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Does the RNC think we’re a nation of Cubs fans?

Does the RNC think we’re a nation of Cubs fans?

The RNC is starting to treat conservatives the way the Chicago Cubs treats its fans.

Long-suffering Cubs fans are sometimes referred to as the most loyal fans in baseball. Without a World Series win since 1908, and around 83% attendance rate, we are the “lovable losers” who keep giving management another chance.

The Cubs know what we want, don’t give it to us, and yet the “lovable losers” return year after year hoping that “this will be the year.” Renovate some stadium bathrooms and add bison dogs and we’ll be swayed into giving them more slack.

Well this won’t be the year the RNC “gets it,” which they solidified yesterday with the announcement that Senator John McCain is one of seven “headliner” convention speakers.

From the Tampa Bay Times:

The keynote speaker and others will be named closer to the Aug. 27-30 event, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus said in announcing the headliners, whom he called “some of our party’s brightest stars, who have governed and led effectively and admirably in their respective roles.”

“Ours will be a world-class convention, worthy of the next president of the United States, and these speakers — and those that will be announced later — will help make it a truly memorable and momentous event,” Priebus said.

Senator McCain represents the real mistake in 2008; and I’m not so sure the RNC and Republican Establishment have gotten the memo on the whole grassroots revolution that occurred in the party since then. Whoever Romney picks as his VP will signal whether he has been paying attention to what’s happening in his own party.

Seemingly unwilling to be outdone by its counterpart the RNC, the DNC announced today that Carter will address the Charlotte convention via video.

Wrigley Field won’t last forever, and the Cubs fans have been running on fumes for a while. So have the conservatives, and the John McCain selection certainly isn’t sustenance for the 2012 fight.


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Seriously this surprises you?

As long as conservatives rely on the Republican party to get things done this will continue to be just a big conglomeration of fail. Only when conservatives finally cut the umbilical cord and move towards a new party completely independent of Republicans will there be any chance for this country. Until then we’ll continue to stagger from crisis to crisis.

    Doesn’t surprise me at all. The Establishment Republicans keep thinking that they need John “abandon my principles in the name of ‘compromise'” McCain to get to those ever elusive “independent” voters, because otherwise the Republicans get painted as “extremists” and the Independents won’t vote for us.

    NEWSFLASH you GOP ESTABLISHMENT IDIOTS: The Liberals are GOING to accuse you of being an extremist ANYWAY. Here, the best defense would be a good offense of showing exactly how out-of-touch the Liberals are and how extreme THEIR agenda is (higher taxes, more regulation, less liberty, nanny-state government, etc…). If you play the “we want to play nice and seem reasonable” card WE WILL LOSE.

    As a side note: I will NEVER politically forgive McCain for his “gang of fourteen” foolishness when the Democrat Senate Members used the filibuster to block Federal Judges. The INSTANT that happened, the Republicans should have pulled the trigger to change the rules to prevent filibuster and CRAMMED those judges down the Democrat Party’s throat.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Chuck Skinner. | August 7, 2012 at 4:28 pm

      Translation: “Message to GOP – Grow a pair.”

      I found this announcement pretty depressing until I read that Carter was being featured for the DNC. I think the DNC actually outdid the GOP in stupidity this time.

    The Republican Party is what you make it. Get in there and fill those Central Committee seats, represent your precinct, help get out the vote, NOW. get this battleship in the water and heading for the target – NOW. STOP the circular firing squad and squabbles. Quit with the RINO stuff, just get to work to replace Obama – NOW.

    You can rent a giant stadium, and fill it with mud and oil and have a giant mud-wrestling/pillow-fight AFTER THIS GODDAM ELECTION. Have at it! But NOT NOW!

    As Brietbart said: “Ask not what our candidate can do for us, ask what we can do for our candidate.”


      memomachine in reply to Rose. | August 7, 2012 at 3:37 pm

      Except of course it’s never “Ok we’ll do it this election!”. It’s always “Oh no not this election! This election is too important to do that!”. That’s the way it was in 1992 with G H.W. “Read my lips” Bush. And in 1996 with Bob “Who the hell is that?” Dole. And again in 2000 with George “WTF is Compassionate Conservatism?” Bush.

      Really. Compassionate Conservatism. Doesn’t that imply that every other form of conservatism is filled with people with no compassion whatsoever? When I first heard that phrase that’s what came to my mind. That and this was a great way to sell liberalism. And we all know how that turned out right?

