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After passing immigration amnesty, Republicans should go on an overseas apology tour

After passing immigration amnesty, Republicans should go on an overseas apology tour

If Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio and others in the Republican Party want to reward adults who broke the immigration laws with citizenship, they should have the guts to announce it as such.

And then go on an overseas apology tour to apologize to the millions if not tens of millions of people waiting patiently in Africa, Asia and South America who respected our immigration laws.

Have the guts to tell the law-abiders they were fools, that they should have just come here on a tourist visa and never left, or jumped the ship or border fence, because they would have been better off. They would have been able to establish lives and families here, and then not only had the threat of deportation removed but also been able to live here legally while waiting for citizenship.

But don’t tell me we have to do amnesty to help with electoral demographics. That’s a highly doubtful proposition to begin with, and is just fear masquerading as strategy and policy.

Bad policy almost always results in bad outcomes, and citizenship for adults who broke our immigration laws is bad policy, it rewards law-breakers and makes a mockery of law-abiders.

Yet that bad policy now is the super-duper Republican strategy:

The top Republican crafting the Senate’s sweeping immigration-reform legislation acknowledged Sunday the bill still has flaws, while a fellow GOP senator said their party blocking its passage will only add to their “demographic death spiral.” …

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who also helped write the bipartisan immigration bill, told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that conservatives trying to block the measure will doom the party and all but guarantee a Democrat will remain in the White House after the 2016 elections.

“After eight years of President Obama’s economic policies, and quite frankly foreign policy, people are going to be looking around,” he said. “But if we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn’t matter who you run in 2016. We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party and the only way we can get back in good graces with the Hispanic community in my view is pass comprehensive immigration reform. If you don’t do that, it really doesn’t matter who we run.”

Oh, looky, Democrats agree:

A Democrat also involved in crafting the bill, New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez, went a step further by predicting on CNN’s “State of the Union” that “there’ll never be a road to the White House for the Republican Party” if immigration overhaul fails to pass.

What better proof do you need?

Maybe we should listen to this student, Cal State Student: If Rubio’s Immigration Bill is so Great, Why Does Obama Support It?

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Get on your phone or email, and make your opposition…indeed, your outrage…at this travesty known.

as Rags said . We and ‘I’ are fighting as hard as we can . I’ve called everyone and e-mailed except ‘Chuckie’.
We know whats going on an how bad the bill is for America and her ‘Citizens.’ Camber of Commence be ‘Damned’ , this ain’t passing. Rubio ,McRino and Lindsey should resign in shame !!

I remember vividly what Ted ‘The Swimmer’ said when passing the 1965 Immigration Bill …. they’ll learn English, they’ll learn our history, they’ll assimilate.

Hogwash! How can our leaders be so stupid? It just boggles the mind.

I’m from Maine so my voice just doesn’t seem to matter to my reps.
all leftists really including sen collins.
have helped people going through the legal process and this pisses me off.
its 1986 squared now.

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to dmacleo. | June 17, 2013 at 9:22 am

    It’s worse that ’86. In ’86 only 3 million got amnesty. This time it is 12 million. After the ’86 amnesty the federal government was required to enforce the border. Instead, they allowed 12 million more people to illegally invade the country, take our jobs, consume public resources like education and healthcare, etc. As the old saying goes, insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. We are insane if we believe they will enforce the border with this amnesty.

I know of no time in history…anywhere in the world…where an immigration amnesty has worked.

    depends on what the desired result is.
    if its just excusing criminals then we’ve done it MANY times here successfully.
    isn’t that just wonderful?

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | June 17, 2013 at 9:32 am

Can anybody explain why a rock solid Republican state like South Carolina has been unable to find a solid Republican to challenge Grahamnesty in a primary next year? Grahamnesty is good on guns, Benghazi, and most foreign policy but he is not consistent. He was making noise about cap and trade nonsense a few years ago. I’m pretty sure he’ll betray us on that if he gets he chance.

I find Trey Gowdy very impressive. He enjoys media interviews, he’s articulate, and he’s conservative. It’s not too late to draft him.

Bruno Lesky | June 17, 2013 at 9:45 am

Does anyone with a brain think Republicans are going to “get into the good graces” of hispanics by voting for amnesty? This is only Obama’s issue for only a natural Democratic constituency.

And even if it were true, it is a treacherous reason to pass this bill.

