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U.S. intelligence community investigating possibility that adversaries could use coronavirus as bioweapon

U.S. intelligence community investigating possibility that adversaries could use coronavirus as bioweapon

China refuses to allow independent international investigation into the origin of the coronavirus. Determining pandemics origins further challenged by decimation of U.S. intelligence resources in region.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC0gww2yznI

Legal Insurrection has been following reports that the Wuhan Coronavirus spread from a research laboratory in the capital city of Hubei Province in central China, noting that one China expert indicated that Chinese Communist Party officials could have allowed its citizens to travel the globe and spread the contagion.

Politico is now reporting that other nations may seize on this biowarfare concept.

The Pentagon and the intelligence community are more forcefully investigating the possibility that adversaries could use the novel coronavirus as a bioweapon, according to defense and intelligence officials, in a shift that reflects the national security apparatus’ evolving understanding of the virus and its risks.

Officials emphasized that the change does not mean they believe the virus was purposefully created to be weaponized—the intelligence community is still investigating the virus’ potential origins, but there is currently no hard intelligence or scientific evidence to support the theory that it spread from a lab in China, people briefed on the matter said.

Meanwhile, the intelligence community has also begun gaming out the potential for bad actors to weaponize the virus, particularly against high-level targets, and the Defense Department has recently shifted its focus toward monitoring the possibility more closely, said three people familiar with the matter.

Meanwhile, the full background on the source of the virus and the incipient stages of the outbreak in Wuhan may remain unknown for quite some time. The Chinese are rejecting all calls for an international probe into the origins of the pathogen.

A top diplomat in the UK, Chen Wen told the BBC the demands were politically motivated and would divert China’s attention from fighting the pandemic.

Information about the origin of Covid-19 and how it initially spread could help countries tackle the disease.

The virus is thought to have emerged at a wildlife market in the city of Wuhan late last year.

A report from European Union officials initially accused China of spreading disinformation about the crisis, in an effort to deflect blame. Now, they are walking back the criticism.

Worried about the repercussions, European officials first delayed and then rewrote the document in ways that diluted the focus on China, a vital trading partner — taking a very different approach than the confrontational stance adopted by the Trump administration.

The initial European Union report, obtained by The New York Times, was not particularly strident: a routine roundup of publicly available information and news reports.

It cited Beijing’s efforts to curtail mentions of the virus’s origins in China, in part by blaming the United States for spreading the disease internationally. It noted that Beijing had criticized France as slow to respond to the pandemic and had pushed false accusations that French politicians used racist slurs against the head of the World Health Organization. The report also highlighted Russian efforts to promote false health information and sow distrust in Western institutions.

“China has continued to run a global disinformation campaign to deflect blame for the outbreak of the pandemic and improve its international image,” the initial report said. “Both overt and covert tactics have been observed.”

But China moved quickly to block the document’s release, and the European Union pulled back. The report had been on the verge of publication, until senior officials ordered revisions to soften the language.

Without international-scale consequences or significant repercussions for the way it handled the onset of the pandemic, China has no motivation to changes its policies. Furthermore, there will not be a serious disincentive for malign actors to tinker around with the use of biological assault tactics.

Finally, determining where the virus came and what the Chinese did during the initial stages of the outbreak will pose significant challenges because China decimated U.S. intelligence apparatus in its country years ago.

…Reports emerged in 2017 that China had dealt a huge blow to the CIA’s infrastructure within its borders. From 2010 through to around 2013, according to The New York Times, more than a dozen carefully curated assets in China were jailed or killed — with one even brazenly shot outside a government building as a perceived warning to others.

“It was devastating. The setback probably delayed the U.S. national security community from fully comprehending Beijing’s move toward a more oppressive and assertive policy,” Patrick Cronin, Asia-Pacific security chair for the Hudson Institute, told Fox News. “The gap in a sharper understanding of the Chinese Communist Party’s true aims bought it more time to enact greater information suppression at home and more aggressive political warfare abroad.”

The moves were deemed one of the worst in the agency’s modern history.

“We didn’t lose just a single spy. We lost entire networks,” said Dean Cheng, senior research fellow and lead China expert at the Heritage Foundation. “That means that many of the various people who worked for us were all rolled up, which, in turn, would have devastated the credibility of our own agency and affected our ability to recruit new people.”

