Schneiderman’s Resignation Leaves Democrats Pouting and Pointing Fingers at Trump
Why do people hate politics? This is why
Democrats are mourning the political loss of resistance fighter and New York AG, Eric Schneiderman, who resigned in disgrace Monday night.
Ronan Farrow (who is kicking ass and taking names) along with Jane Mayer were first to report allegations made by four women, all who claim Schneiderman was physically abusive. At least one of the women was not romantically involved with the now former AG. Three of the relationships were consensual, but the alleged violence was not.
Schneiderman blew off the allegations as nothing more than role-playing. Both Farrow and the women making the allegations disagree. “I just want to relate the message of one of these women — and it was a shared sentiment among this group — that this was not role-playing, that this was not ‘Fifty Shades of Grey,'” Farrow told CNN.
While Republicans like Kellyanne Conway are gloating that a hyper partisan and allegedly abusive AG is no longer in play:
Gotcha. https://t.co/a3NPal4z9X
— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) May 8, 2018
Democrats are sucking their thumbs, claiming Republicans are hypocrites for standing by Trump.
Case in point: Morning Joe, who spent an entire segment talking about Republican hypocrisy. I mean, really? One of the Democrat’s favorite #MeToo men who pushed a no choking law resigned after accusations he choked and beat women.
Worse still, Democrats pressured Schneiderman’s victims to keep quiet “because they thought that he had the power to do too much good for the Democratic Party,” said Farrow.
And they weren’t the only ones acting as though the Democrats are pure and chaste whilst Republicans run amock:
Schneiderman's resignation is a victory for anyone committed to seeing all abusers removed from power. For those who supported Roy Moore and continue to stand behind Donald Trump, celebrating his downfall is nothing more than ghoulish pettiness framed as moral righteousness. Bye. pic.twitter.com/rPuKcoOFt2
— Lauren Duca (@laurenduca) May 8, 2018
-Schneiderman resigned three hours after sexual assault accusations surfaced.
-Roy Moore kept running for Senate all the way to his defeat.
-Eric Greitens is still fighting to remain Governor of Missouri.
-Trump remains in the White House.
That is the difference.
— Patrick S. Tomlinson (@stealthygeek) May 8, 2018
.@KellyannePolls, delete your account. pic.twitter.com/bh5OcgaZtu
— Planned Parenthood Action (@PPact) May 8, 2018
Why do people hate politics? This is why:
CAN'T MAKE THIS UP:
Both Harvey Weinstein & Eric Schneiderman were at the Women's March, orchestrated by convicted terrorist Rasmea Odeh & Linda Sarsour, who's tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, while Madonna said she wanted to blow up the White House.
This is the democrat party.
— #ThePersistence (@ScottPresler) May 8, 2018
“Your hypocrite is worse than our hypocrite” is not a winning recipe for changing hearts and minds.
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How dare Trump make this paragon of honesty and truth beat up women! Has he no shame?
Time to take names then.
“Eric Schneiderman’s legalized shakedowns made him the 6th Mafia family of New York”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/eric-schneidermans-legalized-shakedowns-made-him-the-6th-mafia-family-of-new-york
Indeed, Shneiderman’s use of the office as a partisan weapon is far more disturbing than his possibly criminal personal behaviors.
How can the legal guild not take some action against a civil servant who allowed innocent citizens die in prison for crimes they did not commit, (looking at you Mulleur)? To me that is a more egregious transgression against the country than perverts in office, as bad as they are.
Sorry, but an adult male having consensual sex with an adult female is nowhere close to an adult male beating up his girlfriend.
“an adult male having consensual sex with an adult female is nowhere close to an adult male beating up his girlfriend.”
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman You’re entitled to disbelieve the allegations against Schneiderman, but you’re not entitled to misrepresent them.
I think what the poster was trying to get across was the difference between what Trump is currently being accused of, which is of having consensual sex with a porn star who bragged about it, and Schneiderman who was just beating up his little brown slavegirl.
Or at least that’s the moral comparison Morning Joe was trying to make.
What’s fun is to read nutcases like Louise Mensch. She (seriously) was going on today about how the entire #MeToo movement was created by Vladimir Putin to help Trump. She takes the whole concept of “deranged” to levels that most people haven’t even thought possible.
