New Mexico: Muslim Extremist Compound Raided, Children Were Reportedly Trained for School Shootings
“Wahhaj is the son of a Brooklyn imam who was a possible co-conspirator in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 — but was never charged.”
Friday, authorities raided a New Mexico compound on the Colorado border where they Siraj Ibn Wahhaj was reportedly training children to commit school shootings. That claim was made by a foster parent to one of the children.
Wahhaj and four other adults were arrested and face charges of child abuse. According to CBS News, Wahhaj, “Wahhaj is the son of a Brooklyn imam who was a possible co-conspirator in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 — but was never charged.”
Eleven children between the ages of 1 and 15 were found in the compound and taken into state custody. The children were living in filthy conditions without running water or electricity, were wearing rags, and were all malnourished.
Eleven children were found living in filthy conditions at a New Mexico compound. 5 adults face child abuse charges, and court documents show one of them is under investigation for training children to commit school shootings. @OmarVillafranca has more. https://t.co/tjOM2qgIKL pic.twitter.com/QIcoLE5kpo
— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 8, 2018
CBS News has more:
In a Georgia arrest warrant, authorities said 39-year-old Siraj Ibn Wahhaj had told his son’s mother that he wanted to perform an exorcism on the child because he believed he was possessed by the devil. He later said he was taking the child to a park and didn’t return.
He is accused in Georgia of kidnapping the boy.
The arrest warrant issued there says the missing boy has a condition caused by lack of oxygen and blood flow around the time of birth. He cannot walk and requires constant attention, his mother told police.
For months, neighbors worried about the squalid compound built along a remote New Mexico plain, saying they took their concerns to authorities long before sheriff’s officials raided the facility described as a small camping trailer in the ground.
The search at the compound came amid a two-month investigation that included the FBI. Hogrefe said federal agents surveilled the area a few weeks ago but did not find probable cause to search the property.
That changed when Georgia detectives forwarded a message to the sheriff that he said initially had been sent to a third party, saying: “We are starving and need food and water.”
Authorities found what Hogrefe called “the saddest living conditions and poverty” he has seen in 30 years in law enforcement. He said Wahhaj was armed with multiple firearms, including an assault rifle. But he was taken into custody without incident.
The group arrived in Amalia in December, with enough money to buy groceries and construction supplies, according to Tyler Anderson, a 41-year-old auto mechanic who lives nearby.
He said he helped them install solar panels after they arrived but eventually stopped visiting.
Anderson said he met both of the men in the group, but never the women, who authorities have said are the mothers of the 11 children, ages 1 to 15.
“We just figured they were doing what we were doing, getting a piece of land and getting off the grid,” Anderson said.
As the months passed, he said he stopped seeing the smaller children playing in the area and didn’t hear guns being fired at a shooting range on the property.
Jason Badger, who owned the property where the compound was built, said he and his wife had pressed authorities to remove the group after becoming concerned about the children.
Authorities are working to identify human remains found in the inner portion of the compound.
From Fox News:
“The remains are in a state of decomposition that has made identification challenging,” chief medical investigator Kurt Nolte said. “Investigators often try to compare remains to radiologic images, fingerprints, DNA or other identification materials.”
“At this time, investigators are using all known methods to make an identification, but this will not be a quick process. If we must rely on DNA results, identification could take many weeks,” the office said.
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Islam – the mother lode of bad ideas.
62 on a warm day.
Somehow the NRA will be blamed.
First order of business. It’s depressing that so many people have bought into the Handgun Control International strategy, as defined by Josh Sugarman back in the late ’80s, to take advantage of the average person’s ignorance of firearms. “If it looks like a machine gun, it must be a machine gun.”
So we get this:
“Authorities found what Hogrefe called “the saddest living conditions and poverty” he has seen in 30 years in law enforcement. He said Wahhaj was armed with multiple firearms, including an ASSAULT RIFLE. But he was taken into custody without incident.”
The gang had an AR-15, which is not an assault rifle. I hesitate to use Wikipedia as a source unless I already know the answers, and this is one of those times it’s convenient to do so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44
The German STG 44, STG being the abbreviation for Sturm Gewehr or Storm Rifle, established the elements essential to an assault rifle.
