!’

The FBI is involved in all mundane local murder cases, huh?

George has people getting off their death bed to testify for him… OK, just a little exaggeration there from me…

I do bet she didn’t want to be assaulted for her testimony though.

I like this lady.

Everyone has bugged out of this place. I wonder if thats b/c after Crump got involved the New Black Panthers were hanging out at the main entrance hassling residents.

    MAPTX in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    I would bet that is exactly one of the reasons

    Karla1953 in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Well those Wanted Dead or Alive posters with a residents face on them will do it every time. Feel sorry for the people who had their address tweeted by Spike Lee and others..it was retweeted the other day and now that home has a 24 hr police guard there since there was a pizza delivered there for GZ..he never lived there I might add.

Henry Hawkins | July 9, 2013 at 4:12 pm

Defense attorney nightmare: Near the very end of this lady’s very helpful testimony, she leans back and takes a long swig of Jack Daniels right from the bottle.

    Voluble in reply to Henry Hawkins. | July 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Did she really? I wasn’t watching. But at least she drank hers after testifying instead of before like Rachel.

    Maybe they should put a wet bar on the bench.

Twin Trees Lane. That’s where the tree was that GZ smashed himself in the head with.

Well, that testimony about where the truck was parked certainly fell apart.
They really needed to have her in court with a map.

    fogflyer in reply to fogflyer. | July 9, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Or at least couldn’t they have given her a map and asked her to put an X where the truck was parked?

    Not trying to be too critical, as obviously the defense has a lot of things going on, but still, this just seems like something that would have been so easy to take care of.

Anyone think that MOM did not get to ask the main question he wanted to ask? I don’t think we needed another voice witness. That makes me think she was going to testify to something someone said and was not able to do so.

    Bryan24 in reply to Voluble. | July 9, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    I agree. I don’t really see the point of her testimony. Must have been something they side-barred about.

    595959 in reply to Voluble. | July 9, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Also probably needed evidentiary support for the placement of Zimmerman’s car in the animation. Don’t think that was a fact in evidence until this point.

      Bryan24 in reply to 595959. | July 9, 2013 at 4:29 pm

      Wouldn’t the video re-enactment by Sanford PD allow them to very accurately place the car? The video is in evidence.

        595959 in reply to Bryan24. | July 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm

        I think the animation will be based on statements other than Zimmerman’s.

        kentuckyliz in reply to Bryan24. | July 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm

        Wouldn’t the responding officers that night know where GZ’s SUV was parked? I wonder why people are calling it a truck. Trying to make GZ look like a huntin’ redneck? He’s a suburban dad with a SUV.

Carol Herman | July 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm

Drudge says a “tropical storm” … named Chantral (?) is about to slam into the east coast? In figuring out the “timeline” left for this case, is it possible we will have “Stormy Weather?”

Was Zimmerman’s pistol ever under threat of being stolen?

How was the crime scene protected after the police arrived?

And, is this complex of condos under threat should the verdict come in, in favor of Zimmerman, not create great headaches for “Boneparte?” Who is the City Manager?

All this “race baitng” coming from City elders, themselves, with possible witnesses be the police who got fired, or demoted? No lawsuits, ahead?

Looks like this testimony was taken out of order because of scheduling. Might be useful in closing because she went to
check on GZ’s wife ASAP.

Looking at the silent sidebar anyone else think the TM team looks like Moe, Curly and Larry?

And why do all prosecution attorneys go to the judge’s bench when defense has only MOM?

HRPuffingstuff | July 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm

How brilliant was it to have the last defense witness to identify George’s voice, to be an African American woman?

Defense closes with two excellent witnesses. I suspect it was not lost on the jury that It would have been easy for the last witness to just beg off and tell the defense she was too ill to testify. Whatever pressure was applied to her from the pro-Trayvon contingent was not successful. She is, IMO, a brave woman.

    Harperman in reply to Jim. | July 9, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Honest and upright black people really do outnumber the street thugs. It is just that the street thugs are more visible and vocal. It is no different than any other race or, for example, the police where the bad apples stand out and give the rest a bad name.

      aerily in reply to Harperman. | July 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm

      Agreed, this really isn’t a race problem even though that’s the way the media is playing it. This is an inner city culture issue where folks subscribing to that view point figure that GZ needed to take his beating for the way that he eye balled TM.

      There are plenty of Whites and Hispanics that also follow that culture.

        moonstone716 in reply to aerily. | July 9, 2013 at 4:45 pm

        I don’t know. Have you ever seen a black “talking head” or “analyst” on any of the news networks who thinks GZ should go free? I haven’t. Although that might be just a sign of the networks’ prejudice; but you’d think at least Fox would find someone.

