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Elon Musk Says Will Launch The “America Party” In Third-Party Attempt To Punish Republicans

Elon Musk Says Will Launch The “America Party” In Third-Party Attempt To Punish Republicans

Considering how much Democrats hate Musk and want to bring him down – and they absolutely will if they regain power – Elon shouldn’t wish to0 hard for something, his third party ploy may just get it for him.

The breakup between Donald Trump and Elon Musk started with Musk’s harsh criticism of and then attempt to prevent passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.

Musk ran a “poll” on X as to whether he should form a third party. There were 1.2 million votes – which could and likely does include bots and manipulators – and the result was 65% voting in favor:

Now Musk is going third party, he says:

By a factor of 2 to 1, you want a new political party and you shall have it! When it comes to bankrupting our country with waste & graft, we live in a one-party system, not a democracy. Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom.

Whether this is a “real” intent to form an independent party is questionable. It’s one thing to talk about it, it’s another thing to do it and to put the infrastructure in place including candidates who can win.

But if Musk does form a third party, and he certainly has the money to do it, it’s uniformly predicted to ciphon away more Republicans, perhaps enough to hand the House back to the Democrats. Musk feels he has power because it will only take a small change in voting patters to make a large national impact as to control of the House:

A lot of people trying to elect Republicans are not happy and sense doom.

Considering how much Democrats hate Musk and want to bring him down – and they absolutely will if they regain power – Elon shouldn’t wish too hard for something; his third-party ploy may just get it for him.

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walls | July 5, 2025 at 9:12 pm

Roger Stone is correct. We need to get rid of all the RINO’s and push Uber fiscal conservative policy.


     
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    Milhouse in reply to walls. | July 6, 2025 at 6:40 am

    And how exactly are we going to do that? The only sure way to “get rid of all the RINOs” is to help the Democrats defeat them; but that will not help push any kind of conservative fiscal policy.

    That is the reality, and wishing it away won’t change it.


     
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    JR in reply to walls. | July 6, 2025 at 8:10 am

    You will never push or achieve fiscal conservative policy with Trump and his supporters. 4 trillion dollars of new debt. No cuts in federal spending. No reduction in the deficit, No balanced budget.


       
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      guyjones in reply to JR. | July 6, 2025 at 8:13 am

      Jerkoff-Retard would have people believe that the vile Dhimmi-crats, who’ve turned fiscal profligacy and grift into an art form, are paragons of thrift and fiscal prudence.

      Total moron.


       
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      steves59 in reply to JR. | July 6, 2025 at 8:38 am

      Given you kept silent during Biden’s addition of $8 trillion to the national debt, you have zero moral authority to speak out now.
      Stuff a sock in it, buffoon.


 
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SeymourButz | July 5, 2025 at 9:23 pm

This shyster jumping on to Trump’s bandwagon only after a failed assassination attempt and Kamala’s campaign sputtering out should have been a red flag for you. He only cares about subsidies and tech investments. He doesn’t care about your freedom.


 
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rhhardin | July 5, 2025 at 9:31 pm

That was Perot’s plan. He ran on balancing the budget and gave us Clinton.


     
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    healthguyfsu in reply to rhhardin. | July 5, 2025 at 10:56 pm

    Musk can’t run for POTUS so that point is moot. He wants to target the legislature and the bad porky bills. It’s not like these candidates will vote only with Dems. I think the article is not properly assessing the value of a bloc that stops the plunder.


       
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      ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to healthguyfsu. | July 5, 2025 at 11:31 pm

      Musk and his bloc (assuming he gets one) won’t improve any legislation, at all. They will serve EXCLUSIVELY to make all legislation worse. No doubt about it.

      Musk is thinking in party-oriented parliamentary terms, not US individual Congressional terms. The mechanics of everything are totally different. He’s certainly smart enough that he should know that … so I am assuming there are ulterior motives at work that have nothing to do with actual politics and governance.