“The StG 44 (abbreviation of Sturmgewehr 44, “assault rifle 44″) is a German selective-fire rifle developed during World War II.
…The StG 44 was the first successful and widely produced design to use a NEW SHORTER CARTRIDGE”, which permitted controllable automatic fire from a weapon more compact than a battle rifle, coupled with the recognition that most aimed rifle fire in combat situations did not exceed a few hundred metres.[5]”
To be an assault rifle, the weapon must be select fire i.e. capable of fully automatic fire (which makes it a machine gun), have a detachable box magazine, and use an intermediate power round. More power than a pistol round as used in the Tommy Gun or Schmeiser but less powerful than that used in a battle rifle like the .30 US government or 8mm (7.92) Mauser. The Germans achieved this by shortening the 8mm Mauser, and creating the 7.92 Kurz (short) for the STG 44. But since then most countries have purpose built rounds for assault rifles, such as the 5.56x45mm NATO round as used in the M16. Commercially available as the .223 Remington although the two are not interchangeable which actually is due to the different specifications for military and commercial rifle chambers and not because of the dimensions of the cartridge itself. Which is a discussion for another day.
So the gun grabbers invented the category of “assault weapon” which can mean anything or nothing. Kali, my former home state, defined bolt action rifles firing the .50BMG as “assault weapons.”
Because they’re not assault rifles. Again, an assault rifle is a select fire weapon firing an intermediate power cartridge that is controllable in fully automatic mode and really only good for aimed fire out to a few hundred yards. A bolt gun firing a the Ma Deuce fifty cal is none of those things. Hence the made up category of assault weapon. You can put anything into it as it’s a meaningless term and like “hate speech” it’s meant to be arbitrary and capricious. it’s how the totalitarian, i.e. leftist Schumer-esque, mindset works.
I will further fisk this POS brand of reporting when I can get my blood pressure down. It may involve a couple of shots of Gentleman Jack. Until then regarding the Muslim use of children in this regard I leave you with the terms “jannissary” and “Blood Tax.”
These people are proud of their ignorance when it comes to icky guns. It is virtue signaling. I remember one talking blonde on the tube who referred to a handgun used in a robbery as a 38 millimeter hand gun. Just a bit ago I saw a story about a “fully automatic semi-automatic” gun.
It is a badge of honor.
Locally, there’s been a lot of snickering about the media panic over his supposed cache of weapons. The number of firearms and rounds of ammunition found don’t even come close to what locals would consider an arsenal.
Hogrefe said federal agents surveilled the area a few weeks ago but did not find probable cause to search the property.
Jezuz H Krist, government employees can’t do anything right. Just like the Boston Marathon bomber … they have a name, they have an address, and it still takes the Keystone Kops forever to do anything useful.
If they had no probable cause then they had no probable cause. Should they have searched without any?! Because why?
Muslim with father terrorist + one ounce common sense = probable cause.
No, it does not. The law is extremely clear on that.
That doesn’t seem to bother the local Gestapo when they decide they want to search my carport.
So you have criminal police where you live; sue them and expose them. You have no right to expect that other policemen should be the same.
There was no probable cause. It’s not illegal to live off the grid in Taos county. A lot of people buy a little plot of land and construct their own houses out of whatever is available. That’s kind of the draw… there is no overreaching government lying in wait to tell you what you can and can’t do there. The county itself is over 2k sq miles with only a couple dozen sheriff’s deputies and a few state police. With only about 30K people in the entire county, it’s a place where people have been going for decades to disappear.
Since Obama the feds haven’t been allowed to study Islam. It started under George “Islam means peace” Bush. It doesn’t f***ing mean peace. It became impossible under Obama. Had they studied their playbook they would have found plenty of probable cause. Milhouse is, as usual full of s***.
Your reference to the Boston Marathon bombers is apt. The Russians told the FBI (in a case in which I wish actual collusion had taken place) that the older brother whose name I will not ever mention had traveled to the Caucuses for purposes of jihad. Since the only thing they were allowed to know about jihad by their new Muslim Brotherhood trainers is that it’s an internal spiritual struggle to purify ones soul the dumb #$$ FBI agent who took the call no doubt said, “What a wonderful thing, that saintly man.”
