Elizabeth Warren Dances Around Condemnation of Antifa
“Violence is not the way to go.”
Don’t look now but someone in the media finally asked a Democrat to comment on Antifa. Tim Dunn of WBSM Radio in New Bedford gave Elizabeth Warren a chance to condemn Antifa and she failed miserably.
One has to wonder why Warren would even want to condemn Antifa. Many of these masked thugs are her ideological children from the Occupy movement. When pressed by Dunn, Warren twice turned the conversation back to the narrative that President Trump condoned white supremacists in Charlottesville.
Here’s a transcript via Frank Camp of the Daily Wire:
DUNN: After specifically condemning the KKK, neo-Nazis, and other white supremacist groups following Charlottesville, President Trump drew criticism from some suggesting that both sides were responsible for the violence on Saturday. Absent the presence of white nationalists, left-wing protesters threw bottles of urine and rocks at police officers. The same occurred last night in Phoenix following the president’s rally. Are you prepared to condemn violence on that part of the left-wing agitators, such as Antifa, as you have the right-wing, white nationalist group? “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon,” “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!” are some of the things they’ve chanted. Do you care to comment on that?
WARREN: Violence is not the way to go. Violence is not the way to advance our interests. But let’s be really clear about what Donald Trump did. He said that there were a lot of good people marching with Nazis and white supremacists. Those are not good people when they march with Nazis and white supremacists, period.
DUNN: Is Antifa, those people we saw on the Boston Common, are they good people?
WARREN: I didn’t see them marching. What I saw were people who are Nazis and white supremacists. And Donald Trump said those are good people marching with them. They are not good people.
DUNN: But referring to the Boston Common, I mean, 40,000, the peaceful demonstrators versus the very littl e—
WARREN: People who march with Nazis and white supremacists are not good people.
The video below is cued to begin at the 5:37 mark. Just press play:
If Trump supporters were showing up at events dressed in black, donning masks and beating people up, you better believe the media would be asking every elected Republican in the country to denounce it.
Democrats are being given a pass on Antifa by the media which is itself defending the violent group in some cases.
Quite a change from the media’s coverage of the Tea Party under Obama, isn’t it?
According to a report in Twitchy, Antifa members in Berkeley this weekend chanted, “No Trump, no wall, no USA at all.” Doesn’t that warrant condemnation?
Current antifa chant in Berkeley: "This is for Charlottesville;" prior, "No Trump, no wall, no USA at all." pic.twitter.com/Z4nnzfXQ8G
— Pamela Larson (@PamReporting) August 27, 2017
Have any Republican or Democrat leaders publicly denounced #Antifa yet?
Have any MSM sought their statements yet?
Why not? pic.twitter.com/4qV3Uqrmbz
— Dr. Milton Wolf (@MiltonWolfMD) August 28, 2017
#Antifa was literally chanting:
"No Trump, no Wall, NO USA AT ALL."
Is it really too much for the @GOP and @TheDemocrats to denounce them?
— Dr. Milton Wolf (@MiltonWolfMD) August 28, 2017
Antifa chants, "No Trump, no wall, no USA at all." The label "anti-American" is not a pejorative, it's just descriptive.
— Jim Geraghty (@jimgeraghty) August 28, 2017
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The default position of the Left will always be violence. The way to stop the Left is with casualties…theirs.
More Dem leaders have to be put on the spot like this.
The Antifa are growing more violent every time they show up somewhere..
The whole “it’s Trump’s fault” BS is starting to wear thin, Lizzy..
I saw what you did there.
I think David French has it about right…
“There is no apologetic for Marxist violence.”
David French is usually right.
I have never understood why the outrage, as there should be, over the barbaric murders of millions by the Nazis but so little mention, or outrage, about the communist killings.
Mao killed perhaps 45 million of his own people. No one knows the exact number for sure.
Uncle Joe Stalin was responsible for the deaths of 20 million people in labor camps, forced collectivization, famine and executions.
I wonder how many of our liberal educated college students even know about the “socialist” killings as they prance around in the “Che” t-shirts.
Two reasons:
1. Germany lost the war, and thus had no hand in writing the histories; the USSR won the war, so it was better able to control the aftermath. Also the USSR was “on our side”, and we allowed it to be represented on the war crimes tribunals, exactly as if it deserved to be dispensing justice with us instead of sharing the dock with the defendants.
2. The opinion-making class, namely reporters, academics, teachers, and Hollywood, were and are heavily pro-communist and anti-nazi (except from 23-Aug-1939 to 22-Jun-1941).
I have not doubt that Lizzie Borden will endorse Auntie Fay.
That’s who she is.
