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Vice Presidential Debate Night

Vice Presidential Debate Night

Starts at 9 p.m. Eastern.

This is just an open thread for people to make their feelings known.  I’m not going to “live blog” it.

But I may jump in with some thoughts as it goes along.

And at the end, there will be an assessment.

So have at it.

Post script — this pretty much sums up Biden’s behavior (h/t Hot Air):



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quiksilverz24 | October 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm

Prof, what impact do you think the movie Argo can have on the election and references to the Benghazi terrorist attack?

streaming page if anyone wants to watch w/o youtube comment stuff

I feel like I’m waiting for game seven of the World Series.

Libya This debate wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t for Romney/Ryan

-Stephanie Cutter

Warming up my Twitter account, and looking forward to sharing this evening with my LI friends.

I’m looking for Biden to come out aggresively in a Big Bird costume.

Raddatz looks like Skeletor

Looks like she wants to get Libya out of the way.

Steady hand and clear vision? Really want to go there Biden?

Biden spent about 20 seconds on Libya only, then moved on

Wow — Biden’s Blaming Romney for Libya failures. Didn’t know Romney was POTUS. #VPDebate #tcot

Exactly Ryan – Obama projects weakness beyond weakness abroad.

There, there Biden – getting impatient – Oh wow, malarky?

Obama has ruined alliances.

Uh oh ..they both look bad

BS Biden – lying through your teeth.

VetHusbandFather | October 11, 2012 at 9:12 pm

Somebody needs to set the record straight. Bush coordinated the Iraq withdrawal with Prime Minister Al Malakai in December 2008. All Obama did was follow the schedule that was already agreed to.

#Malarky is exactly what Biden is offering now.

Keep laughing Joe – as America is being targeted.

Biden is being rude.

Credibility is a problem for this administration.

Biden’s chuckling, as if terrorism is funny.

You prevent war when the other guy is afraid of you, not bowing or apologizing.

christ the sob just lied his ass off

That’s twice now Raddatz has cut off Ryan when answering a question, but Biden has been allowed to go on

Biden keeps laughing. Does not look good.

She is so annoying.

Skeletor is not a good moderator

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 9:19 pm

I hate the moderator.

Hey Biden: How are we going to know when Iran gets the bomb SINCE our intelligence is so bad, it screwed up in Libya?

VetHusbandFather | October 11, 2012 at 9:19 pm

Lehrer was a much better moderator in my opinion. She’s inserting herself way too much about this.

Slow Joe is trying to be all folksy, but eventually the smell of “malarky” is going to permeate the theater.

Biden brings up the UN speech, but fails to mention the fact that our ambassador did not leave when Ahmedinejihad (my spelling) was giving his speech, and they left when Netanyahu was speaking. Øbama didn’t meet any of our “allies” at the UN did he? He kept campaigning.

Joe might be drunk

Well I guess Raddatz wants to debate Ryan too

Keep laughing Biden – looking like a fool. Not seeming to take the issues seriously.

How can we have the world behind us if Obama said we are leading from behind?

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 9:21 pm

Biden is an idiot. There was a report earlier in the week that Iran is 2 months away from a nuclear weapon. I’m woefully ill informed, but looks like I trump Biden.

I wish Ryan had brought up Obama went to a fundraiser on the day our ambassador was murdered

Midwest Rhino | October 11, 2012 at 9:22 pm

Biden cackling … rolling eyes … throwing pies. Not sure how that goes over after all his gaffes. He’s looking like a clown.

Does old Joe know that the mechanicals of an atomic bomb are the “easy” part? They can get parts from the Norks for sure, and maybe others, like some of our “allies”.

Joe’s snorts and feigned expressions of “disbelief” are becoming as annoying as Gore’s sighs.

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 9:23 pm

Has anyone else noticed that she is giving Biden the last word on every issue?

While I might be biased in favor of Ryan, I really don’t think Biden looks very effective here

So far, Biden is able to talk over Ryan in a way that makes him seem like a father correcting a slow son. Why doesn’t Ryan seize the initiative??? I want to see the smackdown come.

I wonder why Joe is smirking when Raddatz says Øbama promised to get the unemployment rate under 6%?

You had 3 1/2 years to get unemployment to 6%

VetHusbandFather | October 11, 2012 at 9:24 pm

All Biden is doing is laughing at Ryan and trying to cut him off. Interspersed with lies.

Angry Joe! I wanna see Ryan’s response

Ah, the 47% comes, delivered with fake, practiced outrage!

Oh – Biden’s had it up to here. Big deal – you said the middle class has been buried these past four years by you and Obama.

Ooooo! Ryan whacks Joe with the Scranton unemployment figures!

Keep laughing Biden – as America struggles.

I never thought I would say that Biden is more polished than Øbama!

Biden’s coming off like a mean, nasty, lying bully. Ryan looks like a calm leader.

WOW! Whacked with the gaffes!

Exactly say what you mean Biden – like “Stand up Chuck.”

