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Vice Presidential Debate Night

Vice Presidential Debate Night

Starts at 9 p.m. Eastern.

This is just an open thread for people to make their feelings known.  I’m not going to “live blog” it.

But I may jump in with some thoughts as it goes along.

And at the end, there will be an assessment.

So have at it.

Post script — this pretty much sums up Biden’s behavior (h/t Hot Air):



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nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Hey, Joe – didn’t you learn to take turns in kindergarten?

Biden’s agressiveness helped him at first, but now it’s getting irritating.

The democrats didn’t give specifics on Obamacare – Ms. Raddatz.

My god…what a JERK is Biden!

And what a snarky witch the moderator is. Ryan should ask her, “I hope Barack Obama had a good time at your wedding.”

Biden is acting like such an a-hole.

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:53 pm

Joe, you’re getting irritating now – shaddup and go away.

Joe Biden just “Al Gored” the VP Debate. Ryan wins for statesmanship and class.

Would Biden and Raddatz stop interrupting – wow – be quiet already. Let Ryan speak.

Kudos to Ryan for being calm and cool – I would’ve lost my patience with these two.

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 9:55 pm

WORST moderator ever. They just tag teamed Ryan.

I guess Ryan is not allowed to answer any question without Biden interrupting or Raddatz cuts him off. When is she going to hold Biden accountable

Midwest Rhino | October 11, 2012 at 9:55 pm

moderator cuts off Ryan to argue and change subject

97 % of small business don’t make over 200,000 a year ….what biden does not tell you is that 3 % is 100,000 small businesses …or more not sure of the numbers but its something like that

Damn, Raddatz really is so biased.

It’s hard to debate a lying madman. Ryan’s cool is impressive.

Radatz is an unspeakable partisan.

Joe Biden is an unspeakable liar.

Biden has interrupted too much – he should lose time to respond.

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:56 pm

Finally figured out what Biden’s smirk reminds me of – a grinning chimp.

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 9:57 pm

She just scoughed at Ryan.

nordic_prince | October 11, 2012 at 9:57 pm

How many troops have been killed since Obummer took office? Moderator didn’t bother to mention that figure.

Biden’s acting like a high school punk.

I sincerely believe that Jeff Dunham’s character (a dummy no less!) Walter.

He is a boorish bully. And a pompous ass. He is trying to dazzle us with BS.

Biden says stupid stuff. Ryan tries to respond. Radatz raises her hand (RUDE!), tells Ryan to shut up, and moves on.

Biden is losing big. Not even Radatz can save him.

Biden should stop using my friend; it sounds petty.

Debate winners thus far:

1st- Raddatz

2nd- Biden

3rd- That other guy that keeps interrupting them

I didn’t see the Al Gore sighing debate debacle. Was it like Biden’s unsportsmanlike behavior tonight?

    Mercyneal in reply to LukeHandCool. | October 11, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Biden’s behavior is much, much worse than Gore’s sighing.

    Mutnodjmet in reply to LukeHandCool. | October 11, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    I am seeing comparison’s to Al Gore’s performance on Twitter. Yes, the arrogance was just like that — but in this case, it was worse. Gore actually tried to offer some facts, Biden has been making it up as he goes along.

    And his use of “my friend” is just awful.

    This cannot be appealing to independent voters.

I am a pretty calm guy, but Biden’s constant lack of respect and asinine behavior would provoke me to knock his plugs out.

Ryan doesn’t sit there and interrupt and make 3rd grade schoolboy noises at Biden, does he?

    theduchessofkitty in reply to Dimsdale. | October 11, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    The Duke has been telling me he definitely wants to punch Joe Biden. The words he used to describe him are… well… not suitable for this esteemed corner of the Web.

    This “moderator” should have recused herself, or thrown out. Her bias is showing in droves. This was a trap.

Obviously Biden is trying to make up for Obama not challenging Romney, but there’s being aggressive and being rude and I’m pretty sure Biden is not coming off good by interrupting each and every time Ryan speaks

gawd …. moderator lets joe make it up … cuts off Ryan, moves on again to give joe last word

Biden’s medicare plan “trust us, they are liars”

Problems growing abroad, but jobs aren’t growing here.