Antifa = correctly pronounced Auntie Tom – serving their Democrat Party Slave Masters on the Democrat Plantation.
SNARK!
Typical politician – she can’t answer a straight yes or no question. Typical Democrat – she can’t answer a question without blaming Trump for something.
I’ve noticed a sudden media pivot against Antifa in the last couple of days, which I assume means that someone has polled this stuff and it’s electoral poison for Democrats. Which should come as no surprise, unless you live in a Media Bubble.
–Glenn Reynolds
I think this is right, but I’d add a reason…
The Black Bloc likes pictures, but not too close. They rely on anonymity, and are threatened with being identified. When news reporters or cameras get too close, they are driven off and bloodied, gear smashed.
One reason I strongly advocate laws prohibiting any kind of face coverings, or a simply, clear order from police to unmask or be arrested. And lots and lots of police photogs. Body cams would serve nicely, in part.
Virginia already has a law prohibiting facial masks in public. As with everything else they ignored, the Charlottesville PD conveniently let that go.
I don’t understand the point of your post.
If it was just to say that the Charlottesville authorities failed, that seems apparent.
If it’s something beyond that, make it clear, please.
Honest question, Dave. No intent to be spiky on my part.
I have a feeling the media’s brief love affair with the Antifa is coming to an end.
Yesterday an MSNBC article called them “Masked Anarchists.”
What? I thought they were brave Nazi punchers?
Whether they are described as “black bloc” or anarchists — the nomenclature isn’t important — the masked, black-clad protesters are criminals, not the vanguard of a righteous resistance to fascism. They also are traitors to the thousands of peaceful demonstrators who gathered in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Park to counter a “No to Marxism in America” rally — a non-event that drew a relatively small contingent of right-wingers after its organizer, fearing violence, had urged supporters to stay home.
The Associated Press reported that groups of hooded, black-clad protesters kicked and punched at least four men until police or other counter-protesters intervened. Some threatened to break the cameras of anyone who filmed them, including journalists.
The punches black bloc protesters are throwing are injuring their own side.
–LATime
Toldja…!!!
I heard she did a rain dance because TX voted for Trump
“People who march with Nazis and white supremacists are not good people.”
Agreed. And people who allow ‘antifa’ into their ranks and refuse to condemn them are not good people.
This Warren witch needs to resign from Congress.
What you and this clown don’t seem to understand is that the march was to prevent the destruction of Civil War monuments. There were many good well-intentioned people marching for that reason. I went to many TEA party rallies and not once did I ever think about anything to do with race or violence. Yet the msm painted all TEA party attendees as both. We have to be vigilant to not become parrots of the msm’s fake news.
There were two events in Charlottesville: The impromptu march on Friday night, which was ugly but peaceful, and the planned and publicized rally on Saturday, with its accompanying counter-demonstration, which turned violent. There were no good people at the march, and Trump did not suggest there were. There were good people at both demonstrations on Saturday, together with the very bad people at both, and Trump was right to point this out.
Had the conversation with local fascists here in Phoenix after the rally. They claimed the KKK march justified their violence. So I goggled, binged, and duckduck to find only stories about the march on Friday that it turned out to be only a rumor or a hoax. No pics, nothing! If you have anything, I would appreciate a link. They state with straight faces that using violence to shut someone up is A OK.
You must not have looked very hard. The Friday night march was no hoax, and there are plenty of photos and videos. It wasn’t entirely peaceful either, though nothing compared to what happened the next day.
Maybe it’s because I’m old but I’ve never understood how Democrats always get a “pass” on the violence committed from folks on their side of the fence but Republicans are always awarded the albatross of every fringe idiot from the right.
Hell, many of the groups awarded a “right-wing voice” by the media didn’t begin life as such. The KKK, Democrats. Nazi’s, we’re radical socialist who believed in social Darwinism not unlike the eugenics believes of the left in America. Neo-Nazis in America can’t possibly think the core of Republicans agree with them. Christ, for all the “they’re racist” claims every Republican president in my lifetime has appointed a healthy number of minorities to cabinet level positions and done so without the fanfare of, “look what we’ve done”. Even the most radical right wing groups aren’t preaching Republican ideas if you do an honest assessnent. These folks aren’t Conservative at all. I’ve never once heard one of there leaders mention Kirk, Burke, Locke, Chambers or even Buckley when they speak of social policy and I highly doubt ant of them would quite Friedman when speaking of economic policy! Republicans have even allowed the left to minimize Hamilton as a great Conservative mind.
Still it’s interesting to me that the Left waddled through the raindrops without acknowledging The Weather Underground, SDS, SLA, May 19th, United Front and the more current Occupy, Antifa and Blac Block. Yet were told a bunch of middle age, overweight, soccer parents in mini vans that largely made up the Tea Party are horrible, radical and proof Republicans are evil.