Midwest Rhino | October 11, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Biden is being a jerk … everyone will notice how they treat someone that gives facts.

Ryan should point out Obama saved the unions, not GM. Bankruptcy would have been better

Stupid Joe just brought up GM. Stupid.

Exactly Biden – you and Obama need to get out of the way.
Biden is pretty scattered in his attacks – not consistent or focus.

Proof Ryan is winning – Biden had to play the sympathy card.

Go Ryan! Obama & the dems had the power for the first two years and look at America now.

Biden is giving Ryan so much ammunition, I wonder if Ryan is just trying to figure out which is the best option. But as long as he keeps mugging at the crowd, Biden will have the look of someone who is joking with the audience in a “Can you believe this guy?” kind of way.

Yeah, Sheriff Joe – what happen to the stimulus?

My God, can Raddatz interrupt Ryan any more?! She lets Biden go on and on and then interrupts Ryan…and now allows Biden to interrupt!

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Biden – liar, liar, pants on fire…

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Someone needs to time each of the answers. It may be me, but seems like Biden is going longer than Ryan.

Ryan – say our credit has been downgraded because of the stimulus and spending.

I have no idea how this will play across America.

    Browndog in reply to PhillyGuy. | October 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Guessing Ryan looking meek, Joe looking in charge.

      pixels in reply to Browndog. | October 11, 2012 at 9:47 pm

      Seems so. It looks desperate from our angle, but from the 5-7second soundbyte world… Biden may come out looking like he was amused by Ryan’s “lies” and “fumbling” when a “real moderator” “held his feet to the fire”. This debate is forcing me to abuse sarcquotes.

here it comes

I don’t think the permanent smirk on Joe’s face is going to help him. Laughing at your opponent in a debate isn’t going to win it.

Go Ryan go – facts are amazing. Wow, Biden remembers Palin – Death panels are actual. Americans aren’t falling for it Joe.

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:38 pm

Oooooh – the scary, evil vouchers – I’m so afraid.

Contemptuous disdain for Ryan will backfire on Biden. If Ryan keeps his cool, the stampede of Independents to Romney will be deafening.

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:39 pm

Hey Joe – your progressive claptrap is what’s old and doesn’t work; never could.

Biden acting like a child – whahh whahh – Ryan is the grown-up.

Joe’s blathering incoherently.

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Now Biden is whining about Ryan taking the “whole four minutes” – c’mon Joe, suck it up like a big boy and let the other guy speak without talking over him, you boor.

Wow, Biden looking (being) an interruping jerk. And the weird faces!

Big bird costume would’ve been better, Joe.

Muttering over Ryan is not helping Biden, makes you look desperate.

Notice how in the first segment, Biden projected Mitt Romney’s statement on the Cairo embassy’s apology to cover Libya.

Didn’t we hear that there was no MSM coverage of Libya because they had been so busy bashing Romney for his Cairo statements ?

But now, “Mitt jumped the gun before he knew about the deaths in Libya”, when that’s not what Romney even talked about.

Yeah, Biden remind everyone how long you’ve been in congress – too long.

again, I really can’t figure out how this plays out

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Yup, Obama/Biden doesn’t have a record to run on, so they have to smirk and lie their way through these debates.

What studies Biden? Studies done by democrat groups? Really?

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Joe, what do you know about common sense?

Joe’s laugh and disparaging remarks and interruptions signal desperation and sounds creepy.

He has passed the a-hole line.

Did the moderater and Joe Biden rehearse their performance together prior to the debate ?? The timing of everything is way too slick. and NOT to Ryan’s benefit…

I never really minded Biden, but I now have a severe dislike of him.

He is just giving the same old democrat talking points, Republicans want to kill medicare, kill social security, feed dog food to seniors, blah blah blah.

VetHusbandFather | October 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm

My prediction from the debate so far: Dems will be rallied by Joe’s ‘strong arm’ form. Republicans will largely sa that Biden was a jerk while Ryan was calm and reasonable. No clear winner, but it will give the Dems an ego boost. The people who really matter (independents) will be put off by Biden being a jerk, and polls will stay largely the same with independents trending towards Romney.

According to the voter dials, Biden’s coming off like an absolute jackass.

Biden is acting like a drunken boor… He’s preaching to the choir. Ryan is preaching to the middle. Half-way to success.

Midwest Rhino | October 11, 2012 at 9:47 pm

Biden proves he has the biggest mouth … and can’t stand to have the other guy heard.

That was a good line by Ryan, looking at the camera and telling the middle class to watch out the tax man will be coming for him

Where are Obama’s specifics?

Laughing out of fear Biden – you just lost this debate.

If Ryan wants to make Biden’s head explode, he should ask him to define the word “fair” (and “literally”)!

Ryan just destroyed Biden in this segment.

What a horses a$$ Biden is. All the smirking and interrupting just drives me crazy.

You don’t “pay for tax cuts” you idiot Moderator. Tax Cuts allow for revenue increases.