Haha, there is a hashtag: #LetRyanTalk

These guys want to brawl. Destroy their ideas, ridicule them, and redistribute wealth.

Bottom line:

Biden not as bad as feared but obviously trying too hard.

Ryan displays in depth knowledge of Afghanistan! B-slap on Biden!

Bidden is now stuck in a debate with the moderator!! Amazing, maybe Paul Ryan should moderate them. The moderator is SCHOOLING Biden. LMFAO

Too bad Ryan doesn’t have a mute button on Joe’s mic

This isn’t a debate. It’s a mutual admiration society discussion between Plugs Joe and FOB (Friend of Obama) Radatz.


    nordic_prince in reply to CalMark. | October 11, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Between Raddatz and Sawyer’s interview of Obama, the ABC girls really come across like high school cheerleaders trying to get in with the jocks, except Obama/Biden are anything but jocks. The Obama crush is beyond ridiculous; it’s disgusting.

I’m guessing this will not play well for Ryan

    foolishcop in reply to PhillyGuy. | October 11, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Just curious why you say that? I mean you’ve stated several times you don’t know how well this will play, I’m just trying to figure out why you think so. I happen to think Ryan looks quite good

    Dimsdale in reply to PhillyGuy. | October 11, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Well, certainly not in the liberal media. They probably already wrote their screed.

Rad data isn’t a moderator she wants to be part of the show, like the clowns at the circus.

Joe thinks he wins as long as he is loudest and last and interrupts facts. Do people wonder why no one can work with these guys?

Raddatz isn’t a moderator she wants to be part of the show, like the clowns at the circus.

Biden your facts are lies. Going on and on making no sense.

We are replacing Americans with Afghans who shoot at us?

Cringe inducing. Biden’s smirking, grinning, leering, patronizing, faux superiority DOESN’T PLAY on the Hot Medium of television. It’s absolutely rash producing. NO record to run on..? Disrespect the young whippersnapper. It ain’t playing, Pluggsy!!

Ryan is coming off as Very Smart and the ONLY Adult at the table. GOOOOOOOOOD Stuff. Whoever that grotesque blonde is, she’s simply looking like a clown for the Dems. You GO, Girly! It’s coming off–on this HOT Medium–as two embarrassing idiots against ONE FULL ADULT.

It will be interesting to see the clock … sure seems like Biden gets twice the time, half the facts. Especially if you count how often he talks over Ryan

Yeah. My questiion:

Does the “reset button” have a reset button?

Biden has Debate Tourette’s: he just can’t shut up and stop his facial ticks.

Yeah it’s historic, Ryan has to debate the moderator and his opponent

Go Ryan – get Biden!

Ooooo! The thoughtful, meditative Biden!

Yes – remind ppl that the Bill of Rights is under attack by this administration

I bet he’s going to build into a crescendo

theduchessofkitty | October 11, 2012 at 10:19 pm

Is this man lying about Catholic hospitals?

Catholic services, hospitals are being forced by Obamacare. You lie, Biden.

I wonder what biden’s fact check is going to look like

Of course she wants to go back to the abortion issue

Exactly Biden, the supreme court is important which is why Obama should not be reelected.

“Open minded” – yup, Joe, you know all about that – your brains fell out a long time ago

Liberal women in media are so lacking in logic.

SoCA Conservative Mom | October 11, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Has Ryan gotten the last word on any question?

Decorated soldier? Sure, Raddatz, you know one. How convenient. 47% doesn’t make any sense at this point in the debate.

They picked SCOTUS nominees with “open minds”?!?!?! Kagan? Sotomayor?

Isn’t a constitutionalist a true adherent to the specific constitutional role of the SCOTUS, i.e. apply the Constitution to laws that come before them?

Romney Ryan would oppose all abortion from conception? I thought that was the problem with Akin … (other than Akin’s stupid statements)

They could have at least said it would go to the states.

Obama’s has 3 1/2 to lift up the middle class. Biden, you lie.

Exactly – Obama is nothing but speeches. Go Ryan – hitting all the points successfully.