Exactly, Though I did read something a day or two ago that put that $130K payment in a different light than many might have considered. Apparently (and I believe this to be true) when you make Forbes list or win the lottery people come out of the woodwork wanting money or they’re going to “destroy” you with rumor, innuendo and outright lies.
Apparently there is a payment scale. $100K or thereabout is a “nothing happened now shut up and go away after you sign this NDA” payment.
If you actually had sex the “hush money” is more on the order of a million. If there was an illegitimate child, thing 10 times that much . . .
When I saw the amount alleged when it first was breaking I thought the payment was pretty low for a wealthy man like Trump. This would explain it and the follow up talk that has happened. You don’t like to advertise that you make these kinds of payments as you would be inundated with them and pay out tons of money for nothing.
Legal fees for something even false would likely run higher than this kind of payout, so that is why they do it.
They act like the adolescent weirdos they are.
Having a consensual romp in the hay with an “adult film actress” may be immoral, although completely legal. Paying her to keep quiet is quite legal. Assaulting your partner to satisfy some sick sexual perversion is both immoral and illegal. Assaulting your partner while claiming to be the #MeToo champion makes you an immoral, hypocritical, sanctimonious, perverted criminal.
That is the distinction, Mr. Scarborough.
Schneiderman blew off the allegations as nothing more than role-playing.
Strangely enough, this is a “thing”, and not just among the New York “intelligentsia”. Whether it has any relevance here depends on the timelines (which we don’t have).
If she packed up and left that night, it’s probably not a game, no matter what he says. (Leaving for good the next morning would be close enough.)
If she stayed with him after the incident, then he’s probably right, it was “role-playing”, no matter what she now says.
Fortunately, since he’s not fighting it, we need not delve into the grotty details.
This all usually happened when he was drunk, and they were in bed together. ZTo say that the women should have left implies that there are never such things as battered women.
He is also reported to have threatened to kill both named women, and to sic law enforcement (wiretaps etc) on one of them.
To say that the women should have left implies that there are never such things as battered women.
Nonsense.
And I’m not saying anyone should have done anything. I’m pointing that that whether they stuck around for more—or refused to do so—is not irrelevant.
Turns out Eric really didcne #metoo!!
Tomlinson should stick to third-rate science fiction. He’s clearly over his head when it comes to political insight.
I suppose Schneiderman is glad that the “no choking” law is not in place yet.
After those women get through with him, he is going to be choking his chicken for a long time.
78.The peculiar thing about this is:
How did Ronan Farrow find out about this?
None of these women knew each other.
My guess is that there was somebody in the State legislature handling these kinds of things for the members, (and don’t think this did not help some lobbyists) who maybe may have moved into private poractice more recently.
So there was someone or some PR firm or law firm or campaign consultant to whom Schneiderman must have reported these things.
This reeks of a limited hangout. Something much worse is lurking beneath the surface.
According to the original story in the New Yorker, one of the women is a friend of a staff wrier at the New Yorker who compared notes with a friend of a friend of the other woman. I thought it sounded a little self-serving when I read it, but it did name names, and there were injuries that were treated by doctors. So, there’s verifiable detail.
78.The peculiar thing about this is:
How did Ronan Farrow find out about this?
None of these women knew each other.
My guess is that there was somebody in the State legislature handling these kinds of things for the members, (and don’t think this did not help some lobbyists) who maybe may have moved into private poractice more recently.
So there was someone or some PR firm or law firm or campaign consultant to whom Schneiderman must have reported these things.
Only three things seem possible:
1. It was leaked by someone for some purpose – maybe to stop an investigation, or get someone the job as Attorney General.
OR
2. Some low level people at this political consulting/legal defense/PR firm which had all of Scheneiderman’s secrets came to know of it, but they were bound by confidentiality agreements and/or attorney-client privilege, so they couldn’t leak it themselves, and they got one or more women to come forward.
OR
3. The allegations are false. Except Eric Shneiderman didn’t act like they were false – he was just limiting himself to saying they were non-criminal. And he had a prepared defense to charges nobody had ever heard of. And then he resigned very quickly. Much faster than Anthony Weiner or Eliot Spitzer.
Farrow published the article about Weinstein and the whole “MeToo” thing blew up. Women have been coming out of the woodwork to lodge accusations. These might be some of those women who saw Schneiderman being too pious and sanctimonious for all the skeletons in his closet.
