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Foreign Policy Presidential Debate Night

Foreign Policy Presidential Debate Night

Starts at 9 p.m. Eastern.

This should be fun.  Obama has to attack Romney, he just has to.  The momentum is going Romney’s way.  A draw, nothing changes result is big for Romney.

In theory this debate has the least risk for Romey, but I think that theory is wrong.  Obama can hide behind classified information and so on, and pretend he knows more than he knows.

This is just an open thread for people to make their feelings known. I’m not going to “live blog” it.

And at the end, there will be an assessment.

So have at it.


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Ok he might be catching fire a little bit. Obama just blew it with the condescending submarine comments! LOL

nordic_prince | October 22, 2012 at 9:46 pm

“Israel is a true friend” yet he can’t stand Bibi, refuses to talk/meet with him. liar liar liar liar liar

Dinosaur Bob keeps looking at Obama with a pleasant expression, then occasionally glances at Romney as though he’s forcing himself to look at something awful.

Obama commits to stand with Israel? How credible is that?

And that Iran will not get a nuclear weapon???

Making me think Romney wants to coast on the gains he has made in the past week’s polls, bolstered by micro-targeting in swing states during the remainder of the race. If that is what he is doing that is quite ballsy. Perhaps he has been advised the the remaining undecideds are hypersensitive to conflict, so he is not taking the gloves off, to preserve the opportunity to reach them. I don’t like it.

I get sick of democrats telling me we are reckless and war mongers the next time a liberal starting running off at the mouth about that run this by them

The civil war was started by democrats in the South angry at the election of the very first Republican president a guy named Lincoln ….they first fled the union ( fleebaggers )and then started the civil war …all over their right to keep the right to own black men women and children

WW I ….democrat president

WW II ….a democrat president

Korea ….democrat president

Vietnam ….first in under truman all in under kennedy and johnston

The only time nukes were used against humans was by a democrat ….twice and against civilian populations

the only time in American history that we had concentration camps was under FDR with special order 9066 when thousands of American citizens were imprisoned because of their race

Good answer on Iran.

Still, I think Romney is giving Obama too much leeway.

romney strong on iran. treat them like south africa. no b.s. like obama spouted.

Shieffer: “Let me ask both of you. President Obama, now please use 2/3 of the time with your rambling lies and untrue attacks.”

nordic_prince | October 22, 2012 at 9:51 pm

“abide by UN resolutions” – newsflash, Obama: the UN is a joke, no one believes that League-of-Nations2.0 failure

i don’t think schieffer will bring up benghazi. they talked libya, romney didnt raise it. schieffer won’t. he’s in COA, aka cover obama’s ass, mode.

what a snotty little bitch obama is. he’s worse than a girl. ghey.

DINORightMarie | October 22, 2012 at 9:52 pm

Obama sounds like he is blowing smoke – he sure is lying about what he had done, how fast, etc.

ooooh. Good layout of bobo issues, inc. apology tours.

Oh, wow!

“Apology tour,” “Daylight with Israel,” “weakness.”

“Show strength from the very beginning.”

Go get ‘im Mitt.

nordic_prince | October 22, 2012 at 9:55 pm

Obama, nothing you’ve said all night long is true.

Romney hitting all the buttons on Obama and Iran showing how Obama’s weakness has produced Iran’s intransigence and nuclear arms capability.

theduchessofkitty | October 22, 2012 at 9:55 pm

“Apology tours”

“That’s not true, that’s not true!…”


Are you kidding me, Obama, we saw you apologize on television and you bowed to foreign leaders to boot. You lie.

DINORightMarie | October 22, 2012 at 9:56 pm

When will Romney call Obama a liar?!

This is ridiculous!! The record is clear – Obama is LYING through his teeth.

Yeah. Let us – We the People! – decide!

Bob let me just respond. Bob never lets Romney do that.

Big lie: Obama says he’s never apologized.

Bobo voice going up decibel or so. Higher frequency. And he went to Yad Vashem, ad kids, and etc. How he’s used his travels. Desperate replies.

