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Post-Zimmerman Verdict Sunday morning Open

Post-Zimmerman Verdict Sunday morning Open

I watched the verdict come while on a 5-hour flight delay at O’Hare last night.  Had there not been a delay, I would have missed it.  Funny how things work.

What amazed me is that prior to the verdict, I heard numerous people talking openly about the case.  It was pretty obvious they were worried about the possibility of a guilty verdict.

After 17 months of following the case intensively, only O’Hare traffic control problems enabled me to see justice done.

But, since I didn’t get home until 3 in the morning, I’m just going to leave this as an “Open” post for a while, for your comments.

I’ll have my own commentary later.



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I have to say, I am so thankful for this blog! I looked long and hard for a clear and concise source of the most unbiased coverage of the Zimmerman trial, not only did I find that here, I found a population of INTELLIGENT people that I can relate to!

It’s so hard living with people that are sure they’re right, and continue to “preach,” in the face of FACTS that show otherwise. It’s sad to see on Facebook that the majority of people don’t understand that they are doing the very things that the mob did in the Salem witch trials. I cannot understand how we have so many people like that, this site is a huge relief for me. Thank you so much.

Sorry if I already posted this, but the Kindle version of “The Law of Self Defense, 2n Edition,” is now available for instant download at, priced at $33.18, the same price we’re charging for the hard-copy of the book at (Amazon charges about $45 for the hard-copy book).

Right now the Kindle version can ONLY be obtained from Amazon, and none of my discount codes will work there. Sorry about that, but it’s their “house”.

The link to the Kindle version is:

–Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

Oh, I should also have mentioned, I made the Kindle book “loanable” so you can share it with other Kindle users if you like. While they “borrow” it, however, it is not available to you.

–Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

    Harperman in reply to Andrew Branca. | July 14, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    I had to LOL at the borrow bit. I own a 5,000+ volume library. I do occasionally lend books but only to certain people and only when I have their name, address, phone number and the name, address and phone number of their first born child…

    Henry Hawkins in reply to Andrew Branca. | July 14, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Now how much would you pay! But that’s not all!

Dem Underground is fun to watch now. Moonbat heads randomly exploding all over the forums. Their MSM Masters have lied to them from the start, so they are shell-shocked.

Several posts asking something close to “an anti-Trayvon said this about reasonable doubt, how do I counter him?”

They keep trying to lock in a narrative for their Commitment & Consistency, but new information keeps coming out about their little “angel”

I guess someone in the Media (hah!) should ask Obama if his daughters are like his son.

A couple of quick notes:

re: Judge Nelson – I watched her expressions during the verdict and during the individual polling of the jurors. She seemed genuinely pleased. Perhaps she was an even better chess player than O’Mara or West. The most rabid TM supporters thought she was ‘theirs’ almost the whole time. Haven’t yet seen a bitter comment about her. Maybe she got the verdict she wanted while appearing to be (and, in my opinion, being) totally pro-prosecution, so she gets a bit of a pass all the way around. Yeah, she may get a nasty-gram from MOM and DW, but she’s a gubmint employee…

re: Race. One of my best friends, who is black, met me for a drink today. The verdict, of course, was discussed. He’s one of the wisest people I know. He carries the wisdom of matriarchs, being raised without a Dad, and he doesn’t have much of a conversation without mentioning his grandmother. I seek advice from him. His comment was this: ‘The guy should have stayed in his car like the police told him.’ He was resolute, not mad. But, I could feel the sadness in his heart as he discussed the police and the courts. My heart is with the guy. It’s tough to argue with logic when he tells stories of vindictiveness by the system. Food for thought…

    Fabi in reply to Fabi. | July 15, 2013 at 12:13 am

    By the way, and for what it’s worth, we met in Scottsboro, Alabama. Yeah, that Scottsboro. At the local golf club. So, again, for what it’s worth – drinking a beer with a black guy in Scottsboro-fucking-Alabama the day after a significant race trial. Poignant? You tell me.

      inquisitivemind in reply to Fabi. | July 15, 2013 at 1:07 pm

      Hey you’re not too far north of me!
      AL isn’t really the armpit of racism like the outsiders would like people to believe.

    theo in reply to Fabi. | July 15, 2013 at 12:44 am

    The race thing… It’s tough. I sorta learned in my teenage years never to be intimidated over racial stuff. In my sophomore year of HS, my family moved across the state and I had to go to a new school. It was really awkward for me trying to make new friends– everyday at lunch I sat at a table with a black student with muscular dystrophy– he was in a wheelchair. He was accompanied every day by his stepfather, who was his caretaker. And there were a few other kids at our table.

    We talked about race constantly because the caretaker was one of those old school ex-black panther types, always talking about Farrakhan, etc. But I never backed down or took a deferential position on race. I thought I handled myself pretty well, because I was just honest and direct and I think people respect that much more than trying to be a milquetoast about it.

    I learned a lot and I got their perspective on a lot, but I also learned to argue my points too and not back down when someone tried to use a race card. I know, I’m a jerk– arguing with a black kid in a wheelchair– but really, it was a great experience for us all.

    A few months ago I was at a party at the home of one of my best friends. I ended up having a vigorous debate with an old acquaintance on the subject of gun rights and gun control. He was losing the debate, so he decided to try to bring up Obama in a favorable light– knowing that there were a couple of black guys standing there– and he didn’t think I’d have the guts to rebut him and dice up Obama in front of these guys. Well… I did.

    And one of the guys was in such a state of disbelief that I could tell from my peripheral vision of him that he assumed that I forgot to scan the room to see if there were any black people standing there. Heck it may have been the first time he’d ever seen a white guy criticize Obama in his presence. He started puffing up his chest, flexing his muscles and trying to make himself look intimidating and get my attention. I ignored this. Then, finally he couldn’t help himself and had to try to get into the conversation. We were both polite to each other, but he was thinking it was going to be an easy win when he started his appeal to racial sentiment. I held firm and calmly started hammering him with facts.

    Then, the best part… the other black guy jumped into the debate on MY SIDE (I guess these guys didn’t know each other very well), and this guy was a HUGE Constitutionalist and a 2nd Amendment supporter and very well educated in all the issues. He argued totally on logic and within about two minutes, the other two guys were outmatched and ready to change the subject.

    There’s hope. Stay firm. Be compassionate and understanding, but never deferential when it’s something on which you know you’re right. As I say, I think most black people respect being challenged on racial issues if its done with honesty and directness. It’s the white liberals who usually get all squirrely and uncomfortable and awkwardly PC about it.

As I read in a post, at least the jurors didn’t buy into the pimps and terrorists that are our government who prey on good parents, all colors included.

OK, so you felt prejudice. Have you ever thought of why. That perhaps its because Blacks commit so much crime (58%), their punk attitude to education, Ebonic speech, radical dress? Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the Black imprint is an undesirable one.
Or how about those Blacks that have succeeded so well and are slandered by Blacks as Uncle Toms, Orioles, etc.
So you felt Whites were skeptical? Well no Shite