Another Government Shutdown Countdown (Update: House passes #CRomnibus)
The epic Battle of Cromnibus rages on.
UPDATE: The House passed the massive spending bill.
Looks like Senate short term vote tonight and vote tomorrow on bill:
Reid: #Senate will pass short-term CR tonight to ensure the govt stays open & will turn to #CRomnibus tomorrow, vote on it asap. cc @CQnow
— Sarah Chacko (@sarahheartsnews) December 12, 2014
MERRY CROMNIBUS: bill passes w exactly one extra vote. (Got 219) More than 60 Republicans voted no.
— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) December 12, 2014
You know what comes next:
And now: The airing of grievances!
— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahNRO) December 12, 2014
Boehner just took the floor to say 'Merry Christmas.' Yes, a big gift to Democrats on amnesty. And Obamacare. 114th Congress already a mess.
— Joseph Curl (@josephcurl) December 12, 2014
#cromnibus passes. #businessasusual pic.twitter.com/TFeFJwNbxI
— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) December 12, 2014
57 Democrats voted for the Omnibus in the House pic.twitter.com/sojQJboQeI
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) December 12, 2014
The 67 Republicans who voted against #CRomnibus (via @VoteCruncher ) pic.twitter.com/lHsbXe0OEm
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) December 12, 2014
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Before the vote:
The clock is ticking toward midnight, and we’ve gotten exactly nowhere on getting the “cromnibus” spending bill passed. Both caucuses are whipping furiously both for and against the bill (bipartisanship?) and even President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden have picked up the phone to try to convince embattled Democrats to ok the spending provisions.
Rumors are flying, however, that worries over Republican leadership agreed to pull the cromnibus bill:
I’m hearing from two sources, including one Republican lawmaker, that Representative Marlin Stutzman (R., Ind.) provided one of the final, decisive votes needed to clear a crucial procedural hurdle because House leadership promised to pull the cromnibus and replace it with a short-term continuing resolution that would push the entire funding debate into next year.
An aide to House speaker John Boehner says he made no such pledge. Stutzman’s office did not reply immediately to a request for comment.
Rank-and-file Republicans who want the House to withhold funding for President Obama’s executive orders on immigration proposed such a short-term CR during a conference meeting Wednesday, but Boehner told them that Senate Republicans opposed the idea.
“The fact that the House has recessed tells me leadership is worried,” the House Republican source says, noting that they also had to recess during the summer border crisis fight — when a conservative revolt, rather than a Democratic one, forced them to modify their proposals. “That tells me that they are reevaluating,” the lawmaker suggests, with the likeliest options being whether to stick with the cromnibus as written or move to a short-term continuing resolution.
This thing narrowly passed (214-212—they closed the vote just as enough votes ticked up in favor of proceeding) a procedural vote, so I can see why leadership would be worried at this point. I think it’s fair and wise for them to step back and survey the landscape; Republicans may not have produced the most desirable funding bill to ever hit the hopper, but the Speaker’s office has rightfully laid claim to key provisions that actually work in favor of conservative policies. Incrementalism may be frustrating, but I’m not necessarily willing to flush an appropriations bill that actually (finally, miraculously) moves the ball down the field simply because it doesn’t contain provisions to address and put to rest every issue that Harry Reid has refused to let the Congress address.
You will be able to watch the vote here, when it finally happens.
Here we go, people. It’s officially on.
WE HAVE CLOCK REPEAT WE HAVE CLOCK pic.twitter.com/tYltTkT5an
— Todd Zwillich (@toddzwillich) December 11, 2014
Update:
The House is voting! I repeat, the House is voting!
Yeas have a comfortably thin 20 vote lead, but we wouldn’t have had to sit here until 9:15 if this were an easy get for the Whip.
.@SpeakerBoehner, to @WaPoSean and others as he entered House chamber: "I'm a happy warrior."
— Ed O'Keefe (@edatpost) December 12, 2014
More Dems bucking Pelosi to back this bill: Lowey, Moran, George Miller, Norcross, Sean Maloney, Dan Maffei (who lost in 2014)
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) December 12, 2014
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“. . . tells me leadership is worried, the House Republican source says,. . .”. I really wish they would stop using the term, “leadership” when referring to this group – it’s embarrassing.
Well said!
Even the PowerLine guys, who are about as mainstream as you can get, are expressing disbelief that the Repub “leadership” is not showing more of a backbone.
Maybe “disbelief” is too strong, perhaps “puzzlement”.
Re: Boehner’s backbone….. I’ve never shown a talent for violin, crochet, or brain surgery. Because I haven’t any.
