LIVE RESULTS: Super Tuesday
600 delegates up for grabs
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Twelve states are in play and approximately 600 delegates up for grabs. 1,237 delegates are required to clinch the GOP nomination (baring any convention shenanigans, which we’ll worry about if they become an issue).
(added by WAJ, 2nd update) While the final delegate numbers might change, this is the NY Times estimate for tonights voting, as of almost 1:30 a.m. Eastern. A win for Trump, but not as overwhelming in terms of delegates at the headlines would suggest based on number of states won:
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Trump wins Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Massachusetts
Trumph, the man who would be King of Tastelessness, is not unstoppable. He’s within striking distance for the honorable Ted Cruz.
(I don’t normally feed the Trump trolls, but this time I will comment.)
If it weren’t for the spoilers – Carson, Kasich, and Rubio – then Cruz would be beating Trump, handily – resoundingly.
Trump is not only beatable – he is a HORRIBLE candidate that is being propped up by crossover Dems, indies who are angry, and celebrity-loving LIV’s (low-information voters). Trump is the one the Democrats WANT as the nominee, so they can DESTROY him and his horrid record, his unhinged and irrational character. That’s the only way Hillary (or, as I call her, Hill-dabeast) can win.
But you know that already, of course.
There is simply no support for your statement in the polling that has been done. Neither the “cross over” votes, nor that Cruz would be winning sans the other candidates.
If you have something other than your hopes and wishes why not put it here so we can see it?
Please don’t click this link, it might make you cry:
http://polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TM827Y16/type/smallest/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20160101-20160301/collapsed/false/spotlight/1
Anyone else notice the new younger looking, hip hair photo of Hillary? Something MUST be wrong with her healthwise to warrant the million dollar makeover and its appearance on this Super Tuesday.
They must have found the makeup guy who keeps Lenin looking so fresh.
Trump wins Virginia.
Trump gets Virginia.
Eeew. http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/yokohillary.asp
In case anyone is interested, coverage by Fox Business is not nearly as obnoxious as their sister station.
Ima happy camper 🙂
Cruz up in Tx and Okie.
Trump sweep everywhere else.
Rubio gets a BIG FAT NADA
YES!!
“Rubio gets a BIG FAT NADA”
Which won’t stop him from giving a victory speech, BTW. After all, he did get the most endorsements.
It means Legal Insurrection was unable to stop the legal insurrection 🙂
Not necessarily true. Many states divide delegates and are not winner take all. Candidates can ‘lose’ a state and still come out with a handful of delegates.
As Alexander Pope almost said:
“Hope springs eternal in the human breast
Among those who are self delusional at best” 🙂
Not even one state for Rubio. Zero. Nadita. Tsk tsk
Many principled conservatives did their best to boost Sen Rubio.
But if he wins zero states it seems problematic to continue down that path.
Options include:
1) turn to Cruz
2) accept and support Trump
3) do all in their power to sabotage Trump including throw the election to Hillary
Predictions?
Oh noes! Rubio won one state: MN.
My prediction:
This is a bonanza for Trump. Rubio will stay in, since he won one state and a smattering of delegates and has strong GOPe support.
Cruz won a couple of large states: OK and TX so he will stay in.
Cavuto just said that it looks like Trump will get 350 of the 595 delegates tonight. Karl Rove has said that if Trump got 300 or more delegates tonight it would give Trump an insurmountable lead.
Hope Cavuto is accurate.
Hi Gary. Just checking in over here to see a non-dumpster fire.
Looks like it’s an outsider clean sweep.
Boo Hoo Rubio & the Establishment.
But that could change, maybe… probably not.
Trump and Cruz make it out of Super Tuesday. But all the states left are good Trump states. Cruz doesn’t have a path now to win. Rubio will be dead but maybe not out after Florida and Kasich out after Ohio. What states that are left can Cruz win?
Win or lose Rubio won’t drop out till he is out of money.
The Establishmentarian Church of Trumph candidate who calls everyone else “nothing” is the king of nothing.
Also Cavuto speculation that Rick Scott will endorse Donald Trump.
Welp.
Welp.
It is a barn burner on twitter.
Hot off the press:
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@JoeNBC
@jaketapper says the math does not add up for any Republican candidates other than @realDonaldTrump and @SenTedCruz.
#SuperTuesday
7:32pm MT · 1 Mar 2016 · Twitter for iPhone
11 Retweets 6 Likes
Democrats are already putting out attack ads tying every Republican to the vulgar, nasty, lying, two-faced, hypocritical, self-worshiping ignoramus that some people, oddly enough, think should be the president.
Drumpf is saving Hillary and the Democrats from what would otherwise be a bad year for them.
i.e. Democrats and Special Snowflake “Republicans” are joining together as liberals in their typical attempt to defeat the leading Republican nominee.
You mean the way Rubio’s philosophical and temperamental heirs Romney/Ryan saved Obama?
I don’t get it. trump HQ in Florida and it is Christie that starts. I thought trump sent him home in a little black dress, the scorned woman.