      Then in 2008 with John “Conservatives R teh Evuls!” McCain. The sort of leader you want when the leader pretty obviously is running for President to check off an entry in his bucket list. Because nothing attracts conservatives to a particular campaign like being accused of every crime under the sun by the candidate.

      For which I blame Fred Thompson. Who pretty obviously wasn’t enthusiastic about running for President. Who sucked up all the oxygen from every other conservative trying to run. And who dropped out at the last moment when the only other possible candidate was Mr. “What the heck IS a suspended campaign anyways?”.

      It’s actually rather amusing in a way. Because it’s never the right time, always the wrong time and never appropriate to discuss jettisoning the GOP. Meanwhile the GOP views conservatives with barely concealed contempt and if they could they’d make sure we used the back entrance because people like us should never be allowed through the front door like quality folk.

    counsel4pay in reply to memomachine. | August 7, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    I share your outrage. John “Cowardly Gentleman” McCain, has squandered his past storehouse of courage for freedom in so many ways:

    * He has been praising O’Bastard since 2007 through the present: “He is a patriot sincerely intent on using his time in office to advance our country’s cause. I reject accusations that his policies and beliefs make him unworthy to lead America or opposed to its founding ideals.”

    * He made outrageously (and patently false) approvals of Hussein’s future supreme court picks.

    * When ethics questions arose as to financial dealings of Soertoro during before the 2007 election, McCain was quoted: “I do know that Sen. Obama is a very honest and fine person from everything I’ve known about him,” McCain told ABC News when asked about a story in today’s New York Times examining stock purchases made by the Illinois Democrat’s qualified blind trust.

    * He has publicly disrespected Mitt Romney:


If there’s any way for the RNC to lose this election…..

McCain speaking at the convention is the straw the broke the camel’s back for me. ABO this time, but in 2016 my vote’s going elsewhere unless the GOP reinvents itself. Since that’s as likely to occur as a glacier forming in Death Valley, I’m hoping the Tea Party will mature by then.

1st: They better not renovate the restrooms. Those troughs are the most efficient thing I’ve seen. You enter, walk, exit without even realizing that you’ve made nature’s call.

2nd: I don’t want to hear from Santorum or McCain. But how much is this to keep those who might throw out a detrimental soundbite here or there on the reservation. At least for a little longer.

    9thDistrictNeighbor in reply to Jay Jones. | August 7, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Hey, never underestimate the value of renovated bathrooms. I, for one, will appreciate those new, Cubbie-blue stalls when it comes time to hurl when I have to listen to those speeches.

    Now I’m beginning to hope that the convention ends up like 1976: whenever the Reagan supporters became unruly the orchestra piped up with God Bless America, everyone dutifully sang, then went back to the ruckus. That’s how I learned the lyrics to that song.

    I fear we don’t have four more years to survive as a constitutional republic; however, we may have our Gerald Ford nominee….

I pray every day that McCain will just SHUT UP, and now this?
My head hurts.

“My friends..”


    Browndog in reply to Jay Jones. | August 7, 2012 at 3:52 pm


    I logged in to post exactly that-

    If you want to live long enough to vote, don’t have “My friends” in your drinking game!

Geez…our own Captain Edward Smith (re: Titanic) to speak on maritime safety?

O joy…

If he’s not the keynote, I can let it slide.

What’s more important is Mitt’s VP pick. (whatever happened to selecting the vp at the convention? A much better way and made the conventions more interesting, more reflective of the part and of course the establishment hated it.)

There are certain selections that will doom Mitt’s run. There is a certain selection that will indicate to me that he will govern from the left and is politically tone deaf.

I am gratified that some of my “nogos” are on the speakers list which likely means they aren’t the pick. Still there’s some left that are just too liberal for me to accept.

There’s also some who would be so bland and useless that Mitt will likely lose the race but I’ll still vote nevertheless.

McCain is our Jimmy Carter. Venerated due to ???? and sucked up to by the media. (as long as he’s not running for Pres.)

    McCain is venerated by the press because he drops his principles at the first sign of resistance by the Democrat members and to him ‘compromise’ means that the Democrat Party gets EVERYTHING they want and the Republican Members maybe get a couple of things that don’t conflict with the Statist agenda.

    If it weren’t quite so insensitive due to his POW days, I would outright call him John “we surrender” McCain.

I’d rather play Sheriff Joe Arpaio as designated hittter.

The biggest boost to the conservatives has not been the Republican party, for sure, but having Obama as president. The Establishment is no better than the other side and will thwart us at every turn. Hopefully, the Tea Party will become stronger and help to elect politicians who are truly on our side.

