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If not bloggers, who?

If not bloggers, who?

Yesterday I posted about Joe Scarborough bad-mouthing bloggers sitting in the basement eating Cheetos.

Last night Michelle Malkin encountered the same attitude from Juan Williams (jump ahead to 6:45 if you don’t have much time)(via HotAir):

I’ll tell you what Michelle, I’m a real reporter, not a blogger out in the blogosphere somewhere …

Bloggers can’t let up on these issues, particularly Fast & Furious, which has been buried by the mainstream media. Here is a good video via Tom in the Tip Line:

If we don’t continue to speak up about these issues, who will?

And if all they got is to bash bloggers and Cheetos, we must be doing something right.



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Sitting at a desk and regurgitating official talking points is not “reporting.”

    Neo in reply to myiq2xu. | June 14, 2012 at 10:39 am

    You really have to question if some of these “reporters” actually exist.

    Take Greg Sargent, Please.
    Does this guy really exist. He could be replaced in a minute with a few hundred lines of software. I mean, it isn’t that hard to copy the stuff from the DNC and Media Matters straight into the paper.

But… aren’t real reporters people who operate their own little printing presses and distribute paper and ink materials, like Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson did? Not entertainers hired to talk on that boob tube contraption.

Continue kicking out the jams, Prof.!!!

Let that sunlight SHINE in…good and hard!

Up New Media! Down Mushroom “reporting”!

Coming soon: Cheetos Media (Assuming that Lays doesn’t object on trademark grounds.)

Fox must give Williams a platform to demonstrate, first-hand, the asinine thought processes of the progressive left.

    myiq2xu in reply to logos. | June 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Williams isn’t a real lefty, he’s a caricature like Stephen Colbert. Fox puts him on for comedy relief.

      persecutor in reply to myiq2xu. | June 15, 2012 at 7:02 am

      Ah, so he’s a composite liberal? Now it makes sense.

      I seem to recall Michelle and the other non-journalists saving Juan’s sorry butt when NPR axed him.

      That’s gratitude for you!

I don’t own a basement and I HATE Cheetos.

On another front, our local REAL media, the Times-Picayune, is going to 3 days a week this despite already having been given a tax exemption. Maybe these legacy reporters are the true bitter clingers.

/waives at those left in the ash heap of history.

Whan! Whan. Ye showed such promise in yer youth! But now that yew are long of tooth ; Yew be but a shill , Forsooth!

They don’t like what bloggers have to say. Ergo: “Shut up!”

traditional journalism is dying: the ones left (pun intended) are incredibly afraid to take a chance for fear of reprisal (from whom? sheryll atkinson’s gauntlet springs to mind).

there are still a few traditional journalists out there with some integrity. Jake Tapper every once in a while does his job.

woodward and bersntein might as well be dead.

but by and large, bloggers are the ones taking the risks. those doubling as freelance journo/bloggers are the ones ahead of the curve. they are not sheltered. they hustle.

also, didn’t bloggers rally behind juan williams when he was fired for blasphemy?

thomas paine would have been a blogger.

Another example of the left losing the debate and not being able to accept the results. At least Williams didn’t start crying like the guy in Wisconsin aka the “Crying Man”.
I’ll take a “blogger” like Michelle over a “professional journalist” like Juan every time.

Of the bloggers I’ve read, Michelle’s is one of the better ones. I find her blogs timely, insightful, and informative. Also, this a biggie for me, most of those who post at her blog add to the conversation through humor, pointed observations, hard-earned experience, and a belief in the goodness of this country and her people.

Man, if Juan wants to “knock” bloggers, did he pick the wrong one!

Take the venerable NBC News. Chet Huntley and David Brinkley. They covered the moon landings with John Chancellor.

After months of investigation, NBC News reported on the DOJ misadventure called “Fast and Furious” in a 10 second piece. This isn’t journalism. This is BS .. and they know it.

The NBC News of yesteryear is gone .. to the dogs.

    Neo in reply to Neo. | June 14, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Multiple, previously highly credible, sources close to the Gunwalker investigation report that there are at least one and perhaps two sources within the Department of Justice headquarters who have approached the Issa Committee seeking whistleblower status. One source, who reported that there were at least two of Eric Holder’s subordinates who “came in from the cold,” characterized them as “high-level” DOJ employees “with knowledge of Eric Holder’s actions before and after” the 4 February 2011 DOJ letter denying that the DOJ and its subordinate agencies knew about “gunwalking.”

    … and this doesn’t come from broadcast or cable TV

    There is ONE: Sharyl Attkisson.

The fact is I almost never look at MSM outlets for news.

