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Will God still be on Dems side if Hurricane Isaac buries New Orleans?

Will God still be on Dems side if Hurricane Isaac buries New Orleans?

Can I call ’em or what?

As news broke that a possible hurricane might disrupt the Republican National Convention, I predicted that Democrats would become religious quickly.

Not religious in terms of religion, but in terms of proclaiming that God was on their side for disrupting the RNC:

Sure enough, former Michigan Governor and now left-coast flame thrower Jennifer Granholm has proclaimed that God is on the Democrats’ side (via John Nolte):

Seven hours later, after people called her out on it, Granholm said she was just kidding.

The only problem with Granholm’s jest in which there was truth is that the projected path of Isaac may cause a little disruption to the RNC, but it is looking more like Katrina, Part 2:

Does Granholm still feel that God is on Democrats’ side?


[Obligatory link to Dylan/Baez version of With God on Our Side here]


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Two points…

1. “Just kidding” is the ultimate exercise in passive-aggressive behavior

2. So long as Isaac hits any part of the Gulf Coast, Collectivist elitists will be gloating, since we are all Southerners down here (ergo, we deserve it). Oh, and it will shut down oil production for a little while in the Gulf.

    1. Granholm may not be completely serious, but she isn’t kidding either: she is dog-whistling. By God, she means Gaia.

    Gaia is angrier at the Gulf oil industry than at the Republicans in Tampa.

    Gaia is merciful and sending rain to the Midwest.

    2. My thoughts are with those in the path of the storm.

    Cassandra Lite in reply to Ragspierre. | August 26, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Poor New Orleans. Its democratic politicians were just getting it back to the same level of unemployment and incompetence as before Katrina.

    In a bizarrely low-key press conference that seemed more focused on calming residents’ “anxiety” and vaguely telling them to “be prepared” (and then making of a series of mundane announcements about municipal matters like trash collection and parking restrictions) than on advising them to take specific, concrete steps commensurate to the risk of a possibly major hurricane potentially making a direct hit on America’s most hurricane-vulnerable city starting in about 48 hours, New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu did his best Ray Nagin impression Sunday, announcing a no-evacuation, “shelter in place” plan that suggests a stunning level of confidence that a worst-case scenario won’t happen, at a time when it remains, meteorologically speaking, very much in play.

    You can see that he has learned from the best mayor Chocolate City ever had.

Republicans are willing to abort a convention.

Democrats are willing to abort a baby.

You choose.

    creeper in reply to Anchovy. | August 26, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    “Liked” by a firm believer in a woman’s right to make decisions about her own body. Point well made, Anchovy.

Looks like a hurricane, Governor. Better zip up that hoodie.

You’re looking at it all wrong.

As Popular Mechanics reported after Katrina, “In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest–and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm’s landfall.”

PM also said, “While the press focused on FEMA’s shortcomings, this broad array of local, state and national responders pulled off an extraordinary success–especially given the huge area devastated by the storm. Computer simulations of a Katrina-strength hurricane had estimated a worst-case-scenario death toll of more than 60,000 people in Louisiana. The actual number was 1077 in that state.”

Had Obama been in office during Katrina, the MSM would have been congratulating him and his administration for great work during a very difficult time. As it is, Isaac will cause much less damage, and yet their comparisons will only be favorable.

    The Democrat news media are a collective bunch of outrageous liars and propagandists.

    How’s this for irony, re a rag calling itself the ‘New York Times:’
    “The executive editor of the New York Times is disputing an accusation of liberal bias made by her very own public editor, Arthur Brisbane. In his final column for the Times, Brisbane wrote that his fellow staffers “share a kind of political and cultural progressivism” that “virtually bleeds through the fabric of The Times.” Brisbane even argued that Times reporters approached some liberal issues, like gay marriage and the Occupy movement, “more like causes than news subjects.”

    Ragspierre in reply to RandyB1. | August 26, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Let it also be remembered that PRIVATE ENTERPRISE (cf, Wal-Mart) had BOTH materiel and transport on the road WAITING for permission to enter NOLA with relief immediately behind the storm.

      Browndog in reply to Ragspierre. | August 26, 2012 at 3:13 pm

      Let it also be remembered that the CHRISTIAN charity Salvation Army was busy handing out hot meals and water a week before the quasi-GOVERNMENT charity Red Cross deemed it “safe” to enter the city.

        Let it finally be remembered this contrived moron enough of us elected president has cited Chicago (19 people shot this weekend alone) and Communist China (not too great at natural disaster rescues) as examples of how to run a government.

        Again: a contrived moron.

    Alan K. Henderson in reply to RandyB1. | August 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    What people who dont’ live in Gulf Coast states don’t know is that FEMA always shows up late. It’s not a first-responder. It helps to pick up the pieces in the aftermath of the aftermath.