       
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      henrybowman in reply to healthguyfsu. | July 6, 2025 at 1:40 am

      The premise is illusory. It imagines Musk’s party will target a handful of weak Republican seats and convert them to American Party seats, then act as legislative kingmakers. In reality, it will convert them to Democrat seats… because the American Party will assemble enough votes to cause the Republicans to lose those seats, but nowhere near enough to allow the American Party to win them.


         
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        CommoChief in reply to henrybowman. | July 6, 2025 at 6:13 am

        Single issue/single theme candidates focused on cutting current spending, reining in the go along to get along status quo where spending cuts are always put off till manana, the debt keeps growing out of control despite campaign promises would at minimum shift the focus in those campaigns.

        If the voters in the targeted CD/State want to exercise their choice to select a candidate who will vote to cut spending v continue to talk about it instead of actually doing so when in DC ….that doesn’t seem objectionable to me. Same for 2A issues. The two Perot campaigns may have shifted the tide to Clinton …BUT Clinton also moved to the center along with sparking GoP Contract with America and Gingrich’s rise in power to put a coalition in DC that took tough actions towards a balanced budget (technically).


           
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          Pepsi_Freak in reply to CommoChief. | July 7, 2025 at 11:12 am

          I can certainly understand Musk’s anger at being sold out by Trump. After all the “free” work he and his DOGE group did to discover and target fraud, waste, and abuse of taxpayer money only to see most of it ignored by Trump and indeed the debt exploded by another $5 trillion, I can see him figuring he was being played for a chump. He may not expect to win a major change in 2026 but he may be able to put the brakes on more improvident spending.

          I understand Trump’s focus on his tax cuts but not to the exclusion of spending cuts. I really wish Trump and Musk could work together, but left to his own devices I do not see Trump reducing spending. If Musk can get enough House and Senate seats to force Trump to deal, Musk can force Trump to cut spending and that may be the only way spending can be cut — the Uniparty is not at all interested in spending cuts.


     
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    ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to rhhardin. | July 5, 2025 at 11:29 pm

    Perot also ran heavily on being anti-NAFTA (“that giant sucking sound”) which he was totally correct about.

    Perot was generally okay and knew what he was doing but he had this ridiculous wish to turn AMerica into a direct democracy. He was talking about having national referenda to decide … just about everything. That was crazy stuff and totally divorced from Americanism.

    Perot also used to manhandle the press like Trump does. Perot had them terrified to even ask questions. I remember that used to be pretty funny.

    But Clinton definitely would not have won (either time!) without Perot in there, which is why I laugh when people talk about how great Carville and Staphalopagous were. They sucked. Clinton won by default and nothing else.


     
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    Sanddog in reply to rhhardin. | July 6, 2025 at 9:39 am

    No, the republican party gave us Clinton. Perot didn’t give us spineless, mealy-mouthed republican candidates, the RNC did that all on their own. The republican party lost their way and Perot and Trump were both the natural outcome of a party trying it’s best for decades to commit national suicide. Trump was able to gain enough support that the RNC couldn’t stop him but for those of you with really short term memory, establishment republicans channeled their inner mean girl and fought him tooth and nail his first term in office.


     
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    MarkS in reply to rhhardin. | July 6, 2025 at 9:51 am

    ,…….who balanced the budget!


       
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      ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to MarkS. | July 6, 2025 at 8:56 pm

      Newt (almost) balanced the budget.

      The budget was never balanced. Even though a couple of years they recorded “No deficit” the national debt still increased a bit, so it was never really in balance.

      But Newt was the one who put all that legislation through. It was the Contract With America, not Clinton.

Horrible idea.


 
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Paddy M | July 5, 2025 at 9:36 pm

The Libertardian Party 2.0.


 
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ztakddot | July 5, 2025 at 9:44 pm

Ross Perot V2. Timing is everything and this is a terrible time to create a third party, Everything done will be undone and more and we will be right back where we were prior to electing 47 and it would happen very fast.


