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Cincinnati Police Did Not Ask Attack Victim’s Name, Take Statement, Or Call an Ambulance

Cincinnati Police Did Not Ask Attack Victim’s Name, Take Statement, Or Call an Ambulance

Despite clearly needing urgent medical attention, Holly was left to call an Uber to get herself home.

The woman who was brutally beaten by a group of predominantly black individuals two weeks ago in downtown Cincinnati, Ohio, told her story to Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Thursday night. Holly’s jaw-dropping account — especially her recollection of the police officers who responded — should send a chill down the spine of every law-abiding citizen.

To recap, the assault began when a woman struck her. Moments later, a man punched her directly in the face, knocking her to the ground. She lost consciousness, and video footage showed blood streaming from her mouth.

Holly estimates that police arrived at the scene 15 to 20 minutes after the beatdown began. Her face was covered in blood. Photos taken the following day show her bruised and swollen — making it hard to fathom how she must have looked just minutes after the attack.

Yet, according to Holly, the officers never asked her name, took no statement, and failed to call an ambulance. Despite clearly needing urgent medical attention, she was left to call an Uber to get home. Once she was home and realized the extent of her injuries, she drove herself to the hospital.

While many bystanders were recording the attack, Holly said that none of them called 911, which baffled her. One of the victims, who was “curb-stomped,” was able to “sneak away” and call the police.

Ingraham asked Holly why she tried to intervene. She replied, “I heard a man crying on the street, [and] he looked at me and held out his hand. And [he] literally said, ‘Please, God, help me. Help me please, God.’ You can’t hear it in any of the videos because all you can hear is everybody on the street cheering each other on to curb-stomp these people, and to kick them and punch them and attack them while they were down.”

She continued, “I felt it was necessary to at least jump in, and try to help and save this man’s life. It looked like they were about to kill him, to me. And that’s why I couldn’t stand there and do nothing.”

“It was just ungodly. I cannot shake the images. It goes on a loop over and over. It keeps replaying. It was very traumatic.”

The punch that knocked her to the ground occurred during the melee. Before losing consciousness, she recalled feeling “afraid, terrified. I just remember my life flashing before my eyes, and all I can think is, ‘Dear God, I hope my children know that I love them.’”

Ingraham played a clip of Cincinnati Police Chief Terri Theetge addressing her department at the end of the weekend of the attack. It had been a busy weekend in the city.

Theetge said, “You made this — outside of this one incident — an amazing success for this city. It is because of your hard work that we are able to have such large-scale events here in Cincinnati.”

Her remark was the equivalent of the infamous quote, “Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”

Ingraham asked Holly if she looked at what happened as “an incident.” No, she replied, “I look at it as attempted murder. There’s no other way to describe it. It’s insulting to be honest.”

She noted that neither Theetge nor the city’s mayor reached out to her after the assault.

Next, Ingraham referenced the viral reaction to a Facebook post from Cincinnati City Council President Pro Tem Victoria Parks. Parks had written: “They begged for that beat down! I am grateful for the whole story.”

Questioned about her remarks, Parks told reporters that she stands by them: “I am a grown woman. What I wrote on the internet, I meant it. That’s the way I felt, and I’m not going to back down from it.”

It’s amazing she still has a job. Then again, look at who’s running the city.

Ingraham asked Holly how she would respond to Parks. She said, “I just want to know what kind of leadership you think this is showing to the rest of the people who are supposed to be serving and protecting. If you are encouraging this kind of behavior, then obviously no change is going to happen for the good. It’s gonna continue. … You’re part of the problem, not the solution.”

The two went on to discuss many other aspects of the attack, including the racial motivation of the perpetrators and the toll this has taken on Holly’s three children.

The interview exposed just how profoundly — and strangely — disconnected Cincinnati’s leaders are from the very people they’re meant to protect and serve. Holly’s story is more than a failure of leadership; it’s a failure of basic humanity. Confronted with clear and immediate suffering, both city officials and the police looked the other way. Not one of them could summon even the most fundamental act of decency. In the end, Holly was left to pick up the pieces alone.

Cincinnati can’t look away from this. The city must do better.


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At some point it stops being mere ignorance, stops being underfunding, and starts looking like their mission.

