On Joy Reid’s MSNBC show today, analyst Malcolm Nance floated a scenario in which President Trump decided to use a nuclear weapon to stop the North Korean missile-testing program. Reid asked whether Kelly would be “the guy who’s going to say, ‘yes, sir, or the guy who’s going to say, ‘don’t do it?'”

Replied Nance:

“He may have to be the guy that tackles him.”

That won a “wow” from Reid.

MALCOLM NANCE: When decisions that are going to be — could be intensely controversial or even dangerous to the United States — I mean, this North Korean missile tests that they’ve been carrying out. If Donald Trump gets into his head that he’s going to burn that program out of the ground, with perhaps a nuclear weapon, well these generals are going to have to be the ones that are going to have to explain what the consequences of that. Because his consequence management skills are null.

JOY REID: Is Kelly the guy who’s going to say “yes, sir,” or he is the guy who’s going to say “don’t do it?”

NANCE: He may have to be the guy that tackles him.

REID: Wow.