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Stuck in Elizabethville

Stuck in Elizabethville

That seems to be the attitude of Massachusetts Democrats, as reported by The Boston Herald:

Bay State Democrats are standing by their woman, saying they’re confident in embattled Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren — now three weeks into a persistent scandal over her claims of Native American heritage — though critics say she’ll arrive at her party’s state convention next month battered by it.

“This is a race that is a dead heat,” said state Democratic Party chairman John Walsh, citing a recent poll and insisting the flap has had no effect on Warren’s standing as the party’s front-runner. He said no one is talking about replacing her. “It’s not a sentiment that is out there at all.”

“The Democratic Party is really stuck,” countered University of New Hampshire political science professor Andrew Smith. “They essentially cleared the path for her as a candidate, and they can’t get rid of her now. She could conceivably drop out, but I doubt that will be the case, and I doubt the party will try to push her aside.”

Being stuck in Elizabethville is neither literally nor figuratively correct.

First, there is another Democratic candidate, Marisa DeFranco.  Second, as Ed Morrissey points out, since when have Democrats bothered with rules; just massage the process to give someone else a chance to run.

Massachusetts Democrats need to understand that the Cherokee issue is not going to go away:

Even though the questions on her ancestry won’t go away, Elizabeth Warren  continues to ignore the fact that this is an issue that we would like her to  address. I guess we Cherokees, the very people she claimed to be, don’t really  matter to her unless she can use us to get what she wants out of life. I have  thought about what she needed to say to end this matter. I wondered if she could  end this and manage to get out of it gracefully and with some dignity intact. I  believe she could have, had she have dealt with this immediately, but she  didn’t….

Unfortunately, Elizabeth Warren continues to see her false claims of Indian  ancestry as a non-issue. Because of this, I have no option but to continue to  condemn both her claim and her failure to acknowledge that she has insulted and  disrespected the Cherokee people, the Native American population and the  American public.

There is more to come.  Trust me on that one.

Update:  You know she’s in trouble when she’s losing Boston Magazine, Elizabeth Warren: The Cherokee Fable That Won’t Go Away:

If Warren doesn’t somehow own up, this mess, and not just her recipes in Pow Wow Chow, may leave a bad taste in voters’ mouths in November … if she makes it that far. It is on the verge of becoming part of how voters internalize her persona, like when Martha Coakley called Curt Schilling a Yankee fan. It showed that Coakley was clueless and a bit of a detached elitist. That’s what is now at stake for Warren.


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Scott Brown must think of Ma Warren as the gift that keeps on giving!

Frank Scarn | May 21, 2012 at 2:26 pm

GOPers can go with Liar-watha,

The no-lefty-is-bad-so-long-as-big-and-even-bigger-government-results crowd (which includes all Democrats) can go with Poke-us/Haunt-us.

Both accurately describe Granny Warren.

“This is a race that is a dead heat,” said state Democratic Party chairman John Walsh, citing a recent poll and insisting the flap has had no effect on Warren’s standing as the party’s front-runner. He said no one is talking about replacing her. “It’s not a sentiment that is out there at all.”

I wonder how many of MA’s 86% white residents have felt Affirmative Action has been abused causing their sons and daughters to be denied admission to a school or to have lost a job opportunity by fakers like Warren. Putting that aside for a moment, the liberals who would vote for Warren in blind obligation to the Democrats should be demanding Warren be replaced on the ticket.

If I were a betting woman I would bet the ranch the outrageous outrage of the liberals in MA starts as soon as polling shows she is a loser. Head-to-head polling now is pretty meaningless btw.

    Ragspierre in reply to Mary Sue. | May 21, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Read someone noting the tension between “town and gown” in Massive-Two-Spits, and how this is really NOT working well for Warren among actual “working people” in that poor, benighted place.

      Mary Sue in reply to Ragspierre. | May 21, 2012 at 2:54 pm

      In my gut, I think what you read is dead on. The elites in the party really don’t get that people feel their good nature is stepped on by Affirmative Action. Warren now is the poster child of AA abuse. If they want to stick by her, it is fine by me. It’s really only a matter of time before the town vs gown split shows up in the polls anyway.

        RobM in reply to Mary Sue. | May 21, 2012 at 5:38 pm

        Mary Sue, you incorrectly name E. Warren as the poster child of AA abuse. You omit our SCOAMF Prezzy of the United Steezzzie. Though a minority for sure, he is the most accomplished AA/PC product ever produced. He is the product of a system at odds with the spirit of America as founded.

    persecutor in reply to Mary Sue. | May 21, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    If all he’s admitting to at this point is a dead heat, then I’d say she’s down by about 3 or 4.

      Mary Sue in reply to persecutor. | May 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm

      Real Clear Politics average has Brown up right now by six-tenths of a point. That reflects a PPP poll showing Warren up by 5. Here is the interesting point since we all know PPP can be suspect but enjoys a nice reputation among political scientists… I follow a bunch of these statistical geeks on twitter and noticed that some have started questioning ppp’s results. It started by their noting Rasmussen has fallen more in line with other pollsters to which several pointed out that PPP is now the pollster out of line with the others. I found that quite interesting.

      This all goes to underscore your point that Brown is probably already ahead by 3 possibly 4.