     
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    artichoke in reply to ztakddot. | July 6, 2025 at 1:09 am

    We might have lost the House in 2026 anyway. We only have a tiny majority because of Trump’s coattails over a terrible Dem ticket in 2024, and the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms.

    This “Big Beautiful Bill” might be the only significant legislation of Trump 47. Won’t be able to pass much next year, then after 2026 maybe can’t pass anything. This is what I thought before Musk announced his new party. Now it’s probably worse, but at any rate Musk is a kingmaker.


 
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MarkSmith | July 5, 2025 at 10:24 pm

Both Perot and Musk made their fortunes at the government trough. Starlink,ha look up t stat and tmos. Ip in space was around before anyone know who Musk was.

I doubt his party will caucus with the Dems. I don’t think it will split the party. MAGA is ground game Orgaic Tea Party. Musk is a footnote.


 
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alaskabob | July 5, 2025 at 10:55 pm

Money + Brain doesn’t equal common sense. If he “succeeded” he would become the most despised man….he would usher in one party rule and he would be marginalized. He didn’t get HIS way… yet he was offered so much and threw it all away. He wore out his welcome… he has none of the resilience of Trump.


     
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    artichoke in reply to alaskabob. | July 6, 2025 at 1:06 am

    I think his goals are different. If Kamala hadn’t been such a negative specter that had to be avoided, I doubt he would have joined with Trump. It was a sort of unity ticket to avoid disaster, but now their underlying differences come to the surface.

This is a mistake, for reasons which should be obvious.


     
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    artichoke in reply to UJ. | July 6, 2025 at 1:03 am

    It’s bad for Republicans, but he’s no longer a Republican. He’s now the leader of his new party, and he’s announced his aim to be a kingmaker, applying pressure at precise points in our system.


 
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ThePrimordialOrderedPair | July 5, 2025 at 11:18 pm

Musk is really losing it. What he’s setting out to do will do nothing but serve as a spoiler – both in political seats and in final legislation. It will guarantee worse legislation for EVERYTHING because most things will have to be worked out around whoever Musk is able to wrangle, and he might well wrangle a few House and Senate seats since spending 10 or 20 billion would be nothing for him.

As John McCain wasted the goodwill the country had for him from his service and ended up being one of the worst, most treasonous pieces of sh*t to serve in political office (doing as much damage as anyone outside of Barky and his gang) Elon seems bent on wasting all the goodwill he collected by his sacrifices buying Twitter and helping in 2024. He is working, now, to be a truckload of sand in the gears of the United States political machine. No good will come of it.

We have seen, from his railing at the Big Beautiful Bill that he is just flailing. He offered no alternative (and there really was nothing better that could have passed Congress with the super-slim margins the GOP has) and didn’t seem to recognize the simple fact that if the BBB went down what would eventually pass would be so much worse that it would make everyone’s head spin. But he pushed for it to go down, anyway, and even tried issuing political threats to Congress Critters.

Elon should get things going on Mars as quickly as he can, where he will be Emperor, so he can do whatever he wants there.

This is really sad to watch. But … not totally unexpected.


     
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    artichoke in reply to ThePrimordialOrderedPair. | July 6, 2025 at 1:04 am

    He knows all this. He’s announced his intent to be a spoiler in carefully chosen races. This will probably give him a lot of continued political power, and more than almost anyone he’ll find clever ways to use it.


       
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      Concise in reply to artichoke. | July 6, 2025 at 6:53 am

      Yes, of course he does. But not sure how serious he is. He sometimes, shall we say, exaggerates a little. And a few disgruntled X trolls doesn’t seem like a strong foundation for any political party.

Musk can’t accept that Trump is not a king, and a new party at this time may not have the intended effect. Will Massie be the first member?


 
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geronl | July 6, 2025 at 1:42 am

The EV subsidy, H1B Visa Party?


 
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xleatherneck | July 6, 2025 at 1:55 am

We are geared for a two party, confrontational system, especially considering the freedoms we have.