Gasp! I read that on LI which used to be a credible blog!
Sadly LI now has authors who post faked up edited videos and then make lies out of it. And then when caught in their lies do nothing while other LI authors jump in to defend the lie with but its “fake but accurate” defense. Ridiculous.
Maybe the “fake but humorous” defense?
So @DaMav. If this is no longer a credible blog, why are you and Gary here? Wouldn’t you be more comfortable over at “credible” blog like the Conservative Nuthouse? They are all Trump all the time. You’d feel right at home.
OMG you guys. How thick are you?! I mean, ~whoosh!~
You just keep making Fuzzy’s point. Over, and over, and over…
Amy, just because fuzzy said it was all in humor doesn’t mean it was. As I said, if it was, it was a poor attempt.
Get back to me when we see some of those humorous posts directed at some other republican candidate.
It’s the Michael Moore tactic. Get called out for uttering a scurrilous howler, then claim, “Chill out dude, it’s just humor!”
You’re comparing Professor Jacobson to Michael Moore?
You people are seriously unhinged.
One of the things I admire about men in general is that they(some) don’t hold grudges. Obviously Christie got over that whole walk of shame.
I keep wondering where Palin is…???
The BEST that Der Donald could do was a fellow NE liberal “republian”?
Where’s Sessions…???
And right on time our resident smear artist comes along with his deflection. Christie was in Florida with Trump. Trump never “dismissed” him as the used woman. It has nothing to do with where Jeff Sessions or Palin are tonight.
Maybe Sessions is in Alabama celebrating a 2 to 1 victory over your guy.
Poor Butt-hurt Barri. How is my observation of the facts a “smear”, lying POS?
How is it a “deflection”, deflector?
You know exactly why it is deflection. Don’t act stupid. I know that is hard for you.
With her daughter who just gave birth.
This is March. Her daughter gave birth in December last year.
Nice try though!
Don Juan Trumph had his way with them and then showed them the back door.
Trumph’s your backdoor man.
#NeverTrump
Well watching the Trump preser now.
Christie came out to introduce him , I guess.
So much for LI reporting.
This is even more interesting. Taken in Ohio today, Christie and Trump getting off the plane. I don’t know how to (or if one can even embed an image here), but this picture was tweeted out.
https://twitter.com/LadyImpactOhio/status/704735452855734273
Doesn’t Christie have a real job?
Yes, electing Trump, who will make him AG, and he can then prosecute shrillary.
I’m sure that Christie is drooling at the chance to go after some of the corruption in the Obama administration. Let us hope he can find a bunch of deputies like Patrick Fitzgerald.
I only wish that would happen.
D’awww.
https://twitter.com/exjon/status/704877109194289152/photo/1
Christie has the same job as Trumph supporters – remain poorly educated. Trumph loves him some poorly educated.
When Clinton talks about love and kindness, does that apply to Republicans? The only barriers she seems to care about are those concerning her supporters.
Democrats act in public that they don’t play the game, when we know in private they are proud to offend.
What a minute… here it comes hot as lava off the twitterenets
Just in:
The Hill Verified Acount
@thehill
WATCH LIVE: FL Gov. Rick Scott to endorse Trump: report hill.cm/t7s9CBD #SuperTuesday http://pic.twitter.com/y9uhlyxmK1
7:38pm · 1 Mar 2016 · SocialFlow
25 Retweets 13 Likes
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I love it!
So the ‘sploding heads would be those of the Trumpkins who were predicting an overwhelming and “insurmountable” 350-delegate win for their Dear Leader but may now have to accept that he may have won just ~241 to Cruz’s ~222?
There was no such prediction except by Cavuto. Fox and Friends has it 285 to 167.
I heard this on Fox, but Donald Trump just said no endorsement by Rick Scott.
No. Why do a two-fer instead of a separate media event.
Did he realize just how toxic Trump had become and get cold feet? Maybe he saw the last iota of dignity escaping Christie’s body and changed his mind?
In any case, it hardly matters. No one here thinks much of Scott anyway.
So that was awkward, hey? 😀
The amazing thing about tonight isn’t that Rubio lost big. It is that Paul Ryan found a way to make himself appear an even bigger fool than before.
Nothing sends a ‘beat the establishment now!’ message more than seeing the former 2nd banana of the most spectacularly incompetent Republican presidential campaign of recent memory give advice to the frontrunner who is doing what Ryan could never do, winning. And Ryan’s advice (reading between the lines): ‘our presidential nominees must always grovel to the media, participate and amplify any and all of their phony gambits and philosophical grievances, always signal deference to their sense of moral outrage no matter how contrived. Always play the Left’s game.’
Good job Paul! And you wonder why the base is rebelling?
Most important, it looks like today Trump will come out with at least half of the 8 qualifying states he needs to get his name put in nomination. How many has everybody else got? None.
Half?