          Have you ever seen a black “talking head” or “analyst” on any of the news networks who thinks GZ should go free? I haven’t.

          I don’t have a TV, so I wouldn’t know about that, but I do know that writing-wise, Thomas Sowell has been quite good on the issue.

          This was one of his first articles on the case in early 2012, before anything much was known, and he warned even then:

          If the facts show that a teenager who was no threat to anyone was shot and killed, it will be time to call for the death penalty. But if the facts show that the shooter was innocent, then it will be time to call for people in the media and in politics to keep their big mouths shut until they know what they are talking about.

          Playing with racial polarization is playing with fire.

          Let the specific facts come out in the Florida case. Have we forgotten the Jim Crow era, with courts making decisions based on the race of the defendants, rather than the facts of the case? That is part of the past that we need to leave in the past, not resurrect under new racial management.

          And on racism more generally, I like the first line of his most recent one: “I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.”

          I don’t know whether he’s ever on TV these days though. I mostly see him via ancient youtube videos of him with William F. Buckley Jr. Good stuff.

    aerily in reply to Jim. | July 9, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    no kidding! There is a strong “snitches get stitches” mentality among the urban population in Chicago. Sadly, out here testimony like that would likely result in getting shot. A brave woman indeed. That also speaks to the character of GZ that someone would be willing to stick their own neck out for him.

      wyntre in reply to aerily. | July 9, 2013 at 4:53 pm

      But there’s also a respect for the older, educated, most likely church-going segment of the black population. The no-nonsense get-on-with-your-life kind and yes, there are millions of them.

      Ever hear of the strong black woman? Miss Eloise typifies that. Women like her strike fear into the hearts of punks and thugs. In some ways they’re off-limits.

Ladies and Gentleman? I thought they’re all female.

Judge just said Mr. Connor (or Conner), so who is he? Is he going to be a witness?

could an attorney explain how the rest of the trial process will go once the defense rests?

more specifically can the defense still try and go after RJ and TM for impeachment by dragging Crump in at some point down the road or do they have to do it before they rest now?

I missed all the story on Crump, so I must have been working. What’s the story on him, please? Did he mess with the tapes or what?

Who’s the cracker behind the brothers?

I saw a blurb on CNN that the defense decided not to admit TM’s toxicology report. I can’t find anything to support that on the web. Did anyone else catch that? Sorry if it’s already been answered.

I already concluded BDLR was a douchebag. Mantei has shown today he is also very capable of douchebaggery.

Have you noticed how all the prosecutors have such snotty attitudes. They really need to be ground and pound.

    wyntre in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Agree. Just like the POS administration, agencies and spokespeople.

    Psaki and Cutter come to mind. Also Lerner, Val-jar, Carney, the alphabet agencies.

    Taking their cue from the boss.

    caambers in reply to styro1. | July 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    I was watching one of the persecutors yesterday, Mantai I think?, and the whole time MOM was talking, he had this weird little smirk going on. I had to think if the jury was present that they had to see that. Wouldn’t go over well with me–unprofessional and immature. Poker faces everyone…poker faces!

Will we be able to see this video or just the people in court?
It sounds like it would be interesting to see.

Uncle Samuel | July 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm

Mantei is being condescending and cynical…almost contemptuous.

    Dr Stiffy in reply to Uncle Samuel. | July 9, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    I think he knows they have lost. I get the feeling this is personal. I think he’s frustrated the trial has not shown him to be the big-shot winner he wanted to be seen as. He really just looks like a jerk now.

Manthei’s taking out his frustration with the way the case is going for the P on this poor guy. I hope judge allows the animation to come in. He’s being too aggressive.

I have believed that putting crump on the stand, barring anything earthshaking, would be a mistake. The race-baiter has spent a lifetime honing his sound bite and one line zinger skills. Although I find ppl like him utterly repulsive, he is after all no different than hate mongering skinheads, he would be prove to be quite a formidable adversary on the stand. He is no Diamond Dee-Dee

    caambers in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 9, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    I disagree…I think he’s a mental midget who has learned to make a good living throwing emotional molotov cocktails. He’s great behind the scenes but I get the impression that if he’s put on the hotseat, he won’t be so brilliant. I kinda doubt MOM is going to put him up because he’s a fellow lawyer in this area and probably something about professional courtesy. I still have a newspaper article from last year where they were at some event and it was yuks all around. Too chummy looking for adversaries.

    MAPTX in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 9, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    but he will have to say TM and RJ lied in their testimony or he is lying now……..that is what I want to see


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