Obama on defense. I like it. It makes Obama look weak these past 4 years.

nordic_prince | October 22, 2012 at 9:58 pm

Obama can’t point to anything he’s done in this term to help Israel, only blathers about what he did as a candidate FOUR YEARS AGO

Obama has been downhill since the “bayonet” remarks. Romney has him on the ropes.

“When I went to Israel as a Candidate.”

“Who’s going to be credible to all parties involved.”‘

“Look at my record and feel confident.”

Interrupts Romney, then starts obfuscating. Obama clearly ticked off. Not pretty.

Of course, Schieffer doesn’t give Romney a chance to respond.

Yes restate the chaos in the Middle East because of Obama. Yes, Mitt, go!

Good answer about hypotheticals from Mitt. Romney has kept pretty cool and measured. Obama has not.

The man who’s borrowing money from the Chinese, who are linked to the Iranians, is knocking Romney for his investment in a company with links to Iran?

The world was divided when Obama came into office, says he, and he seems to think that the world has united as a result of him? What did he smoke before he went to the debate?

Now Obama trying to pass off his apology tour as a trip? Romney nailed Obama on the apology tour. Obama is BS-ing on Israel cuz after that visit he put daylight between the USA and Israel, attacked Israel on the nuts in Judea and Samaria and Gaza, and blamed Israel for everything he can. Worse, he has insulted Netanyahu. Obama is mad that Romney called him on the apology tour.

Exactly – America receding because of Obama.

conservativegram | October 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm

That is not an undecided voter audience. Anybody else watching

Obama is a pathetic, lying little dip$#!+

OK, Romney is landing haymakers now.

Obama sounds snarky and condescending.

Obama has screwed up so much – he’s having difficulty lying trying to cover it up. He doesn’t even know where to begin, the way he stammers.

    CalMark in reply to NewtCerto. | October 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Obama seems lost.

    Anyone notice the pink “Breast Cancer Awareness” rubber bracelet Obama is wearing?

    How un-presidential. Talk about shameless pandering and lack of dignity.

You waited for several months before Osama was killed, Obama, you lie.

ah yes—-here we are —-Pockistan again.

Oooo… President “Gutsy call” just showed up.

Let’s hope Romney hits him over the head with it.

Is that why you made 9-11 a day of service, Obama, instead of a day of remembrance?

Actually, this is rather fun. I have laughed a number of times at bobo’s blather and lies, so blatant they are funny

Yeah, Bob, you won’t catch Romney up with equal time & America knows it. Media trust by the public is at 8%.

Obama’s back to Osama..!! Desperate, Desperate, Silly & Weak. Now, a phone call to a daughter from a Dad in the Twin Towers..!! I SHIITE You NOT!! Yep, Obambi, what we needed was YOU on 9-11-2001..! ROTF’ingFLMF’ingAO..!

Schieffer doesn’t look dignified anymore. He looks like the power-hungry evil old man he’s been for a long time.

romney made his protest of bob’s bias official.

Bobo looks tired—poor thing Romney has worn him out and there’s still 25 minutes to go…

You did visit Pakistan in the 80s Obama.

There’s no reason why Americans should die when the US is perfectly capable of protecting its diplomats, dumb@$$

geez, avoiding foreign policy again – obvious Obama can’t handle it

Obama is filibustering and Romney ,Shiefer are allowing it. It is looking like a prevent defense strategy. Romney is getting better but he is not going for the gold. I suspect many have already tuned out. To many lies are going unchallenged.

Obama has tied our soldiers ability to fight, which explains the rise in deaths. Fighting with you hand tied behind your back is not a way to win. Obama doesn’t want us to win.

Obama must be in trouble.

Schieffer is doing an AWFUL lot of talking for a “moderator.”

Obama is telegraphing that he doesn’t want to be bothered with this debate….

Snooze-fest. Lots of “in the weeds” stuff about Pakistan.

Schieffer is doing his job by deflecting from Obama’s weaknesses, Obama is doing his job by lying his head off.

Romney is blowing it, in my opinion. He could and should deliver a knockout punch. I think the Candy Incident has made him timid.

Romney just CRUSHED Obama on his record for the past 4 years. It was so stunning that the “Undecideds” couldn’t even bring themselves to approve Obama’s statements about what he had done.

