So writes Caroline Glick:
After participating last week in a debate in London about Israeli communities beyond the 1949 armistice lines organized by the self-consciously pretentious Intelligence Squared debating society, I can now say from personal experience that Amis is correct. The public atmosphere in England regarding Israel is ugly and violent….
A couple of impressions I took away from the experience: First, I can say without hesitation that I hope never to return to Britain. I actually don’t see any point. Jews are targeted by massive anti-Semitism of both the social and physical varieties. Why would anyone Jewish want to live there?
As to visiting as an Israeli, again, I just don’t see the point. The discourse is owned by anti-Israel voices. They don’t make arguments to spur thought, but to end it, by appealing to people’s passions….
At another point, I was asked how I defend the Nazi state of Israel. When I responded by among other things giving the Nazi pedigree of the Palestinian nationalist movement founded by Nazi agent Haj Amin el Husseini and currently led by Holocaust denier Mahmoud Abbas, the crowd angrily shouted me down.I want to note that the audience was made up of upper crust, wealthy British people, not unwashed rabble rousers. And yet they behaved in many respects like a mob when presented with pro-Israel positions….
One positive note, I had a breakfast discussion last Wednesday morning with activists from the Zionist Federation of Britain. The people I met are committed, warm, hardworking Zionists. I wish them all the best, and mainly that means, that I hope that these wonderful people and their families make aliyah.While their work is worthwhile, there is no future for Jews in England.
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Wow… It’s stunning to see this in our world again… It’s truly terrifying even to those of us who aren’t Jewish.
I think these people are pro-muzzies who also have Christians in their sights.
“Never again” used to mean a lot of people of good will would stand in the breach.
Increasingly, it will be only SOME Jews, and a few of the rest of us.
In the 60s, who would have believed this…???
“Sophisticated” elites who are progressively (wordplay intended) surrendering their countries to barbarians cannot abide a nation which resists the savages.
Well stated! The elite are nothing more than well dressed barbarians who have accumulated tokens of wealth, otherwise spiritually bankrupt and insensitive to anything other than their own lusts for power.
Just after WW 2 the Jewish state was carved from at the time territory controlled by the Brits. None, of the “pretty people ” wanted them near. Given this post I wonder if the Brit, “pretty people, upper crust ” didn’t deliberately do this so history would finish the job their German cousins started.
Written by Tom Petty and Jeff Lynn, sounds better from the man in black and positively appropriate.
http://youtu.be/ZMycFu4esas
http://youtu.be/_IJw9jid5Yk This is the man in black not a cover of a cover.
C’mon lefties, blame the Jews! You know you want to. Of course that’s tricky, especially if you’re Jewish. But here’s how:
You get the drift. Take it from here. Practice makes perfect.
Things are really backwards when Israel’s greatest defenders are a bunch of red neck flyover country Christian gun clingers and not university professors whose names end in “stein” or “burg”, followed by the initials Phd.
See Hava Nagila Texas style….
http://tinyurl.com/qs4h5j
Gotta LOVE Kountry Klezmer…
Derangement is the right word for it.
I will support Israel as well as Christians in this onslaught of deranged deluded decadent neo-Nazi fascists (that is what they are, really).
Surprising that the crowd that was the most loudly and openly deluded was the ‘upper crust’.
The UK is too decadent for me. I’ve been shocked by the level of libertinism in the UK.
The black plague of abortion has created severely hardened hearts in the West – people of every socio-economic level – from the hood to Hollywood have become cynical and inhumane about love, sex, marriage, life and children.
Even married couples are having abortions after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd baby.
Here’s an example of what I mean by decadence in the UK:
http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/2013/01/22/diane-abbott-british-culture-increasingly-pornified/
http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/2013/01/19/the-corruption-of-a-generation/
http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/2013/01/11/contraceptive-culture-usurps-parental-consent/
Many young women have had multiple abortions by the time they leave their teens. (couldn’t find that link)
Sin creates a hard heart and a darkened disoriented mind and this is what allows the abhorrent racism, hatred and anti-semitism and anti-Americanism…that and decades of Islamist/communist Alinsky style propaganda.
Remember, Soros practiced his crafts in Britain (and almost brought down their economy/currency) before he began to grace the US with his nefarious efforts. Who knows what kind of media filth he promoted there.
If he is a Jew, you could factually say it’s all a Jew’s fault and a Jew runs the media, because Soros literally does. He’s truly a despicable deluded pawn of satan.
My God, what is this insane obsession among the left in Europe and America with demonizing Israel?
It is a sick, sick obsession. For Caroline Glick to say she hopes never to return to Britain again speaks volumes. I don’t have any desire to visit a kind of place where Jews don’t feel welcome and safe. What’s happening to this world?
