Palestinian knifing martyrs “married” at funeral
A form of grieving, and incitement.
Unfortunately, Palestinian propaganda promises those “martyred” while killing or attempting to kill Jews an after-life of glory and paradise. This, of course, perpetuates the conflict and death on all sides.
In a twist on that theme, two Palestinians shot and killed while carrying out knifing attacks were posthumously married at a funeral of one of them in Hebron.
The video was posted on Facebook by the Palestinian Information Center which also tweeted the link.
The Times of Israel provides more details:
Raed Jaradat, 22, who was shot while carrying out a stabbing attack against Israeli soldiers near Hebron last week, and Daania Arshid, killed as she tried to stab soldiers at the Tomb of the Patriachs on the same day, were posthumously betrothed to each other as “martyrs” to be married beyond the grave.
As the father of Jaradat prepared to bury his son, he turned to the crowd and requested from Arshid’s father to allow his daughter to become his son’s bride. Arshid’s father broke into tears and approved the engagement. Then the two fathers were hoisted into the air and came together in an emotional embrace.
The crowd broke into song and dance as the announcer declared, “Blessed be Raed, blessed be Daania, God is great.”
In the world of Palestinian incitement, the “marriage” of martyrs was not the most bizarre revelation today. A store in Gaza called Hitler displayed mannequins holding knives:
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Bibi doesn’t care much about dead Jews in Hebron, because he and other elites despise and fear the so-called National Religious who predominate in Judea and Samaria. Indeed, Muslims provide great value to the elite when they kill selectively.
It would take little effort to expel the Muslims from Eretz Israel. Israel, as a nuclear power with a triad, could do so with military impunity, unlike Serbia.
It could mitigate US responses by ending its supply of human intelligence and technical means to the US. It could deepen its military relationship with China as well at the drop of a hat. The US is not in the best position, despite what Israel’s elites and American Jews in Name Only (JINOs) say. That means that a serious Israeli effort would preempt US saber rattling. Anyway, American Christians would still support Israel, undercutting coordinated American action.
As for Europe, it has only economic power, and it has a history of selling out its supposed ideals for lucrative trade.
Israel would be transformed. Its economy would eventually improve, and its quality of life would skyrocket: vastly less crime of all kinds, the virtual elimination of terrorism, and needed land secured for Jewish families. Even tourism would skyrocket.
People who are killed while attempting murder are not “martyrs.” That term is reserved for the innocent.
Islam frequently uses words to mean things other than what everybody else means by them. That enables Muslim spokesmen appear to mean one thing in English while saying something completely different to other Muslims. In other words, to make deniable lies. For example, one will say “we condemn the murder of innocents” while forgetting to mention that by Islam’s definition no person who rejects Allah or fights against the hegemony of Islam is innocent.
This “propaganda” is not an invention of the Palestinians. Quran 4:74 – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward”.
I don’t think that’s the loophole they use.
They often deny that the person who attacked attemoted to murder anyone. When it is admitted, other excuses are used.
After all, even “fighting against the hegemony of Islam” would not, and could not, apply to many of their targets.
They incite murder, but rarely admit that anyone who was “martyred” attempted to kill anyone.
If they do, I think you will find that the target is always described as a variety of soldier or at least claimed to be a legitimate military target.
It’s lies piled on top of lies.
Now this marriage – I am pretty sure that’s meaningless in Islam. I never heard of it anywhere else.
That is the plain and obvious truth.
But expelling all Moslems from Israel is not only physically impossible and morally difficult to justify, but would definitely drive tourism down. A more selective expulsion policy, combined with a policy of encouraging voluntary non-Jewish emigration, would work a lot better.
Milhouse, how can you always be wrong? Why exactly is it “physically impossible” to expel the Muslims? They are around 15% of Green Line Israel. They live in particular areas. It’s trivial, actually to unload them. Muslims run when they fear from their lives.
As for “morally difficult to justify,” again I wonder why you believe this. You have in the past been called out for your questionable take on Judaism. Here I’d simply say that Halacha (Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings) is very clear regarding what should be done to non-Jews who kill Jews in Eretz Israel: they should, as a group, be subject to death based on Milchemet Mitzvah–defensive holy war. But then you don’t apparently take Jewish law seriously. Your “morality” comes from the UN, perhaps. In any event, the Muslims of Eretz Israel have always and will always kill Jews. Why exactly would any rational people allow Muslims to squat there?