Musk is free to do whatever he wants, but his aspirations for a major third party is going absolutely nowhere, especially one that is formulated on resentment.

My opinion of Musk has completely changed over the last year, and not for the better…


 
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mailman | July 6, 2025 at 3:04 am

No, I don’t see this as changing much next year. People loved Elon AND Trump, not Just Elon alone.

Democrats hates Elon AND Trump and now all they will do is hate Elon on his own 🤷‍♂️


 
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VaGentleman | July 6, 2025 at 5:22 am

If the republicans were to do what they were elected to do, they could neutralize a lot of the reasons for a 3rd party.


 
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joejoejoe | July 6, 2025 at 6:33 am

paging Ross Perot


 
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CommoChief | July 6, 2025 at 6:51 am

I see many posts claiming that a third party candidate focused on a single issue of fiscal discipline will somehow be a spoiler that flips the 8-10 HoR and 2-3 Senate races. Let’s accept those claims as true for the moment. What’s so appealing about this hypothetical third party candidate? Why would enough voters to matter in an election flip from GoP to support them?

The answer is the abject failure if the GoP to make real cuts to current spending. Every election cycle the GoP harps on cutting spending. They decry the ballooning National debt. Then when they get into office and it’s time to vote on appropriation bills and funding authorization bills what happens? We know what happens; the Members complain about the ‘process’ and how tough it is get things done in DC and then vote to increase the debt ceiling and increase spending…. all the while giving another pinky promise to cut spending ‘next time’. Always manana never today. Many observers are tired of the Kabuki theater.

Any incumbent, any candidate and any voters or commenters who are concerned that a 3rd party candidate running on cutting spending, moving swiftly to a balanced budget and paying down instead of increasing the National Debt won’t have that to worry about …IF the current GoP office holders would simply vote in DC to do the things they promised to do in their prior election campaigns to get elected.

Holding members of Congress accountable for their failure to follow through on their campaign promises doesn’t seem like an extreme or radical act. It seems like
the common sense mechanics of a functioning republic. All these guys gotta do is what they campaigned on instead of going to DC and ‘growing’ once in office. If they do that then a 3rd party candidate focused on fiscal discipline won’t get any traction with voters b/c the very reason for the 3rd party candidate won’t exist anymore.

I suspect the real reason for concern about the creation of a 3rd party laser.focused on fiscal discipline, cutting current spending, getting to a balanced budget and paying down the National debt is b/c many folks recognize the reality; the current 2 party system hasn’t seriously addressed fiscal discipline since the last Clinton budget and unless they are dragged kicking and screaming, forced to do so they won’t, despite continued unfulfilled GoP promises to do it.


     
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    mailman in reply to CommoChief. | July 6, 2025 at 8:10 am

    You’re not going to get that with Democrats holding the purse strings.

    You’re also not going to get a balanced budget with the current system of competing interests in Congress and the Senate and that won’t change regardless of who is sitting in the big seat.

    What you will get with Democrats though is a continuation of their back door funding of their friends and pet projects. At least for now that’s been stopped or slowed.


       
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      jqusnr in reply to mailman. | July 6, 2025 at 8:19 am

      if the current GOP seat holder doesn’t do his job … that is why we
      have primaries ….


       
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      CommoChief in reply to mailman. | July 6, 2025 at 9:13 am

      The KEY phrase in your argument against the idea is ‘…with the CURRENT system …’. This is exactly what Musk is proposing to disrupt by adding a 3rd party candidate with a realistic opportunity to win a general election to office by focusing on fiscal restraint, cutting current spending and working towards a balanced budget v the current system of Kabuki theater.

      Imagine if there were 8-12 in HoR and 2-3 Senators who demanded realistic cuts to spending that only required a little more spine by their peers in return for their votes to pass legislation. (basically the Freedom Caucus but as a separate political party that still caucuses with the GoP to provide organizational control to the GoP).

