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Authorities Recovered Evidence, DNA at Brown Shooting Scene

Authorities Recovered Evidence, DNA at Brown Shooting Scene

Great. Now do something.

The Providence police chief told Fox News that authorities recovered physical evidence and DNA at the Brown University crime scene.

From Fox News:

When Fox News on Wednesday asked Col. Oscar Perez whether investigators were able to find live ammunition from the scene, the police chief said investigators were able to get physical evidence.

“Oh yeah, we seized a few physical evidence and we’re in the process of examining that evidence,” Perez told Fox News. “And yes, we have some DNA that we manipulated and so it just progresses everyday.”

Perez added: “It progresses everyday with forensics, it progresses everyday with witness statements and so yeah, we’re just trying to find out and we are going to do our best.”

A law enforcement official familiar with the case told The New York Times on condition of anonymity that DNA, along with fingerprints, came from shell casings from the shooting scene.

Sources also told Fox News contributor Paul Mauro that authorities confiscated live rounds at the scene:

“What I can tell you from my sources is that I think quite significantly, they have live rounds, that is, rounds that were not fired on detonated rounds,” Mauro said during an appearance on “Fox & Friends” on Thursday. “Why does that matter? Because shell casings have enclosed a detonation. That’s how bullets work. Which means they often destroy evidence and they’re scorched.”

“In the case of live rounds, think about what happens there on a nine millimeter automatic,” Mauro continued. “The perpetrator has to fat finger those live rounds, bullets, into a magazine, which is the sleeve that holds them and that gets put into the handle of the gun. That’s how a semi-automatic works.”

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I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m not sure they have anything. They could just be kicking the can down the road.

    Dr. Ed in reply to ztakddot. | December 19, 2025 at 10:10 pm

    They apparently do — but they have TWO sets of DNA from DIFFERENT people.

    Apparently they recovered two clips, about 40 shell casings, and one live round.
    Apparently you can recover DNA off *fired* shell casings, I did not know that but it’s a technology that’s developed in the past few years.

    Well the perp used three different brands of ammo so it isn’t someone at the factory, although I suspect they package ammo by machine. Both the perp AND SOMEONE ELSE touched all of his ammo — WHO IS THIS OTHER PERSON?

    See: https://www.scribd.com/document/968825317/Claudio-Manuel-Neves-Valente-Affidavit#from_embed

Embarrassing. Someone walks onto a college campus, shoots people and walks away into the ether.

BigRosieGreenbaum | December 18, 2025 at 11:11 am

Here’s another picture of the suspect at the top
https://x.com/ProvidenceRIPD/status/2001390136857178172

At least it is not another Bigfoot-style photo of a guy wearing a mask. But DNA evidence is no good unless they have the perp’s DNA to compare it to.

1) DNA is useful. You’d be amazed/dismayed at how large the human DNA identification banks are. And even if the perp isn’t in the bank, a relative of his may be.

2) A live round (better said, cartridge) indeed is loaded into the magazine by hand. Gloves fix the fingerprint problem if the perp was that careful. Was he?

3) Why would a live, unfired cartridge be recovered at the scene? Wonder if the perp had a jam and had to clear it. The knowledge/ability to clear, quickly, a jam suggests some familiarity with pistols and their use, and that helps to build an ID of the perp.

4) The perp apparently was smart enough not to walk into the classroom hall with his cell phone.

    As for 2. He was smart enough to go online and see the camera coverage at Brown and avoid it so most likely. A unfired round could be from a number of things even a light primer hit. If it didn’t fire then just pulling the slide and ejecting the round would put the handgun back in operation.

    JackinSilverSpring in reply to stevewhitemd. | December 18, 2025 at 11:58 am

    One cartridge due to a misfire is credible; multiple cartridges stretch the imagination into incredulity. Did the perp have a pocket full of cartridges? What is more believable is that the Providence police chief is a DIE hire and incompetent.