Good point. I think they should call it the Octopus Spending Bill.
Appeals only to suckers. Is full of ink that obscures its real purpose. It has its tentacles into things it shouldn’t have dealing with. Grows in dark and hidden places. And it shows no backbone.
Or, the Cannibus Spending Bill. It eats the American taxpayer alive.
Why do you think they possess a backbone to show? I’ve seen no evidence of it. All Speaker Naomi Boehner seems to be able to do is cry and yes-man Obama.
I don’t care what’s in the bill. They shouldn’t fund FY15 until they have the majority. Just CR to Feb 15 or so.
Frankly, I think Boehner is more afraid of having to go through a real budgetary process with a GOP majority Senate. He won’t be able to look like a statesman then with his nose stuck in Barry’s backside.
It’s over. Remind me, why did we vote GOP?
How is this a surprise? When have the Republicans ever made the state smaller?
If you can keep your head, when all about you
are losing theirs, and blaming it on you…..
R. Kipling
I think this country has been very fortunate to have John Boehner, both as House Minority Leader and as Speaker of the House.
Valerie, please explain. (No, I didn’t down-thumb you).
These 11th-hour deals slay me. In addition to capitulating to 5M+ new welfare recipients, the bill puts taxpayers on the hook for upcoming Wall Street losses on its hedge schemes known as “derivatives.” This is crony “capitalism” at its finest and will possibly cost us 10x the EBT cards and ObamaCare receipts. In turn, from the “bill,” Wall Street can now donate 10x to the NRSC and other establishment funds to elect more Boehners. Just ducky. Always follow the money trail.
Ah yes, Boehner knows what’s best for the little people. We should all be thankful that he ignores our silly cries for smaller government and less spending.
Well, at least there’s a budget. That’s progress. Now when Obama goes on liberal spending sprees, he will no longer be running mere deficits, but will be technically over budget. That’s progress. I think.
How everyone in the GOP base does not go “Ferguson” on the GOP and grab Pee Wee Prebus by his ankles and use him to beat Squeaker Boehner senseless is beyond comprehension.
As Neville Chamberlain will forever be associated with principally enabling Hitler’s devastation, Boehner will be remembered for the destruction Obama has wreaked — and has planned – for our nation.
Every day Boehner remains as Squeakre is surreal.
This just happened, and it is a long way to DC. Give us time. Just left our TEA Party meeting, and ropes and lamp posts were topics of conversation. Open question: What reason is there to even pretend that voting for Republicans is different than voting for Democrats?
Was there talk of going 3’rd party? Can we get a 3’rd party in place now?
Hell, I’d settle for a 2nd party.
Actually, the way it was phrased was “SECOND Party”. We have some things to sort out in January-February, so the decision locally may be made shortly after that.
Damn John Boehner to hell.
I think it odd that the White House had no problem allowing the modification of Dodd-Frank to allow what Liz Warren claims are the reason for the Great Recession .. or were derivatives the cause or merely a secondary domino ?
Would anybody believe that Barack Obama would be willing to risk a second onset of the Great Recession ?
We all know that federal GSE’s held or originated more than 50% of subprime loans at the onset of the Great Recession. The White House now seems to have removed any doubt to where the downturn originated.
Bingo. As QE is done and the next downturn is inevitable, Wall Street just sealed one of its parachutes.
Betrayal.
I’ll listen to anything anyone has to say. BUT I will NOT suspend critical thought.
And right now, this appears to be a betrayal.
I just sent Boehner a blistering email and it was returned with the message: “recipient’s mailbox is full; try again later”. I am sure he will ignore those the same as he did those who voted last November.
And what, exactly, are the differences between ‘CRomnibus’ and the Ryan-Murray budget deal forged last year – to cover spending through the end of this FY, 9/30/15?
1. It only funds the HS through February, the department which oversees ICE and immigration activities
2. It stops some of the restrictions on banking from Dodd-Frank, including some derivative trading.
3. It comes in under the year’s agreed budget target and slightly reduces discretionary domestic spending from current year levels.
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In a nutshell, we adhered to the bipartisan deal passed last year, and the changes are in our favor.
Does it make sense to draw your lines in the sand in the final days of Reid’s dictatorship of the Senate? The only outcome of the so-called conservative demands would be a shutdown.
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Again, I ask, what was the plan after the Stage One Goal of the shutdown was achieved? Never saw any.
A shutdown with no viable follow-up isn’t a plan. It’s a tantrum.