Basic addition, 3 + 7 = 10
And Alaska maybe
Convention rules: A person has to get 50%+1 delegates in eight states to have his name placed in nomination. Just winning the state isn’t good enough.
In what states did Trump meet this test?
yes, you are correct. I forgot about the requirements, thought you were just counting total states.
Yes, I remember it well: The tough, hard as nails, in shape, super-smart Paul Ryan, beaten to a pulp by Joe Biden.
TRUMP: AL, AR, GA, MA, TN, VA, VT!
Trumph loves the poorly educated. Get in line.
Trying to speak any sense to people in this country is about as useless as charging hell with a water pistol.
Well, time for Rubio to drop out and endorse Cruz, yes? 😉
There is new, News.
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Minnesota caucus
Last updated Mar 1, 2016 at 9:28 PM MT
Mar 138 delegates
53% reporting
Votes
Rubio (won) 37.32 22,176
Cruz 28.0% 16,630
Trump 21.1% 12,552
Carson 7.1%4,229
Kasich 6.3% 3,754
Hot Off The Twitter Wire:
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@jonward11
Lindsey Graham on CBS just now: “we may be in a position where we have to rally around Ted Cruz.”
8:36pm · 1 Mar 2016 · Twitter Web Client
718 Retweets 554 Likes
The Establishment has been surely encircled and if they rally about Cruz?
Game Over
We just won 2016, from a Anti-Establishment viewpoint.
No matter what, either Cruz or Trump or both as P/VP, will precede to the General.
Super Tuesday So Far:
Trump:
VA
MA
GA
AL
TN
AR
Cruz:
OK
TX
Rubio:
MN
The “Trump is racist” meme is getting pushed hard, which is interesting because the KKK has historically been a Democrat organization (not that the Democrats will ever admit it) and as such their endorsement of Trump should be seen as an attempt to torpedo him.
Vermont was added to the Trump Column
Update: Super Tuesday So Far:
Trump:
VA
MA
GA
AL
TN
AR
+*VT*+
Cruz:
OK
TX
Rubio:
MN
I, I forgot to post this: That ‘Trump is racist’ meme?
Dead Skunk with Xs for the eyes.
Today On Twitter:
Herschel Walker Verified Account
@HerschelWalker
I have personally known @realDonaldTrump for over 30 years and can confirm he is not a racist!!
12:20pm · 1 Mar 2016 · Twitter Web Client
2,357 Retweets 2,461 Likes
citation: https://twitter.com/HerschelWalker/status/704748243838595072
This is pretty much an official declaration there now exists, a 2016 GOP Front Runner:
The Hill Verified Account
@thehill
Trump cements status as 2016 front-runner with huge #SuperTuesday wins
http://hill.cm/91Q8pYm
http://pic.twitter.com/qXp3Xu7dPZ
10:43pm · 1 Mar 2016 · SocialFlow
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O Rubio, Rubio! Wherefore art thou Rubio?
Deny thy own word, embrace the rumor
Thou livest still in the pants of Schumer
No self-respecting maid would care embrace
Nor vote approval for thy two-fold face
No wonder that the votes have left thee stung
A loser caught betwixt thy serpent’s forked tongue
Alaska Numbers Starting To Come In
Scott Jensen Verified Account
@alaskajensen
With about a quarter of the Alaska #SuperTuesday vote counted it’s a tight race
@realDonaldTrump – 34.5% & @tedcruz – 33.4%
11:50pm · 1 Mar 2016 · Twitter for iPhone
1 Retweet
(@alaskajensen
Multimedia journalist for Alaska Dispatch News
Anchorage, AK · adn.com )
A somewhat more updated Alaska update:
Candidate Percentage Votes Votes Behind
Ted Cruz 34.6% 3,578 —
Donald Trump 33.1% 3,417 -161
Marco Rubio 17.2% 1,778 -1,800
Ben Carson 10.2% 1,056 -2,522
John Kasich 4.9% 508 -3,070
All Others 0.0% 0 -3,578
Precincts Reporting 52.8%
Total Votes 10,337
So Palin couldn’t deliver Alaska for Trump? Not even Wasila?
So if the bottom 3 drop out, what happens to their delegates?
Still committed unless the candidate releases them, I think.
Correct – for the first ballot. There is virtually no reason for any candidate to release his delegates, though, except to show unity – and all the candidates who’ve suspended their campaigns are Republicans, so why would they unify with a liberal Democrat?
Sorry about the bad formatting. I tried spaces, but they don’t show up in the output.
One thing that really bothers me is talk about denying Trump by maneuvering the election so that we wind up with a brokered convention. That can happen one of two ways. Trump fails to get 50%+1 delegates, or no one gets the required eight qualifying states. The GOPe then passes on the nomination to Cruz by manipulating Trump delegates.
If this were to happen if, for example, the total delegate count was something like 41% Cruz and 44% Trump, then I could see it working. But I hear some people arguing that they should do it even if Trump has something like a 15% lead in the delegate count. Were something like that to take place and be successful, I think it would be highly destructive, to the poiunt of ripping apart what is left of the Republican party.
