Okay, sure, I’ll fall for it and link to An October Surprise website
A reader writes:
Good morning! Any guesses as to what this referencing????
The tweets for the website (private to protect their sources) say the campaign knows about it and is scared. “It has the potential to change the election into a landslide.” This will come out right before the last debate on Monday and I would guess if it is truly something, it will shake the guilty one to the core (fingers crossed it is Obama).
I can’t see anti-Obama voters suddenly voting for him en masse after we have documented his illegal moves for the last 4 yrs (they would stay home if anything) but I could see some Obama voters seeing the light. Some, alas, will NEVER see the light even if he killed Hillary on the White House lawn in broad daylight by chewing off her head high on bath salts, as long as they get their freebies.
The link is to An October Suprise, which promises a game changing document release on October 22, just before the final debate:
One of your presidential candidates isn’t being honest with you. Stay tuned to find out which one it is.
The webite even has a countdown clock:
The game changer is being teased on Twitter with tweets like these:
‘This has the propensity to turn this election from a nail-biter into the biggest electoral landslide since 1984′ – our source
— October Surprise (@OctSurprise) October 15, 2012
At the debate tonight, one candidate might look exceptionally nervous. They already know what the #octsurprise is.
— October Surprise (@OctSurprise) October 16, 2012
Update 10-19-2012: In the An October Surprise hoax there was a truth.













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I looked at the “6 pages on buzzfeed” one of the pages looks like it could be a tax form but Tax forms wouldn’t have omitted lines save personal information like SS#, tax id, ETC…
That is clearly an official document by some kind of government be it local, state, or federal that has been severely censored for FOIA release.
I would say it could be anything.
I think it is tax return related information. The three biggest possibilities are (1) a contradiction of Romney’s claims about income tax amounts/rates paid; (2) a tax return showing that Romney took advantage of an amnesty for offshore accounts; or (3) documents purporting to show that Romney had some active management at Bain. #2 and #3 have been popular leftist/nutroots claims for a long time.
It is interesting to note that some have speculated that the 47% video was leaked so early in the race, so that Romney had time to deal with it and respond to it, because the Obama people have something worse to throw at Romney later. I don’t hold to this belief, but it’s an interesting theory.
Guess there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell they’ve got the tape the LA Times is hiding.
[…] Surprise? Posted on October 17, 2012 3:30 pm by Bill Quick » Okay, sure, I’ll fall for it and link to An October Surprise website – Le·… The link is to An October Suprise, which promises a game changing document release on October […]
I’ve ben wondering when and how Obama’s people are going to be publishing Romney’s tax returns to ramp up their class warfare strategy.
At first I posted a link here that said I thought it smelled like Romney tax stuff and questioned what happened to the extortion threat from several weeks ago. But then I actually looked at the documents that are watermarked/blacked out. I’m starting to think now that it’s related to Obama and that it’s one of three things: 1. his student loan applications/repayments; 2. his condominium/mortgage application (remember Breitbart mentioned the fairly pricey Chicago condo the Obamas bought years ago after Michelle’s violin-replete speech at the DNC?); or 3. stuff related to his original $125,000 Poseidon/Simon & Schuster literary contract in NYC that got cancelled for failure to deliver the manuscript.
This document => https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5Ry869CAAEbHEn.jpg:large definitely has the Commonwealth of Massachusetts shield in the left hand corner. The second document in this array http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2012/10/17/16/6-docs-25763-1350504119-8.jpg, where everything is redacted, most likely has the Massachusetts Department of Revenue medallion in the upper left corner. See this example here => http://www.mass.gov/dor/docs/dor/forms/corp10/355/sch-cg.pdf
These are Commonwealth of Massachusetts documents, I’m afraid.
On the other hand, Mitt Romney has been poked, prodded and vetted to the nth degree. I see pyrite ahead.
Twitter users say the site is hosted by a Chicago web design firm whose owner works with Discovery Channel. Animal Planet is running a “pet election” promotion, so this is likely a viral marketing campaign.
Okay, a reverse lookup of their IP (72.167.41.124) shows that they are co-hosted with pausetime.com, which appears to be a chicago-based website design. Looks like the server is in scottsdale, AZ.
http://www.ewhois.com/octsurprise.com/
http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-ip/, then plug in the IP. A whois for pausetime.com shows it’s registered by Mr. Maro (?)
http://www.whoismind.com/whois/pausetime.com.html
There you go, name and address.