“3. The allegations are false. Except Eric Shneiderman didn’t act like they were false – he was just limiting himself to saying they were non-criminal. And he had a prepared defense to charges nobody had ever heard of. And then he resigned very quickly. Much faster than Anthony Weiner or Eliot Spitzer.”
And if he had acted like they were false, what difference did it make? Accusation = guilt in #MeToo land.
The thing that makes the allegations against Schneiderman credible is simple: two of the women went, at the time, and got medical treatment for injuries from the encounters. That means that there is the possibility of recent, independent, physical, corroborative evidence gathered by third parties whose backgrounds can be checked.
There was NOT ONE SHRED of such evidence against Judge Moore. A yearbook that was an obvious forgery, 30+ year old memories that were disputed by those in a position to know (mall manager saying no one banned Mr Moore as claimed), etc.
That’s good enough for someone like Rags, who follows the Harry Reid standard (“he didn’t win, right?”), but not for an actual justice system.
When you SCREAM a lie, it’s still a lie.
There was ample evidence against Moore for people to decide to vote for him or not. The most damning was the fact that he lies. But there certainly is a lot more.
This is another of those instances where your insanity drives you to slime me when I never posted to a thread. You’re driven by hatred to actual insanity.
“Justice” is beyond the law, as I’ve pointed out here many times. You’re about to see the outcome of a legal process. I doubt you’ll like it.
“When you SCREAM a lie, it’s still a lie.”
SDN:
“There was NOT ONE SHRED of such evidence against Judge Moore.”
Loud enough. Some lawyer. “NOT ONE SHRED”
But SDN lies, as do you.
As does and did Moore.
We have been told on numerous occasions that the women coming out of the woodwork to accuse Donald Trump of sexual assault, harassment and racism are doing so now only because of his new position in life. After decades of silence, the surge of accusations the appeared when he decided to run for POTUS as a Republican are in no way to be considered suspicious.
Listen and believe. That’s what we were told. Well… listen and believe, Sammy.
As for Donald Trump’s tweet, it might ahve been a shot in the dark, based on the fact that both Anthony Weiner and liot Spitzer (I’m not sure about Schneiderman but maybe) Donald Trump felt that way since he was a target of Schneiderman) were both very aggressive and accusative toward others. And maybe he also knew of Schneiderman’s interest in women.
Until Trump had the unmitigated gaul to think himself just as good as any member of our Ruling Political Class, he was quite popular with the pols of both party, as a rich guy who could be hit up for donations. So he received a lot of invites to affairs where a lot of drunk “elites” would behave badly and trash talk about that guy over there.
But Trump is a tea-totaller because of a family history of alcoholism.
Trump, like Obama, or Hillary, often fancies himself as the smartest person in the room. In his case, it may well have often been true, not hard to be TSPITR when everyone else is hitting the sauce and hitting it hard.
Its not too surprising if The Donald managed to see or hear scuttlebutt about a bunch of “elites” and their bad behavior – pretty much every #metoo “scandle” was actually common knowledge, if only second hand, among Our Betters who default position was to not make waves or be the initial whistle-blower.
Every single bad behavior the MSM has attributed to Trump?
He’s seen them cover up for the “elites” ridding the Get Trump Bus.
Macron?
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From 2017 Vanity Fair article: “…Mueller has teamed up w/NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office. Mueller and Schneiderman have reportedly begun sharing evidence from their parallel probes into Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman.”
Wonder if eric was calling mueller his white slave and telling mueller to call him Master.
Do not lose sight of where this attack came from. it did not come from a conservative or even a Republican source. It came from a uber-liberal source, The New Yorker. And, it came out just as Schneiderman’s reelection campaign was gearing up. This was simply a case of liberal/Progressives eating one of their own. Whether Schneiderman deserved it or not is superfluous. There is a reason why so many national politicians have suddenly decided to retire in 2017 an 2018. And, I do not think it is because they are afraid of being assassinated by political loons.
Perhaps when any prominent male blows hard on the #MeToo horn, we should regard that as a confession.
Let’s try that again! This time in English!!
Turns out Schneiderman really did mean it when he said #metoo!!
What an moronically ironic statement, that he could do “too much good for the Democratic Party”. Nothing we’ve seen for the last 75 years from the Democrat party indicates that they in any way can do ANY good … and the same holds true when applied to the more moderate of the Republicans (RINOs).