You need a majority of delegates for the nomination, and a clear majority in at least eight states. No one who fails to qualify for that has any claim on the nomination.
Frankly, it is better to “tear the party apart” and keep the structure in the hands of those who built it, than to bastardize it by empowering neo-nazis, white supremacists, conspiracy nuts, nativists, and dumbass talk radio fans. It’s already torn by those who sow discord without proposing alternative strategies. They should never be allowed to win by simply sitting on their asses and complaining.
than to bastardize it by empowering neo-nazis, white supremacists, conspiracy nuts, nativists.
People who are skeptical about the, to date, unfounded social benefits of multiculturalism and who don’t want to imitate the fate of the Balkans are not Nazis, so please step away from the ledge. Nor are they white supremacists or if they are then white supremacy has an undeserved negative reputation. Either way, it is a silly and scandalous accusation but not surprising. Lots of time and energy has gone into convincing people that such accusations should operate like Kryptonite to render any consideration of serious topics that the Kryptonite thrower might prefer not considered dead. That’s why people who supported the Vietnam War were called Nazis by the Leftists. That’s why Reagan was called a Nazi and portrayed with a Hitler mustache in posters produced by the same people. That’s why the Tea Party were called Nazis. That’s why the Boy Scouts were called Nazis. Scoundrels think calling people Nazis or white supremacists is effective. Most intelligent people have wised up to this ruse, which doesn’t bode well for this, your recent addition, to the Alinsky playbook.
In Britain the last Tory take-over was helped along by a gaffe by then PM Gordon Brown, a truly vile little man. A woman was caught on camera expressing her concerns to him that recent immigrants had transformed the town from all recognition and had taken jobs needed by locals. Gordon after giving her some flim-flam turned and was recorded saying ‘what a bigoted old woman.’ Though he likely would have lost anyway, the circulation of this recording destroyed any chance of a turn around for his campaign. Sweet justice.
There is a special place in hell for people who treat their fellow citizens, those with whom they’ve been in social compact for years, fellow citizens who have made the contributions to the society that brought it to its current state and come from families who have sacrificed repeatedly for the country as no more significant and occupying no more position of status vis-a-vis the bounty of this nation that random foreigners. It is an immoral mindset and possessed by people of poor character and no integrity.
And this sums up, in a nutshell, why the grassroots hate the establishment.
Disagree with Donald Trump all you want, but the fact remains that MILLIONS of people are backing his campaign. Instead of spending time considering WHY this is so and how the party might address this (enormous) problem, the GOPe position (nicely summed up by Estragon) is to deride those people as ‘neo-nazis, white supremacists, conspiracy nuts, nativists, and dumba**(es).’ And then you wonder why the base hates the establishment of the party? You wonder why they reject any candidate who has any connection whatsoever with the current power structure? The base has been screaming FOR YEARS that the fundamental issue is controlling immigration. Why are we now surprised that they are vigorously supporting an outsider who (at least claims to) agree with them instead of insiders who have failed (for a variety of reasons) to address the problem?
As others have pointed out elsewhere: If Trump doesn’t have the delegates he needs by July then he isn’t “owed” the nomination. That’s not how it works. That might be how you’d like it to work. But that’s not how it works.
“Were something like that to take place and be successful, I think it would be highly destructive, to the poiunt (sic) of ripping apart what is left of the Republican party.”
I’m not sure how destructive it would be to the GOP. But it could have a greater effect on the nation at large. Just look back to the ’76 GOP convention battle between Ford & Reagan where I recall neither had a majority of delegates. Ford won the a nasty nomination process at the convention, but America lost (enormously) when Carter beat him in the general.
So I agree the stakes are very high. Should Trump have a plurality of delegates and not be awarded the nomination, it’s certainly possible Trump supporters will lack the motivation to support what they see as a GOPe manipulated process (precisely feeding their preconceptions of the party) to deny the more popular vote, stay home in November, and not vote for the GOP nominee. Just as if Trump is the nominee, non-Trump supporters might sit out the general election vote.
With multiple SCOTUS seats potentially up for grabs, I can’t imagine a more foolish choice.
That’s why, IMO, the wise vote for general elections is to follow the “Always vote against the worst candidate” rule. The worst the GOP can drag up is 1000x better than Clinton or Sanders.
I’ve heard far too many on LI and other sites say they will not vote for Trump or Cruz or Rubio in the general because they are not “their candidate”. I respect such choices. I just hope we all don’t have to have the words “President Clinton” reverberate in our heads for the rest of our lives because of their choices.
AP and RCP have called Alaska for Cruz. 100% of the precincts are accounted for. So Cruz gets another 12 delegates while Trump gets 11.
Not only did Cruz win three states outright, but even though he was narrowly edged out by Rubio in Minnesota, Cruz still beat Trump there.
Anybody who thought this race was going to be over has on supe Tuesday had no idea what they’re talking about. More delegates are at stake on March 15 than were March 1. And things get harder for Trump going forward, not harder for Cruz.
