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Anonymous staunch 2nd Amendment supporters?

Anonymous staunch 2nd Amendment supporters?

I told you on Monday, when I announced that I was joining both the NRA and EFF that

The Tea Party movement has more in common with the hacktivist community than either side wants to admit.

That common ground is not expansive.  The Tea Party movement certainly is not Occupy or anarchist, and the Occupy crowd is not singing the praises of the Founding Fathers and adherence to the Constitution.  And not all of the hactivist community is “Anonymous” or similar.  My prior post was directed more at the Aaron Swartz’s of the world than at the Anonymous’s of the world.

There may be some further proof of what I was saying in that some members of the Anonymous hacker group appear — and I stress “some members” and “appear” — to have come out against attempts by the government to infringe 2nd Amendment rights.  I thought the news might be a hoax, and still am suspicious, but an Anonymous related Twitter account seems to confirm it.

Via PJ Tatler:

The international hacktivist group Anonymous today warned of “insurrection in America” as the government controls and twists the narrative on gun-related incidents.

Known for the Guy Fawkes masks worn at protests, Anonymous has styled itself as an anti-authority crusader against government corruption and lack of transparency, and supported the Occupy protests. And now the hackers are stepping into the gun control debate, warning in a lengthy message today that “throughout history authoritarian governments have used gun violence as an excuse to take peoples firearms and control there population.”

“Obama has been working hard to try and ban semi-automatic weapons and shotguns while at the same time increasing the weapons and firepower that police and government agencies have. Within minutes of the Connecticut shooting, politicians were on the state run media saying it was time to get rid of the guns and they will be talking about it for weeks to come,” Anonymous wrote on its blog. “The Obama administration and his government funded media have been promoting this idea for months. Everytime there is a shooting performed by a crazy person the media talks about it non-stop for weeks or months. But when there is an illegal or unlawful shooting by police that does not fit Obama’s agenda the story is barely mentioned.”

I don’t know if it’s real or not, but it’s a good listen to:

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Comments

BannedbytheGuardian | January 17, 2013 at 5:35 pm

Heehee.

2 days ago I had Anonymous joining The Lesliedemocratea Party .

How can I be so right so often sitting on a couch 8,000 miles away . I am definitely not psychic – it must be my dod next to me.

Proof Cuomo had the confiscation of weapons in the bill passed Monday. Language was taken out because it would not have passed. Here’s McLaughlin on the issue.

This is chilling. Remember when Crapo originally spoke about confiscation back in December?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryUbJfg4tAo&feature=player_embedded

BannedbytheGuardian | January 17, 2013 at 5:46 pm

Seriously though , Anonymous are an international group that respect no borders. Further they prefer rapid strike & disappear leaving only a minimal footprint.

I have watched the dynamics of their ally Wikileaks. They have been no assistance.

    fulldroolcup in reply to BannedbytheGuardian. | January 17, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Hey! I saw your nic and wanted to tell you that I am “BannedbyReuters”.

    Why? I have no idea.

    I think lefties grant cubicle-dwelling techies with censorship powers, irrespective of any commonsense rules about “free speech”.

It bears reminding….again and again…that what leftists refer to as “the narrative” is nothing more than the Soviet Marxists’ “the party line”.

I suggest anyone faced with someone talking about “the narrative” tell him he’s just “spouting the party line”.

Watch the reaction.

FWIW, Anonymous has been instrumental in seeking justice for the 15 year old girl gang raped by members of the Steubenville Ohio football team.

When Palin mentioned “crony capitalism” in her Indianola speech most commentators overlooked it because they still want to pigeon hole her as a right wing airhead. Yet they only had to look at her record in Alaska (and the enemies she gained there) to realise that she is no friend of those huge corporations who lobby their ways into govt contacts both in the UK and US, greasing the palms of targeted and getting special treatment in return.
Now it is not unusual for a conservative to be suspicious of cartels and rigged markets and restrictive laws so it’s possible for there to be, at times, a meeting of minds between libertarians and anarchists. So, if Anon is also sniffy about gun control proposals I don’t see why they should be rebuffed.

BannedbytheGuardian | January 17, 2013 at 9:12 pm

According to Weasels , Move On is begging for 200,000 today to fight NRA ads. & bolster Obama effort.