Victoria Parks should be socked in the face for her hateful bile. I’m not afraid to say it. That’s a story I’d be grateful for.

    BruceRawlings in reply to SeymourButz. | August 9, 2025 at 1:28 pm

    Ohio has constitutional carry and conceal carry.
    If these victims had each been carrying multiple firearms
    there would have been a different outcome.
    If you are the victim of an unprovoked life threating attack multiple strangers you have the right to fight back.

It’s normal black behavior, is the theory. It seems to be true too.

    JackinSilverSpring in reply to rhhardin. | August 8, 2025 at 6:24 pm

    I wonder when people are going to tell blacks behaving badly that enough is enough? Change the culture or face the consequences.

    tmm in reply to rhhardin. | August 9, 2025 at 3:11 pm

    For many of the black society this is common. The crime stats, levels of education and single parent families show this. The culture needs to change. How that happens- I have no answer.

The police did not call for an ambulance? I see a very big lawsuit against the City on the horizon.

    Nope. Police are under no legal obligation to do anything. See Riss v New York, Warren v District of Columbia, others. If you can, get a CHL and carry all the time. You, and only you, are responsible for your own safety.

      I am aware of a duty to all is essentially a duty to none. But they can be held liable if a special relationship exists.

        henrybowman in reply to EBL. | August 8, 2025 at 8:24 pm

        Yes, but you’ll never have that “special relationship.”
        The closest you might ever come is to be under arrest.
        Then they HAVE to protect you, because they have rendered you defenseless.

      I do not disagree with you regarding self defense.

      tlcomm2 in reply to Rusty Bill. | August 8, 2025 at 10:25 pm

      You cannot sue the ifficers individually but I think the city itself is fair game here, especially in light of the ignorant defamatory statements afterward

        TargaGTS in reply to tlcomm2. | August 8, 2025 at 11:12 pm

        Unfortunately, it is not. In addition to the case law cited above, there are other Court decisions that have essentially indemnified local and state government more broadly, not just individual officers/EMTs (see: DESHANEY v. WINNEBAGO CTY. SOC. SERVS. DEPT.(1989). Now, that’s not to say that the city wouldn’t offer some kind of settlement to smother the case early on because let’s be honest, it would be a BRUTAL case for the city if it was successful in getting the suit dismissed pre-trial (which is likely considering the strength of the existing binding precedent).

      Police are under an obligation to follow procedure.
      I do believe it’s procedure everywhere to call an ambulance for injured parties, unless they state they don’t need or want one.

      You would not have enough ammo to solve the number of attackers. Then, you would be kicked and beaten to death. Better to avoid areas where these threats could occur.

irishgladiator63 | August 8, 2025 at 5:51 pm

Release the body cam footage. Now.

I imagine the police were black

Even Jesse Jackson knows what thugs, animals black youth are
And not just youth

Aceofspadeshq

August 08, 2025

Judge Gives Leftwing Thugs a Hunting License to Beat Down Elderly Pro-Choice Protesters on the Street
—Ace

Josh Hawley @HawleyMO
Some thug brutally assaults two elderly prolife demonstrators — shoves one to the ground and beats him, all on camera — and gets “home detention” for a sentence from a liberal judge. This is not justice. This is open season on prolife Americans
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It’s okay. This thug beating the shit out of a senior citizen “just snapped” and was having a “bad day.”

Obviously black thugs — or antifa paramilitaries, or other leftwing scum — are allowed to give Street Reparations to any elderly white people they decided to beat nearly to death on the street. It’s what they’re owed because of George Floyd.

This black pastor wants the white victims of the Cincinnati mob arrested for not walking away. Don’t they know they’re supposed to obey the commands of black street thugs?

This is the Rubicon.

The Regime is making its last mistake when it calculates that half of the country will voluntarily agree to become a state-declared Prey Species for leftwing predators.

The corrupt woke Regime will not survive Two-Tier Policing. The public will not accept it.

This ain’t the UK.

A 28-year-old man who was caught on video attacking two pro-life activists outside a Planned Parenthood clinic in Baltimore was sentenced this week to a year of home detention and three years of probation.
Baltimore Circuit Judge Yvette M. Bryant rebuffed prosecutors’ calls for a 10-year sentence against Patrick Brice, 28, after he was found guilty of two counts of second-degree assault and reckless endangerment in relation to the May 2023 incident, according to The Baltimore Banner.