As for the relatively minor issue of tourism–you don’t seem to dispute any other practical consequence, you are quite wrong. Christians can no longer even visit Bethlehem in safety. Jerusalem is always under threat. And Jews who want to visit the most important Jewish sites (the Temple, Hebron, especially) would likely flock in.
It is physically impossible to expel over a million unwilling people, especially when there is no country around you willing to take them. Even if you load them up on buses (that’s over 20,000 bus loads) and drive them to the border, then what? Are you going to invade a neighbouring country in order to dump them there?!
It’s also morally dubious, because the majority of those people are not hostile to us, have never done anything to harm us, and are just ordinary people wanting nothing more than to live their lives in peace, which they have just as much right as us to do.
In addition, remember what happened to Serbia. And note that today Kosovo is a country. I thought at the time that Clinton’s holy war against Serbia was intended to set a precedent for Israel. And if you recall, Arik Sharon thought the same, which is why he wanted Israel to side with the Serbs.
Really? By whom? I’ll put up my understanding of Judaism against anyone. Anywhere, any time.
Milhouse, it’s amazing that Jews can be expelled time after time–when they aren’t simply murdered–but doing so with Muslims is “impossible.” Anyway they will not be unwilling to leave when the alternative is death. Start blowing up houses and the Muslims of Israel will “self-deport.” By the way, the so-called Fakestinians have cars. No need for buses.
You say the majority of “those people” are not hostile to “us.” Well, that is patently false. All Muslims can be seen as hostile to the infidel. The Muslim Fakes are brought up on it. Will a majority implement their hated at the cost of their lives? No. But a majority are willing to support the active terrorists. I mean, when Gazan Muslims finally got a free vote the voted in Hamas. However, collective punishment, especially in a Milchemet Mitzvah, is required. So it doesn’t matter if some Muslims are “not guilty” by Western standards.
Your comment about Serbia–which I had already addressed–shows that your didn’t read me original comment with any care.
I think Juba, or something similar, showed your ignorance of Judaism. However, your failure to engage my discussion of Halacha demonstrates my point.
Excuse me? Juba showed my ignorance of Judaism?! What a joke. Juba is a Xian who knows nothing at all about Judaism. If he’s your standard, then you have disqualified yourself from the debate.
Now from the beginning: Which country has expelled Jews in the modern era, and got away with it? None.
What you are proposing is mass murder. Killing all Moslems simply for being Moslems, unless they escape first. Let’s be very clear about that. And you’re proposing it in front of a non-Jewish audience. Are you insane, or are you a troll?
Beside the obvious and insurmountable moral problem, any such attempt is guaranteed to bring down a response like what happened to Serbia, or worse. An international jihad against Israel, led by the USA and UK. There will be no opposition to it, because nobody will be able to justify blatant genocide. All the antisemites will be vindicated, and they’ll have finally proved that establishing Israel was a mistake that can now be corrected. 0bama is itching for such an opportunity. Samantha Power proposed this decades ago, and will lose no time dusting off those plans. And Holocaust Mark II will have begun.
The majority of Moslems are decent people who just want to live in peace. No sane person denies this. That they don’t like us doesn’t give us the right to harm them. They are under no moral obligation to like us. So long as they do not aggress against us, they are not responsible for the crimes of those who do. They are not at war, so they’re not subject to the laws of war. Oh, and any future Nuremberg Tribunal will apply the currently accepted international laws of war, not the Torah’s laws.
Now if Israel acts against those who are actively supporting terrorism, that is a very different matter. The justification for that is obvious, and the only real obstacle is the Israeli legal establishment, which must first be toppled before anything useful can be achieved.
PS: Israel is the regional superpower. What are Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt going to do when Fakes are running to get out of Israel? I want to be clear, however, that killing them is more in keeping with Halacha than expelling them.
What would Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon do? The answer is obvious: they would close the borders and not allow anyone to cross. They would shoot at anyone who crosses. And Hezbollah would immediately start firing all those missiles it’s stockpiled.
Noted without comment:
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Jordanian-sheikh-stirs-controversy-with-fatwa-against-killing-Jews-431785
Noted with comment: he’s lying. The example of Muhammad’s own deeds, which no Muslim can repudiate without being deemed apostate and subject to death, is that any agreement with infidels can be unilaterally broken when it is to the Muslim’s benefit and advantage to do so. According to Islamic sources Muhammad made several peace treaties with unbelievers, all of which he broke when the Muslims were sufficiently strong and then made war upon them. Indeed, since the Quran states no less than 90 times that Muhammad is the best example for Muslims to follow, it is easily argued that such betrayal is mandatory.