80 % blogs
20 % msm media

Henry Hawkins | June 14, 2012 at 10:48 am

Print news media – primarily liberal and dying.
Broadcast news media – primarily liberal and dying.
Cable news media – primarily liberal and dying.
Internet news media (blogs) – alive and growing, whether liberal, conservative, or centrist.

The resentments revealed by the Scarboroughs and Williams are against the internet in general, which is usurping traditional news delivery, rather than against bloggers per se.

Sometimes change isn’t paired with hope, eh Juan?

I read books not media. Then I blog.

Cowboy Curtis | June 14, 2012 at 10:56 am

People get upset about this stuff, but I enjoy these little outbursts. The establishment press is a dying medium, and its ailment is almost entirely self-inflicted. And they know it. Mainstream journalism knows how to save itself, but they’d rather be spokesmen for modern liberalism than survive (perhaps even thrive) as objective reporters.

So there’s something deeply satisfying about listening to them wail curses as they knowingly lash themselves ever tighter to a rapidly sinking ship.

There’s been a lot of change over the last few years. In 2007 the war was being declared “lost” in Iraq, the Marines were beginning to say that their job was winding down and it was time to move over to Afghanistan — and at Iraq the Model, a link to a blog story as a news item would be greeted with derision from the commenters.

Fauxtography was a new term.

Eason Jordan had been allowed to resign without explanation from CNN only a couple of years before, for traveling around the world telling other newsies that US troops were targeting reporters, and admitting to spiking news stories about the murderous Saddam Hussein.

Jayson Blair and his supervisor, Howell Raines had been forced out at the New York Times for lying.

Neither CNN nor the NYT responded with appropriate upgrades in the quality of their reporting.

Barack Obama was only beginning to be shoved down the voters’ throats, with the very active help of the New York Times, and the Washington Post, both by fawning coverage, and by suppression of stories about his background, his likely policies, and financial misconduct by his election campaign.

in 2009, Newt Gingrich and the Rev. Al Sharpton teamed up with others to discuss educational reform, and they did so in a civil and rational manner, with some good concrete suggestions. Our news media, led by the lying Rachel Maddow, buried this story and the discussion by pretending that the Republicans are out to destroy public education. They put an end to the discussion, to the detriment of our national dialog, and of our school children.

Across this entire time frame, we’ve had a so-called environmental movement perpetuate a huge, and hugely expensive, scientific fraud, a fraud that essentially disproved, not by newspapers or TV reporters, but by one blogger, Anthony Watts.

The development of blogs as news sources is a direct response to the poor quality and execrable editorial decisions of our major news sources.

Just finished reading an article in the medical literature on the evils of cutting and pasting a medical record instead of each physician independently examining the patient and formulating their own conclusions. The authors of the article made the point that the former is nothing more than plagiarism.

Regurgitating talking points is the same and should be held to the same level of scorn.

Yo, Juan…. take a look at the 5 year stock price of some of the big news media corporations. McClatchy and Lee Enterprises for example.

Cassandra Lite | June 14, 2012 at 11:14 am

I don’t think Tom Paine worked for MSNBC or the New York Times.

Wathced it last night in real time. Talking about a Mommy Grizzly !!! I think Juan soiled his elite undergarments.

If not bloggers, who indeed? It doesn’t help when Federal District Court judges think that the application of Libel law depends on whether you’re on the NYT dole or eating cheetos.

If the best “dirt” someone can throw at bloggers (reporter of the facts), is accusing them of something that is patently untrue, I think the bloggers have just gotten the highest possible compliment.

Look at the points going in the other direction: failure to report the news (with citations), deliberate manipulation of the news for political ends (with citations).

If this were a court case, I’m reminded of the adage that “if the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the law is on your side, pound the law. If neither is on your side, pound the table”. The MSM is pounding the table. Which says they got nothin’ else.

Keep up the good work!

I think it’s time for a new blogsite “ThomasPaineRevolutionaryBlogger”.

Prof Jacobson does a nice job on his pieces, and sources his material well — he even talks to parties involved in a story. Malkin tends to source her material well, but also tends to be so strident that her “reporting” becomes difficult to embrace. Other blogs just cut and paste their way along without editorial supervision. Allahpundit, whom I love to read, from time to time uses the phrase “too good to check.”

Still, Prof Jacobson’s post is right. Les Moonves recently recently confirmed that partisanship is built into the cake of traditional reporting [see, so one wonders what editorial supervision is left in the elite reporting realm. Juan Williams’ derision of bloggers is just pushback against the blogosphere being the defacto editor/fact-checker of stories coming out of the traditional media outlets. It’s a lot harder for the MSM to get away with their distortions. I’m sure Dan Rather thought Buckhead was some irrelevant hayseed who needn’t be listened to [see Buckhead’s interview at

Well, it was reported by Sanger that through “unknown sources and experts” who refused to give their names because its highly classified, that its Cyber Warfare Operation Olympic Games that was ordered by President George W. Bush starting in 2008…

…efforts that were stepped up by Obama and Sanger even gives insider information on the conversations, the gustiness of wind that had come out of Obama’s mouth “according to members of the president’s national security team who were in the room.”