I am [mostly] anonymous and a staunch Second Amendment supporter. I recognize that necessary to the security of a free State, and, in following, the security of a free people, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I recognize that while legal proscriptions do increase risk for law-abiding citizens, they do not infringe upon a criminal to act, especially to commit murder.

I recognize that only the initial responder (i.e. potential victim), is capable of preserving their life and property before losing one or both. That the initial response should immediately increase risk to the criminal and opportunity cost for carrying out an act of involuntary exploitation.

That said, as criminals are held accountable, as government agents are held accountable, so too should private citizens be held accountable when demonstrating poor judgment in the defense of life and property. With power comes responsibility.

Anonymous and the anti-globo/anarchist folks are pretty big on rights; not so much on responsibility. The Tea Party is pretty much the bourgeoisie. They intersect in a suspicion of the rulers, not so much on property rights.

BannedbytheGuardian | January 17, 2013 at 11:51 pm

Bonanza. To Wyntre ….

At this very very moment Lee Stranahan is doing the Steuanville thing on Blogradio.

Seems Anonymous are not happy at all & have used civility. Complaints to have his WordPress blog on this taken down . Haha.

I am not always a big fan of Breitbart – don’t like Nolte – but I am going with a Breitbart journalist over Anonymous .

BannedbytheGuardian | January 18, 2013 at 12:21 am

II have also been following the Lance Armstrong thing on another blog .

Anonymous or Bully cheatin Lance.

Both use masking very effectively but only one is honest.

BannedbytheGuardian | January 18, 2013 at 2:15 am

Anyhow everyone – thanks for the fun today.

It was a good diversion because it was 112′ Fahrenheit (45c )here today & the best thing ito do is lay low & keep the roads clear for fire & medical emergencies. I ranged between the sofa & the fridge.

So far across the nation no lives lost in the most extreme heat since 1939 & high winds in many areas.

We do these things better than anyone.

All you puncy dem fire states eg Cali Colorado Wa come & learn how to do it proper.

The freedom of information act (FOIA) works in mysterious ways.

Now, if a hactivist were to release Eric Holder’s emails and David Gregory’s emails then information would be freed up. (Just thinking out loud.)

This is the second post in a week at LI getting touchy/feely with hardcore leftists.

Let me know how sleeping with the enemy works out for ya….

Mister Natural | January 18, 2013 at 9:18 am

In the event the Nazis successfully invaded Britain in WW2
A special “Military Economic
Staff England” was set up on July 27 to achieve the first aim. Everything
but normal household stocks was to be confiscated at once. Hostages
would be taken. Anybody posting a placard the Germans didn’t like
would be liable to immediate execution, and a similar penalty was provided
for those who failed to turn in firearms or radio sets within twentyfour
hours.

Rather than strong 2A supporters, Anonymous is more like a group of anti-government activists…would be anarchists maybe.

Which until very recently is an attitude I found ludicrous.

What about Anon hacking the surveillence tapes of the gunman entering the school in Conn. Don’t want to see the shootings just want to see what he is carrying…

Also wouldn’t it be fantastic to get medical information regarding the shooter? What sort of meds was he taking?

Not sure what happened to my first comment where I asked that Anonymous find the surveillence video at the Conn. School and release just the portion that shows the shooter entering the school. Given the conspiracy theories floating around it would be educational to see with our own eyes what sort of weapons he carried into the school.

I would prefer to stay as far away from Anonymous as possible. Anarchy is not my thing and quite frankly, their tactics terrorize. On-line lynch mobs, secure data published, personal lives ruined – all this & more in the name of some goal they deem to be noble? Makes my blood run cold.

Perhaps Anonymous will be the exception, due to their defining anonymity which slows the process, but historically just about every subversive organization gets co-opted from within sooner or later, usually to be forced toward a greater anarchic existence, doing increasingly ugly things.

    Browndog in reply to Henry Hawkins. | January 18, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Stop it already.

    Tired, I am, of all this talk around here, grasping at straws, trying to convince each other that all these anarchy groups are somehow not connected to ANACHISTS

    …all in the pursuit of finding an ally.

      Browndog in reply to Browndog. | January 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm

      Oops.

      Spelling falters when your banging on the keyboard, instead of typing.

      Let’s try a correct spelling (complete with a generic definition)

      ANARCHY

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