Ryan is playing whack a mole with Øbama now!

No, Joe, you don’t get “equal time” – you get MORE than your FAIR SHARE

Plugs did his job, he didn’t lose. I don’t know if the smirking will help or hurt.

strange debate…like a brawl

I didn’t know Biden, was such a cry baby. Doesn’t he know Raddatz is on his side. Ryan started off rough, but ended well. Biden started strong but ended petty, arrogant, and obnoxious.

Why did they bother with a coin toss? Biden should automatically go first because he’s so wunnerful


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I hate when Biden uses, my friend. He doesn’t mean it, so don’t use it.

Most abused phrase: “My friend”.

Biden wears a condom for a hat.

    nordic_prince in reply to Dimsdale. | October 11, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Too bad Biden didn’t wear a rubber over his head – it might have help to contain the garbage coming out of his mouth

not a brawl … an old drunk sounding guy, bellowing over his smarter opponent, claiming he knows everything. Ryan was way too polite.

Biden’s voice is getting ragged. His aggressive tone is taking its toll.

The one impression I’m left with is that I couldn’t always make sense of what Biden said but had no trouble with Ryan’s facts.

Oh, and Biden’s constant implication that Ryan is lying got old fast.

Paul Ryan consistently coming off as Adult and Hugely Intelligent. The Blonde Grimacing Bimbette & Crazy Uncle in the Attic vs. AN ADULT Problem Solver.

Raddatz was awful.

    janitor in reply to NewtCerto. | October 11, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    I thought some of her questions were good in that she touched upon weak points. What I did NOT like was that she then kept cutting off Ryan when he was answering them. So the good questions were more a platform soliciting alibi from Biden. Ryan got his points in anyway, and remained consistently pleasant.

Ryan did good. Calm, cool, collected, informative and patient. He’ll be a great vice-president.

Oh, good one, Paul! “We will not blame someone else for the next four years.” Nicely done.

OK well I have no idea. I thought that Biden would play better but Ryan closed strong.

Smirking Joe! The commentators are slamming Biden for his childish antics. Ryan “wasn’t allowed to answer”

Raddatz was predictably liberal, but slightly more restrained than I expected. Better than Ifill.

The comments from all the non-MSNBC pundits all focus on the smirking, sneering, and childish antics of Biden.

Biden was SNARKY and Vapid; Childish & Patronizing; No way to defend a catastrophe for a record…Just leer, head shake and sigh.

Ryan was ADULT. Calm, dignified, honorable and confident. NO sneering at Joe Bite-Me. Don’t know how he kept from the huge temptation of b’yotch slapping the grotesque blonde and the Batshit Crazy Uncle. Amazing. Great ADULT stuff from Paul.

I think the American public gets a clear choice … which guy they feel better out being one heartbeat away. Ryan showed real character and intelligence, Biden well?

One of the most difficult things in the world is to have a rational discussion with a pathological liar. Even if you have the facts at your fingertips; someone who lies as nimbly and fluently as Joe Biden can fight you to a draw.

People like Biden know how to seem SO convincing and reasonable under the spotlights, when they’re really vicious, psychotic fools.

There’s a reason why Old Nick is also known as “the Father of Lies.”

VetHusbandFather | October 12, 2012 at 1:03 am

Really like that Biden laughing ad. I hope they run it like crazy in the swing states over the next week. Most people probably didn’t watch the debate, that ad pretty much shows how it went.

If you believe no one is really listening to what’s being said, then wear a condescending grin on your face.

You’ve got to give him credit, because his face must be killing him. Finally, we found something Biden is actually good at.

Did anyone else notice on the first question how Biden indirectly threw the CIA under the bus by claiming there was no advanced intelligence? He did it twice on that first question. Biden was blameshifting to cover up the incompetence of the State Department whose management has been infested with the magical thinking of “If I say I love you, you won’t hurt me.”

They were warned many days in advance that something would happen on 9/11. There was no excuse for not beefing up security or even not having the Marine contingent on station.

Feckless and Incompetence is what Biden exuded. Bombast and mockery are not signs of leadership.