There’s your probable cause right there. But because even into your second year of the Trump administration the feds aren’t allowed to understand Islam. They are only permitted to think it as a religion, which it is not. On the other hand, convincing the LEOs is only half the battle, as we learn from the British police and their utter failure to stop Muslim gangs from raping thousands of British girls. As long as the judiciary refuses to comprehend that Islam is not a religion but a complete replacement system for every where it infests then suicide is inevitable.
Islam is not probable cause for a warrant. Try presenting that to any judge in the country and you’re likely to face sanctions or even contempt.
What happened to the Linda Sarsour angle? I read a transcript of a speech where she thanked the father as one of her mentors.
Did this evidence just disappear, or was it a hoax?
No, it’s true enough (she said he was “a mentor”, which is not quite the same thing as “my mentor”, but it’s close enough). But that’s not an angle on the story. The story is about Wahhaj Jr, and a bit about Wahhaj Sr, not about one of Wahhaj Sr’s fangirls.
Go. To. Bed.
Go. To. Hell.
We need to get your mother on the line. Is she up?
What happened to the Linda Sarsour angle?
A tenuous link to Linda Sarsour, odious though she may be, isn’t much of a crime.
There seem to be genuine crimes here—even if some Mr Magoos couldn’t see any probable cause to investigate them more competently—and those should be the story.
There is no link from him to Mansour. There is one from her to him. In other words, when she is the subect the link is relevant; when he is it’s not.
What makes you think there was any probable cause to be seen? Knowing what we do now, what do you think they should have seen, that would have given them probable cause to search the property?
Tom Swift has hit on an important point, which I intended to address when I left off. The federal government is aiding and abetting the lies of Sharia supremacist Muslim Brotherhood front groups such as Hamas linked care.
This is largely due to the fact that the purportedly scholarly field is entirely corrupt.
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/georgetown-professor-under-fire-for-statements-on-islam-and-rape-slavery
“Georgetown professor under fire for statements on Islam and rape, slavery
WASHINGTON (Sinclair Broadcast Group) — A Georgetown University professor is denying allegations that he endorsed the practice of rape and slavery in Islamic cultures in a recent lecture, but critics claim he is being protected by a liberal establishment that is holding him to a different standard than it does conservatives.
Professor Jonathan A.C. Brown, Alwaleed bin Talal Chair of Islamic Civilization in the School of Foreign Service and director of the Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim Christian Understanding, gave the speech on “Islam and the Problem of Slavery” at the International Institute of Islamic Thought on February 7.
He read from the first of three planned essays dissecting the meaning of slavery and how it is understood in Islamic civilizations and took questions from the audience addressing issues like sexual consent and marital rape.
Umar Lee, a Muslim who attended the event, described it in a post on Student Voices as ‘a 90-minute defense of slavery which included an explicit endorsement of non-consensual sex.’”
Here is where I demonstrate that there is a difference between Islam and a Muslim. I like many Muslims. They are fine people. But that’s because they have many other influences in their lives other than Islam. Moreover, their religious authorities actively discourage them from what would be the equivalent of Bible study lest they commit the sin of bid’ah, or innovation, which is second only to the sin of shirq or assigning partners to Allah.
Unfortunately for Umar the Georgetown prof who is the chair of the Saudi-funded PRINCE Alwaleed bin Talal endowment is correct. A woman’s consent to sex is a foreign element to Islam.
Surah 2.223
“Your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth [righteousness] for yourselves. And fear Allah and know that you will meet Him. And give good tidings to the believers.”
Does a farmer’s field have the right to withhold consent if it doesn’t like when or how the farmer intends to plow it? Of course not. A Muslim wife like a farmer’s field is property. And there really is no difference between a wife and a Yazidi sex slave. Except a Muslim man has to divorce his wife (which can be done in a tweet now) and a wife has a right of inheritance. Under Sharia a sex slave doesn’t need to be divorced but can be simply sold, and has no right to inheritance if her master dies. Which, in reality, neither does a wife as the sons “inherit” the former wife of their father and can keep her in captivity until she renounces her inheritance.