Why? Look at what happened in Oklahoma. Cruz upset Trump. If you doubt me just look at the Real Clear Politics poll average. On average Trump was up by 11.4%; no poll had Trump leading by less than 8%.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ok/oklahoma_republican_presidential_primary-4288.html#polls
Cruz beat Trump despite that for one simple reason. Oklahoma has a true closed primary. Note I’m not talking about caucus states, but states where you just show up and vote in secret. And a number of states have nominally closed primaries but they’re really not. For instance, in some states there is same day registration, so you can expect some crossover from Democrats and independents.
But Oklahoma has a true closed primary. Only voters registered as Republicans as of Feb 6 could vote in it. This was the first state with such a primary system on the schedule, and both Cruz and Rubio expected Trump to underperform in a true closed primary. They were right. Cruz benefited from that insight far more than Rubio. Now there are 14 more on the schedule.
The bottom line is if Kasich and Rubio stay in then there will be a brokered convention. It will be mathematically impossible for Trump to get the 1237 delegates he needs to become the nominee. No one has a way to that number.
But if you’re upset, Trump fans, remember that if these others weren’t soaking up votes and playing the roles of spoilers Trump would be losing to Cruz.
Can I give you 1000+ “likes”?!?! I would if I could.
Because you are speaking the truth. Thank you for your clarity and honest assessment of what is really happening in these states. 🙂
Cruz beating Trump would be great. Preferable imo. But opening the door for the GOPe to steal the race with Rubio, Ryan, Romney or some other charlatan would be a nuclear catastrophe.
RE the closed primary hurting Trump.
That is a good theory in it might depress the Trump vote some. But, unfortunately for Cruz, his strength has been shown to be limited to the Bible Belt and those aren’t the states on the upcoming calendar. In fact, for the most part the states coming up are even more favorable to Trump than previous states. Rubio winning a single caucus state hardly counts as much and gives him no momentum. Cruz winning his home state, OK and a squeaker in AL, is hardly a compelling story of national support. The message coming out of this round is that it is Trump’s to lose and with a big win in FLA, NJ, MI and NC (near certainties) and with small leads in OH and PA which have a good chance of turning into wins, it is very hard to see how either a candidate with one win in MN and another with a handful of wins in a few high Bible Belt states gets transformed into a national candidate selected by a convention or gains national momentum going forward.
Baring very remote unforeseen circumstances, Trump will be the nominee. Even if the establishment hates him.
On the contrary.
This is one of the reasons Cruz can’t win. His base of conservative support is committed, but it is too narrow; it doesn’t transport to the states that don’t have strong Bible Belt demographics, and where there is a base of less socially right-wing voters who have been snowed into thinking that Rubio is an adequate alternative.
“Anybody who thought this race was going to be over has on supe Tuesday had no idea what they’re talking about. More delegates are at stake on March 15 than were March 1. And things get harder for Trump going forward, not harder for Cruz.”
That’s some might strong kool aid you’re drinking there Arminius.
A few actual facts:
Cruz base was the South with the evangelical vote and conservatives. He has lost those in every state except Texas and Iowa. That was his firewall. Win the South, then sweep Texas of all delegates by getting 50% of the Texas vote. It didn’t happen. (Trump)
The last nail in Ted’s coffin, the great state of Texas, where in 2012, Romney, an outsider, won with 69%: J. McCain, an outsider, in 2008 won 51%, and George Bush, a Texan in 2000 won 87.5% of the vote (2004 as incumbent at 92%). So, you can see, Ted was expecting to hit the 50+ mark and get all the delegates. Over half the state of Texas voted against Cruz.
Trump didn’t win the state of Texas, but he beat Cruz in the state of Texas, and ended any possibility of a Cruz run. The states on the menu do not favor Cruz. He is behind in all the winner take all states coming up. Money is drying up fast.
Maybe you can come up with a way to prevent Trump from getting enough delegates before the convention, but it will not be Cruz doing the work. And I doubt this is possible. The big donors are starting to pull back. Money, large amounts, is required.
Remember that time the Trumpkins here were crowing that their Dear Leader would take 350 delegates yesterday and that it would give him an “insurmountable” lead?
Good times, good times.
You are remembering things that never happened. My prediction was at least 250 delegates. It was Cavuto who said 350. I said I hoped he was right.
Remember that time your memory failed?
Perhaps I missed it and you could just point it out.
Some really funny comments here. I won a state or two so I am beating Trump? Ok go ahead with your fantasy.
Joe Scarborough Verified account
@JoeNBC
If Trump pulls off wins in Virginia and Oklahoma, tonight will be an unqualified success for his campaign. #SuperTuesday
Welp.
You frantic little Trumpkins who are wearing their thumbs out down-twinkling my pure statement of fact (FACT: Trump didn’t win Oklahoma, despite all your predictions — Cruz did) do understand that for all your efforts, all “up” and “down” thumbs get wiped after a couple of weeks, yes?