…and NOT as Juan Williams say’s that these Plume Fluffing leaks were from reporters who go and talk to Officials in this town and “that’s not classified.”

And if we remember history correctly, it was in response to Clinton’s Chinagate of leaked nuclear secrets that Clinton issued PDD 24, a Presidential Decision Directive that reorganized Counter Intelligence agency’s in a large-scale bureaucracy of intelligence agencies under direct control of the NSA and White House.
PDD 24 created an intelligence roadblock into the investigation of illegal Chinese donations to the DNC that which ultimately led to blocked interagency cooperation across the intelligence community and from sharing information that could have halted the September 11 hijacking plot.

So as these traitorous leftards are giving away American taxpayer funded secrets for personal gain or leaking classified info for Plume Fluffing self-aggrandizement or obstructing the punishment of those who do it… it can be ultimately assured it always ends in dead Americans.

Just remember, Noah was an novice amateur shipbuilder, and the Titanic was built by professionals.

DINORightMarie | June 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm

Not only did Michelle Malkin pwn Juan Williams, he was wrong on his point althogether. Michelle Malkin was kind to him, IMHO.

Michelle Malkin is a trained, educated, bona fide journalist (her major at Oberlin was English), with experience writing for several newspapers before becoming a syndicated columnist and author; she broke out into the blogosphere with her entrepreneurial smash hit Hot Air and her ever-popular personal blog, Currently, with Twitchy, she is continuing that cutting-edge entrepreneurial genius, seeing that Twitter has become a world-wide up-to-the-second news source (e.g. Iran’s Green Revolt, the Trayvon Martin case, Anthony Weiner – via Andrew Breitbart, and the current leftist tactic of shutting up the voice of conservatives via the #TwitterGulag).

Who is the “REAL” journalist, again? Yeah, the (gorgeous) lady with nerves of steel (and more!), Michelle Malkin. She is what “REAL” journalism is all about.

(Also – thanks for linking to that Fast & Furious video; it is the best summary of that criminal activity and cover up I’ve seen. It is a great way to share the information, and let people who haven’t heard about it know what it is. The MSM sure isn’t telling them!!)

Most of us still retain a post-Watergate mentality. That is – we believe in true investigative reporters, who act as truth-seekers, and who are almost like a second arm of law-enforcement, holding public officials accountable, exposing lies, especially dangerous ones, and making sure the process stays clean.

We have been relentlessly and repeatedly betrayed by reporters who have settled into their leftist bias, who denigrate and mock good and decent people, and who will do anything to protect this incompetent activist POThead POTUS.

It’s sad. But don’t be hating on Juan Williams, there’s still hope for him. He has seen the hypocrisy of the left, and had it leveled right at his head. I don’t know why he’s taking this position, it’s indefensible, and beneath him. But it’s endemic, and indicative of what you hear from the hypnotized kool-aid drinkers, who are not only reporters, but our family members and friends. When will they wake up? Maybe Juan is the canary in the mine who can tell us.

Henry Hawkins | June 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Juan Williams – Professional reporter
Michelle Malkin – Amateur, blogger

General Cornwallis – Professional soldier
George Washington – Amateur soldier

Repub & Dem Parties – Professional politicians
Tea Party – Amateur grassrooters

Professional is as professional does.

The dinosaurs of the legacy media roaring as their world crumbles around them…

Music to my ears.

Holy Cow, Juan looks like markos musandshit, in that still shot.

JackRussellTerrierist | June 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm

I think somebody should set the record straight right now lest we be subjected to further maligning of the noble Cheeto. Cheetos are, hands down, indisputably, THE very finest junk food created by man and is one of the world’s greatest achievements.

Malkin rocks. Nice riposte to Williams’ arrogance.

Heh, slap fights like these always amuse me and remind me of a Meet the Press roundtable from a couple of years ago. Its the two Toms talking about blogs and the internet in relation to the Van Jones firing. The money quotes start at about 1:20 but the whole clip is worth it:

The internet you see is an “open sewer” and the two Toms are there in hip waders sifting through the detritus to find the truth for us. Saints preserve the holy journolists as they bring us the varnished truth.

I don’t think Michelle likes Juan.

Of course, I don’t like the arrogant, smug, self-serving, lying idiot either.

Juan is no match for Michelle Malkin and he knows it. Liberal elitism just took a national backhand to the face.