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When Elizabeth Warren has lost Ed Schultz

When Elizabeth Warren has lost Ed Schultz

Via The Free Beacon, an Elizabeth Warren surrogate appeared on the Ed Show. What’s interesting is not just that the surrogate still insists that Warren has Native American heritage, but that Ed pushed her on it and basically says to fess up:

SCHULTZ: Wait a minute. Did she ever put down on an application that she was Native American? It’s fair question. And if she did, so what. It was years ago or whatever. But what they are trying to do is paint her out who is someone that is not credible, not telling the truth, hiding something, maybe took an advantage when she didn’t deserve it. I just think that needs to be addressed. When you pick up the largest newspapers in the country and they are writing about this, it would seem it’s disfocusing the campaign somewhat.

There are other shoes to drop.  I wish I could tell you more, but I can’t.  It’s just a matter of when.

Update:  Twila Barnes continues her genalogical work, and in a post today dispels the comparison made by defenders of Warren to Cherokee Chief Bill John Baker, who allegedly is only 1/32 Cherokee.  Barnes has tracked both families, and reports as follows:

Several  times, I have either read or heard [Warren] compared to  the Principal Chief of the  Cherokee Nation, Bill John Baker, because  some give her the benefit of the  doubt and say Warren might have the  same blood quantum as Baker. IF, and I  capitalized that on purpose,  because we are talking “big if” here, she actually  had a Cherokee  ancestor, and IF it was the ancestor she claims through, that  might be  true, but it isn’t….

Now we are starting to see a very big difference in the two families. Ms.  Warren’s is showing a very distinct pattern of living as whites while Chief  Baker’s is showing a very distinct pattern of living as Indians. We find Ms.  Warren’s great grandfather listed as white on five different documents. We find  Chief Baker’s great grandmother listed as Indian and/or Cherokee numerous times  on many different documents.

And this meme will continue to grow:

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Comments

Flyover Conservative | May 22, 2012 at 8:43 am

Professor, no fair! Just leave us in suspense waiting for that other shoe. 🙂 I’ve run out of popocorn following this identity politics liberal fiasco. The twisting these folks have done make a pretzel seem straight.

    Harvard received nearly 35000 applications this year. When the number of Native Americans goes from something like 8 to 1500 by the fall for a freshman class of 1300, there will be a shoe dropped.

Doug Wright | May 22, 2012 at 8:48 am

What Tin Ear Lizzie is saying: “Ignore that issue! OBEY!”

To paraphrase an old saying: “Drop those other shoes when ready.” Heck, fire a salvo of dropped shoes, as many as possible.

“…it would seem it’s disfocusing the campaign somewhat.”

And, really…

who would know more about disfocusing than Ed Schultz…???

And that picture…the face of BSNBC.

You call her Warren…we call her LOSER!

wilsoncarroll | May 22, 2012 at 9:51 am

“This is what she was taught from the time she was a small girl . . .”

I was born in the 1950’s and grew up in the deep south. I was taught as small boy that the South fought for a Noble Cause in the War Between the States. At some point I figured out it was all B.S., though. Smart people can do that.

Also, my family lore had it that I was descended from a signer of the Declaration of Independence. Thought it was pretty cool, but I felt a little guilty bragging about it in an era of easy DNA tests, so I sent a cheek swab and a $100 check to FamilyTreeDNA just to confirm. Dammit. Wish I hadn’t done that.

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | May 22, 2012 at 9:59 am

One of Andrew Breitbart’s greatest contributions to conservatism activists and bloggers (among many) was teaching them how to keep a story alive so that it stays in the public consciousness. That’s really the ONLY way it will ever have an impact, because any story that either benefits conservatives or hurts liberals will either be ignored altogether by the predominantly liberal media, or they will give the story so little attention that it quicky fades away and will not matter. The woman in that video seems truly exasperated that they can’t make the story go away.

Let’s just hope the shoes that keep dropping are being worn by a centipede.

Breitbart is here.

stevewhitemd | May 22, 2012 at 10:03 am

Schultz (who knows nothing): Did she ever put down on an application that she was Native American? It’s fair question.

Yes it is, and so far Harvard Law and Penn Law won’t tell us, and Prof. Warren won’t release her own records. So we have to guess. But the evidence available to date appears to be damning. When you check the ‘NA’ box in the AALS Faculty Directory, you’re advertising yourself as being of a certain heritage. It’s not about lunch. It’s about access.

And if she did, so what. It was years ago or whatever.

That’s an apologia that no Republican would ever be allowed to put forward.

But there are two more important points: the first is, if she lied about this, about what else did she lie in her life? And second, has the lying stopped?

But what they are trying to do is paint her out who is someone that is not credible, not telling the truth, hiding something, maybe took an advantage when she didn’t deserve it.

That’s exactly the point, Ed, and that’s exactly what we’re trying to do. The reason is simple: Prof. Warren’s ‘reasons’ are not credible. She’s so far not telling the truth. She appears to have something to hide. She clearly took advantage of something she should not have done.

It’s not just taking advantage of ‘affirmative action’, some nebulous government program. It’s taking advantage of the person who otherwise would have been tendered the offer at Penn and at Harvard. We’ll never hear from that person, but he/she deserves our consideration.

It’s strange, isn’t it — a group, a party, an ideology that proclaims it’s commitment to “fairness” condones obviously unfair acts.

    stevewhitemd in reply to stevewhitemd. | May 22, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Ack: I commit one of the worst grammar errors.

    It’s strange, isn’t it — a group, a party, an ideology that proclaims its commitment to “fairness” condones obviously unfair acts.

They just don’t get it. At. All.

Professor: An intriguing post. This has become like one of those great serial movies — each installment is full of thrills, and you want to come back to find out what happens next. 🙂

LukeHandCool | May 22, 2012 at 11:14 am

Remember this from Charles Pierce of the Boston Globe?

“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

How about this, from Bernie Quigley, writing in The Hill:

“Elizabeth Warren might be excused for wanting to be Native American. She can claim an old American soul, going back generations in Oklahoma. In the heartland it is almost universal for those who have been there for a few generations to claim Indian blood; that is, to wish it were there even if it isn’t. It is not so much a lie as it is the acculturation of personal and regional American myth; the fabric of old-soul American consciousness. ‘Our spirit will walk among you,’ said Chief Joseph. Indeed it does.

Indians come to us as dream guides, spirit guides and, like Sacagawea, actual guides to our most important journeys at once physical and metaphysical …

… I hope Elizabeth Warren doesn’t back down on this, because wanting to be Indian, like Hawkeye, makes us in a deeper sense fully American.”

Is he questioning the patriotism of people who don’t lie about being Indian?

Read the whole thing. It’s unbelievable:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/228541-elizabeth-warrens-true-american-lineage

Haven’t Matt Damon and his cuz Ben Affleck got a clue yet, after their disappointed support of Obama, that their political instincts might be a tad confused?

Meanwhile, for women, great piece on the Kennedy clan: The real curse of the Kennedys — It’s their treatment of women

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