We now have two technocratic parties. I guess the Republicans are nominally the right side of our technocratic government, but the idea of representative government in the US is dead.

The people collectively don’t want Amnesty any more then they wanted Obamacare – but the state does…and the state will get it.

And enough people will continue to vote for the two halves of the technocratic party that this, like Obamacare, will be the law of the land forever.

    tencz65 in reply to 18-1. | June 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    i agree . But what do we do? Vote them out ? Did that with Rubio over Crist . My vote and money wasted. Government is Mad , Crazy Mad .

I fear that the “death spiral” that Grahamnesty thinks will be avoided by this travesty will become a reality once the Senate passes this abomination–in the form of us making a beeline to leave the GOP.

Graham basically admits it’s pandering and vote-buying. He unintentionally reveals the deep psychological captivity and impotence of his party. They can’t and haven’t ever been able to respond to Obama in an immediate, vigorously conservative way commensurate with his serial assaults of leftism — their fear and self-loathing make this impossible. So instead they come up with these periodic, grand and twisted responses: they’ll out pander Obama (while simultaneously attempting to appease the media who hate them beyond any possibility of appeasement).

Their fear and loathing manifests itself the most when we challenge them. We’re the real enemy — we, as Graham would say, “the loud people.” We force them to face the harrowing truth of their fear and weakness. They hate us for this.

His statement about the “death spiral” is exquisitely revealing, and he’s got it half right. They are in a death spiral — because of masochistic, illogical and immoral bills like immigration reform. Their “solutions” are in fact the causes. He’s locked them into the fatal spiral. Graham is the face and spirit of the institutional GOP. It would be ideal if their self-loathing could lead to a neat, tidy end for all of them. Unfortunately, in politics, the internal dramas of weak and miserable men like Graham can have explosive national consequences.

    tencz65 in reply to raven. | June 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Raven a great post . But ‘Pander ?’ To msm ? U an i both know the Gop will never get respect from msm tell they the Gop play ‘Hard Ball .’ Msm has nothing to fear from the Gop and it’s ‘Nose Bleeders.’ Just look at the speaker , he’s scared of Barry !

Sad that so many lawyers in Congress are so quick to piss on the rule of law. They have no idea what a hell hole lawlessness brings.

Their fear of what they think the media and Left will do to them in the popular culture for blocking passage of this bill is vastly greater than their abstract fear of the grassroots voters in 2014.

That’s just the reality. We have to make them afraid of us.

When we call them we need to tell them their money sources and reservoir of conservative voters will dry up if they allow this bill to be passed. Forget talking about principle or right and wrong. They’re lost to this argument. Make it about money and votes.

I don’t want this bill passed for many reasons — foremost as the Prof outlines it rewards criminality. And I fear the economic consequences for existing citizens. How many illegal immigrants are there anyway? 11 million as Rubio guesses? Why doesn’t NSA check their data base and find out? 20 million? 30 million? Who knows? And what would the numbers be if chain amnesty is included?

Here is a point only to be examined clinically (translation: don’t call me “racist!”): what kind of civilization do we aspire to?
“[The] Manhattan Institute’s Heather MacDonald has chronicled Hispanic social trends. Half of all Latino children in the US are now born out of wedlock. The birthrate among unmarried Hispanic women is higher than that among whites, Asians, or blacks. More than half the Hispanic children in this country now live in poor households headed by a single mom.” (2009)

Then more about ensuing gangs, crime, drugs, violence, government dependency etc. at http://www.nationalreview.com/content/immigration-tax-credit-scandal

Legal immigration for the capable.

Congress is supposed to pass laws because they are good for the country, not because they are good for getting votes.

We need one-term limits.

Henry Hawkins | June 17, 2013 at 11:22 am

This all becomes more understandable when you realize that the GOP establishmentals (Rubio, Graham, et al) are pandering for votes, alright, but not for Hispanic votes. The math simply doesn’t work – they’ll lose if they get all Hispanic voters.

They are pushing amnesty to pander to young independents.

While the parts of this bill that are getting the most attention are deplorable, the parts being kept under cover (remember “We have to pass this bill to see what’s in it”?) are even worse!

This Senate immigration bill provides public funding for community organizations/organizers (only “progressive” ones — others are ineligible because their non-profit bona fides are being “withheld” by the IRS). The supposed purpose of this funding is to “educate immigrants about citizenship,” or, as one of the recipient groups puts it, to “build political power through citizenship drives and voter registration.”

