Morning Joe Trashes Trump Muslim Immigration Stance
Meanwhile, Omar Mateen’s father isn’t exactly pro-American
Do you think the families and loved ones of the Orlando victims wish Omar Mateen’s father, an anti-American Afghan, had never been permitted to enter the United States? Do you think the great majority of Americans agree?
The answer seems obvious: but not to the clueless cast of Morning Joe, which today trashed Donald Trump’s call for a ban on Muslim immigration. Mika Brzezinski epitomized the willful blindness, claiming the Muslim ban has “no connection at all” to the Pulse massacre.
The Associated Press reported today that Mateen’s father, Seddique Mateen, who emigrated to the US from Afghanistan, was the host of a TV show filled, according to a former Afghan official, with “anti-US tirades.” He praised the Taliban as “our warrior brothers.” If Mateen père had been denied entrance to the US, Mateen fils would never have been born here and would not have been in a position to carry out his Islamic terrorist rampage. The Muslim ban has “no connection at all?” We’d laugh, except we want to scream.
DAVID IGNATIUS: If [Trump’s] polarizing rhetoric continues. it begins to make Muslims feel like they’re on another side, and then it’s a very different problem.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: And Willie, we certainly saw that this weekend. More talk of Muslim bans. More talk of exclusion. More talk, again, that has made many people believe, from Donald Trump, many people believe, that a lot of his words, a lot of his rhetoric, actually he’s playing into the ISIS playbook.
WILLIE GEIST: As we started our coverage yesterday morning, we heard from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Donald Trump’s first tweet, anyway, was relatively measured by his standard. Thoughts and prayers for victims and things like that. But as the day went on, he talked again about the Muslim ban. He’s going to talk about it today and this week. He’s apparently going to double down on that.
SCARBOROUGH: Again, this is a guy born in America.
GEIST: This is in reaction to Omar Mateen, the shooter yesterday, was born in New York and he lived in Florida. He’s a United States citizen. No wall would have kept him out.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: So he’s using this to try to prop up the Muslim ban and roil hatred, even though it has no connection at all.
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Yesterday, the media talked of how Obama cam out for the 15th time to talk of gun violence.
On the 14th time, Mr Obama gave the solution of universal background checks as one of the solutions.
It appears that not only was the perpetrator of this violence given a background check but the FBI talked to him at least 3 times, but still he was able to recently buy two of the weapons used to kill 50 without any difficulty.
While we hear of veterans being classified by the VA as not able to own a gun, why is it that the FBI seems to have no affect on the background check system of this cretin ?
Meanwhile, this perp worked as a security guard for a company that provides security to federal buildings.
Never mention the Muslim proclivity toward intolerance and violence. It only makes them mad and they may react violently.
We also probably shouldn’t mention the Afghan proclivity for buggering little boys. That might make them mad and then they’ll go murder homosexuals or something.
Obama and the media will get us all killed!
Not sure what happened but Joe and Mika have turned on Trump in a very vindictive and nasty way.
Their attitude towards him has change 180 degrees. It seems very personal what ever is going on. They also have taken to attacking the republicans right along with Trump.
I used to enjoy the program but with the constant drum beat of attack Trump I won’t watch them anymore.
TRUMP 2016
Agreed. Morning Joe’s about face is remarkable. During the primaries, Joe and Mika denied being fans of the Donald, claiming they were merely telling the truth: that Trump had a good chance of winning the nomination. But they clearly seemed to delight in his success.
Now that he has secured the nomination, they have turned on him with a vengeance. I think Joe is never so happy as when he’s attacking his fellow Republicans. Must feel good for him to be back to his traditional stance.
Seriously?
You don’t know why they’ve “turned on Trump”? Really?
Think about it a little while longer…
Exactly. The anticipated happened. The media turned on Trump the minute he became the presumptive nominee. They were only promoting Trump because they reasoned he’d make an easy target in the general election.
Another thing that’s going to happen in the course of this election is that the sloppy, undisciplined Trump will make conservative ideas, the ideas with which he’s not that familiar and that mean very little to him, he’ll make those ideas radioactive. The border wall is one example.
Another lefty making shit up.
Declared Hillary voter. Nothing you say is ever true.
No, no, you don’t get it. I’m a declared Hillary admirer. More than just a voter.
Not sure what happened? You’ve got to be kidding.