Anne, I’m liking you more and more by the day. Keep working on the professor, he shows promise.

I wouldn’t give up on the Cubs yet if I were you. According to the famous documentary “Back to the Future”, the Cubs will beat the Rays in the 2015 World Series. Circle it on your calendar.

Rick Santorum: meh

Rand Paul: good

Jeb Bush: a GOP favorite (like it or not)

Mary Fallin: very popular Oklahoma office holder

Nikki Haley: good

John Kasich: good

Rick Scott: Florida (need we say more)

Condoleezza Rice: strong foreign policy chops

Susana Martinez: popular in a Deemocrat state

Mike Huckabee: blech

John McCain: bad

There are eleven names thus far. Sarah Palin should be added.

    Three more, please. Allen West, Thomas Sowell and Mia Love.

    OH. For Lefty Numbs Nuts that MAY comment, the three above named do NOT see color, neither does Condi Rice…I don’t either, but I betcha’ you do, Lefty..

    You know, the more I see Condoleezza Rice, the more I think that there is some tacit agreement that Romney will nominate her to reprise her Secretary of State duties, and then tell her to go clean up the WORLD (and unlike Bush, actually give her free reign to do it).

    I don’t think you’re going to see Palin in any sort of “official” capacity at the convention. The GOPE is too timid to put her on, because while it would fire up the core base, but the Liberal-Statists would use it to start screaming about how “radical” and “extreme” the Republican Party has become, and it might push out the wishy-washy RINOs and CINOs who adore McCain’s ‘compromise’ (aka surrender) approach.

      Ragspierre in reply to Chuck Skinner. | August 7, 2012 at 2:44 pm
        hrh40 in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm

        No, he’s not.

        His handlers have told him to stop dissing her publicly, because of the pushback.

        But make no mistake, he’s an Establishment guy who does what he’s told.

        All this “don’t pick a VP like the mistake, Palin” narrative that the RNC/Romney crowd have been floating for about 3 months has had a HUGE backlash, including Cheney this week.

        Mostly because it’s a lie and the American people for the most part can only be fooled for a period of time before they see the truth.

        Reince has been told to go out and try to smooth some waters.

        After the Peter Boyer article a few weeks ago when the Romney peeps were saying “Fox News won’t let her out of her contract.” hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

        Last week (when Bolling was subbing for Cavuto’s 4pm EST show) Palin said there has now been contact, and her people (Translation: most likely, Todd) are waiting to hear back from the RNC/Romney people.

          Ragspierre in reply to hrh40. | August 7, 2012 at 3:43 pm

          “Mostly because it’s a lie and the American people for the most part can only be fooled for a period of time before they see the truth.”

          Well, see that is interesting. For instance, Anne’s headline for this post is nice and punchy, but it is also rationally silly.

          And, living in Realityville, I know “we” are not the nation. Conservatives of the stripe you’ll find here are a minority still…even though conservatives are a bigger minority than ever.

          We ARE exerting a lot of influence of late, all to the good. But we are not the GOP. To my way of thinking, we use the GOP, and they reciprocate.

          So, we are not “the American people”…any more than the Revolutionaries were a majority of those living in the Colonies during the war.

          And that is just reality.

      memomachine in reply to Chuck Skinner. | August 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      Personally I’m iffy on Rice. Maybe I have a bad memory but I don’t remember her actually accomplishing anything while in office.

      But if anybody has any evidence to the contrary then by all means correct me. But saying Bush wouldn’t let Rice fix the world frankly sounds like a dodge to me.

    Jay Jones in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Palin shouldn’t speak. But only for this reason: The McCain/Palin ticket was a failure. And McCain is already speaking. I’d rather her than McCain, but him by himself is better than both.

      hrh40 in reply to Jay Jones. | August 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm


      McCain’s the one who lost that race.

      Palin gave him a chance to win.

        Jay Jones in reply to hrh40. | August 7, 2012 at 6:44 pm

        I agree. But, if the die is cast with McCain, I think it would be an error to have her speak as well.

        I think McCain and Palin should be mutually exclusive when it comes to presidential politics from now on. I’d say the McCain/Palin campaign failure lies at the feet of McCain. But Palin’s name was still on the ticket. She’s crafted her own brand since. But teaming up with him, even if they’re speaking on separate nights is a ready made attack ad/John Stewart piece.