“What about my rights and my well-being?” one of the victims in the attack, Mark Crosby — who was 73 years old at the time — reportedly shouted at Bryant on Thursday as she left the bench.

Brice said on May 26, 2023, he intended to debate Richard Schaefer — the other victim, who was 84 — about the concept of sin outside the Planned Parenthood facility, but then lost it after Schaefer made what he perceived to be a racial remark, The Baltimore Banner reported. Surveillance video showed Brice shoving Schaefer into a flowerpot and then assaulting Crosby when he rushed to his aid.

“I just snapped one day,” Brice was quoted by The Baltimore Banner as saying in court Thursday before apologizing to both men.

As part of his sentence, Brice must complete anger management classes, undergo drug and alcohol screening and remain in therapy, the website added.

It also said Crosby suffered permanent damage to his right eye as a result of the assault.

“This was not a minor altercation between two parties with differing views on abortion. It was a vicious, targeted assault on two senior citizens whose only ‘offense’ was praying for expectant mothers and offering life-affirming alternatives to abortion,” Tom Brejcha, the President and Chief Counsel of the conservative law firm Thomas More Society, said in a statement.

“One of the victims was knocked unconscious. The other suffered broken facial bones and a lifelong eye impairment. This was an act of cowardice and cruelty, and sheer mayhem. This crime deserves far more serious consequences than a ‘get out of jail free’ card and a one-year home detention that amounts to nothing more than a slap on the wrist,” he added.
I’m not going to shy away from this any longer. Is my take racial? Yes it is. But the story is racial.

There is clearly a belief among members of the left, including many black politicians and judges, that black people should essentially be immunized from prosecution so long as they’re doing the important Violent Street Justice work of beating up white people.

We need to be clear: Whatever you hallucinated happening in the George Floyd case, no, you do not have the legal right to lynch white people on the street because you were “having a bad day.”

This cannot go on much longer.

The Media and a Mob in Cincinnati The racial narrative leads major news organizations to ignore a violent attack on two white people.
When a mob violently attacked two people in downtown Cincinnati last week, video of the beat-down spread across social media. But not a single major television network covered the story. It didn’t fit the mainstream media’s narrative about racial violence in America. The victims were white, and as of Wednesday police had arrested six black suspects for their alleged roles in the public pummeling.

Today’s media seems to conflagrate over violence only when the perpetrator is white and the victim is black. Then the cameras roll, protests erupt, and hashtags fly. But when the races are reversed, the mainstream media buries the incident or ignores it entirely. The same is true of black-on-black violence.

Consider the tragic case of Ariana Delane, the 4-year-old niece of George Floyd, who was shot and wounded while sleeping beside her grandmother as gunfire hit their apartment. Despite the horror of her story, it received nowhere near the national attention that followed her uncle’s death. Both the girl and Floyd deserved to live in peace, yet there is national outrage when a black man is killed at the hands of police but silence when black children are the collateral victims of the senseless violence plaguing our cities every day.

During a 2018 spike in violent incidents against Asian-Americans, journalists mostly ignored that blacks were the most frequent perpetrators. The truth would have broken the media’s worldview that black Americans are always innocent victims.

This racial gerrymandering of the facts mirrors the very injustices the media claim to hate in American history. In the Jim Crow South, if a black man committed an offense against another black man, he would face few consequences, if any–especially if the perpetrator worked for an influential white figure. Meanwhile, a black man who allegedly harmed a white person would face swift and brutal retribution. One hundred years later, we have flipped the script.

We teach our children that to be black is to be permanently victimized and that to be white is to be perpetually guilty.

Americans should renounce any schema in which one race is guilty and another innocent. That is the path to national ruin. Only if we disregard race in how we judge one another will we be able to address the real crisis in society: the spiritual and moral free-fall given to us by identity politics.