How fascinating it is, to me anyhow, to see the real propoganda of the media and left.
I agree 100%. Do you remember the one guy who yelled out “Kill obama” at one of Palin’s rallies and the msm asked every Republican of any stripe why they didn’t denounce her, not him? According to the msm and the Dems, it was her responsibility to not only condemn him but to see that he was found and prosecuted. But now, we have an entire gang of thugs who are masked, like the KKK, and exist for violence’s sake, but not one peep about justice or condemnation from any of the left or msm.
There shall be no evil on the Left. Not a joke to say that either.
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/08/29/berkeley-mayor-school-doesnt-shut-right-wing-speakers-next-month-antifa-will-riot/
“I obviously believe in freedom of speech, but there is a line between freedom of speech and then posing a risk to public safety,” the mayor said. “That is where we have to really be very careful — that while protecting people’s free-speech rights, we are not putting our citizens in a potentially dangerous situation and costing the city hundreds of thousands of dollars fixing the windows of businesses.”
Wul, yah. It’s YOUR job to hold that line via the use of the rule of law, dummy.
No conservative speaker “poses a risk to public safety”. ONLY the thugs of the AntiFA do that, and you know…or better know…how to shut that down. No conservative speaking will, per force, break any law by appearing. But you know damn good and well that AntiFA WILL, because that is their mode of operation.
HERE is where the civil rights lawsuit is filed, and injunctive relief pled for. Obtain an ORDER from the courts that mandates that officials keep the peace, and that they provide protection to the speaker(s), audience, and the property.
Fauxcahontas is – well – faux, and in every way.
If you think ‘antifa’ people are college students led astray, you need to see the photos of the street scum police recently arrested by police for antifa violence. Out of thirteen felons arrested, only one of them is college age:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/berkeley-police-arrest-13-protesters-in-connection-to-antifa-violence/
Seth Vazquez, 25, of Berkeley
Mark Misohink, 23, of Oakland
James Dominic, 23, of Oakland
Kristopher Wyrick, 39, of Alpine (San Diego County)
Harlan Pankau, 38, of Jamul (San Diego County)
Levi Smith, 32, of Sparks, Nevada
Sean Hines, 20, of Santa Rosa
Brittany Moorman, 26, of Oakland
Yesenia Mendez, 22, city unknown
Emily Gillespie, 22, of Berkeley
Sean Dougan, 47, of Portland, Oregon
Rachel Moore, 40, of Oakland
Joshua Phillips, 36, of Oakland
Harkens back to the mug shots of criminals wearing ‘obama’ shirts:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/general/obama
How old is “college age” in Berkley…???
Well past senility if they can prop you up with a sign.
So it wasn’t global warming that flooded Houston – it was a Fauxcahontas Rain Dance!
Media will going hard to counter act the antifa after being solidly behind them. They’ve already started trying to separate dems from the violent leftists. We’ll see more of it in the days to come, mostly because this has it pretty well down. Dems are linked to the violence by not condemning it early.
https://www.philadelinquency.com/2017/08/29/enjoy-protests-going-get-awkward-soon/
The people I’m feeling sorry for are you guys, gals–and other–who have been out marching in circles around City Hall hoping Trump would give a shit about your Magic Marker signs. Standing next to you in those crowds were miscreant humanities students and flunkies otherwise known as AntiFa and Black Bloc. Unfortunately for you, even though you didn’t don AntiFa garb you are going to be lumped in with them; because you’ve been winking and nodding at them and quietly accepting the normalization of extra-judicial unconstitutional violence as if it were protected speech.
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One of the most vulnerable Democratic senators in Congress is Missouri senator Claire McCaskill. Her state voted for Donald Trump by 57% to Hillary Clinton’s 38%. She has to desperately look as moderate as possible, her Republican attackers will put up ads “Clare’s people think every last one of you is a racist Nazi,” and pair photos of her in ballrooms with Nancy Pelosi set to dramatic music. See how this works?
This obviously has Democratic strategists in a pickle.
It’s very obvious what next year will be like. The worst footage from protest demonstrations will be put on display in campaign advertising and all the claims that Democratic pundits and authors have made claiming America is festooned with 64 million gas-chamber-murdering Nazis. Everyone who voted for Donald Trump is a Nazi. They’re all Nazis.
For somebody who talks up a storm, Warren actually has almost nothing to say. She whines constantly about Trump, but when needled for a positive statement about some issue, the best she can manage is some vague noise, basically a few watered-down socialist bromides. Then she changes the subject back to Trump and continues whining.
This hardly seems the sort of stuff of which successful campaigns are made.