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How long before Dems call OWS a Rovian plot?

How long before Dems call OWS a Rovian plot?

So far, Democrats are going all in on the Occupy Wall Street movement, with the DNC even cirulating a petition in support.  Obama is trying to harness the energy for his campaign.

That will change if plans for an OWS national convention take place next summer, signifying that OWS is a third force.

As outlined at Business Insider, OWS plans a convention on July 4 with delegates from every congressional district, to take on both parties.  The declaration includes, among other things:

7. The final 99% Declaration and Petition of Grievances, after being voted upon by the 870 Delegates to the National General Assembly, will be formally presented by  the 870 Delegates to all three branches of government and all candidates running  for federal public office in November 2012. Thus, the Delegates would meet from
July 4, 2012 to sometime in early to late October 2012 so that the Petition of  Grievances may be presented prior to the election.

There is no indication OWS is going to run third party candidates, but it represents a mortal electoral threat to Democrats:

  • If Democrats accept the demands of the OWS convention, they will align themselves with fringe elements who turn off the political center; if Democrats reject the demands, they will alienate a key part of their base which will stay home in November 2012.  It is lose-lose.
  • The OWS convention and follow up will sap strength from the Democratic Party and Obama campaign, and divert media attention away from whatever message Obama is trying to send at the time to what will be a media circus in Philadelphia on Independence Day.
  • In November 2012, the country will face a choice not between Democrats and Republicans, but between the anarchist/socialist OWS coalition and Republicans.

Richard Nixon could not have dreamed up such a promising electoral scenario.  Only Karl Rove could.

How long before Democrats come to regret OWS, and claim OWS is some diabolical Rovian plot?

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At this point, the DNC needs a 3rd party candidate that will split the Republican vote. Clinton was elected under these conditions. The number say that Obama needs to make 42% a winning number.

It will be interesting to see if privately, the DNC starts to promote a Libertarian candidate.

It would be a problem for the Dems, to be sure, but I have a feeling that OWS will mostly disappear long before July. If it survives, it will be either as a brand, if you will, for actions organized by unions and others who want to pressure Obama but not hurt him — OR as a vestigial bunch of the usual radicals. If the latter, they will cease to get media attention and might as well convene at Communist Party headquarters.

Only if some remotely suitable candidate — say, Dennis Kucinich — decides to run against Obama in some primaries would Obama have a serious problem.

The Dems have made a mistake by encouraging anti-establishment demonstrations when they themselves are the establishment. The worried people who actually have some vigor are going to bleed off into the TEA Parties, and the Dems will keep their paid union supporters right up to the voting booth.

Americans don’t like fraud.

How long before Democrats come to regret OWS, and claim OWS is some diabolical Rovian plot?

10-9-8-7…

On the other hand, the time line is perfect. Sow the seeds of discontent all summer, create big disturbances early fall and O can declare martial law, doing away with the election.

    beloved2 in reply to pibill. | October 15, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Yep, that’s why the administration and George Soros’ groups are promoting OWS. Soros will keep on agitating the rabblerousers until he can stuff the ballot box and continue the reign of terror now occupying the WH. That plan is so obvious. Attorney D’Onofrio at www.http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
    “…However, if Obama attempts to suspend the election or otherwise retain the White House after losing in 2012, then the eligibility issue has an exponentially greater chance of being litigated before the DC District Court by Writ of Quo Warranto, and finally ending up in the US Supreme Court.

    Unfortunately, I truly believe we are headed for a national moment of intense Constitutional conflict. There are provisions of the Patriot Act and various Executive orders which allow for martial law scenarios to unfold. If there is an emergency (real or imagined), the Obama might invoke such laws to declare martial law, suspend elections, and incarcerate alleged enemies of the state.

    If a truly eligible President were operating under any of those dangerous powers, it might be difficult to impeach him. Should Obama avail himself of such draconian measures, the only argument available to remove him may be that he was never eligible to be POTUS. Such a determination would render his entire administration void, which is very different from impeachment. This is why, should the issue ever reach the Supreme Court, it becomes imperative that Justices Kagan and Sotomayor recuse themselves. Their appointments could be nullified if Obama’s administration is voided which would cause them to have a personal stake in the outcome. (For a more thorough explanation as to the fallout of voiding a government office, as opposed to removal via impeachment or expulsion, see my previous report on Quo Warranto and comments thereto specifically noting precedent in the Senate.)…”
    Just ask 789 Chrysler dealers where their franchises went. Their private property was taken and given to others. And a foreign corporation from a socialist nation was gifted an American institution at the cost of $23 billion to the US taxpayer. Fiat paid nothing for Chrysler, not one dime. This was done at the insistence of Obama who demanded that no American company was capable of turning Chrysler around. I didn’t see one single protestor on that one.