        A McCain speech will fire up no one. It won’t contribute to any bounce in the polls Romney might get. Palin would at the very least drive up the enthusiasm numbers.

    hrh40 in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Jeb Bush is only a favorite in an ever-shrinking Bush Familia circle. The Globalist Bushes are bad news. Ever since Prescott Bush funded the Nazis (I’m in CT and he was our last Republican Senator, sigh.) More and more Americans are understanding just what the Bushes stand for:

    Condi Rice is a two-state solution, thinly-veiled anti-Semite and a neoconservative, who wants U.S. troops everywhere around the world.

      hrh40 in reply to hrh40. | August 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      For those who dislike my comments, research the Bush family history and Condi Rice.

      She is very intelligent and very accomplished. I admire much about her. But she is wrong on many of her policy stands.

      It does not surprise me that Mitt Romney is giving her such a high profile.

      But it tells me Romney’s on board with Bush Familia Global Intervention.

      I suggest you read the article I linked.

      I also have great admiration for W. Bush, who’s a decent, caring guy. I personally don’t think he goes in for the whole Internationalist thing as much as his grandfather, father, and brother, Jeb.

      See: H.W. and Jeb’s visit with Obama in the Oval Office in January 2012 and big media splash when they all agreed to release that photo.

        I am not a rice fan.
        sorry, she is a republican not a conservative.
        she is an intelligent and accomplished person, I am not trying to demean her, but she is not what we need when we have someone like romney at the top.

    Browndog in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Interesting list-

    I see 3 different speeches and 8 repeats.


Mitt mailer just arrived. Shredding. Gone to SarahPAC to donate another $50.

“The RNC is starting to treat conservatives the way the Chicago Cubs treats its fans.”

There is nothing “starting” about it. That’s the way it’s been forever. So long as conservatives keep holding their noses and buying into the ABO/LOTE scam, nothing will change.

All of Romney’s moves accomplish nothing more than to consolidate the 25% that represents his “base”. But then, he has had them consolidated all along. They vote Republican no matter what.

What we are at risk of seeing in November if nothing changes is the compounding of the 2008 phenomena where over 8 million southern Reagan Democrats stayed home. They are conservative Democrats which means that they are treated with even more disdain than the Republican conservatives. Why did the Tea Party form again?

    Ragspierre in reply to Pasadena Phil. | August 7, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Naturally, I disagree, because I do not think in a binary fashion.

    Romney has given Jews reasons to vote FOR him.

    Independents are breaking for the ANTI-Obama.

    Romney has given people who support capitalism reasons to support him.

    But I never called Palin a “Rino”.

    And I don’t believe that markets REQUIRE regulation.

    And I never voted for Bob Barr.

    Or stated that, “…the heart of both the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street is the same.”

      All right Raggie, since you insist on posting that lie over and over again, I will clarify again what I mean to you Republican apologists. I will use all caps because you “non-binary” thinkers seem to have trouble keeping more than one idea in your heads.

      MOST OF AMERICA IS NOT POLITICAL. You uber-partisans of “both” Democratic parties refer to them as “the stupid majority” who don’t see things your way.

      THOSE NON-POLITICAL TYPES ARE AWAKENING. And the more they educate themselves in this digital age, the less they like about “both” Democratic parties.

      “BOTH” DEMOCRATIC PARTIES ARE SHRINKING. Unaffiliated independent is the fastest, if not the only, political party that is growing.

      THEY ARE FLEEING FOR THE VERY SAME REASONS. As “both” groups meet in the middle saying the same things (it just doesn’t matter which party you vote for, they take us to the same place), they are learning to evolve past the fact that they speak a different political language depending on whether they are fleeing the Democratic Party or the Assistant Democratic Party.


      THE CONSERVATIVES WHO FLED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT FIRST GRAVITATED TO THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT. Only in the beginning. Once they saw what OWS was about, they disappeared leaving only the professional activists. Where did they go?

      Well, since THEY want the very same thing that WE want, shouldn’t they be on OUR team? Or is your mission to keep your precious Republican cult small? No converts. No winning people over. No one from CA. No former Democrats.

      Well, you “non-binary thinkers” can keep holding your noses and looking down on us “stupid” people. I would say that YOU are the stupid people. More and more Americans are getting it. Why can’t you?

      Now knock it off. You are tedious. Grow a pair.

        Ragspierre in reply to Pasadena Phil. | August 7, 2012 at 4:03 pm


        Pray, elaborate. Tell us all about it, Fillie.

        Was it this…

        “I am not advocating government-mandated income or wealth redistribution.

        I am arguing for re-establishing a society where the income and wealth gets distributed more fairly as a result of better laws.”