Betsy McCaughey (who actually read the bill) cites the specific sections for this horrendous misuse of public funds.

    donb in reply to donb. | June 17, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Oops! The link provided in my post has been moved behind a pay-wall!

    Here’s a synopsis — the specific sections cited in the original (longer) article were “sections 2106, 2534, 2535 and 2536” of the Senate immigration bill.

Attention Lindsey Graham:

“[Obama and White House officials] expect to seize the credit from Latinos once a bill is signed … ‘We’re not worried about short-term political credit. We’ll get plenty of it if it gets signed,’ the official told The New Yorker.”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/17/obama-runs-immigration-bill-from-white-house-according-to-new-report/#ixzz2WUUATI1a

NO. Not just an apology tour to the millions of applicants who abide by the law.

I want these two to make an apology tour to the families and graves of the generations of servicemen who drew our sovereign borders with their own blood only to have it desecrated by the soles of a feral horde of fence jumpers.

To hell with them.

ITEM: “SCOTUS strikes down citizenship provision in Arizona’s voter registration law”
…doesn’t this make the PRIMARY REASON the d-cRAT socialists want AMNESTY for ILLEGALS moot?

Subotai Bahadur | June 17, 2013 at 1:32 pm

18-1 above is right in the description of the death of representative government in this country. The Constitution is gone. That is an inescapable fact. The rule of law is gone. The party controlling the Executive Branch does exactly what it wants to do. We have not had a constitutional budget for 5 years, so the power of the purse is gone. The Executive routinely ignores Congressional subpoenas and queries, and when they do deign to appear before Congress, they perjure themselves even more routinely.

The Courts make no impression on the Executive, as they ignore rulings they do not like. q.v. The National Labor Relations Board is operating totally illegally according to court rulings, because it does not have a legal quorum. The key there being “is operating” because it is still issuing and enforcing decrees as if it were legal.

We have an “opposition” party which is merely another faction competing for its turn to oppress the rest of us, and which has no disagreement with any of the oppression, but just wants to be in charge of it. The Republican party has just as much contempt for the people of the United States as the Democrats.

Our electoral system is hopelessly corrupted, with vote fraud far passing the level where elections cannot be trusted, with more registered voters than people being far from unusual in Democrat controlled areas, and Democrat controlled districts turning out far more than 100% of that falsely inflated number for the Democrat candidate and none for the opponent. Poll watchers are forcibly removed from polling places and non-Democrats are threatened in the streets by Democrat thugs with no recourse and no penalty for the assailants. There is no legal reason or means for boxes of cast ballots to be in the personal possession of Democrat party officials; and yet in close elections they regularly turn up in their closets, basements, or car trunks weeks after the election and are counted.

The latest revelations about the massive use of the coercive organs of the State domestically against any who oppose any Democrats, and the spying on all means of communications and the internet by the government seems to explain why even those Republicans who could be expected to put up pro-forma resistance are collaborating with the Left. How many politicians do you know who are not vulnerable to either threats or blackmail, or both?

The Republican Speaker of the House and his minions vote with Nancy Pelosi far more often than they do the Republican caucus on key issues. Chief Justice John Roberts reversed himself 180 degrees days before the Supreme Court ruled the blatantly unconstitutional Obamacare statute to somehow be simultaneously unconstitional and yet still constitutional because it was a tax.

The Left now even owns the token opposition. We are living in a one party state unbound by any limitations.

This morning the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that proof of citizenship is forbidden in voter registration. The Left now has no restrictions at all on creating false votes.

I submit to the Professor, his associates, and to my fellow readers: In the limited time remaining [if such still exists] before a dictatorship cannot be resisted; given the above please list a political means short of either the Clausewitzian equation or fantasy whereby the Constitution and the rule of law can be restored.

Subotai Bahadur

    tencz65 in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | June 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    can SCOTUS justice’s be impeached ? What dirt does the government have on them do to NSA ? Roberts gave me a Heart-attack on Obamacare

      Subotai Bahadur in reply to tencz65. | June 17, 2013 at 3:55 pm

      Only if a majority of the House [remember, Boehner and his people vote with the Democrats] votes a bill of impeachment, and the Democrat controlled Senate convicts. Neither of which will happen in this space-time continuum.

      Subotai Bahadur

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