You can give Cruz’s upset victory over Trump in OK all the down-twinkles in the world, but that’s not going to change the fact that y’all were wrong… again.
“…y’all were wrong… again.”
Amy, perhaps I missed it, but I don’t recall anyone making any predictions comporting with your recollections, much less winning OK. But, I do not read every comment. But I would like to read some of those predictions so please point them out to us.
Cruz had a better night then some expected. I expected him to win Texas and he did a bit better there than I expected. Good for him. I would not have wanted him to lose in his home state. Unfortunately, there is no path for Cruz to the nomination short of Trump having a heart attack, and soon.
Or his NORMAL supporters…not cultists like yourself…waking up to the fact that he’s a stinking, lying Collectivist thug who is a fraudster.
That would do it.
Perhaps you are responding to a comment I made in your head, otherwise I’m at a loss to know what you’re referencing.
You actually look at how people vote on your posts? And then care about it?
Fascinating.
Don’t you think a man who has planned to run since 2010 (or earlier) knows what the delegate distribution rules are? I only had to read the Republican Convention document once to know, and read the interviews in the media at the time where the GOP/RNC rules committee built a plan to stop an insurgent. Don’t you think Trump has a plan? Planning for the long term – he built a populist image and planted seeds everywhere. Consider this: Maybe Christie and others on Team Trump for YEARS. He was a donor to Clinton Foundation, so knows inside scoop – with dirt and election plan. He knows the Rove/RNC plan – they scrambled to get him to sign a “pledge” to keep him from going too rogue. Why do you think the GOP trotted out old timers to be front and center in Houston? He was one of them, heard all the PAC pitches – and they know he has their number! They are beside themselves furious, but what are they going to say? (“Trump knows our plan to f(*&^ the tax payer/voter! Not fair!)
Like him or hate him, I think the guy saw what was going on and said “enough”! He strategically focused on Jeb and took him out. Watch what happens next…..is going to be amazing.
To add: We are all acting according to plan. Focusing on the trees, while the forest is getting clearcut all around us!
I guess the fact that Cruz dominated in Alaska means they repudiated Palin’s sell out to Mr. Establishment.
Sad.
I was just thinking the same thing. As a former Palin fan, it’s been painful to watch her descent into schlockdom. The final straw was her endorsement of Trump, both the fact of it and the weird, rambling speech she gave. At one point, she looked like being a brilliant, beautiful shooting star. Now she can’t even deliver Wasila to her fellow TV reality clown. Sad indeed.
Cruz didn’t just win in Texas, he SCHOLONGED Der Donald, approaching 2:1 (1.6:1).
HEH…!!!
Remember that time when Cruz looked like pulling ahead in Texas, and the Trumpkins casually swung from “Looka teh polls! Trump’s gonna take Texas!” to “Well Cruz may possibly win Texas after all but he’s gotta do it by DOUBLE DIGITS just to remain viable”?
Welp. They kept moving the goalposts on that one, and Cruz still managed a touchdown.
Trump didn’t just win in America, he SCHOLONGED Der Cruz, ACTUALLY 5:1 in one state.
HEH…!!!
Results Ratio, Trump VS Cruz: (a real big HEH…!!!)
Georgia 1.6
Tenn 1.6
Virginia 2.0
Mass 5.1
Vermont 3.4
Alabama 2.0
I’ll make a bet, Trump will win his home state by more than Cruz won his.
What a chickenshit bet! OF COURSE NE liberals will vote for a NE liberal (Collectivist) lying SOS!
Just as I predicted they would in NH.
As much as I like Cruz, just to stick a needle in you –
More Texans voted against Cruz than for him.
Now, bark for me.
LMAO !!
I wonder why the polls stopped asking about voters second choice candidate ??
Could it be that if they did it would put the LIE to all the talk about how Trump would lose if so and so dropped out??
The Trumpkins were ecstatically predicting that Trump would win Cruz’s home state of Texas. I don’t know of any Cruz fans who are ecstatically predicting that Cruz is going to win Trump’s home state of New York.
See the difference?
Your persistent insults are aggravating and unnecessary. Please stop or leave.
Bless your heart xxoo
Well sugar pants let me tell you that Amy has been here much longer than you so if it came down to it I doubt she would be the one that was “Leaving”
Also, just a reminder that you have just as much authority to tell someone to leave as I do, which is none, so it just makes you look silly.
“Also, just a reminder that you have just as much authority to tell someone to leave as I do, which is none, so it just makes you look silly”
It’s not about authority it’s about decorum. Constantly insulting Trump supporters by calling them “Trumpkins” does nothing to make her point but does make her look like a jerk.
Get a life. As a certified Trumpkin I do not find it the least bit offensive. Amy has TDS, a certifiable condition.
You want me banned for calling Trump supporters “Trumpkins”? Seriously?
And the Trump supporters who use the phrase “Cruzbots,” shall we ban them too? And those who call Rubio “Gaybio”? And how about those who cuss? Them, too?