        Because I still wonder if that was one of your comedic stylings. Because, see, it is self contradictory.

        It is also WAY out of what I consider Conservative support for markets (NOT laws) as the means to afford the highest standard of living for the most.

        But I sometimes have trouble knowing when you are serious. Like when you called Palin a RINO, or when you say there is no difference between Romney and Obama.

        That seems sort of…binary…to me.

        Ragspierre in reply to Pasadena Phil. | August 7, 2012 at 6:24 pm


        Did you run again…???

        How ’bout this one…?

        “However, there is one very important thing that the OWSers have right which we Tea Party folks are resistant too [sic] and that [is] the OWSers are right about the 1%.”


        you 2 going to start in on each other again?
        wordpress needs an ignore function so the 2 of you can ignore each other,

Ernie Banks for VP?

We’re all breathlessly waiting for your “world-class convention”, I’m sure.

You’re worse than anachronisms, GOP, you’re obstacles.

You’re dying. If you can’t take the root of Athelas and at least let Palin, West or Ken Cuccinelli keynote, it’ll be official.

RINO TRAITOR AMNESTY-JOHN mccain and THE-SECOND-WORST-PRESIDENT-IN-AMERICAN-HISTORY carter are two losers that no rational person would want to see EVER again. By letting these bottom-feeders speak at the conventions, the establishment pols prove, once again, that their heads are so far shoved up their “bill-mahers” that they haven’t a clue what the current, real world is like and what responsible, sane American voters want.

I’ve been telling you that Romney as the nominee was going to give Obama a second term.

The lessons of Ted Cruz and several others should spell one thing to the RNC. Shut up, ask the Tea Party for candidates and lose all those old RINOs.

The Democrats are handing out excused absences to their incumbents so they don’t have to

Don’t have to appear on the dias with Obama.

Despite this huge advantage we are rapidly being treated to a Republican convention that will be painful for everyone who wants to see Obama out of office.

I have to disagree with this one. McCain has earned a spot at the Convention, as a prior candidate, as has Sarah Palin. We should NEVER throw our gladiators to the curb, it is disrespectful and says more about us than them if we so dishonor our prior choice.

We can debate McCain’s mistakes and faults – I believe that his choice of Sarah Palin energized us and brought him within striking distance of Obama against impossible odds (in-the-tank media and merciless Soros funded attacks at every level of society). She breathed new life into this party, and gave us hope that we can yet fix what has gone wrong.

If the establishment doesn’t invite her, McCain should bring her in on his arm, and cede her some time and respect as well.

Doing this does not mean Mitt should adopt McCain’s passive tactics – he needs to hit Obama hard, and if he doesn’t, we have to do it for him. Don’t discount our role.

    Let’s not forget that had McCain not gotten stupid (when he thought he was being magnanimous and shrewd) in suspending his campaign. Had he not tried to be clever by half, he might have won, or would have held Obama to a much tighter and close victory, which he wouldn’t have been able to do without Palin. It would have made the difference in the Senate for sure; the Democrats wouldn’t have been to close to a filibuster-proof Senate.

    gs in reply to Rose. | August 7, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    1. Rose, this comment is full of sturdy good sense and so is your previous one.

    I’ll repeat what I haven’t posted in some time: It’s hard to unseat an incumbent President, even one as bad as Obama.

    It’s hard, but it’s not impossible. Jimmy Carter did it!

    2. As for the 2008 nominee, what is the GOP supposed to do, put him in the back row with a bag over his head?

    3. Yes indeed, Palin should have a role at the convention.

    4. George Bush chose to not attend the convention. While his performance in office disappointed me, I commend this decision for the good of the party.

EschatonSoon | August 7, 2012 at 3:09 pm

My father was a Naval Academy classmate of McCain’s and went through Naval Aviator flight training together in 1959/60. My Dad flew his missions in Vietnam not a hot shot like McCain but was a great officer and had a 25 year career in the Navy. The difference is my Dad never flew his trainer plane in a lake nor did he ever compromise his integrity! McCain is a poster child for term limits and everything wrong with Washington DC and especially the US Senate. I also worked on the Hill for three years for a Representative (Republican) and I moved far away to the South after seeing how Congress works because there is no Adult Leadership in Washington DC ! GOD HELP US ALL !!!

    Jay Jones in reply to EschatonSoon. | August 7, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    There’s plenty of reasons to attack McCain for his career as a senator.

    But lets not touch his military career. His refusing to be released from a POW camp unless those that were captured before him were released as well (in accordance with the POW code of conduct) is something few of us would do. That is character.