[…] William Jacobson reported on this story, earlier today: The tweets for the website (private to protect their sources) say the campaign knows about it and is scared. “It has the potential to change the election into a landslide.” This will come out right before the last debate on Monday and I would guess if it is truly something, it will shake the guilty one to the core (fingers crossed it is Obama). […]
Well hidden site owner that’s for sure…. All that is listed is Domains by Proxy they hide domain owners….
My guess is, this will be the political equivalent of the mysterious hype surrounding the introduction of the….wait for it!…..can’t you feel the tension and excitement building!……….Segway.
We have some damn good geeks on here…. I am amazed… I am not kidding…. Bravo people…. And they say the major geeks are on the left…..
Hi,
The guys who created this “October Surprise” site are two hoaxters.
“Registered by Jeffrey Hopwood. Reverse IP search of the October Surprise site leads to http://pausetime.com run by his friend Anthony Maro. A Google search shows that this pair was responsible for some kind of hoax back in 2007.”
These guys are scrubbing as I write (I think Jeff just deleted his facebook profile):
http://openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race?MessageID=90127&offset=10
The cache:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OuPmeDNwHcoJ:openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race%3FMessageID%3D90127%26offset%3D10+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
I almost feel sorry for the poor Obama supporters who thought this might be their “Hail Mary”.
BENGHAZI-GATE: Did two heroic SEALs ruin Obama’s October Surprise?
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/benghazi-gate-did-two-heroic-seals-ruin-obamas-october-surprise-2503206.html
Also, if it is originating from Chicago, could it could be the conservative Hillbuzz gang (gay community)outing Obama?
http://hillbuzz.org/time-to-tell-everyone-you-know-about-jeremiah-wrights-down-low-club-barackobama-presobama-26407
Just a thought, if Romney is certain this potential October Surprise is about his tax records – maybe even other financial records – he should get his lawyers and accountants together and prepared to do one of two things:
(1) a court order to release them or quash them (if they would truly work – I doubt it); or
(2) put a package together that would be a competing narrative about his taxes records and financial history, and do a Friday night document dump.
I highly doubt the legal route would work in scenario 1 in either case. Scenario 2 is the better option. There are probably other scenarios that I can’t come up with.
Maybe Romney and his advisers already have a “prepackaged” document release strategy for his taxes and such in case this was going to happen. If advisers and staff are worth their salt, they would have researched what Obama and Co. are capable. A Friday night document dump spoils the timeline and narrative Axelrod and Obama want in the final stretch of the campaign if this was their “ace in the hole”.
The debate next week is about foreign policy, but in an instance of news of this magnitude, they would let both Romney and Obama address this. Then spend the rest of the night hammering Obama’s foreign policy disasters.
I have been researching this for a couple of hours. It appears many of the other posters have indeed “made” the guy who is behind this because he is furiously trying to delete stuff off of multiple web sites so as not to be outed. This of course only confirms it IS him because anyone *not* involved wouldn’t even know this was going on.
If it is related to Mitt and the blurred images represent official documents of some kind, I can’t imagine it having much impact. Anything related to draft deferments or tax records isn’t going to change the outcome of the election that dramatically. The people who hate him already assume he dodged the draft and cheated on his taxes.
Some people who are supporting him are actually doing so for selfish reasons. They may not like him much, but they figure he can turn the economy around so they are voting for him. Revelations of the kind I mentioned wouldn’t faze them much. People like me who DO like Mitt won’t vote for Obama under any circumstances.
Any other stuff related to Bain or offshore dealings is baked in the cake and won’t have much impact. As for Obama, there is a helluva lot more to speculate about. Student loan applications, documents related to his citizenship, proof of associations with bad actors, could be anything.
I do agree one of the forms appears to be tax related. Romney’s tax returns are enormous so I don’t know if six pages of material would even reveal enough to harm him. The guy behind this seems to be relating the material to something that was discussed or supposed to be discussed at the debate. I am not sure where that leads.
The Twitter feed may indicate the guy who was mentioned on this thread was merely the web developer, not one of the major players in this. Of course birds of a feather on that one. If the developer is a lefty OWS type, the main man probably would be too. I am leaning toward believing this is either pure BS or a guy who believes he has something big that in reality isn’t much.
From the OctSurprise Twitter feed:
First Hint: It will directly, explicitly and irrefutably contradict public statements.
“Public statements” sounds more like something the administration (or Obama) has been putting out. Mitt has made “public statements” of a sort but not so much of the kind that documentary evidence would refute.