If there is no way to determine what went wrong so that preventative measures can be established, and no incentive for China to change, then it seems safe to assume we will face another version of Wuhan coronavirus in the future.

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Let’s play a thought experiment concerning the CCP Wuahn virus stats for China, in terms of confirmed cases and deaths. Let’s look at two possibilities.

1. The stats are pure BS. If the stats are pure BS, then it’s likely the actual cases maybe ~10x of what was reported. And it should have likely spread to larger Chinese metropolitan centers like Beijing, Shanghai, or Shenzhen considering it occurred during the Chinese New Year. If that is the case, how likely would it be for the CCP to suppress those reports? Even for Wuhan, we saw numerous reports leak out. Are they just doing a much better of suppressing it outside of Wuhan? Given the types of conditions in China, where its much denser than many parts of the US including NYC, it seems impossible that it did not spread to any of the bigger cities.

2. The stats are fairly accurate. If the stats are accurate, we can make the case that the Wuhan cases were a controlled release of the virus and that the low number of cases in other major cities is because it was controlled. That they used many carriers to export the release to other countries.

Logically, seems number 2 is almost conspiracy theory territory, but there are a few details that seem to make 2 a more plausible theory than 1. Given the number of deaths in the US, I’m almost certain there should be at least 100k deaths in China instead of the 5k they are reporting.

    Barry in reply to c0cac0la. | April 26, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    “And it should have likely spread to larger Chinese metropolitan centers like Beijing, Shanghai, or Shenzhen considering it occurred during the Chinese New Year.”

    All travel out of Wuhan was halted unless it was out of China. Cities like Shanghai – locked down tight like only a communist government can do.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to c0cac0la. | April 26, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    Wasn’t Wuhan home of the Largest protests against the Communists last year?????

    I believe it was…….

    JusticeDelivered in reply to c0cac0la. | April 26, 2020 at 10:26 pm

    “The Chinese are rejecting all calls for an international probe into the origins of the pathogen.”

    Evidence of an attempt to further damage the rest of the world by denying us information we need to understand and fight the virus.

    Bottom line, this virus is China’s fault, rather accidently, or intentionally. There is very clear evidence that they withheld information which has damaged pretty much everyone in the world more than it has damaged China. At best they are carpetbaggers improving their position at everyone else’s expense.

    Now we need to move to the phase where we cripple their fucking economy.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to JusticeDelivered. | April 26, 2020 at 10:44 pm

      HEAR! HEAR!

      AND DON’T BUY CHINA CRAP.

      GitOffMahLawn in reply to JusticeDelivered. | April 27, 2020 at 8:26 am

      “Bottom line, this virus is China’s fault, rather accidently, or intentionally. ”

      Yep, china is Assh*le, that much is certain.

      Whether through stupidity or vile and evil intention, china is was and shall always be responsible for the pain, suffering and death caused by the wuhan flu.

      Stupid, malicious, nasty regime.

      GFY. With a rhino horn, or a bat wing, or whatever strange crap you sell in your disease ridden wet markets.

    mister naturel in reply to c0cac0la. | April 27, 2020 at 7:46 am

    the ccp needed to find a way to end the honk kong pro-democracy protests that were becoming larger and starting to become violent.
    what better way to discourage large gatherings?
    let a relatively mild pathogen out and voila,
    no protests and if the rest of the world gets sick….if you want to make an omelet….
    as long as it benefits the party….look at the great leap forward

One certainty, the virus came from china, and the chinese hid it from the rest of the world while they sent their death diplomats all over the world.

They are directly responsible for every death and every lost dollar. They should be treated as the pariahs they are.

The feckless europeans will be of no help. They’ll sale their souls for a handful of yen. They’re cheap, bought easily. Always have been.

adversaries could use the novel coronavirus as a bioweapon
*************************************************
thats just crazy or so I have been told.
nobody could develop one and set it loose upon the world….I mean the odds of a carrier(s) infecting others before deployment just cannot happen….

Ya Think ????? Read this from the Tennessee Star; thought provoking.