Look, if being called a Trumpkin is just too, too much for your delicate sensibilities to bear, maybe you can talk to the good Professor about building you your own special safe space here.
Or better yet, here’s a live Manatee Cam from Florida for you to watch instead. I always find manatees very calming. Everyone loves manatees. Bless your heart xxoo
“The Trumpkins were ecstatically predicting that Trump would win Cruz’s home state of Texas.”
Your memory still giving you trouble? Please show us where that was predicted. I certainly didn’t.
Up until January 24th, all the polls had him winning Texas, and Trump and his poll dancers were making much of that.
And what changed after Jan 24? An “October surprise” less than 48 hours before the election in the form of the KKK (long a Democrat stronghold) “endorsement” combined with coordinated media coverage of it.
Amy posts: ““The Trumpkins were ecstatically predicting that Trump would win Cruz’s home state of Texas.”
then
“Up until January 24th, all the polls had him winning Texas, and Trump and his poll dancers were making much of that.”
Amy,
You do know you just posted a link to ALL the polling data for Texas in this entire election cycle (look down the page) that shows that Cruz has won every single poll in TX, except for ONCE for Trump (9/21) and ONCE for Carson (10/24).
How in the world would Trump supporters find evidence in Texas polling that Trump would win the state when 15 polls going back to 6/14/15 (when Trump first showed up in TX polls) show Cruz winning?
Nothing different happened since 1/24. Nothing. Cruz was winning the polls handily before, and winning handily after.
Now, would you like to back up and try reading the polls again, or would you just like to drop the false narrative?
“and his poll dancers were making much of that”
I’m asking you to show us where any LI poll dancers were crowing about Trump winning Texas. If you are referencing some other website, then please put it that way. It will seem a tad bit more honest. I can’t say it didn’t happen, somewhere here, but I certainly don’t recall it.
The poll you posted from RCP is bit weird. All the results show Cruz consistently in the lead except for 1 or 2 here and there. We call those outliers. Weird, because the graph shows trump in the lead and cruz overtaking. No clue.
Gulf, I think Amy looked at the chart, not the data.
Trump is the blue line. Cruz is the black line. The blue line is above the black line until January 24th, when Cruz pushed out in front: http://imgur.com/BjlUyWa
“Poll: Trump beats Cruz in Texas” (August)
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251652-poll-trump-beats-cruz-in-texas
“Trump within 1 of Cruz in Texas poll”
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270566-trump-1-point-behind-cruz-in-texas-poll
February 24, 2016, 09:58 am
“I think it’s very likely that Mr. Trump can win here in Texas,” Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson told CNN on Wednesday morning.
“Gulf, I think Amy looked at the chart, not the data.”
I agree. Which is the flaw in looking exclusively at the RCP average polling percentage number without reviewing the data. The RCP average showed Trump ahead before 1/24, when in fact, Trump only won a single poll the entire primary cycle on 9/21. And that poll is suspect as it only polled 261 registered voters, the smallest polling sample size by far over the entire cycle. OTOH, Cruz won all but 3 polls.
Averages are not meaningless, but as the saying goes, better to check the actual depth of water before you dive in than rely on the average depth.
I’d also add that the RCP polling pages don’t publish the margin of error (MOE) for any of the polls they track (but why I pointed out the extremely small sample size of the TX poll that Trump won that flawed its significance). Without the MOE, you have to estimate the statistical significance based on the sample size. If anyone’s interested, here’s a primer to help with judging poll accuracy:
http://www.robertniles.com/stats/margin.shtml
Amy, safe to say, none of your “trumpkins” her at LI were the ones making the predictions.
TDS distorts the view for you folks.
Just Monday, Barry, you were crowing about how Trump was rising in the polls in Texas.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2016/03/trump-admits-times-report-says-status-of-illegals-is-negotiable/comment-page-2/#comment-654182
Nice try, No cigar. In a response to a post about trending I said:
“Trump going up in the polls, including, gasp, Texas.”
Which was true. Nowhere did I make any prediction that trump would win or come close to winning Texas. I did not even mention how close some of the Texas polls were, mainly because I didn’t believe them.
Keep looking, Amy.
Just to put the finishing touch on this Amy, you said:
“Remember that time the Trumpkins here…”
Here has meaning. It indicates “here at LI”, not there at some other place.
Then there were these nuggets of disinformation:
“The Trumpkins were ecstatically predicting that Trump would win Cruz’s home state of Texas.”
“(FACT: Trump didn’t win Oklahoma, despite all your predictions — Cruz did)”
“Up until January 24th, all the polls had him winning Texas, and Trump and his poll dancers were making much of that.”
“but that’s not going to change the fact that y’all were wrong… again.”
Do you wish to admit you were mistaken?
Or, do we need to place you in the Trump loves you category?
What does the Trump juggernaut mean? That is not for me to decide. If you’re smart enough to read this, you’re smart enough to decide for yourself what it means. But one way or another, it’s not a good sign. As I said when Obama was re-elected, we are Doomed Beyond All Hope of Redemption. Does anyone now doubt we are doomed?