As the mainstream media chatters about systemic racism, our young people are dying of bullets, drugs, and despair. Atlanta saw 47 people shot and five killed over four days in July. Homicide and suicide are leading causes of death for 15- to 19-year-olds, and teen drug overdose deaths are still way up from before the pandemic. When our young are bombarded with claims that they live in a fundamentally racist society and that they are powerless pawns of systemic forces beyond their control, how can we expect them to have hope, to believe in moral agency, to work with others with grace and compassion toward a better world?

    henrybowman in reply to gonzotx. | August 9, 2025 at 1:43 am

    Rather than reprint the guy’s entire essay, and pork his ad revenue, it’s more polite to post a link and maybe an excerpt.

JackinSilverSpring | August 8, 2025 at 6:21 pm

Truly unbelievable. The rot in the Cincinnati police department starts at the top.

    Another day, another big city police force run by a DEI Chick Cop more concerned with social justice and equity than the law. Cities should really have learned their lesson by now and not put these women in any top job

destroycommunism | August 8, 2025 at 6:32 pm

and alll the cops that go along with that are

SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS

destroycommunism | August 8, 2025 at 6:38 pm

this has been going on now for decades

black on everyone crime stats are skewed so that the numbers dont tell us the realll story……

thats why they now wont give names, they can avoid it,,or release manifestos ,,unless it supports the lefts agenda of defeating white maga

not allowing the names of juvenile criminals allows that criminal to sit next to an innocent child in school…walk down the streets with the knowledge that they are in charge and YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE IN MORTAL DANGER

legally the names can be released and any jurisdiction that doesnt allow that info to be made public should be sued immediately …it is pure fluff to say as fact that rehabilitation is not possible when those names are released

now you can see how THAT has trickled down to include their older criminals…

THE WAR IS HERE ..ITS HAPPENING,,,

THE WHITE MSM IGNORES IT

THE ONES TO TELL THE TRUTH ARE LABLED AS RACIST

the time has come to end the lefts control

TRUMP GOT THE PBS/NPR NONSENSE STOPPED

why is trump the only one willing to do the right fair and equitable act??!!!

I am stunned that Cincinnati Police did not call an ambulance for this woman. Their total disregard for a citizen on the ground amounts to condoning the beating. And I think that’s the root of the problem. Neither the Police Chief one anybody else in authority could bring themselves to condemn mob beatings. Because, you know, racism. So they end up condoning racism by default. As long as it’s black on white. Really sickening.

Pension uber alles. The police are not your friends. They can be supportive of your rights in some situations, in others not. Act accordingly.

    henrybowman in reply to Paddy M. | August 8, 2025 at 8:30 pm

    There is no such thing as “the blue.” It is not an independent entity. If your local government supports you, your police will support you. If it oppresses you, your police will oppress you. By default, expect to be treated by police as you would be treated by paid mercenaries, and most of the time this expectation will serve you well.
    If you go into blue cities, do not expect help. It’s like expecting a 1941 Berlin cop to defend you from brownshirts.
    Douglas Adams: “Based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to White people is to get the hell away from Black people. Just get the (expletive) away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there’s no fixing this. This can’t be fixed.”

Cincinnati is a failed city. The actions of the police on the scene, the police chief, the chair of the city council and the mayor prove beyond any possible doubt that Cincinnati needs to be razed.

    Skyline Chili was the evidence of that, ages ago.

    CincyJan in reply to Rusty Bill. | August 9, 2025 at 10:53 am

    Not so. Democrats have slowly taken control of the city, and the results of that is showing. But businesses and private foundations have poured millions into downtown Cincinnati. The Banks, between the baseball and football stadiums along the river, has wonderful amenities – restaurants and bars for the adults, and a great playground in the adjacent river park for the kids. The river park also includes a carrousel, a “sprayground” with water fountains under the pavement for kids to run through, and a monumnent to Cincinnati’s own African-American Brigade in the Civil War.

    Across town, the city has cleaned up and fixed up Washington Park in front of Music Hall, so it is now a great place for family and kids. Our symphony started in 1895, and our opera company is the second oldest in the country. A far younger ballet company now has its own performance venue. Touring Broadway shows can be found at the Aranoff Center

    The Over The Rhine area (lots of German immigrants) is a hip area for foodies and artists. Combine all this with our three pro teams – the Reds, Bengals, and FC Cincinnati, all of whom play downtown.