So why wouldn’t any of you shutdown proponents share the grand strategy? Is it because you have none?
Temporarily fund the government until the Senate flips and then we can see what the republicans are really made of.
Nothing wrong at all with giving the bums we just threw out of office one last chance to screw up our nation. Just think how much could go wrong if we pretended to shut down our government for a few weeks.
And what, exactly, are the differences between ‘CRomnibus’ and the >>Ryan-Murray budget deal forged last year – to cover spending through the end of this FY, 9/30/15?
Ryan-Murray raised taxes and abandoned the sequester.
>>>1. It only funds the HS through February, the department which oversees ICE and immigration activities
It fully funds Obamas Amnesty. When has the GOP ever cut spending?
>>>>2. It stops some of the restrictions on banking from Dodd-Frank, including some derivative trading.
Putting the Taxpayer on the hook via the FDIC. Think TARP III With a vengeance.
This is typical GOP privatizing profits and socializing risks. Its one of the big reasons we hate you.
>>3. It comes in under the year’s agreed budget target and slightly reduces discretionary domestic spending from current year levels.
Yep, 1.3 Trillion was it? I remember when our budgets where in the low billions. But you call this progress. Here, pull the other finger.
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>>In a nutshell, we adhered to the bipartisan deal passed last year, and the changes are in our favor.
Yay! A Bi-partisan sellout. The Ruling Class–both Dem and Republican working to screw over Country Class Americans.
>>Does it make sense to draw your lines in the sand in the final days of Reid’s dictatorship of the Senate? The only outcome of the so-called conservative demands would be a shutdown.
Absolutely it makes sense. You just one a landslide, Obama is massively unpopular, Obamacare is massively unpopulare, Amnesty Is hugely unpopular. Bailing out the banks is hugely unpopular.
You have huge popular support, a loooong time til the next election cycle and a massively unpopular Obama.
It makes perfect sense if you actually support repealing Obamacare, defunding Amnesty, and rejecting Crony Capitalism.
It makes ZERO sense if you are you. But, then, you are a Republican.
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>>Again, I ask, what was the plan after the Stage One Goal of the shutdown was achieved? Never saw any.
heh. you have the house an the Senate. you have no imagination or will to win–win Teaparty principles anyway of limited, government.
>>A shutdown with no viable follow-up isn’t a plan. It’s a tantrum.
lose the disqualifying words, schmuck-o. There is already serious talk of revolution in this country. It ain’t a tantrum to defend our freedom and liberty from all threats foreign and domestic.
>>So why wouldn’t any of you shutdown proponents share the grand strategy? Is it because you have none?
See above.
Ouch, lol. Nice work.
So why do I expect Harry Reid to rip out all the good stuff, stick in more bad stuff, pass it, and then whine at top volume when the Republicans object?
67 That’s the number of seats the TEA Party controls in this Congress. No surprise here: the rest of the R’s work for the Chamber of Commerce which has been pushing Amnesty all along.
Don’t forget: nothing changes until we get a majority of the majority. Next Congress, we’ll have maybe 100 seats, and the RINO’s will have about 150, so crap like this will still pass for the next two years and we aren’t going to win the leadership fights either.
But, we’re getting closer each election. Just need 51% of the R controlled seats and they we control the leadership and set the agenda.
Aarradin: We wont live long enough. They pick off a few, we get a few more — it is an asymtotic curve, never getting there. I am done. This is about them, not us and will never change for most of them . Over 1/2 of the Senate is over 70. About 1/4 of the House. They are about Power, not governing. It is a pit of snakes and I am surprise any good person will even run for office.
Stutzman was one of the last Republicans to cast his ballot in favor of a rule allowing the House to vote on the cromnibus. National Review Online reported that Stutzman backed the rule at the last minute after leadership told him that they would pull the cromnibus, once the rule was passed, and replace it with a short-term continuing resolution favored by rank-and-file conservatives. With the last-minute help of Stutzman and outgoing Representative Kerry Bentivolio (R., Mich.), leadership won the vote 214-212.
—NR Morning Jolt
If that’s true, “leadership” flat-out lied to get the rule passed.
I recently moved to Boehner’s 8th District in Ohio and I couldn’t live with myself voting for him. I voted for the Democrat, whoever he was. Does that make me a bad person?
Boehner/Democrat.. same thing. You are forgiven.
And understood, and sympathized with.
A great tragedy occurred.
Historians will look back at this event and wonder with amazement how GOP voters tolerated a raging fool and backstabber like Squeaker Boehner.
It will be as great a wonderment then as it is now.