      Yeah…all I can come up with for an ‘explanation’ of multiple unfired but ejected rounds discovered is multiple ‘stove pipe’ feeds. I suppose a poorly maintained, cheap 9mm with cheap magazines/worn springs in mags could account for it. Maybe in addition the dude went to range and practiced but didn’t clean the weapon?

      See above — police recovered two 30 round clips. Perp fired about 40 rounds.
      My guess is that he replaced clips before they were empty, which would leave live rounds in the clips. Although what I’ve read is that they can recover DNA from fired brass now.

    1) You are so right, I’m in the DNA banks and every week it seems I get one or more notifications of new relatives. They’re usually 4th or 5th cousins and they’re from everywhere.

    irishgladiator63 in reply to stevewhitemd. | December 18, 2025 at 12:41 pm

    I would just assume he dropped a spare magazine or switched magazines before one was completely empty. Over 40 shots were fired, so I’m assuming he had multiple magazines.

“The perpetrator has to fat finger those live rounds, bullets, into a magazine, which is the sleeve that holds them and that gets put into the handle of the gun.”

Fat finger into the handle? You need another expert.

    The Packetman in reply to diver64. | December 18, 2025 at 2:59 pm

    Indeed, That was one of the most … interesting … explanations I’ve ever heard.

      henrybowman in reply to The Packetman. | December 18, 2025 at 6:10 pm

      From his “sleeve” reference, I assume he was trying to be nice and explain it in terms his six-year-old viewers (and Democrats) would understand,

    CommoChief in reply to diver64. | December 18, 2025 at 6:15 pm

    I’ll cut him some slack on his phrasing and his creative ‘nomenclature’ b/c he’s explaining to a general audience without any equipment to demonstrate actual process.

The DNA will identify the perp’s preferred pronouns as they and them.

Let me don a rumpled suit and raincoat, light a small cigar, and give you my very best Lieutenant Columbo impersonation…

“Oh! Just one more thing… I think that the victim was targeted because she was an intelligent white Christian conservative woman and the perpetrator was triggered because he was a radical Islamist terrorist.”

It’s almost as though we’ve heard this song before, that islam is not a religion but rather a 7th century death cult.

Subotai Bahadur | December 18, 2025 at 12:45 pm

As a retired Peace Officer, I admit that I am more cynical than most people. Given the cluster that we have been watching since this happened, I would not be surprised to see Brown University’s lawyers file to have any DNA and fingerprint evidence suppressed.

Subotai Bahadur

You got to love the usual suspects. Mass murder event featuring a handgun in a gun restricting city and state. Scream for more gun control especially for assault rifles, those mean looking weapons of war. Complete and utter useless asshats – all of them.

    henrybowman in reply to ztakddot. | December 18, 2025 at 6:12 pm

    Gun control is a cult. It collects mindless asshats.
    The same type of asshats who contribute to any “charity” with “feed hungry children” in its name.

destroycommunism | December 18, 2025 at 4:28 pm

in another week:

brown u rep:

if trump hadnt stopped the dei here we’d have caught the shooter

“In the case of live rounds, think about what happens there on a nine millimeter automatic,” Mauro continued. “The perpetrator has to fat finger those live rounds, bullets, into a magazine, which is the sleeve that holds them and that gets put into the handle of the gun. That’s how a semi-automatic works.”

I’m sorry but I cannot understand this gobbledygook.
Wtf is he talking about.

    CommoChief in reply to patchman2076. | December 19, 2025 at 2:10 pm

    I took it to mean you gotta touch each round to load the magazine and that’s how they got fingerprint/DNA off the ejected but unfired rounds discovered at the scene. Some Jack leg out there probably doesn’t understand how ammunition is loaded or heck that ammunition doesn’t ‘come with’ the firearm pre loaded at purchase or some such. Amazing how much lack of basic knowledge and plain misinformation about firearms exists in public.