    Cincinnati has everything going for it. Except its increasingly Democratic government … right now, dealing with the City looks increasingly discouraging. There are now public rumblings from the business community that people have to be assured it is safe to visit downtown. And they’re right.

      Idonttweet in reply to CincyJan. | August 9, 2025 at 1:07 pm

      It doesn’t really matter how much money (private and/or public) is spent on building amenities like parks, bars, entertainment venues, and shopping areas if it’s not safe to go there. This is especially true at night when entertainment venues and bars are busiest.

      Making it a clean place to get mugged, robbed, or killed doesn’t make me want to go there.

      City government from the mayor to the city council to the chief of police to the district attorney are responsible for this decay. They are excusing, defending, overlooking, or justifying this uncivilized behavior by a bunch of uncivilized thugs.

      In this case, where the police didn’t even bother to take the victim’s name or statement, certainly sounds like a dereliction of duty. There may not be a federal constitutional duty for police officers to protect people, but that does not foreclose a state constitutional or statutory obligation to at least carry out basic investigative duties.

      At the very least, bring the suit and make the city and police department publicly defend their actions and let the voters decide.

I think this might be the most disturbing story I’ve read on LI. My first impulse: buy an extended magazine for my carry weapon. Andrew Branca covered this story, and a victim of the black mob beatdown would be legally justified in using lethal force for self defense.

No one came to her aid. None of the spectators even called the police. The response from the police and city officials demonstrate how depraved the citizens of the city of Cincinnati have become. Somewhat similar to the murder of Kitty Genovese in 1964. Fortunately this time victim survived.

I see I now live in a society that has not only turned against its Jews, but white people too. We have an unstable situation. When white people finally wake up events will become very ugly.

“Cincinnati police did not ask attack victim’s name, take statement, or call ambulance”

Police chief maintained that officers followed proper protocol
1. Is victim black?
a. take name
b. take statement
c. call ambulace

2. Is victim white?
a. get back in patrol car
b. return to patrol

The reason that “crime is down” is blue state big cities has to do with the fact that 1) the police won’t respond to anything that doesn’t involve a dead body or gunfire 2) victims are told to file a report at the nearest police station 3) most victims understand that nothing will be done about that report, once filed. If a report is never filed, “Crime is Down!”

Even when police do respond and manage to make an arrest without themselves being assaulted, they recognize that Soros-sponsored “prosecutors” will either drop charges, plea them down to nothing, or screw up the case so badly that a conviction isn’t possible. The arrestee is on his way home before the paperwork is done — usually filing complaints against the arresting officer.

The vile, stupid and evil Dhimmi-crats have been enabling and whitewashing the criminality, sociopathy and assorted other pathologies in the black American community — especially among youth “of color” — for decades, now.

Law-abiding citizens of all ethnic backgrounds and skin pigmentations are rightly sick of this excrement.

    guyjones in reply to guyjones. | August 9, 2025 at 7:26 am

    Black Americans represent ~13% of the U.S. population, yet commit ~40-plus percent of its violent felonies. ‘Nuff said.

    Yet, outside of a few rare exceptions, show me the black leader or “activist” who has stood up and criticized black Americans for the endemic criminality, pathologies and lack of personal responsibility, diligent child-rearing and civilized behavior in black families and communities.

Not a lawyer, but aren’t there some kind of Federal civil rights violation charges here that can be brought against the perps as well as some city officials, who seem to meet the definition of accessories after the fact? Also, if I were on the Board of Proctor & Gamble, with HQ there, I would make sure an item of discussion at the next Board meeting would be relocation.

    TargaGTS in reply to jb4. | August 8, 2025 at 11:24 pm

    Yes, ’18 U.S. Code § 249 – Hate crime acts’ could absolutely be used by the feds here, given the description of the victims.

      It makes me wonder if Bondi is not up to the job, especially given that many of the attacks we see these days – as with the DOGE fellow in DC – seem to qualify.

white, middle-class earners left NYC back in the ’90s fleeing to white upstate enclaves and to similar white enclaves in other states because it became to scary/frightening/dangerous to walk and/or ride public transportation.

    guyjones in reply to paracelsus. | August 8, 2025 at 8:41 pm

    Which phenomenon the vile Dhimmi-crats unfairly vilified/denigrated as so-called “white flight.”