It seems this is a trend and I found this saved in my favorites folder after a long search:
“An American in London,” by Carol Gould.
A taste:
“I went to my favorite tape duplicating shop to have copies made for the actors who had appeared in the video of my new play in London. I handed the master tape to the proprietor, whom I have known for some ten years. He seemed unusually agitated and flushed. He looked at the material and snarled, ‘Is this another one of your Jewish-Holocaust things?’ I was speechless. He scowled and continued, ‘You know, Carol, I want to get something off my chest that I’ve been dying to say to you for years. Number one, just don’t say Israel to me. Number two, you people should look at yourselves in the mirror and wonder why every so often there is a Holocaust or massacre or pogrom. You bring it on yourselves. Just look at the way you are and then figure out why the rest of the world wants to flatten you. Number three, America throwing money at Israel has to stop, and hopefully all hell will break loose. Israel is not a country. I just hear the word and I turn peuce.’”
Read the whole thing:
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=11032
I did it again !
My post on the Isreali election posted at 5.03 on the blog timeline is just about this very thing – how weird the British left acolytes are .
I went for a swim & got a cherry ( label says limited edition) Zero & sat down to see this at 5 , 17.
I am going away to gloat & then return with some historical perspective.
A good many Jews have allowed themselves to be use by leftists, who in turn eventually spit them out. Stalin was a good example: they built his hydrogen bomb, then he imprisoned them or sent them to die in gulags.
We’re dealing with the same vermin at the highest levels of our own government. The problem we have in the US is that a very significant portion of the US Jewish population no longer identify themselves with Judaism, but with leftism. (See the Hollywood telephone directory.) Non Jewish leftists will never see them that way.
Secular former Jews have unwittingly signed their own death warrants by their support for the lunatics now in power in the US. Now, they’re trying to sign mine and yours.
There is a Torah movement, a return to observance of the Torah…but I don’t know how wide-spread it is.
Quotes from numerous Muslim leaders over the years regarding the invention of the Palestinian people for the purpose of taking Israel from the Jews.
http://www.therightscoop.com/myjihad-is-to-expose-the-palestinian-myth/#comment-773370707
The first people ever called Palestinians were Jews – 2000 years ago by the Romans.
The Lunatic-in-Charge seems to doing his best here in the States AND on the world stage. Something tells me that Mr. I-Me, didn’t call Netanyahu on his victory, imagine that..
Oh and what was that that Alinky’s little Hillary, supposedly screamed at an aide?
“f—ing Jew b——” after Bill Clinton lost his race for Congress 26 years ago passed a lie-detector test arranged by the New York Post.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/810600/posts
AlinSky..
“So I called him a @#$%ing Jew bastard? What difference does that make now?”
-Hillary Clinton
Hillary is the Planned Parenthood heroine, the Margaret Sanger award recipient. In Madame Hillary’s hard little heart, human life is just a mass of cells to be eliminated at will. Likewise, Jews and Christians and anyone else who won’t/don’t toe the Political Correct (aka Punitive Conformity) line can and should be dealt with accordingly. Think of her as a blonde aging female English-speaking version Kim Jong Il/Un or Hitler.
I’ve been wondering why the English can’t seem work themselves out of their malaise where the genocide of their own white race is concerned. Evidently all their passion – what there is of it – is being funneled into hatred for jews.
What a tragedy, all the way around.
(And why the h*ll there isn’t a flourishing gun running trade off the English coast, is a mystery to me. These are very VERY different people than I was brought up believing they were.)
When you think about it, they are the ones who were living here in 1776 and were OK with everything King George was doing.
What makes you think there ISN’T a thriving trade in guns to Albion?
I’m sure the various “sharia enforcement zones” are quite well armed.
Actually during the recent riots , the mostly west Indian / white working class ravers were promptly sent packing from Muslim areas. Muslim shopkeepers drove them out with brooms & ran them down with shovels.
Most Brits thought they did a super job.
The current great white genocide is abortion. Being promoted globally as ‘women’s health’ initiative by the UN and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, along with other super-wealthy abortion believer ‘philanthropists’ like Buffett and Ted Turner.
With Feinstein’s firearms ban and with her intention and Obama’s too, most likely, to confiscate all or most extant firearms, Ms Glick’s statement about England applies to the USA too. Also, this time it’s not just the Jews, it’s everyone who opposes Obama’s collectivist agenda and goals. His goals are the same as every Socialist head of state since the beginning of time; total control over the population and total put down of those who might oppose that effort. Oh, and while Lenin somewhat tolerated some who seemed to agree with him, that tolerance was short lived and always subject to his whim or that or others in power.