    I don’t think public office should have been offered to him solely as a result of his service. And I don’t like him as a Senator and didn’t like him much as a presidential candidate.

    But I’m willing to look past any lows in his career because of his actions in the POW camp.

      for how long are you willing to look away?
      this is the problem with mccain that he has been capitalizing off for years.
      he did a good thing and since then has been forgiven for all the many bad things due to the one good thing.

      its got to stop.

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | August 7, 2012 at 3:14 pm

At least they didn’t invite Meghan McCain, Bruce Bartlett, and David Frumm to speak.

Although, with speakers to be announced later, there’s always a chance.

I have not and will not give one cent to the RNC. I am giving what little I can directly to the candidates. More than McCain speaking at the convention, I am dreading to see what novel way the RNC will find to destroy us in the debates. What will they compromise there?

Henry Hawkins | August 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Keynoter: TED CRUZ

Either Team Romney’s campaign plan is ever so shrewd, or we’re witnessing a dated copy of 2008.

I decided some time ago I wasn’t waiting any longer to make provisions, the best that I could, for a 2nd Obama term. If I’m wrong, so much the better. If not, well, then, . . .

Subotai Bahadur | August 7, 2012 at 3:50 pm

While I am technically still registered as a Republican, it is because I can help the TEA Party take it over. 1/3 of my County Central Committee and the Precinct Chairs are TEA Party. Our County officials are largely TEA Party. Our State Senator is TEA Party. And the others have learned that it is not a good idea to diss us.

My primary political loyalty is to the TEA Party/Patriot Movement. I recognize that the Institutional Republicans are perfectly happy with the country going downhill as long as they get first position at the trough ahead of the Democrats, but they are perfectly willing to take second position there rather than give up power to the “peasants”.

Mitt Romney is not my choice of candidate. He will not do anything to reclaim the country and Constitution. But he does not actively hate them the way Obama and the Democrats do. He is not Obama, and that will have to do.

The morning of November 7, regardless of who wins, the battle to save the country begins in earnest. If Romney wins, that battle can remain political and electoral. And it will involve the TEA Party/Patriot Movement separating from the Republicans and developing their own power base and voice as soon as possible.

If Obama wins, we will not be dealing with elections again for the foreseeable future. The Institutionals will probably shift sides and collaborate to keep an illusion of power and privilege. [see Filipino Japanese collaborator Jose P. Laurel]. And events will proceed.

So I will ignore the Institutionals attempting to insult and demoralize us, and I will definitely not even bother to watch the convention. I will vote for Romney, because politics and elections are preferable to the alternative. But I will realize that the Institutionals may prefer a deliberate loss and that alternative.

“…Duty is as heavy as a Mountain.”

Subotai Bahadur

    LupusVeritatis in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | August 7, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    “If Romney wins, that battle can remain political and electoral. And it will involve the TEA Party/Patriot Movement separating from the Republicans and developing their own power base and voice as soon as possible.”

    Why should the TEA Party separate from them? Instead, take them over and save all that building-of-infrastructure that dooms third parties.

    Sounds like you’ve made a good start in your locality / state.  Continuing to work on that plan seems more productive, to me.

As an ACTUAL Cubs Fan (notice the Cubs hat at I take offense. The Liberal (RINO?) Tribune SOLD the franchise to the founders of AmeriTrade (True Conservatives btw) who have sacrificed immediate success on the field (or at least the hope of it) for building around long term youngsters who have great baseball fundamentals.

The MANAGEMENT of the Cubs (put in place by the conservative owners) represented by former Boston brainchild Theo Epstein, has begun to execute that fan moving such Cubs favorites as Reed Johnson, Ryan Dempster and retiring Kerry Wood. IN OTHER WORDS – they are taking action on long held PRINCIPLES of good baseball management, rather than the adoration of the fans.

The RNC is has also been “sold” to conservatives, perhaps without their knowledge. For the right price. With Ted Cruz, Mourdock and other successes delivering REAL players that provide power – they will have no choice.

However, since 2010 not a single RNC chairmanship or seat went to a Tea Party person. Change can be slow. (Just ask a Cub fan.)

But it IS happening whether they like it or not. And a revolt on the floor of the convention in Tampa is a great way to put them on notice.

The RINOs, like all dying breeds of power-mad tyrants, are holding on as hard as they can. They’re pretending conservatives don’t exist in the hopes we’ll just shhut up and go away. It’s true, and for now beside the point.