    Imagine that — dishonestly applying an alleged racist gloss to the phenomenon of citizens fleeing crime-infested, impoverished, lawless and otherwise decaying urban hellholes that have been run into the ground by corrupt, incompetent and callous Dhimmi-crats, over decades — when these people only seek safety and a decent quality-of-life for themselves and their families.

    Note also that non-blacks who possess the temerity to move into predominantly black neighborhoods, are denigrated/vilified as representing so-called “gentrification.”

    So, with the Dhimmi-crats, it’s damned if you do; damned if you don’t. You can’t win, with these wretched pukes.

2smartforlibs | August 8, 2025 at 7:58 pm

Agendas matter to the leftnot people. Remember that in the voting booth.

1. No government has an interest in your safety greater than your own.

2. Civil order abhors a vacuum. The vacuum is filled either by a strong leader or by the people themselves. But eventually, someone steps in.

3. Police, fire, and EMT personnel are not “first responders.” First responders are those people at the scene when an incident occurs. They are responsible for their own safety and the safety of those in their charge. Everyone else arrives late.

As others have very accurately stated the gov’t and its LEO agents have no duty to keep you safe. They couldn’t even if they wanted to do so, logistically it is impossible. Putting your faith in random strangers and passers by is increasingly shown to be foolish. Even where an intervention is successful they are likely to face physical injuries and legal problems. See Mr Penny in NYC defending strangers on a subway or ‘Big Balls’ in DC taking on and getting a beating from 8 assailants to thwart a car jacking/robbery of his lady friend.

Bottom line is the areas of the Nation where an intervention on behalf of strangers is unlikely to result in public condemnation, an arrest or a DA determined to punish the ‘good guys’ are the very areas where such an intervention is least likely to be necessary. No one cares more about your safety or the safety of your family than you and your family. Putting that safety in the hands of strangers in crime ridden areas seems like poor planning.

Parks told reporters that she stands by them: “I am a grown woman”.

Morally and mentally, it is a DEI idiot, grown only from food intake and lack of exercise.

My parents lived in Cincy for many years when I was an adult. My little sister went to high school there and my wife has a lot of family there. I know the city very well. It’s been plagued with ‘urban’ violence for decades with plenty of places that have historically been unsafe generally, but specifically for Caucasians. But, it’s deteriorated even further the last 20-years. The city – which is surprisingly small, both geographically and in terms of population, relative to the larger metro area – bears much of the blame. But, I would not discount the failure of the state to particularly include Ohio’s WORTHLESS “Republican” governor, DeWine. He’s been absolutely useless, the perfect antithesis of Ron DeSantis, a governor who holds city government responsible and PROSUCUTORS accountable. Ohio is a state that has a reasonably strong governor (constitutionally). And yet, DeWine has been absent his entire tenure except when it comes to enriching himself, his friends and his family.

    Do you think Vivek has a shot at winning the position?

      TargaGTS in reply to jb4. | August 9, 2025 at 11:22 am

      I think he does because he’s very politically savvy and one of the best communicators I’ve ever seen. He’s played the immigration & crime issues perfectly thus far. But, I don’t live in Ohio. My wife’s family thinks he would make it a lot closer than it should be because of his wealth and his (perceived) lukewarm appeal to working-class voters; these are the voters who propelled Trump to two huge victories in the state and Vance as well. They don’t believe that coalition will hold together for Vivek, particularly if the Democrats choose someone with working-class bona fides. Having said all that, early polling shows Vivek to be a juggernaut against all comers, Republican and Democrat…for now.

“making it hard to fathom how she must have looked just minutes after the attack.”

Probably better. After a good thrashing, it usually takes 6 to 24 hours to achieve max ugly.

Anyone ask these employers who have HQs in the Cincinatti area how this affects their recruitment?
Kroger
Procter & Gamble
General Electric [GE Aerospace]
Western & Southern Financial Group
Fifth Third Bank
Cincinnati Financial)
Cintas (427)
American Financial Group (460)

    CincyJan in reply to Chieftain. | August 9, 2025 at 10:57 am

    Most of these companies operate very much on the QT, but are very influential. Smaller companies are publicly criticizing the safety protocols in the city.