Left Moving from Proof of Concept to Execution on Plan to Bring Down America

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/04/04/commentary-left-moving-from-proof-of-concept-to-execution-on-plan-to-bring-down-america/?fbclid=IwAR3aTmdKvqPqBGDLJsGw5c1IMek1fjRMF78z3x9O1QC67lKDZJVzoVrl5dY

—If it looks like a bioweapon, and it behaves like a bioweapon, and it kills like bioweapon … then it’s a bioweapon dammit!

Duh.

    dmacleo in reply to tiger66. | April 26, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    if walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, then its a squirrel dammit.
    come on get with the program.
    jese….some peoples kids…
    🙂

Why did the Chinese allow people to leave Wuhan for other countries? It’s obvious that they wanted to spread the disease throughout the rest of the world.

Has everyone forgot or did no one pay attention? As soon as the Chinese Corona sh1te hit the fan there were new reports concerning flights from Iran continuing to China. Here’s one…

https://en.radiofarda.com/a/what-spurs-iran-s-mahan-air-to-continue-flights-to-china-despite-public-outrage-/30485837.html

and another from February…

https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/voa-news-iran/irans-mahan-air-continues-china-flights-days-after-ban-upsetting-some

This raised some major red flags. But, knowing that Iran is an enemy state (and so should China, honestly), this came as no surprise to me. It’s not a stretch to think that China was sharing intelligence and even technology related to the Chinese Corona Virus. What I don’t understand is why this wasn’t front page news, unless the Feds were on top of it and keeping it quiet.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to WestRock. | April 26, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    Iran a co conspirator, goody, goody, now lets kick the crap out of Iran, take out water reservoirs and hydroelectric, destroy their power grid. Their centrifuges will all stop.

“…there is currently no hard intelligence or scientific evidence to support the theory that it spread from a lab in China”

As opposed to the mountain of hard, indisputable evidence that it came from bat soup, right?

    InEssence in reply to Exiliado. | April 27, 2020 at 12:13 am

    They are only saying that they didn’t trace it to the source. However, we know the sequence, for sure, and it has HIV and recombinant DNA. That doesn’t happen in nature; so it was man-made. We might be able to tell if is on purpose by tracing the mutations backwards. However, it doesn’t mutate that much.

A friend has a daughter who works in one of the major hospital ERs in either Tennessee or was it Kentucky, I can’t remember.

Lead nurse, head nurse once again I can’t remember her position in the hospital but she has the title, credibility and credentials to make this story that much more scary.

Anyhow she is on the front lines of the CV19 battle and she told her dad they think the initial batches of Chinese test kits were designed on purpose to give back negative CV19 test result so they sent the infected patient back into the populous to infect even more.

Supposedly the government is investigating but I’m sure it will be buried.

    Barry in reply to Chitragupta. | April 26, 2020 at 8:16 pm

    My sister is a pulmonary specialist and she refused to use the chinese stuff because she believed it defective.

    I’ve not heard the idea that it produced false negatives on purpose, but it fits everything else we know about the chinese.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Chitragupta. | April 26, 2020 at 10:51 pm

    Chitragupta, many others have said the same.

    Remember too that communist China – at the same time – was buying up all the effective PPE they could get their bloody hands on.

China says they only had one new case today, and nearly everyone else is recovered.
If that is so, they surely have a vaccine and a cure they are sitting on. If that is the case, this is war.
Chances are it ain’t so.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | April 26, 2020 at 9:57 pm

FYI

Is the Coronavirus Foreign Interference in Our Elections — or Worse?

What explains China’s failure to halt the spread to other countries?

https://spectator.org/is-the-coronavirus-foreign-interference-in-our-elections-or-worse/

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | April 26, 2020 at 10:00 pm

Gen. Anthony Tata:

Repercussions of China’s coronavirus misinformation
tantamount to accidentally
detonating a nuclear bomb

https://www.foxnews.com/media/gen-anthony-tata-china-coronavirus-nuclear-bomb

OH Deplorable | April 26, 2020 at 10:01 pm

Time to stop every shipment of Chinese goods on every ship and let them sit off shore until hell freezes over.

Not happy this whole thing went down like it did but hopefully we have learned a few things about ourselves and our country’s response. Because next time it may be more serious than this one.

Democrats are using COVID-19 as a bioweapon against the president.

Sure. They COULD do what they already DID. We need experts to tell us that.