There have been many right here on this blog who have been pointing out for months already that the media was laying in wait for Trump to secure the nomination before they started yanking skeletons out of his many closets. Should Trump ever give them a slow current events news day they’ll simply trot out another one of those skeletons. Donald Trump’s past, present, and future is going to be a target rich environment for the media.
Y’all got what you wanted.
Is there something wrong with you idiots?
Name one republican nominee that did not get hammered by the media, post clear nomination.
no one with a functioning pair of brain cells pays any attention to you morons.
3 months ago I predicted the sun would rise in the east and set in the west.
Am I right?
There is a difference between being born here and being an American.
Following the well-trodden path, Obama in his remarks on Orlando left JIM out. JIM is always out to lunch with the left. Never to be mentioned just in case some of the clueless among us make an association.
Jihad
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Well, there are now a bunch of families and friends of the Orlando Muslim murder spree who have learned, the hard way, about Islam and its objective to subject the world to Islam. In Arabic, Islam means to submit. They have made the JIM association.
Life’s a tough teacher. You take her test first. Then you get the lesson.
If you call for stronger immigration control you are a hater!
If you call for stronger immigration control you are playing into the ISIS playbook!
Really… ISIS has been a threat well before Trump started his run for office. Oh ever mind with the facts.
Logical thought is hate now. smh
Is Joe pro-immigrant or anti-native? Choices.
“If [Trump’s] polarizing rhetoric continues. it begins to make Muslims feel like they’re on another side, and then it’s a very different problem.”
Now if they could only apply this same theory to the way the President uses rhetoric against Christians, Republican and Conservatives and has divided every group in our country they might just be onto something important!
It’s not “Morning Joe” it’s “Morning Hypocrisy”!
Could have sworn they already thought they were on the other side.
So many things at play in this nightmare. The dad says his son wasn’t radicalized. Well, when your definition of normal is killing infidels, then he wasn’t.
Who will the left support, gays or Muslims? Which group represents the biggest threat and the the biggest reward? They’re trying to back off the Muslim angle and paint it as a hate crime, so it’s clear they’re trying to back both.
Of course, the solution to all this is get rid of guns. The guy didn’t obey the “don’t kill” laws, why would he obey the “don’t possess this certain type of gun” laws?
I know (assume…hope) the FBI is doing all it can to thwart these barbarians, but obviously they’re slipping (sneaking) through the cracks. At what point do the Charles Bronson’s “help out” the situation and go all vigilante? If the government is incompetent or unwilling to protect the citizenry, someone will. Thus we continue our slide into anarchy.
“Gays or Muslims”?
The answer is neither. They’ll continue to attack “Christian hate” for causing this Muslim’s anti-gay violence, and they’ll continue to attack the ability to acquire guns “too easily” for the mass shooting, even though he went through multiple licensing procedures and worked as a guard in Federal buildings.
The Left loves those who hates them the most…Islam.
What we have is a hate problem, not a gun problem.
We have a cult of violent and primitive people spreading a message of hate against westerners around the world.
This has to be stopped.
This violent culture is enabled by a “gun free zone” mentality of the government that makes sitting ducks out of good people.
A few more guns in the hands of good people could have stopped this madness.
ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, i.e. the “ministry of information” for the Obama administration has been focusing on “how did this man get guns?”
The real question they and the administration should be focusing on is how did this man get his hate? Who and what organization indoctrinated and radicalized him? How does this organization exist and move throughout the world? How can this hatred be stopped?
In countries ruled by radical Islamic governments they don’t need guns to kill gays.
They just throw them off the tops of high buildings to cheering crowds.
The problem is not guns.
I live an hour away from Orlando and have a gay son. These bozos on tv csn shove it! Who cares what they believe. We are at war. Which city is next? Does America care? If not we are gone as a nation.
You might head over to Breitbart or The Gateway Pundit for some comfort.
My gay 16 year old son knows quite well who will kill him and who won’t. He knows which party is fostering this. What is maddening is that these so called learned individuals on tv can’t or won’t figure this out.
I guess they have their heads up their butt that they don’t have time to come out for air.
Omar Mateen (Orlando shooter), born in the U.S. to Afghan Muslim immigrant parents;
Syed Rizwan Farook (San Bernandino shooter), born in the U.S. to Pakistani Muslim immigrant parents;
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (Boston Marathon bomber), naturalized U.S. citizen, born to Chechen Muslim immigrant parents;
Nidal Malik Hasan (Ft. Hood shooter), born in the U.S. to Palestinian Muslim immigrant parents;
Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez (Chattanooga U.S. military recruiting centers shooter), naturalized U.S. citizen, born to Palestinian/Jordanian Muslim immigrant parents.