—Robert Stacy McCain, conservative
See, conservative are no fooled by the fraudster, Mr. Establishment.
http://twitchy.com/2016/03/02/trump-hits-so-called-conservatives-who-dont-credit-planned-parenthoods-good-work-video/
“So-called conservatives…???”
What a duschen bag.
#NEVERTrump
Ever.
How ’bout this true conservative, one you voted for:
In a debate during his 1994 race against Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy, Romney said, “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.” Referring to the 1973 Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal in every state, Romney added, “I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, it should be sustained and supported. And I sustain and support that law and support the right of a woman to make that choice.”
In his 2002 campaign for governor, Romney said during a debate, “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/19/politifacts-guide-mitt-romney-and-abortion/
I missed the part in the the midst of the primary that Romney won where he was praising Planned Abortionhood and attacking others more stanch than he as “so-called conservatives”.
You lying, destracting, deflecting supporter of a stinking, lying Collectivist thug and fraud.
“Romney said, “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.” Referring to the 1973 Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal in every state, Romney added, “I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, it should be sustained and supported. And I sustain and support that law and support the right of a woman to make that choice.””
Hurts doesn’t it ragspisser, to be pointed out as the hypocrite you are.
I missed the part in the the midst of the primary that Romney won where he was praising Planned Abortionhood and attacking others more stanch than he as “so-called conservatives”.
You lying, destracting, deflecting supporter of a stinking, lying Collectivist thug and fraud.
Ragspisser, maybe you just aren’t very bright.
Your boy Romney supported PP and NARAL:
In the spring of 2002 Romney completed a Planned Parenthood questionnaire. Signed by Romney and dated April 9, 2002, it contained these responses:
Do you support the substance of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade? YES
Do you support state funding of abortion services through Medicaid for low-income women? YES
In 1998 the FDA approved the first packaging of emergency contraception, also known as the “morning after pill.” Emergency contraception is a high dose combination of oral contraceptives that if taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, can safely prevent a pregnancy from occurring.
Do you support efforts to increase access to emergency contraception? YES
Romney also completed the questionnaire of the National Abortion Rights Action League, or NARAL (now called NARAL Pro-Choice America), with this statement:
I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government’s. The truth is no candidate in the governor’s race in either party would deny women abortion rights. So let’s end an argument that does not exist and stop these cynical and divisive attacks that are made only for political gain.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/mitt-romneys-conversion/article/14346
I missed the part in the the midst of the primary that Romney won where he was praising Planned Abortionhood and attacking others more stanch than he as “so-called conservatives”.
You lying, destracting, deflecting supporter of a stinking, lying Collectivist thug and fraud.
I do like the fact that you don’t mind looking stupid in front of an audience.
Kudos, trump loves you too. 🙂
Unfortunately for the terminally deranged, trump won big. But, hey, keep spinning. There is always hope.
The spinning sound you hear is the nation being flushed out to sea from the Titanic Trumph head.
The sad thing, Jennifer, is that I have no doubt you have convinced yourself of this.
You and Trumph’s WC janitor are in the same boat.
They call Butt-hurt Barri “The Plunger”…
I like it, plunging the scourge of the GOPe from America.
Good deal.
Ragspiss.
TRUMP DOMINATES WITH HUGE TURNOUTS, WIDE BASE OF SUPPORT
WASHINGTON, D.C. (AP) — Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump continues to demonstrate a wide base of support, riding record turnouts to seven victories out of the 11 states where Republicans cast Super Tuesday ballots.
Exit polls conducted for the Associated Press and other media across nine of the states showed Trump drawing significant support across educational, ideological, age and income classifications. Perhaps most important for Trump: Even among voting groups where he was weakest, he maintained enough strength to deny Sens. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio any chance of catching him.
It was a repeat of the billionaire businessman’s performance in February, when he won three of the first four nominating contest. On Tuesday, he added states as disparate as Vermont, Virginia and Alabama to his win column.
“We have expanded the Republican Party,” Trump gloated Tuesday night in his victory speech.
Indeed, Republicans vote totals exceeded 2012 primary numbers in every state but Vermont. Certainly, several states held later primaries four years ago, drawing less interest. But some increases were nonetheless eye-popping: 386 percent in Virginia, 261 percent in Arkansas, 154 percent in Tennessee.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_HOW_IT_HAPPENED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-03-02-17-02-52
If the polls are to be believed, voting for Trump in the primary says #ReadyForHillary in the general.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html
Cruz can beat her. Rubio can beat her. Trump can’t.
But at least you will have taught that awful GOP a lesson. WTG Trumpkins.
Those polls are not to be believed. They are based on incorrect assumptions about voter mix and voter turnout that completely fail to account for Trump’s expansion of the gop voter turnout and crossover appeal. They also fail to account for Trump’s unique ability to drive up his favorables while driving down Hillary’s.