    PhillyGuy in reply to Mary Sue. | May 21, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Well I suppose you look at it that way. Another way is that despite massive amounts of negative press, she’s still close. I have a hard time believing that in Massachusetts that the Democrat would lose. So I’m thinking she is holding her own despite this heritage issue. The debates will be far more important in this race.

    PhillyGuy in reply to Mary Sue. | May 21, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    The state is overwhelmingly Democrat. Let’s wait and see before we start punching Brown’s name as a hold.

      Mary Sue in reply to PhillyGuy. | May 21, 2012 at 7:18 pm

      It’s way too early to get cocky about this election, I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I’d say she is holding her own because a lot of folks are just not paying attention yet. Even if Brown has a legit 3-4 pt lead that is in the margin of error. We have a long to go but there’s no denying the Prog Princess does as well.

The only way we can keep people honest about these various claims to a certain racial ancestry would be to adopt something akin to Nazi Germany’s Nuremberg laws. The government could then have official records of the racial ancestries of all citizens. Moreover, the government could establish rules as to who could claim what background. For example, I believe that in Nazi Germany if you were merely 1/32 Jewish and the rest of your “blood” was Aryan, you would be considered Aryan.

If we were uncertain about how to classify someone, I believe that there were very scientific cranial examination procedures. Elizabeth Warren is already onto this, relying on her pawpaw’s “high cheek bones.”

Of course, now we would flip the Nuremberg laws on their head and the focus would be on who was lucky enough not to be an Aryan, but it’s the same idea!

More (totally authentic Native American) POPCORN…!!!

When Frank Lautenberg, senator form NJ, retired a few years ago, the democrat that ran to replace him was doing very poorly in poling against the republican candidate. So the dems dumped their nominee and ran Lautenberg in his place. Lautenberg won and remains a part of the permanent political class that we all love and trust so very much.

    Yeah. Bob “The Torch” Torricelli was looking at an indictment.
    The Democrats got the New Jersey Supremes to utterly ignore the law on filing dates to get Frank Lautenberg, who had so completely retired that they named a train station after him, to run in his stead.

Yup, well, Warren is following the sound con man advice. No matter how extreme the lie, no matter how unassailable the proof otherwise, just stick to it. Because if you show ANY weakness or back-peddling or excuse-making, they’ll go for blood, whereas if you just blatantly keep repeating the falsehood, eyes might widen, but no one really knows how to handle that. Keep repeating it, and the need of people to believe that others are sane will have them doubting themselves instead. And after a while, having got you to not budge a whit, they will give up.

“There is more to come. Trust me on that one.”


I am a Democrat and that statement just gave me a really bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. Egads, what more is there to come???

Maybe I should just stop reading this blog…oh, the horror of watching the Democrats slowly hang themselves on this one, and all the conservatives keep doing is just handing them more rope…and laughing.

It’s like a train wreck, I can’t look away.

    gs in reply to Cassie. | May 21, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    1. To, um, reach across the aisle, Cassie, I feel your pain. For a quarter-century I’ve been watching smug Republicans squander the Reagan legacy.

    2. It should be a consolation to you—it’s the opposite to me—that it’s not the Democrats who are called the Stupid Party.

    3. The Intrade odds on the race are pretty much dead even. MA has elected bigger scoundrels than Warren to high office, and I don’t mean just Teddy Kennedy. Even against a self-destructive candidate like Martha Coakley, Brown only won by five points. That was with all-out support from a Tea Party which, very foolishly IMO, Brown has since proceeded to ignore: an arrogant omission which is far worse than not voting their way.

    4. Btw, yours truly drew attention to the potential analogy with NJ almost two weeks ago.

The vast right wing conspiracy is so vast that before Paleface Warren was ever born we knew that it was a lie to claim Cherokee heritage where there is none.

She needs to point out to the good citizens of Boston that the people who dumped a load of tea into Boston harbor weren’t real Indians either and, because she is a woman, she shouldn’t be held to a higher standard.

Remembering Robin Gibbs also helps us recall that he and the other Brothers Gibbs told us that “all the lights went out in Massachusetts.”

“Spitting Bull”, how low can you go……….

The problem with replacing Warren is that she has raised over $10 million so far, and there just isn’t anyone else who could come close to it, with the possible exception of Vicki Kennedy (who showed no interest in 2010 or since).

There is no reason on earth Warren would turn over her war chest if dumped – as long as she holds no federal office, she can use the money for political activities, travel, and expenses, and even draw a salary from her “campaign.” Just ask Christine O’Donnell and Herman Cain how that works.

Finally, the deadline for signatures is June 5th, and no one is collecting any yet. It’s getting to the point where there is just no time.

Warren’s standing isn’t likely to go up as the election gets closer, either.

Who CARES if she ‘apologizes?’ And even if she did, who is ‘accepting’ it? Just toss her out, like the trash she is.

JackRussellTerrierist | May 23, 2012 at 4:04 am

If Brown wins, it’ll be because Taxachesettsans like him, not because they disapprove of Warren and her phony BS and lies.

And that’s a comment on blue states in general, not Brown or Warren. Corruption, deception, and lack of ethics mean nothing to their citizens.