See any type of pattern there Joe? Any kind of common factor that jumps out at you? Anything that might suggest something that might need to be tweaked in our immigration laws?
Take your time, Joe. We all know you’re a bit slow . . . .
You nailed it,”observer.”
If Mr. Joe looked to Europe he would find the exact pattern as you outlined emerge during the last few years.
Once the usual suspects: climate change, poverty, guns,racism,conservatives,haters…. are exhausted the premise,Islam means submission or war,might dawn on Mr. Joe.
Joe is such a liberal hypocrite. From Jan. 2016 until May 2016, Joe has Trump on practically EVERYDAY. For almost the entire fist hour of the show Joe would have Trump on the phone discussing the campaign, etc. Maybe if Joe had not kissed his butt so much and did not give him the free publicity, Trump would not be in this position. OH!…wait…then Joe’s ratings would have tanked even more and that is all that really matters…right Joe?
I am no fan of the Donald, but he had one very good point about his proposed Muslim ban, which the anchors of CBS did not want to hear (I did not see the MJ interview). His point was that an American-born Muslin can and often is radicalized through association with Muslin immigrants and/or “refugees”, and he pointed quite logically at the San Bernardino shooters, where a U.S. born Muslim married an immigrant and was radicalized.
His other point was that the temporary ban would have a purpose: to properly screen for our enemies. That is, get control of the situation. Instead, what we have now is mass migration without even the health screenings that used to be required.
I guess the answer to whether ban muslims or not is in their religious/societal laws. We should pass an amendment to our Constitution that plainly says that any group, religion or entity that has as its bylaws, religious precepts, customs or rites that cannot abide the freedoms offered by our Constitution cannot reside in this country. They would be allowed to visit with a visa but not become residents. I can just hear the 1st amendment crowd hollering about freedom of religion but if muslims cannot separate sharia law from their religion then expulsion should be the price they have to pay. Our Constitution is for everyone, even within a family, and the parents do not have the right to deprive their own children the freedoms guaranteed by it. How then can anyone in this country be a muslim?
Why not just ban Islam or similar relgions rather than generalizing and hurting most? Plus it would make writing the laws much easier and less vague.
We can ban anyone we want, for any reason, including religion. No constitutional amendment needed.
To be clear, ban immigration…
And yesterday I was criticized for ( sarcastically ) saying it’s Trumps fault.
From what I understand Mateen was an anchor baby. Though that part has been out of the news recently, Trump has a good argument.
Except it isn’t “T-rump’s argument”. Like a lot of other things, he just co-opted it.
“Both Democrats and Republicans have introduced legislation aimed at narrowing the application of the Citizenship Clause. In 1993, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced legislation that would limit birthright citizenship to the children of U.S. citizens and legally resident aliens, and similar bills have been introduced by other legislators in every Congress since.[73] For example, U.S. Representative Nathan Deal, a Republican from the State of Georgia, introduced the “Citizenship Reform Act of 2005” (H.R. 698) in the 109th Congress,[74] the “Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007” (H.R. 1940)[75] in the 110th Congress, and the “Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009″ (H.R. 1868)[76] in the 111th Congress. However, neither these nor any similar bill has ever been passed by Congress.”
Idiot.
The argument is to be for it. No one, including Trump, is claiming to be the first to make this argument.
If you’re being investigated by the FBI for terrorist connections, you shouldn’t be able to buy a gun. If you’re being investigated by the FBI for improper storage and transfer of classified information, you shouldn’t be able to run for President!
American citizens should not be denied their natural right (gun ownership) without due process. Being under investigation is not due process.
Similarly, there is no law prohibiting those eligible to be President from running for President even if they are being investigated. It’s not advisable to vote for an individual under FBI investigation, however.
I posted a request for a transcript of Trump’s speech on terrorism at Breitbart, and later found it at Hot Air!
Donald J. Trump Addresses Terrorism, Immigration, and National Security | Donald J Trump for President
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-addresses-terrorism-immigration-and-national-security
“Morning Jerkoff” is more like it.
Who is this guy’s fan base, the 300 people in the GOPe?