It’s very likely that by 2016, our Constitution will be under great stress simply to exist as a set of our principles and governmental definitions. We might need help and it won’t come from the England of a Chamberlain nor from a France of a Hollande, we can only depend on ourselves so we must stand firm, even if alone.
I think that considering the brain power and resourcefulness and character that comprises most people on our side, we we can go it alone.
You are all over reacting.
Firstly it is Caroline & she likes to get reactions like that. The term Zionist means many things to many people. It is always going to have an abrasive edge.
Secondly Israel committed a big mistake in blythly forging foreign passports that would later be used iby assassination squads. All of these nations abstained from supporting Israel at the recent Palestinian UN vote. I am aware of a lot of anger to Israel even by Jewish persons in these communities.
Thirdly – except for the Mass exile by a 13 th century king because he owed them a lot of gold , Jews have been able to settle & prosper in Britain . There have been waves from The Middle east , Catholic persecutions of Spain & Italy & the pogroms of Eastern Europe.
One time there were problems was 1915 – 38 when Jews were closely linked to revolutions in Russia & anarchism in Germany. Then the problem of being German spies / infiltrators arose. Yet many more Jewish found sanctuary including trainloads of unaccompanied children.
As for the ‘upper crust’ it is about the legendary money squabbles between Gentiles & Jews. shakespeare did not conjure up Sherlock out of thin air. it just is .British are very big mercantile / banker set & carrying some serious GFC losses.
Not that they don’t lose fortunes regularly with Lloyd’s !
I think this is a case of. Watching rather than jumping to some overarching theory.
Actually Israel did not just forge these passports , Israel preyed on Jewish visitors & scoured suitable persons / passport technologies to forge.
Mossad has given us great entertainment but It is not quite so entertaining when it is done to you.
Oh, come on! What was Mossad supposed to do? Go in to Bahrain with the agents’ real passports? Real Israeli passports? Of course they forged passports! Every intelligence agency forges passports.
As for “Israel preyed on Jewish visitors & scoured suitable persons / passport technologies to forge” – that phrase is much too sinister. Every foreign immigrant (at least that’s how it used to be) receives a visit from some “officials” who ask outright if they can receive the immigrant’s foreign passport after it expires. No explanation was given for why they requested the expired passports but none was needed. We ourselves had such a visit and declined the “offer” because we explained we still had family back in England and travelled there a lot. They accepted this explanation and we were never bothered by them again.
We know one of the “victims’ of the Mossad passport forgery personally and he never travels out of Israel. He was highly bemused to find himself on the front pages of the papers although of course the picture was not of him.
It was sloppy of the Mossad to keep the owners’ names on the passports, but the fact that they use such passports is not news to anyone.
I have followed the reactions to the passport. By Britain & Australia. neither were impressed. In parliament this gave the anti Israel MPs a power they had not previously been able to command. there really w a lot of public indignation.
further – a passport does not belong to the holder. I have one here & it says it is the property of The – Australian Government.
It says ….
he Governor General of The Commonwealth of Australia , being the representative in Australia of Her Majesty The Quen Elizabeth the second , requests all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford him or her every assistance and protection of which he or she may stand in need.
It doesn’t say – except for Israel who can steal this. To assassinatePalestinians they don’t like.
You think it has no consequences?
the Australian PM was intending to vote against recognition of Israel. Until she got rolled by her cabinet over that very passport thing. Britain also decided against voting against due to the same pressure.
That left only 8 votes on Israel’s side.
I personally am hoping the west does come to defend The Sinai but you can’t treat everyone like shit & trample every international protocol. We will turn a blind eye to a lot but there is a limit.
‘against recognition of Palestine ‘.
Watching… watching… until you’re watching from inside a cattle car on a train bound to Auschwitz II.
We live in a world of weapons of mass destruction and malignant cartoon characters for world leaders.
“Never again,” won’t mean “never again” by ‘watching.’
But what exactly do you propose we do ? Run over there & tell them to be nice to Caroline?
They both have nukes so Israel is not a defence less victim. If British Jewish citizens thought the desert was nicer over there , they would hop it to Tel Aviv.
They do not. They like to make money , do great medicine , be famous actors & be British.
Do great medicine? Then why does the entire nation have bad teeth?
Pakistanis & blacks have teeth that shine out of the glom like beacons . White genetics not so much but the English have good complexions.
The opposite of Florida – perfect teeth & leather skin.
As an ex-British Israeli, I would like to comment on some of your points:
See my reply to your next comment about the passports.