If we can’t beat Obama, it’ll be like the D-Day invasion failing. Like it or not, Romney is our beachhead. If Romney loses, the future becomes very, very grim indeed.

If Romney and Congressional Republicans (assuming they get a majority) don’t play ball, the 2000 — 2012 era will be a replay of 1840 — 1850.

In 1840, the Whigs swept both Houses of Congress and the presidency, but William Henry Harrison died after just one month, and John Tyler, the ultimate “RINO” (“WINO?”) of all time, vetoed all Whig legislation, leading to Whig decimation in the 1842 midterms. In 1848, they got another (undeserved) chance when Democrat disunity helped elect Zachary Taylor. Taylor died in 1850, and Whig-RINO “compromise with the enemy” (here, on slavery) Millard Fillmore pushed through the Missouri Compromise. The Whigs were finished.

Let’s review:
1. Party gets mandate
2. Party betrays voters
3. Party falls into disfavor
4. Party gets another unlikely chance
5. Party blows last chance
6. Party destroyed.

Sound familiar? We seem to be at or near #5 above; if Bush was Tyler, Mitt seems determined to be Fillmore. If that happens, spontaneously;
1. The GOP will die
2. The Conservative Party (whatever it calls itself) will rise
3. Bush, Romney, and all the other worthless RINOs will join the Democrats, where they belong anyway.

But to get there, we need to elect Romney.

    CalMark in reply to CalMark. | August 7, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Just re-read my previous post. Two thoughts (must be list-day, ha):
    1. Sorry about the length of the post;
    2. Politics is beyond strange: before we can exorcize people like Romney from government, we must elect Romney himself.

He was the party nominee last time, is a war hero, POW, and has been a harsh critic of Obama’s foreign policies.

If “conservatives” are so petty and pissy as to be de-motivated to get rid of Obama because McCain gets one of – what? 30? – the speaking slots at the convention, then we deserve to lose.

Of course, real conservatives are happy to see him, even if he wasn’t a great candidate. It’s the whiners in the Purity Police who are constantly threatening to take their marbles and go home if they don’t get their way.

Take ’em, losers, and begone with you! Go hide under your beds until you grow a set. We’ll fight this fight without you if we must.

Just don’t come looking for spoils if we win, and don’t ever let us see your pathetic cowardly faces if we don’t.

    CalMark in reply to Estragon. | August 7, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Oh, hello there, Concern Troll!

    McCain doesn’t deserve to speak because he was one of the most abysmally incompetent GOP presidential candidates, ever. He is partially responsible for the mess we’re in today.

    As for greatness in foreign policy…well. Ol’ Grumpy John thinks Michelle Bachmann is evil for investigating a State Dept. political appointee with family ties to a radical terrorist group.

    Nice insults. Don’t forget your meds, and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Hugs.

      Ragspierre in reply to CalMark. | August 7, 2012 at 4:43 pm

      I note in passing that Estragon is a long-time poster here, a person of some integrity, and never called you any names.

      You, conversely DID call names.

      Both of you made valid points (I call the Sr. Sen. from Arizona “McAnus”).

        OcTEApi in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 4:59 pm


        Hate to sound petty and pissy but they said if I voted for McCain that Sarah Palin would be just a heartbeat away from the Presidency…

        I’ll trade you two tiger eye’d rino’s, a Huntsman and two stealies for Pres. candidate Sarah Palin’s 2012 VP running mate speech.

        Henry Hawkins in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 5:06 pm

        ‘Some’ integrity?

        Faint praise, indeed, lol.

        CalMark in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 5:24 pm

        “…and never called you any names.”

        Oh yeah? According to Estragon, people (like me) who want McCain banished and forgotten are:

        – “petty and pissy ”
        – “whiners in the Purity Police”
        – “losers”
        – [emasculated]: “Go hide under your beds until you grow a set.”
        – “pathetic cowardly”

        OK. Once again, I’ve responded to you, and I’m done talking to you.

Girding thy loins once again.

Henry Hawkins | August 7, 2012 at 4:48 pm

When the RNC calls me for direction, as I’m sure they will, any day now, any day… I’d advocate:

1. Do not announce Romney’s VP choice until the convention. The VP choice is the last big piece still missing, and it will increase convention viewership if you hold out till then.

2. Having held out till then and increased viewership accordingly, take advantage by featuring a 50/50 mix of GOP and conservative speakers, something for everyone from independents through moderate GOP-ers and on through TP-ers.

3. Once the convention is over and the VP choice is public, LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF CAMPAIGN. That is, turn loose all the surrogates in a coordinated blitzkrieg against Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.