      The sausage making in DC now has another element whose members can’t be ignored….unless the GoP has an overwhelming majority (which would in theory make the third party redundant b/c the overwhelming GoP majority in HoR and Senate would vote to pass current spending cuts and reducing the National Debt. Of course that’s what the GoP promises to do each election cycle but hasn’t gotten around to delivering on in the 21st century.

      All the GoP has to do to pull the rug out from under any 3rd party focused on fiscal discipline is to DO what the GoP has already campaigned on doing. If the GoP fulfills their campaign promises then there’s no traction for 3rd party focused on bringing true fiscal discipline to DC b/c it will have already been done by the GoP itself.

      IMO the reason many are concerned about a 3rd party is that they recognize the GoP won’t do it. Instead they will talk about it but pander to the big spenders and crony capitalism cabal when its time to vote. A functional 3rd party in Congress focused on fiscal discipline would force GoP establishment leaders to choose to earn their votes for legislation or continue to pander to big spenders.


     
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    gibbie in reply to CommoChief. | July 6, 2025 at 6:05 pm

    “IF the current GoP office holders would simply vote in DC to do the things they promised to do in their prior election campaigns to get elected.”

    The problem is that the System in place in DC makes it impossible to “simply vote” on anything. The Senate “rules” are our equivalent for the laws of “the Medes and the Persians which cannot be revoked”.

    If, as I think is the case, there are “rules” which determine what kind of budget decisions require a 2/3 majority vs a simple majority, the only action which has a chance of making a difference is to get more conservatives elected. Getting rid of some Republicans cannot possibly solve the problem.

    One way of getting more conservatives elected is for conservatives to persuasively make their case. Elon Musk’s purchase of X has made this more possible. There are many more things he could do – other than split the vote.

    Our political system is not a machine one can “fix”. It’s a human institution, subject to all the flaws of human nature.


     
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    artichoke in reply to CommoChief. | July 7, 2025 at 4:54 pm

    Republicans tried to include a lot more cuts to spending in OBBB than the Senate parliamentarian allowed. Who had been appointed by Dem. Harry Reid.

    What do you expect Republicans with a razor thin majority in the House, and needing Reconciliation to pass anything in the Senate, and absolute discipline among every Dem opposing it — how good a bill can you expect? And now you blame them?

    Sure, go ahead and vote for Musk’s spoilers.


 
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AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | July 6, 2025 at 8:37 am

The resolution is to cutting spending and getting our American house in order is not another party. The resolution is 12-year term limits and greater Republican representation. The 12-years is for each side of Congress. Six terms in the House, 2 terms in the Senate.

The current ratio of Representatives to population is about 760,000. The Constitution limits is not to exceed one per 30,000.

The current number of 435 Representatives and 5 Delegates is simply a limit set by Congress.

Change it.

Make the number of Representatives 600, or 1 thousand, or 2,000. That will force better representation of the red areas of the US, and not have Democrat cities dominating the voting districts.

Then, and only then, will you see better representation of the people.

The next resolution is limiting how long congressional staffers are permitted to work. These “professional” unelected politicians regularly jump parties, and are hired by Republicans and Democrats alike. They slip their chosen ideological bias into each bill that is written. Limit their participation, and force newly elected reps to bring people with them from home.


 
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E Howard Hunt | July 6, 2025 at 8:38 am

He can initiate a renaissance of American manufacturing using Tesla as a model. Spur the production of uneconomical products that rational people won’t buy by handing out government money for their sale.

Musk is simply negotiating with Trump.


 
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Obie1 | July 6, 2025 at 10:02 am

So what will the people who are keying Teslas do? Start randomly washing and waxing them in parking lots?

BWT, “ciphon,” “patters”? I’m available for no-cost proofreading.


 
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Olinser | July 6, 2025 at 10:44 am

The fact that the first 2 people to publicly offer their support were Mark Cuban and Anthony Scaramucci tells you everything you need to know about exactly who would support this nonsense.

The actual way to get a 3rd party off the ground would be to carefully recruit viable candidates in several districts and announce them.