“free market system that works” – just like you’re trying to destroy here?

I wish Ahmad Shah Massoud wasn’t murdered. He hated the taliban and loved President Reagan. He could’ve led Afghanistan.

Wait a minute, really, did Obama say, me? Yes, you did everything by yourself, Obama, such a sick ridiculous narcissist.

Obama lives in the world of “me.” Idiot.

Voice of bobo is getting so loud I have to turn down the tv. B.S. on China paying by the rules from bobo.

OMG. “We can work with China…They want peace and stability.”

The heck they do. They want to replace us as the sole superpower.

Exactly Mitt – China has more to lose in a trade war than we do. Nice gesture, Mitt!

theduchessofkitty | October 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm

“What works for businesses is not government intervention…”


Yes, Obama, you bet on green jobs and we lost. Idiot.

Whenever I hear Obama attempt to discuss numbers I tune out. He’s never run a damn thing. He has no credibility.

Some heavy hits about China stealing from the U.S.

Too bad it’s when everyone has tuned out to watch MNF.

If things are so good where are the jobs then Obama?

You did say Hawaii was in Asia. Idiot.

Obama’s touting himself as WAAAAAAY Tough on those danged Chinese. Are you f’ing kidding, Your Majesty??!!

Now, Mitt’s doing some s’plaining the FACTS on China. Nice stuff. Confident. Solution oriented. How’s cutting the snot out of our Military going to make us Gooood with the Peoples Republic?!?!

Obambi is huffing & puffing about Bad Mitt’s overseas holdings…! Feckless, shallow, silly, huffy-puffy…!

Ok. Obama just HORRIBLY mangled the tax issue. I may have to finally write a full blog post on why removing the “triple-tax” on overseas profits would be ENTIRELY beneficial to the United States and would free up $10 TRILLION dollars of financial leverage to return to the United States.

Smile just like Biden. Keep smiling, Obama. You lie. Idiot.

Yes, Obama. Romney keeps on trying to tell the truth. Sorry if it bugs you. Idiot.

What a snotty little GIRL Obama is!

Keeps trying to interrupt Romney, finally succeeds, goes snarky.

Obama smiles like a James Bond villain.

Obama the only people you champion are unions and more govt workers.

Line of the night:

“Mr. President, I’m still speaking.”

Obliterate Obama with his poor results as president, go Mitt go!

theduchessofkitty | October 22, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Boom! Boom! Boom!

More people on food stamps.

Trillions more in debt.

More people unemployed than ever before.

Boom! Boom! Boom!

Exactly, teachers are not hired by the government. I wish that lie was put to rest.

theduchessofkitty | October 22, 2012 at 10:30 pm

Interrupting Romney once again, as always…

When will he ever learn? Never, I guess…

Romney gets the last word. My guess is that Romney can seal it right hear and now with a strong response.

Well, Romney had his moments. Not enough of them. He chickened out on too many things.

OTH, Obama often looked petty, snarky, and angry, like a spoiled child who’s never been told that he’s anything but uber-awesome.

Yes, after these three debates I have come solidify that you are more of an idiot I always thought you were Obama.

since when is education a foreign policy item? idi0t

Romney hit a solid knockout with his last restatement of Obama’s record, the sympathetic look on his face as he looked in Obama’s eyes and said it’s just not worked and the past four years have been so hard.

No Benghazi?

You are destroying our oil and gas production – sadly, unemployment, rising fuel and energy prices exemplify your destruction, Obama.

You lost tonight, Obama. You’ll lose this election.

President Romney on Nov. 6, 2012.

theduchessofkitty | October 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm

Mitt closing. Two paths. Two choices.


More GOOOOOD, knowledgable economic ammo from Mitt. Obambi defending gov’t meddling in American business, blah-blah-blah….Bush…BOOOOOSH…Booooolshiiiiite…! More BOOOOOSH…Romney gonna be ALL Boooosh Redue-due…Weak, Dishonest…Ohhhh, here we go…Increase oil and gas production(Cannot make this s*** up..!!)…Bullshiiite..!