He just hasn’t been specific enough on matters relating to his personal life, tenure as governor or head of Bain to really burn him this way. Perhaps something related to him being involved in Bain beyond when he said he was but hell, he has already been accused of that anyway. Same thing with his taxes and the draft.
Obama on the other hand has made many definitive public statements regarding a whole host of matters. Seems that it would be easier to dig up something on him.
Another statement from the Twitter feed:
“This has the propensity to turn this election from a nail-biter into the biggest electoral landslide since 1984 – our source”
Why 1984? Reagan won by a landslide in 84 so does that tip it toward being about Obama? Of course Reagan was the incumbent in that election too so that might indicate it is related to Mitt.
@Octsurprise just dropped 3d fact: “mentioned in both VP debate and second presidential debate.” Libya/Benghazi was mentioned in both first and second debates. I’m now wondering if it IS Benghazi/Libya documents that will devastate Obama. Perhaps a document leak by Hilary who’s doing who knows what in Lima, Peru (filming the Bridge Over San Luis Rey?)
I have gazed into my crystal ball and see that the Intel community has had their fill of being called inept, stupid, lying, bumblers and are going to release some very damning info on Libya attack etc.
At this point, I’m thinking it’s related to Bain. If that’s the case, all it takes is *one* disgruntled employee and Axelrod’s Chicago strategy to collude in nasty subterfuge.
The latest “hint” states it relates to something mentioned at both the VP and second debate. I am concerned it will be something negative pertaining to Mitt’s wealth/financial background, too. One of the Twitter followers was a co-worker, ardent Obama supporter; can’t imagine anything from Chicago being positive for Romney.
If it has anything to do with Romney not paying taxes in one year or another, it won’t alter the race one bit. That is baked into the cake. The people that care about that are already against him. 6 pages of documents wouldn’t be enough to even cover the scope of Mitt’s returns, they probably run into the 100’s of pages every year.
Not to mention they would have to be obtained through illegal means and the 2 guys who we already know are involved would be subjecting themselves to some serious legal problems. I don’t think they have the balls for that.
I am leaning toward it being a hoax at this point given they did one before. If they do work for Discovery, at some point their employer is going to frown on this sort of thing. Finally, I just don’t believe that anyone who had a major smoking gun that would truly alter the election outcome would come to these dorks to put it out. There are so many other outlets that would could be used that would have a far greater impact. They are trying to generate attention to themselves and are having a good laugh at the same time.
I had sent a video as a joke back in 2007 about Obama, and was put on an email list from moveon.org. as a result. I received this email recently, read about the printer. Wonder if this has anything to do with this. (I’m in the chgo area)
Subject: Joe-mentum
With the presidential race neck-and-neck, we need a stellar voter turnout boost to get progressives to the polls. Well, guess what! We’ve got a method so effective we can’t even give all the details away—and we’ve got an unexpected, one-day opportunity to ramp it up. Can you chip in?
Chip in $5
Dear MoveOn member,
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2. “Swing state polls echo national trend: Mitt Romney on the rise,” The Christian Science Monitor, October 11, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282439&id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&t=6
Here’s the original email where we described this amazing breakthrough:
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We’ve invented a breakthrough new technique for turning out HUGE numbers of progressive voters. It’s been tested with 170,000 voters—and we got the most exciting results in MoveOn’s history! We want to roll it out nationwide to save the Senate, win back the House, and hold on to the White House.
WOW! At 5 PM on Friday, a major partner offered to match every dollar donated, up to $500,000. So you’ll now get twice the bang for your buck! Can you chip in?
Chip in $5
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by the way, I’m from chgo and very pro Romney, along with everyone I know
The Daily Caller has a piece on this today, suggesting that users of Fark have uncovered the owners of the site and that it was planned as a giant “Rickroll”.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/octsuprise-com-is-just-one-big-rick-roll-say-farkers/
#1. If they had some information that would turn the election and are using moveon.org lists, why would moveon.org or soros not pay for the whole shebang? This sounds like a con. I wonder if these guys were kicked out of Nigeria? Maybe for not ponying up enough bribes or their fair share to officials? BTW, didn’t we read a week or so ago that these scams would crop up supposedly supporting both sides.
Having been outed by internet sleuths at FARK, the pranksters detonated the RickRoll last night: http://www.octsurprise.com . [Safe.]
Their comments: “Sorry folks. Did NOT expect this level of interest. Apologies! Jokes! Vote! Sorry for the most predictable rick roll ever.”