People have already died from this Hurricane, 4 in Haiti, and dems think this is something to joke about?

Thanks dems for showing ex-dems what scum you people truly are. I used to think Repubs were the lunatic ones, it seems now dems are, especially Obot dems.

I agree with Alex, with the addition that if it were a democrat party convention, some loose- lipped Republican probably would have said something similar. To me this just points out the problem with the “establishment” of both parties.

Outrageous hypocrites, but we know that.

They also try to hide behind the First Amendment, while at the same time trying to destroy the First Amendment rights of their opponents.

Take a look at this Occupy Philadelphia Facebook page set up by a white Elizabeth Warren-clone, urging support for the two “brave” (!) cop-killers (these are black men who shot a black cop on his way home from work):

These are deranged people. They need to be sat on, and hard.

“Well, it means that the gods are favoring Democrats. Not that we wish any kind of difficulty in terms of the weather. But you know you take the bitter with the sweet. And if you can get a little sweetness without manufacturing it, that’s pretty good.”
– Danny Davis (Deemocrat, IL)

    creeper in reply to Ragspierre. | August 26, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    And, of course, being from Illinois, Mr. Davis would be an expert in hurricanes.

    Seriously, Dems, you have got to STFU. You’re embarrassing yourselves.

BTW, found a new web-site that could be cool…

A major difference is that this year, they do have a competent governor in Bobby Jindal. Can’t do anything about the Mayor of New Orlean.

“Isaac may cause a little disruption to the RNC, but it is looking more like Katrina, Part 2”

Granholm: “These assholes always get away.”

Pretty pathetic for a political personality to play ther “God” card only when it involves putting others in some dangerous path.
Most of us know better than to actually hit “enter” when we have errant thoughts. And we know better than to wish ill health or financial ruin on anyone.
How unfortunate this unhealthy woman feels the need to express her animosity in a public way.
I might want her to rot in hell for her remarks but I wouldnt say so in public.
Whoops. Just kidding.

    FX Phillips in reply to jimzinsocal. | August 26, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    C’mon jimzinsocal have a heart.

    She was so happy to actually HAVE A THOUGHT that she wanted to share it with everyone.

    Judging by the shape she left Michigan in this thought may have been a first for for her.

Seems to me right now, sitting here in the dark and rain, that Isaac is actually staring at Chicago while doing his best to rain out the OWS camper would-be protesters in and around Tampa.

So, if Isaac hits New Orleans, will Obama be accused of hating black people? And if it hits Florida, will Obama be accused of hating white retirees?

    Alan K. Henderson in reply to JP. | August 27, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    I recall seeing one what-if regarding Nagin’s school buses that (ahem) didn’t hold water: the notion that they could have been used on multiple trips. Take it from someone who lived within a couple of miles of the Gulf of Mexico for 27 years – hurricane evacuation is a one-way trip. There are no round trips.

    (I wonder what the cost of repairing the schoolbuses’ water damage was…)

    Every Gulf Coast mayor should have contingency plans for using every available city vehicle for hurricane evac.

    Nagin and Landrieu weren’t Boston transplants. They were born in New Orleans. They grew up with the annual ritual of hurricane preparedness. They’re old enough to remember the paper grocery bags with hurricane-tracking charts printed on them. Not to mention Hurricanes Betsy (1965) and Camille (1969). How in the hell did they get so lazy when the Big One was zeroing in on the Mississippi delta?

If the trajectory holds, ‘ol Isaac should bring welcome relief to the drought stricken mid-west.


    OcTEApi in reply to Browndog. | August 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    El Niño to bring cooler, wetter winter

    “Scientists have learned El Niño and its counterpart, La Niña, affect weather patterns in the U.S.”

    I ran into two global warming nutbags yesterday, both said that the US drought was due to climate change.

    One of them I had an in depth conversation with over a few beers and tried to convince them that water that’s evaporated in the US just might be responsible for the sever snow and rainfall that Europe has experienced in the last couple years.

    Gravity… is hard.

theduchessofkitty | August 26, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Remember what happened in 2008 when a hurricane was going to hit Louisiana just in time for the GOP convention in Minnesota?

What did the GOP do?

Commanded by Cindy McCain and Laura Bush, the first day of the convention became a hurricane relief marathon, raising funds for all the potential victims of the hurricane.

It’s obvious to me that Gov. Jindal is going to be quite busy this week, just as he was in 2008. And Gov. Scott as well. And don’t doubt the governors of Mississippi and Alabama will be busy, too.

This should not be a loss for the GOP, but an opportunity. If they have to recess for the day, why not make it a hurricane relief marathon like in 2008? Heck, why not make the first day of every future GOP convention a hurricane relief marathon?

It will show the nation what statistics have already shown: that people in Republican-dominated states give more to charity than those in Democrat-dominated states.

It will also show that GOP Governors can get things done and care for the best interests of the people in their states.