Umar doesn’t know this. Many of you don’t know this. And you don’t know this because Saudi/Gulf state petrodollars pay pseudo-intellectual whores like Prof. Brown to hide the truth from you.
To be fair, this distortion of history didn’t begin with Saudi petrodollars. It began in the eighteenth century with Protestant scholars determined to demonize Catholic Spain. Hence the romanticization of Al Andalus. Because clearly the Islamic conquest of Spain must have been a step up from the benighted Catholic regime that proceeded it. Later the theme was seized upon by multiculturalists as an example of how multiculturism has existed as an ideal society under the central control of an enlightened elite. Then when the Saudis and the Gulf state princes got rich they looked and this stupidity and said, “Hey, we can use this against the stupid infidels.” And yes, they have quite handsomely. Because our Stockholm afflicted LHMFM an ruling class so desperately wants to believe the lie.
So, let’s get back to the name I dropped previously. Jannisary. They were a slave army, but an elite in Ottoman society, loyal only to the Caliph. They consisted of former Christian boys of the Christian subjects of the empire in places like the Balkans or Bulgaria. They were “ripped from the arms of their mothers” quite literally and far more viciously than anything ICE has ever contemplated. Yet the Saudi/Gulf state-corrupted Islamic studies departments would have you believe that the Christian families welcomed the abduction of their sons as, they claim, that meant they too had higher status as the families of Janissaries.
This is just as much bulls**t as the Muslim claims that they never raped their captive slave girls. The women WANTED to have sex with their Muslim conquerors. The would have you believe that women find it an aphrodisiac when someone kills their father, uncles, husbands, sons, cousins.
“Me so horny, take me to Arabia, Mahmood, buy me Honda!”
The fly in the Islamic ointment is that they kept records. Like the Nazis. And they seized those boys young so they could indoctrinate all non-Muslims including their own parents.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/islamic-state-training-kidnapped-children-to-kill-their-parents
“‘You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred.’ (Qur’an 58:22)
‘O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.’ (Qur’an 9:23)
‘There has already been for you an excellent pattern in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, ‘Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from whatever you worship other than Allah. We have denied you, and there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone…’ (Qur’an 60:4)…”
(cont)
It is complete and utter bulls**t that the subject non-Muslims welcomed the enslavement of their young sons. Would you welcome this “blood tax,” as they called it? And the boys had to be abducted young so they could be given to Muslim Turkish families to bring up to be good Muslims. Which, as Surah 60:4 shows, includes hating their own fathers if they don’t worship Allah alone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3502471/Isis-taught-beat-kill-behead-not-Muslim-does-not-follow-Koran-Horrifying-ordeal-boy-TEN-kidnapped-child-soldier-fanatics-Islamic-caliphate.html
“The 10-year-old Yazidi boy in the blue cap with his soft brown eyes and cheeky smile watches the video intently – just like millions of boys his own age, captivated by their favourite films.
But the video which has so engrossed him is not the latest Hollywood blockbuster, but footage of a group of young boys dressed in military fatigues, Kalashnikovs in their hands, cries of ‘death to the infidels’ ringing in their ears.
For not so long ago, Adam was one of them, snatched from his family to become a ‘caliphate cub’ – an elite unit of boys taught to behead anyone who disagrees with the evil extremists’ vile views – EVEN THEIR OWN PARENTS…”
These millenia old facts should be news today, why, exactly?
The local news covered this as a “man” in “New Mexico”. They didn’t mention either “Muslim” or “jihad” which was clearly the motivation. But just like Loretta Lynch said about the Miami night club shooting, “We probably will never know why he did it.”
The AP’s write-up omitted these crucial facts, so of course all the local coverage did too. Fake News by omission.
If this was some Jihadi plot, it was going to fail on its own. They had no money, no food, no electricity, had to haul their own water and their shelter was subpar. They made it through late winter and early spring because it was a mild year. They wouldn’t have made it through this coming winter.