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Boston manhunt brought people together over desire to have a gun

Boston manhunt brought people together over desire to have a gun

Even most Democrats and liberals wanted a gun

This is a follow up to my post about the bitter Twitter action during the lock-down of Boston in the search for the bombers, Boston lock-down exposes gun culture divide.

The reaction to a tweet from an Arkansas state representative was particularly vigorous, revealing more about cultural perceptions (NSFW) than the usefulness of a gun.

It looks like the divide may be deep, but not very wide.  A substantial majority of people want to have a gun in their home if there is a manhunt ongoing.

Even a majority of Democrats and liberals wanted a gun.

Fox News poll: During a manhunt, 69 percent of voters want a gun:

On Friday, the nation watched as the Boston area went under lockdown during a  manhunt for the armed and dangerous marathon bombing suspect.  If you were  in that situation, would you want a gun at your side?

Most  American voters say yes, according to a new Fox News poll.

Sixty-nine percent say if they were in a situation similar to Bostonians,  they would want a gun in their house.

That includes a large 88-percent majority of those in gun-owner households,  as well as 50 percent of those in non-gun homes.

Fox Poll Gun Owner Manhunt Q43

Fox Poll Gun Owner Manhunt Q43 - details

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YES, someone guessed that at least 200 rounds of ammunition was used by police during the shoot-out and Colorado passed laws limiting magazines to 15. If trained law enforcement needs 200 rounds to stop one jihadist in Massachusetts, what would 15 rounds stop in Colorado?
These are dangerous times with armed sleeper cells in so many states and the muslim sympathizer occupying the WH focus is in disarming civilians. Insanity!

    I agree and I don’t understand why some parts of the country are so eager to disarm themselves. The “indians” are always around us and you never know when you’ll have to circle the wagons in self defense.

Only government agents and undocumented gun owners should have the right to act in self-defense. Other people should announce proudly that they are low risk and opportunity cost targets. In fact, they should be required by law to paint a bulls-eye on their back. There should be no question that they have deferred both their dignity and life to the stewardship of others.

There is an alternative: redistributive change. We can have a minority (e.g. government) consolidate capital and control, and with a superior intelligence and morality, arbitrarily determine the value of each man, woman, and child. This would shift the value proposition for further acts of involuntary exploitation to this empowered minority. Well, in cases other than murder, rape, abortion, and other acts of assault with the intent to terminate, torture, maim, or otherwise invalidate a human life.

In any case, there should be a selective presumption of guilt and a treatment accordingly.

As for people who choose to not defer their dignity and delegate stewardship of their lives, they can purchase guns supplied by the Federal government to arm criminal cartels, terrorists, and “rebels” in Mexico, Libya, Syria, etc. I suggest Mexico for its convenient proximity, and since we have a de facto agreement with the Mexican authorities to enjoy the full privileges of citizenship.

    stevewhitemd in reply to n.n. | April 24, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Someone’s been reading Leviathan 😉

    That is weapons-grade snark. Do you have a license for that?

      Does power corrupt or do the corrupt seek power?

      Many have been so arrogant to believe they could tame the Leviathan. None have succeeded for any enduring period.

      I observe the efficiency of centralized systems, while recognizing the robustness of distributed systems, including a design to control progressive corruption.

    JoAnne in reply to n.n. | April 24, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Oh where oh where is the like button?!!

      n.n in reply to JoAnne. | April 24, 2013 at 9:53 pm

      There is a preponderance of inconsistencies and overt conflicts. Fortunately, I am not so vulnerable, or opportunistic, to ignore these obvious discrepancies. This is not conspiracy theory backed by insurmountable circumstantial evidence. We have full awareness, if only limited control, of the situation.

      Well, that, and the Little Clinic of Horrors (aka Gosnell’s abortion clinic) is on my mind. Along with thoughts of involuntary exploitation, before and after birth, dancing through my head.

      Hopefully, we will reach a mutually agreeable compromise on these matters and every other. I think the seminal judgment will be made when we finally and firmly establish the moment a human life acquires value and recognize that our rights have to be mutually reconcilable.

I have seen a remarkable transformation in my area. Due to Obama’s policies, even ardent liberals, even those that voted for this scum are arming up. I have friends that would never consider owning a firearm, which is strange in that I live in the South, and these people are getting pistols and taking lessons in how to kill. Obama has certainly transformed the US.

One concern off topic. Why haven’t you commented on the true tragedy of the Boston bombing? The actual bomb only caused about a much injury and death as is seen in many busy ER’s in a given week. Yet the true tragedy was the police response. We have video of cops pointing guns at law abiding citizens in their homes, forcing them out on the street and conducting searches of their homes without warrants (sure they gave permission, what else do you do when someone is threatening to kill you). This was all totally unnecessary. We have had similar searches in my neighborhood, with equally as bad guys, and the cops came to the door and checked that everything was ok. They searched the yard, but did not break every Constitutional rule in the book. Just as in Boston, our event was brought to a conclusion by citizens joining in the search, for which the cops were appreciative and encouraged. Every aspect of this case at every level by the government was incompetent, inept and tyrannical. It also shows that our government is incapable of determining who are the good guys and who are the bad and still don’t understand that Islam is not our friend. No one will condone profiling, but they have no problem with ignoring other rights

    BannedbytheGuardian in reply to david7134. | April 24, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Without joining up to any theory here I certainly took note of those images. I am not sure I have ever seen those scenes in any western city.

    Except for the nice houses the closest I can recall is ( ironically ) Putin’s Special Ops cleaning up Grozny . They went house to house & dragged everyone out & patrolled the place with tanks . Citizens were all treated as terrorists & had guns aimed at them .

    One improvement by Boston was at they were let back in . not so Groznyans – they were exiled.

    The west used those images against Russia & allowed Chechnyans to claim Assylum.

    A question is – if this was needed for 2 terrorists imagine what it will be for 100 or 1000 or 100,000.

    Juba Doobai! in reply to david7134. | April 24, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    It’s called the People’s Republic of Massachusetts for a reason.

Don’t tell Turd Nugget and the rest of the twits at pmsnbc.

As soon as Bloomy and Obummer are successful in disarming US, then their “Hate Speech” laws will be enacted. Feinstein, et al, can hardly wait!

    Juba Doobai! in reply to Doug Wright. | April 24, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    No, then people will be arrested for offending the thin skinned.

      Doug Wright in reply to Juba Doobai!. | April 24, 2013 at 9:28 pm

      “No,” really? The answer should then be “Yes” because “Hate Speech” is all about how much the thin skinned or easily offended object to any saying they dislike and especially of any political view not agreeing with their own view of how our lives should be ordered to meet their needs, which are mostly that of needing to control the vast and unruly Hoi Polloi.

I’m ready. And I will be going to the gun range this Saturday with Sig Sauer.

Who are those “don’t know” people?

Juba Doobai! | April 24, 2013 at 8:12 pm

I guess the liberals in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts got mugged by terrorism.

Reality bites.

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