I fail to see how a group of people that don’t believe in God can say God’s wrath is being visited on anyone ….hmmmm …. O.K. …let me revise that just a tad ….it could be they think obama is doing it which would satisfy their God wrath thingy

    Alan K. Henderson in reply to Aggie95. | August 27, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    That the forces of nature went against a Japanese nuclear plant and not a North Korean one is reason enough to refrain from “wrath of God” speculation.

    Jesus himself warned folks against that sort of thing. For those of you who brought your Bibles, turn to Luke 13:

    1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.
    2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way?
    3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
    4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem?
    5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”

    Jesus’ response implies that some in the audience thought that the punishment of the Galileans was a sign of divine wrath (given that Galilee was a hotbed of sedition, and that Pilate was personally involved in this case, the charge was likely insurgency), but it never occurred to them to apply the same logic to a building collapse. Jesus also warns about wrath the crowd ISN”T watching out for, but that’s another story…

    Best to hold off on “wrath of God” speculation unless cherubim and seraphim show up at the disaster site.

I’ll be honest, I’ve made this joke myself before, albeit when it referred to Pat Robertson’s plane crash. It’s a response to the religious right’s tendency to proclaim any disaster is God’s punishment for allowing atheists or social liberalism in our country. As an atheist, when I make the joke, the point isn’t that I actually think God is mad at the religious right or mad at one particular segment of the population, the point is to call out the hypocrisy of claiming tragic events that hurt people you don’t like are divinely inspired and tragic events that hurt people you like are just random.

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I should have given the link to the Popular Mechanics analysis on Katrina where they say: “While the press focused on FEMA’s shortcomings, this broad array of local, state and national responders pulled off an extraordinary success–especially given the huge area devastated by the storm.”

Here it is:

Just imagine how the MSM would have played out Katrina if Obama had been in office. Even if the results on the ground had been every bit as devastating, they’d have made it look quite a bit different.

Then, seven hours later, Rep. Granholm posts “all kidding aside, hope ppl of Florida are ready for Isaac and seek shelter to stay safe.” Seven hours to remember, oops!, there’s people in the hurricane’s path.

You stay classy, Congresswoman.

    creeper in reply to punfundit. | August 26, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    S’funny. For over forty years I labored under the impression that Democrats were touchy-feely, caring people. Then they pushed me too far and nominated the Pretender-in-Chief. When I slipped timidly into Republican party headquarters to volunteer for Sarah Pa…er, John McCain I was stunned to find collection containers for several local charities in the coffee room. Those “rich” Republicans I’d been told to hate for so many years turned out to be factory workers and nurses and accountants (and yes, a few teachers) who love not only their country but other people as well.

    Those horrible, hateful, greedy Republicans welcomed me with open arms, and smiles even though they knew they would lose. In all the years I worked for Dems I don’t think I can recall one of them ever smiling, much less cracking a joke.

    Destroying a country is serious business.

See how the Republicans hate New Orleans! First Bush attacked them with a hurricane and now Romney! The Republicans want to put people in chains and then drown them.

The official Dim-o-crat response.

It’s been said the greatest trick the Devil every played was convincing people he did not exist.

Not true. His greatest trick is proving to be ‘Barack Obama.’ (Satan’s second greatest trick was his posting of a used car radio on ebay, claiming it was ‘new’ when it was actually ‘used,’ and winning the customer service dispute.)

TeaPartyPatriot4ever | August 26, 2012 at 10:28 pm

Using the weather for political fodder, besides being ludicrous, is fool talk.

An emotional appeal from the people of a selective reality.

As I understand it, God defers to individual dignity. Our judgement awaits us in the post-mortem. Meanwhile, there is the natural order and evolutionary principles. That order is non-partisan. The latter, however, are self-fulfilling. We should probably reject what the Democrats are selling. Their inability to distinguish between the divine and natural order is not in anyone’s best interests.

It is like a nazi general asking rhetorically after the D-Day invasion, “Whose side is G-d on?”

Will Mitch Landrieu pull a Ray Nagin? All I want to know given Landrieu’s weak leadership as mayor of NO is will FNC or CNN be the first network to broadcast the next set of pictures of city and school buses stuck in flooded parking lots?

Current NHC forecasts show a direct hit on NO by a strengthening hurricane Issac:

The question is not if God is on their side, but how many foolish leaders will impede the necessary evacuation that should be started in any event. There will always be those who believe they can ride it out, at least have the others move in the proper direction away from the oncoming storm. IF this were Tampa or Pensacola, those mayors would have already called for an evacuation to begin.

Next question, does Governor Jindal have the authority to overrule an incompetent mayor?

Alan K. Henderson | August 27, 2012 at 5:00 pm

If Jindal were still a Hindu, would anyone blame a major Louisiana hurricane on Shiva?

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