4. Assign some RNC staffer, one with large feet, to kick Romney in the pebble sack first thing every morning in hopes that the abject pain this will cause might be mistaken for passion.

5. You’ve got the money, so after the convention SPEND IT.

6. Every election is labeled seminal or the most important since yada yada, but this time around it is true. With the convention over, VP chosen, surrogates turned loose, and the ad buys sky-rocketing, stop playing this defense-first touch football game and start knocking heads.

7. The Obama administration, more than any that has passed before, is capable of absolutely anything in terms of late campaign ‘game-changers’ and October surprise(s), including starting a damn war, so get ahead and stay ahead, provide yourselves a buffer for when the inevitable, unpredictable, and likely totally unethical Obama/Chicago trick plays start coming. They will not leave you time to play catch-up – you must be ahead as much as possible when it comes.

Any day now…. (staring at the phone).

Next to be announced:

-Dierdre Scozzafava


-Charlie Crist

(schedule Palin at 3:00 a.m., and have her give her speech in a closet, and she’ll outdraw, out inspire that entire list combined)

To Reince Priebus: fuck you too.

Maybe Romney will choose Christine Todd Whitman. Especially now that she’s taken the uniquely brave RINO position that Romney needs to stand up to… his own base.

Yes, the problem isn’t the lying, ruthless and vituperative Left, it’s the conservative base. Show your mettle, Mitt! Slap down those conservatives in a “Sister Souljah moment.” That’s the ticket.

    Ragspierre in reply to raven. | August 7, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    How do you feel about Gen Petreaus?

      raven in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 6:41 pm

      I honestly don’t know. There is the aura of the Establishment about him, i.e., of a Washington player. And military credentials seem sort of superfluous in this election. I think Romney needs above all a solid and engaging conservative (all other basic qualifications being assumed) capable of dishing it out to the Left and media as good as they’re going to get it. With Reagan, it didn’t matter so much. Romney doesn’t have the luxury — or political personality and presence — to make a poor pick. And I’m not sure he has the personal confidence or security to choose someone “stronger” than he is, either as a man (or woman) or a conservative. This is going to be interesting.

        Ragspierre in reply to raven. | August 7, 2012 at 6:53 pm

        Well, I note that Allen West suggested a VP with military creds.

        I certainly think that would be a valuable component to have close to the President’s ear. I don’t know a great deal about the General, but he does strike me as someone who has some balls, and is smarter than Hill-larry Clinton.

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Ragspierre. | August 7, 2012 at 8:22 pm

      Petraeus repeated today he has zero interest in the VP slot or any elected office.

Sarah Palin needs to be on the ticket – not stammering Stanley(aka Romney)

Hope this is not a repeat. Alan West brought in Chik-fil-a to feed the black caucus for lunch. The others were shocked and ticked off. hehe

Chicago Cubs? Ron Santo could vote 10 times.

So how is it we get Kasich instead of Scott Walker? You would think that Priebus could influence this better choice for a great governor, unless, of course, Walker is going to be the featured speaker.

Want to see who your neighborhood business is donating money?

Just input the zip.

Henry Hawkins | August 7, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Hmmm. Despite many donations over the years, I am not listed.

Raquel Pinkbullet | August 7, 2012 at 8:25 pm

The difference between the parties is:
The Republican party is the party of personal responsibility, and freedom, above all else.
The DemocRAT party is the party of death, of expedience – the end justifies the means. Individuals exist only to serve the State, they have no intrinsic value because for liberals there is no God. Government is the only god that must be served, all for the common and greater good, of course. Anyone who does not agree must be re-educated or eliminated, and that’s OK with them.

I blame McCain and his merry band of marauders for much of the damage that was done to Sarah Palin. He took a governor with an 80% approval rating and good political skills, but no foreign policy or national stage experience, and threw her to the wolves. He forced her to roll the boulder up the hill as he dithered.

She drew 90% of the enemy flak in a desperate kamikaze bid to save the campaign which caused the lasting damage that even today, produces calumniations from the left, and keeps her from a speaking slot at the GOP convention.

McCain is toxic to all with whom he comes into contact. I hope the delegates are issued hazmat suits before he is introduced.

    punfundit in reply to jimposter. | August 7, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I think the convention would be an excellent opportunity for leading conservatives (assuming any are invited) to approach Senator McCain publicly and invite him to come back to the Republican Party. Let Senator McCain know that he will be welcomed with open arms whenever he decides to come back to the Republican Party.

    (I stole this from an old Limbaugh bit.)

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