DEI discrimination: “trying to get it out is like trying to get soap out of a sponge”

DEI discrimination: “trying to get it out is like trying to get soap out of a sponge”

The Equal Protection Project (EqualProtect.org) is almost always in the news, with over 400 unique broadcast hits, over 1300 total broadcast hits, and almost 5000 digital/print hits since inception in February 2023. It’s a whole world of our that you are missing out on if you don’t follow our EPP News page.

This past week was no exception, with major articles in The NY Post about our civil rights complaint against the City University of New York, and in The Washington Times about HHS opening an investigation into three continuing race-based HHS grant programs that started in the Biden era.

I got a chance to discuss the two developments with Stuart Varney on Fox Business Network:

(Transcript auto-generated, may contain transcription errors, lightly edited for transcript clarity)

Varney:

William Jacobson is the founder of the Equal Protection Project and joins me now. You want them to just simply end the [CUNY Black Male Initiative] program, right?

WAJ: 

Well, we don’t want the program ended. We want the discrimination ended.

Any student who needs help, any student who has suffered in their lifetime and might need extra help, should be recruited into this program. The first question you ask a student who needs help should not be, what’s the color of your skin or what’s your ethnicity? So what we are saying is that by recruiting Blacks and Hispanics to this program, they are necessarily excluding from that recruitment Asian students and White students.

This should be for everybody. And we’re calling on the Department of Justice to insist that CUNY recruit on a race neutral basis.

Varney:

We have a statement from the City University of New York’s Black Male Initiative. They say it’s open to all students regardless of race, gender, or national origin. You contest that, that’s not true?

WAJ:

That might be what they say, but how they promote it, they specifically say, it’s their entire promotion, this is for Black and Hispanic students, so no White student and no Asian student is even going to apply. So that’s an attempt to obfuscate what they’re doing.

What they’re doing is they’re promoting a program as being for Blacks and Hispanics. They know that White students and Asian students therefore likely will not apply. So for them to say it’s open to everybody is really a deception.

Varney:

The Health and Human Services department is looking into a complaint of racial preferences in Biden era healthcare training grants. Is this a form of discrimination? Can you explain this?

WAJ:

Yes. One of the things we do is that we challenge not only universities like CUNY, we also challenge the federal government to live up to its own standards.

The Trump administration has been very aggressive in trying to get racial discrimination out of its grant programming. But we found three programs from the Biden era which are still operating, and we called the attention of Health and Human Services to those three programs, that these are not only unlawful, they violate the president’s executive orders on discrimination and contracting and grant making.

The problem with the [DEI] discrimination is that it is so embedded in the system that trying to get it out is like trying to get soap out of a sponge, that every time you squeeze it, you find more and more.

At the Equal Protection Project, we’re trying to squeeze discrimination out of the system.

Varney:

Well, that’s a good analogy, soap out of a sponge. William Jacobson, as always, thanks for joining us. We hope to see you again soon.

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