Glenn Greenwald appeared on Meet The Press this morning.

The interview is garnering headlines, mostly for David Gregory’s suggestion that Greenwald is not a real journalist and question as to why Greenwald should not be prosecuted.

Not being prosecuted, of course, is something David Gregory knows a lot about.

Here’s the first part of the interview:

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The McClatchy story referenced by Greenwald reveals the complete paranoia of the Obama administration about secrecy not only as to “secret” but as to just about everything, Obama’s crackdown views leaks as aiding enemies of U.S.:

Even before a former U.S. intelligence contractor exposed the secret collection of Americans’ phone records, the Obama administration was pressing a government-wide crackdown on security threats that requires federal employees to keep closer tabs on their co-workers and exhorts managers to punish those who fail to report their suspicions.

President Barack Obama’s unprecedented initiative, known as the Insider Threat Program, is sweeping in its reach. It has received scant public attention even though it extends beyond the U.S. national security bureaucracies to most federal departments and agencies nationwide, including the Peace Corps, the Social Security Administration and the Education and Agriculture departments. It emphasizes leaks of classified material, but catchall definitions of “insider threat” give agencies latitude to pursue and penalize a range of other conduct.

Government documents reviewed by McClatchy illustrate how some agencies are using that latitude to pursue unauthorized disclosures of any information, not just classified material. They also show how millions of federal employees and contractors must watch for “high-risk persons or behaviors” among co-workers and could face penalties, including criminal charges, for failing to report them. Leaks to the media are equated with espionage.