Civilization must take vengeance on the thug mobs that rule Democrat cities. It’s is time to clear the streets and flush the scum. Americans deserve safe, thug-free, crime-free cities. There are prisons in Venezuela & El Salvador where thugs & Wokes can be sent

The sad part is if she or the man had used deadly force to defend themselves, which they would have been perfectly within their rights to do, then they would be the ones on trial for Murder and Hate crimes.

Not that the laws in that sewage pit would actually let them legally carry so they could defend themselves.

    Ohio is a shall-issue state, and allows concealed and open carry without a permit.
    It is also a Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground state.
    It has preemption re firearms law.
    You are also allowed to carry in bars and restaurants, providing you are not imbibing.
    Public events might be restricted.*

    Which is a problem. While none of us want to see a Drunk Cowboy scenario, depriving you of the right to self-defense because you have imbibed is problematic. (It’s also the case in every state, as far as I know.)

    Given that both had probably been drinking (the vast majority do at events like that), yes, they would have been prosecuted for shooting in self defense. It is also likely (given what we’ve seen about Cincinnati’s legal system lately) they would be prosecuted even if stone cold sober.

    (* From USCCA, concerning places where you can’t carry, even with a license:
    Any premises that sells liquor or open-air arena for which a Class D liquor permit has been issued, if you are consuming beer or intoxicating liquor, if you are under the influence of alcohol or a drug of abuse, or if posted;)

To recap, the assault began when a woman struck her.
Is this really the case? Unless this is a wholly separate event, I believe this was the middle of the assault, after she tried to stop the beating on the man. Yet, this sentence has been used at least twice to talk about this woman’s encounter.

And, yes, it’s important. It was not a surprise, out-of-the-blue assault, but it was also an attempt at de-escalation (by her).

Is the focus on her part in this, and seemingly isolating it, an attempt to remove any confusion over bad actors from the initial melee? To avoid the harder discussions (for some)?

    destroycommunism in reply to GWB. | August 9, 2025 at 10:20 am

    the left will continue to wear the good guys down

    and only b/c the threat of DJT/BONDI might these cincy lefty thugg loving scum think twice about the woke agenda they already push

    its a fn war

    there is no way around it

destroycommunism | August 9, 2025 at 10:18 am

how soon we forget ( or they want us to ) the young white 18 yo who tried to defend civility and paid a huge price for his efforts as the mainstream Propaganda machine went all out after him and even gave false “evidence” against him and only b/c someone was willing to show an up close video of what was actually happening was he able to keep his freedom that young patriot is

Kyle Rittenhouse

b/c ITS THAT EFFORT that the left wants us allll exposed to

the police will not be there for you
they will be there against you to make sure they protect the local mob aka mayor city council who know that

YOU MUST BE SACRIFICED

so they can keep the thuggs on their side

    Kyle Rittenhouse’s prosecution was simply malicious. As far as I could tell, that 17 year old remained poised and controlled throughout the confrontation. Looked like a text book case of self-defence.

It’s amazing she [Victoria Parks] still has a job. Then again, look at who’s running the city.

I’ve been trying to look up the Cincinnati City Charter to figure out who if anyone has the authority to remove her, and how they might go about it, but it’s hosted on a very slow server, it doesn’t seem to allow accessing more than one section at a time, and the section index has no descriptive text. So I was unable to find the information in a reasonable time.

Subotai Bahadur | August 9, 2025 at 1:34 pm

In any Leftist controlled city [and most of our cities of any size are controlled by the Left]; if you are a “protected class” you are not subject to the law. If you are NOT a “protected class” you are not protected by the law.

They were more blatant about it than usual in Cincinnati, but it was the norm.

Keep this in mind if you are in a Leftist controlled city.

Subotai Bahadur

healthguyfsu | August 9, 2025 at 2:41 pm

I was just in Cincy for a reds game in July and everyone was super nice inside the stadium. I didn’t do much anything else in the city but drivers were also super polite in my opinion….so much so that I took note of how much nicer than those in VA.

It’s crazy how different this is from my experience and makes me wonder if outside agitators are involved or just a bad batch of thugs. Are there crime trends here I don’t know about?