    I pray that Chrysler is not a blueprint of things to come… to your door, and inside your house.

    by Leo Donofrio, Esq….”

    Attorney Ann Coulter has an interestingly clever editorial at http://www.anncoulter.com contrasting the OWS with the Tea Party. Her conclusion: “…They are not in the tradition of the tea partiers, much less our founding fathers. They are not in the tradition of the civil rights movement or Operation Rescue. They are in the tradition of Shays’ Rebellion, the Weathermen and Charles Manson….”

Little OT. OK, a LOT..

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I think that Sarah Palin is trying to beat them to the punch.
As you know she recently changed her Facebook status to indicate Conservative instead of Republican.
I do not think she is trying to split anything, just give more voice to the conservative wing of the the GOP and to strengthen it now, in face of rising media attention to the left’s OWS. More a reminder than a statement.
I think that this one move of hers can be made more powerful than any made up by media on the Left if it is used in the proper intent.
Soros Media combined with VanJones-based Leftist groups are trying to craft a narrative and trying to spin gold out of thin air as it were, to wean some percentage of the electorate to that base.
I think a Conservative Bloc push on the right is not only more reflective of reality but it is Required at this time.
You won’t see RedState or HotAir or DailyCaller helping, it is up to the remaining Palinistas and Tea Party patriots and Conservatives to craft the message and carve out the Bloc.
We have people in DC to push and we can back Cantor, DeMint, Paul, Rubio Issa Grassley etc to help get Congress back into the proper business rather than the mire that Democrat rule has left it from back in 2006.
We got the House back in the last election and they are passing bills now, but the Senate still being in Leftist control means that government is still broken.
The Conservative Bloc can win because it has true grassroots backing and energy.
The money backed left will try to foist off more and more as November 2012 approaches and will try to use the media to push their narrative. It is not going to win in the end, but they need to have their timing exactly right in order to pull the most support they can at the appropiate time, and pushing Conservatives now disrupts that agenda and timeline.

For what it’s worth … Our office is across the street from City Hall in L.A. The OWS crowd has a little tent city set up on the front lawn of city hall and when you step outside their megaphone ramblings assault your ears.

Every single Democrat I work with loathes them. They consider them an irritating freak show.

Yesterday, a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat woman I work with came back from her cigarette break outside. She complained that they were saying all kinds of crazy and sometimes profane stuff.

I kid you not … She then said, “He started talking about people having sex with animals!” … I repeat, I kid you not.

I told my coworkers about the “sex with animals” youtube video that already existed … not a single one had heard of it … nor had a single one of them heard of the anti-Semitic incidents … the MSM is averting its gaze, and thus the gaze of people who rely upon it for their news.

OWS-L.A.

This woman is eager to give her name and employer’s name (Los Angeles Unified School District) and her anti-Semitic views.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/14/anti-semitic-protester-at-occu

Do you notice how all the camera shots are very tight, making it look like thousands of people are participating for the last month? Yet I hear on TALK RADIO that it’s only about 200 people on a usual day.

They say that 60 delivery trucks a day pull up at the park to deposit all kinds of goodies to the stinking sufferers. I can’t figure out who’s stupider. The people sending the trucks or the people requesting the fresh veggies and baby wipes who obviously don’t work but may have sources of income like meltdown boy who’s a trust fund baby.

What’s scary about all this is that there are so many nutjobs out there willing to participate in such anti-social behavior. Watch the tapes of the collectivist language they’ve developed, and you feel like you’re watching a bad Hollywood idiocracy incarnation of society.

But wait.

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DINORightMarie | October 15, 2011 at 2:09 pm

@LukeHandCool, @Perryberry – there is a solution to the MSM propaganda:

You know, I see a PRIME opportunity for someone with a little tech savvy and some MONEY (the latter of which I lack, alas) to take some of the video clips of this, photos, and a list of the international publications decrying this attrocity called #OWS and make both a You Tube short, and a 30 second micro-short for commercial broadcast. Even make a documentary of this. Do SOMETHING to counter the MSM agitprop, to let people know what is really happening, who these people really are, and that THIS is what Democrats support!

Tie in the visuals to San Fran Nan, Slick Willie, Obama, Biden, etc., saying they SUPPORT this cr*p!!(clips of their comments, with source info on screen)

Tag line/hook: “Is THIS what the DNC supports?” and/or “So this is the face of the Democrat Party?!”