Now, Mitt’s giving it back to him with facts, figures, economics, basics and how much WORSE Off America is the last 4-years. PRIVATE Enterprise, know how. Steadiness, ADULT and on-fire with American enterprise unleashed..!

America as the hope of the earth. Nice ending, President Romney.

“nation building here at home” newsspeak for “destroying America as we know it,” or “fundamentally transforming” America ~

James Carvile just tried to call this debate a “rout” for Romney. Well we know what his talking point was.

David Gergin is saying that Obama “dominated” the center of the debate? What drugs was he taking and what debate was he watching?

    Romney, routed? I think Romney looked and sounded more presidential, certainly. He left too many things on the table, however.

    As for Obama…he looked shrill and snarky. We’ll see if his lies and smarminess still work.

    1. Instant feeback, Obama wins debate 70-30, or similar.
    2. (Per Rush Limbaugh): Tomorrow’s Gallup, R 49 O 47, O on the comeback trail!!!

JackRussellTerrierist | October 22, 2012 at 10:41 pm

R finished very strong after finally getting his sea legs about 1/2 way in. He was intermittently rocky and hesitant up to that point.

Starting at about 9:45, with the deeper discussion on Iran, R starting hitting on 6 cylinders and by the time he finished that section, he was hitting on all 8 with his condemnation about the apology tour. After that, he simply left O IN THE DUST – BLEW HIS DOORS OFF!!

Nicely done, Governor. 🙂

JackRussellTerrierist | October 22, 2012 at 10:44 pm

o sneering, shaken, trying to rattle R with the snarky smiling, made a poor finish like the thin-skinned sore loser bully that he is, while R soared with the eagles.

R laid o down for the count with his last set of remarks before the closing remarks.


Jack The Ripper | October 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm

Luntz’s focus group is getting ANIMATED.

Check it out.

Jack The Ripper | October 22, 2012 at 11:09 pm

Luntz just admonished the group to calm down: “We are on live TV and I have lost control.”

Jack The Ripper | October 22, 2012 at 11:10 pm

Stout blonde woman on front row to the right (stage left) was the only one to raise her hand on the most important issue being foreign policy vs. economy, after other audience members made it clear that Romney is stronger on economics.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Jack The Ripper. | October 23, 2012 at 12:25 am

    That focus group was the biggest pack of dunces Luntz has ever had. Sometimes he has a decent group with firing brain cells. These folks……..not so much.

JackRussellTerrierist | October 23, 2012 at 12:27 am

o was NOT smiling when he gave Manchelle the obligatory end-of-debate hug.

Henry Hawkins | October 23, 2012 at 1:20 am

I almost felt sorry for Obama when he rebutted Romney’s charge of a lack ofleadership on the ongoing Syrian massacre by pointing out, “I started the Friends of Syria! And, and.. humanitarian aid!” You’re the freaking president of the most powerful nation on Earth. You just admitted failure by such pale, minuscule evidence of your ‘leadership’.

Look, the debates are over and Romney has established himself as a viable choice over Obama, no matter the presidential milieu in question – economy, entitlements, defense, national security, tax reform, foreign policy. Romney killed in the first debate (likely literally killed – if he wins in November, that first debate will go down in history, a much-studied point in American history in future poli-sci labs).

Romney entered tonight’s debate on a steady upswing, adding a point or two to his polled (presumed, guessed at) lead every 3-4 days, widening the gap in all demographics and panicking the Obama team. Obama had to at least stop the Romney upswing, and hopefully begin his own. Mission failure, Bucko. He did neither.

End result of three debates: Romney not only made viable, but is actually in the lead and growing. Obama did not dent him. Obama’s net debate earnings are a loss of 5 polling points. There is nothing formal occurring between now and Nov 6th. Obama has to create a venue and create a pathway to a quick turnaround. How and what? Exactly.

Expect Chicago politics now. By Friday we’ll know what dirty tricks the Obama team is capable of. It’ll have to be a lie, and it’ll have to be a lie that fools enough people till Nov 6 to help Obama, one that can’t be readily disproved and sticks in the dumber, er, lower info independent minds.

Two weeks out and the debates over, I have this thing at Romney 53% / Obama 47%.