So you think you know Islam better than him? From which institution did you get the degree in Sharia that qualifies you to dispute his view? The key phrase is “Jews can be killed during war only”. So long as there is no declared war, killing Jews is murder. And unlike Mohammed, a random Arab in the street does not have the power to declare war.
Just because somebody authoritative says something doesn’t mean it’s true. His first lie is to imply that here is not a state of war with Israel. They’re shooting rockets at the Jews. A state of war exists whether or not one has been formally declared. His second lie is to say that one can kill Jews only when war is declared. Infidels can be killed any time they “make mischief in the land”. Mischief includes, among other things, resisting Islamic authority over the infidel. Since Sharia applies itself everywhere and to everyone, anyone who resists can be killed. The Jews are resisting. QED. Moreover, Muhammad frequently killed, kidnapped, raped, and stole from infidels without declaring war. When needed sex slaves to rape and money for the high life he took it. Ergo, any Muslim can too because the Quran defines Muhammad as the highest example of conduct. And if that’s not enough, the Quran defines the Jews as “the highest in enmity to the Muslims”, and there is nothing more holy in Islam than killing your enemy.
His first lie is to imply that here is not a state of war with Israel. They’re shooting rockets at the Jews.
Who is? Not the Arabs walking about Jerusalem or Hevron.
A state of war exists whether or not one has been formally declared.
And you know this how? What sort of degree in Sharia do you possess, to know that a formal declaration is not required?
His second lie is to say that one can kill Jews only when war is declared. Infidels can be killed any time they “make mischief in the land”. Mischief includes, among other things, resisting Islamic authority over the infidel.
Again, what are your qualifications to determine what qualifies as “mischief”? And exactly who is entitled to kill people for it? Any random Moslem who has the opportunity?! I doubt it. Tell me why I should take your inexpert word over his expert one.
Moreover, Muhammad frequently killed, kidnapped, raped, and stole from infidels without declaring war. When needed sex slaves to rape and money for the high life he took it. Ergo, any Muslim can too because the Quran defines Muhammad as the highest example of conduct. And if that’s not enough, the Quran defines the Jews as “the highest in enmity to the Muslims”, and there is nothing more holy in Islam than killing your enemy.
Again, deriving practical law from this example requires qualifications in Sharia. What are yours?
King Abdullah is really trying to help, I suppose.
It appears that Milhouse is not only a moron but a cowering, dissembling moron.
Let’s see…. Have Jews been expelled “in modern times”? As usual, Milhouse does not write precisely so we don’t know what period he refers to. If he means post-WW2, the answer is that of course Jews have been expelled in modern times. The majority of Israel’s Jews are not Ashkenazi. Their parents or they themselves were expelled from Muslim countries. How ignorant could Milhouse be not to know this?
Nothing he says can be taken in good faith because he panics at the thought of telling the ugly truth to a non-Jewish audience. But Jews are commanded to shed light on problems of the world based on Torah. They are not supposed to hide that truth.
The truth is that Islam is evil, and those brought up on such evil will not be good people. That is because ideas and cultures matter. The evidence is all around us simply by LOOKING at what Muslims do. They are especially uniform in their evil in Eretz Israel. I mean, a few crazies were not responsible for voting in Hamas. No, that was an overwhelming majority. Milhouse is just too cowardly and ignorant to acknowledge it.
He panics while mentioning Serbia. Of course I brought up the point first, in the context of Israel having, unlike Serbia, a nuclear capability. Indeed, it has a nuclear second strike capability via its nuclear triad. No Western attack “in modern times” has been perpetrated against a nuclear power. But this trembling moron thinks that the US and Britain will change and launch such an attack if Israel forces its murderous Muslims into, say, Jordan?
I have already explained that despite initial noise, Israel would benefit in every way from making Israel a Muslim-free zone. As Muslim countries are Jew-free zones, there will be a nice symmetry at last.
Our friend Milhouse is a JINO, a Jew in name only. He doesn’t care that Muslims kill Jews in the Jewish Homeland. He doesn’t care that Jews cannot pray on the Temple Mount. His blather is so empty of learning and moral decency that he is not worth reading, let alone engaging.
Well, his name IS Milhouse. Explains everything.
Lol.