The material to create this is everywhere. Fair use limits will allow short snips, and most of this is online and not copyright protected, from what I’ve seen; this could be VERY POWERFUL to reveal the truth of this astroturf “movement.”

It is time to confront the DNC and Democrats on this, to expose them, and hold them accountable!

I know there are Conservative and Republican video graphic patriots out there – how about getting some funding and BLAST this truth to the masses!! It’s time to do something positive for our side from this rich madness.

    DINORightMarie in reply to DINORightMarie. | October 15, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    My idea is very similar to what the Emergency Committee for Israel video, but with a wider view that exposes more than just the antisemitic hate (which, as you note, @Luke, is news to most). Including, but not limited to: the defecating protestor, the call for violent revolution, the stepping on the flag, the Hitler signs, just to list a few.

    The Emergency Committee for Israel video is excellent, by the way, and well worth sharing. 🙂

      LukeHandCool in reply to DINORightMarie. | October 15, 2011 at 4:26 pm

      @DINORigghtMarie

      You’re right as usual, Marie. OWS is providing a lot of material for the GOP to use in ads.

      LukeHandCool (who is a fan of DINORightMarie’s fighting spirit)

    DINORightMarie in reply to DINORightMarie. | October 15, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Oops. That should have been @Perryburg, not @Perryberry.

    My apologies. 🙁

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | October 15, 2011 at 2:29 pm

OWS is the base of the Democratic Party. After LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of ’64 and the Voting Rights Act of ’65, the party leadership “knew” the Democratic Party was going to lose support in the south. So they intentionally embraced every fringe element of society to build a coalition to help them win elections: black nationalists, radical feminists; environmental extremists; homosexual activists; far-left Marxist professors; student anti-war protesters (which is especially rich considering JFK started the Vietnam War and LBJ escalated it), etc.

That strategy repulsed the neo-cons like Midge Decker, Norm Podhoretz, and Irving Kristol who bolted from the Democratic Party in the late ’70s and early ’80s. It’s why Jeanne Kirkpatrick bolted in ’84. It’s why religious leaders like Pat Robertson bolted from the Democratic Party.

Bill Clinton and those close to him tried to recruit more moderates by founding the Democrat Leadership Council. But the party doesn’t want to be moderate as illustrated by the fact that the DLC is now defunct. It had to fold its tent and ceased operations a year or two ago.

But recruiting the far-left fringe has been a boon to progressivism. The Progressive Caucus in the House has gone from only 6 members in 1990 to 79 today and, amazingly, lost only one net seat in the 2010 “shellacking”. What started out as tactic to recruit the fringe to help win elections has morphed into the fringe becoming the base of the Party.

http://thatsmycongress.com/index.php/2010/11/15/progressive-caucus-expands-influence-within-house-democrats/

Then there’s this from 2004:

In a December 9th e-mail signed by “Eli Pariser, Justin Ruben, and the whole MoveOn PAC team,” the Soros front group stated: “In the last year, grassroots contributors like us gave more than $300 million to the Kerry campaign and the DNC, and proved that the Party doesn’t need corporate cash to be competitive. Now it’s our Party: we bought it, we own it, and we’re going to take it back.”

There you have it. The far-left kooks at MoveOn admit they bought and paid for the Democratic Party.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=10256

OWS is the base of the current Democratic Party, it’s just that alot of people aren’t paying attention. Barack Obama perfectly reflects the current Democratic Party. He’s a community organizer rabble rouser with ties to the Working Families Party, the socialist New Party, ACORN, and black liberation theology. The Party chose him and rejected as their nominee an establishment Democrat and former First Lady.

Hoisted on their own petard …LOL ….ah ya gotta love the irony of ignorance

I still get a lot of material from the DNC as well as the DCCC, especially for donations, as I’ve donated a lot to them in the past.

I also received many prepaid donation envelops, I plan on sending it back asking them to defend these people, because this is the new democratic party. Which is why I left in 2008. They would not allow Truman, JFK into this far left party, there are no conservative dems, they are all now independents, like me.

“How long before Democrats come to regret OWS, and claim OWS is some diabolical Rovian plot?”

It isn’t? ;-p

“O can declare martial law, doing away with the election”

I have no doubt he’d like to try, pibill, but I have a hard time believing the military would go along with it. Perhaps he thinks he can use the ATF?

The 99% White OWS is going to have a convention? Will they invite David Duke?

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