The British anti-Israel antagonism is nothing to do with money (except perhaps for some extreme anti-Semites on the fringe) and everything to do with White Guilt and anti-imperialism, with a dose of the New Religion, Human Rights, added to the mix.
The Jews, having turned from being the ultimate victims to becoming the ultimate victors within 60-odd short years and having built a thriving modern democracy and economy cannot be seen as anything other than “oppressors” of the poor downtrodden Palestinians.
You can add to this moral inversion anti-Semitic guilt over the Holocaust and glee at the Jews being compared to the Nazis over their purported “oppression”, together with the anger of the Brits at losing the British Mandate of Palestine to those pesky Jews – and – well – here is the result for all to see.
I would add that the human rights and anti-imperialism aspects of anti-Zionism (or is it anti-Israelism?) are pretty much universal throughout the world. British anti-Zionism is peppered with the anger over the Mandate etc.
Actually, very many British Jews are not simply “watching”. They are making aliya in their thousands. I work in an accountant’s office who specializes in UK-Israel taxation, and not a week goes by without at least one new client wishing to organize his tax affairs before making aliya. And we are just one office out of dozens if not hundreds.
It’s not exactly a flood of aliya, but it is definitely more than a trickle.
But still , it is absurd to state that there is no future for Jews in England.
Israel can always nuke Gibralter – that wil show’em.
We are NOT over-reacting – You are minimizing what is truly a life and death matter.
These people are so deluded and hardened with hatred that they could/would produce a second holocaust of global proportions. Not of just Jews and Christians this time around, but of anyone who dares dissent from the myth of global warming/climate change, carbon taxes, pansexual rights, abortion, even the right to porn, drugs, housing, gun control, centralized global economy/government/religion.
My comment was a response to BannedbytheGuardian.
Nah – they can’t cope with The Gilmoure Girl Murders in nice twee Conneticut. All choked up over Nuttin.
Bwahbwah- they wil need to do this 50 million times to get the first one billion out. Then there will be bound to be more that will annoy them.
Remember William Ayres called the cops when a reporter turned up at his door.eve though his wife raved about the Manson killings.
Nothing has really changed; Orwell saw this clearly when he named INGSOC’s hate-object “Goldstein.”
http://www.chiefrabbi.org/2013/01/09/the-future-of-judaism-a-lecture-by-chief-rabbi-lord-sacks/#.UQIBXaU8Fz8
Rabbi Sacks: “God creates order; we create chaos.”
Says it all.
It can all be traced back to the great mistake of Western Civilization from the late ’50s on: instead of giving aspiring Marxist professors in our institutions the gallows, we granted them tenure.
Why is anyone surprised at the result that our young people have been stripped of moral and civic values?
Boehnerism.
increasingly, it seems there is no future for the british in britain come the future
[…] (Via Prof Jacobson) […]
This is par for the course with te Brits. Read their history. Being Jewish in England has always even a high risk proposition, and the upper classes are notorious for their anti-Semitism.
There’s also this: I lay 50% of the blame for a lot of today’s anti-Semitism at the feet of anti-Israel Jews who love Communism more than they do Jewish survival, who love the Arabs who would slaughter them–and have the bloody nerve to say those Arabs are victims of Israel–more than they love their own lives. All Jews will reap what those have sown.
Today, the Muslims own the UK. There’s no more London; there’s Londonistan. They own the universities and, along with anti-Semitic Jews, have liberated upper class Brits from the post-Holocaust restraint on anti-Semitism.
Here in America, we, too, have become infected by the Arab sickness. Our universities pander and permit all manner of blood libel by Arabs. Democrats in our government have made anti-Semitism the order of the day, and the newspapers cheer and condemn Israel.
As for history, the Holocaust, Never Again, just words. Just speeches. The best I can tell my fellow Americans is to fight this noxious anti-Semitism to the end. Refuse to tolerate it wherever you find it. Condemn it from the rooftops even if you lose friends. Prepare special rooms in your houses as places of refuge to hide and help folks. It will come to that if we do not resist without all our might.
The Brits think that anti-Semitism will stop with the Jews. They are wrong. It will sweep us all away. For, when the Jews are gone, who will stand between us and the voracious maw of allah? Fight to the end.
“We keep moving so the muslims keep pushing.” Title appropriate for Israel’s situation too.
If Israel had never given up any conquered land (or compromised on Covenant compliance), well…
Seriously, “giving place to the devil” (Scripture reference) is the reason the devil gets to advance.
Isaiah 10:5 says G-D uses Assyria as a rod of discipline…it’s a Biblical principle.
Oh no – I forgot to close my link. Hope it doesn’t use up too many electrons, Professor.