Instead Musk is trying to Underpants Gnome this nonsense:

Step 1) Announce 3rd party
Step 2) ??
Step 3) Win seats!

Yes, the RINO party sucks. Yes, we all wish it were different. And all Musk is doing is making a party that’s going to, AT BEST, be the refuge for RINOs who can’t win the primary to try to cling to power.

Musk’s ego makes him believe that he can somehow make it work when the Reform Party and lolbertarian party have failed.


     
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    CommoChief in reply to Olinser. | July 6, 2025 at 2:54 pm

    Nah. Firstly the point of this ‘3rd party’ is fiscal discipline, cutting current spending, rapidly reducing the annual budget deficit and to begin paying down the $37 Trillion (growing by $1 Trillion every 100 days ish) National debt. Not many rino are gonna be onboard with those things….that’s what makes them rinos. So any worries about this as a vehicle for big spender rinos to get elected, come to DC and vote for more spending, larger annual budget deficits and unsustainable national debt should be cast aside. The rinos already have a political vehicle for that… the establishment GoP.

    Secondly it doesn’t seem the goal is a national 3rd party but a narrow, targeted one focused on a dozen or so DC in the HoR and 2-3 Senate seats in select States. I have zero inside knowledge but I’d guess that Musk is looking at the 20 (+/-) most libertarian leaning CD and the half dozen most libertarian leaning States. That’s where I would seek to field candidates to run competitive 3rd party campaigns about fiscal discipline b/c it’s the most fertile political ground and most receptive to these ideas.

    Imagine if one of the States was Oklahoma. The GoP establishment is gonna be pushing the incumbent Lankford who tried to jam amnesty, open borders and all sorts of nonsense down out throats with his ‘bipartisan’ immigration bill. What if there was an existing groundswell author goon? What if there was a legitimate 3rd party candidate waiting in the wings in Nov even if the GoP establishment shoved Lankford to a primary victory?

    The threat of a competitive 3rd party candidate in the general election focused on fiscal discipline would create a choice for the GoP establishment. They’d have to weigh the risks of supporting an establishment stooge that the more conservative voters have grown tired of. There’s several Senators in +5 Red States and HoR in +5 CD who ware rinos; Cornyn in TX, Graham in SC, Lankford in OK as just three examples. What if the most conservative 50% of the GoP had a choice in the general election of a candidate at least as committed to fiscal discipline as they are? What if voters in Nov had good option besides stay home, vote d/prog or reluctantly pull the lever for a rino? IMO it would force these rinos in deep red States and CD to stop being complacent and taking the most fiscally conservative voters for granted. At minimum it would cause the establishment GoP to do more than lip service to fiscal discipline in candidate selection and in DC votes to cut current spending.


       
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      gibbie in reply to CommoChief. | July 6, 2025 at 6:14 pm

      This won’t work unless the majority of voters are sufficiently wise and self disciplined to vote against their immediate gratification.


         
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        Pepsi_Freak in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2025 at 11:59 am

        At the rate we are going we are on the verge of international bankruptcy and as it becomes more apparent more and more voters are going to have to decide to pull up their sox and fix the budget. That means workable budgeting which of necessity means voting against immediate gratification.


 
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Dolce Far Niente | July 6, 2025 at 11:19 am

The Republican Party, as it’s presently constituted is NOT a conservative party, merely more conservative than the Dems.

And most conservative DO WANT a new party, an America First party, but not at the risk of handing national elections to the loony Dems. We will stick with the R’s, because the alternative is worse.

Musk would have been immensely influential had he kept his promise to primary Uniparty R’s and finance the campaigns of America First candidates, but this egoistic attempt to throw sand in Trump’s gears is so shortsighted.

My hope is that his autistic attention span will be short and he’ll get bored and wander away., He personally is not charismatic enough to be the nucleus of a new party and “Too much spending!!”, however true it is, is not a rallying cry of the masses.


 
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gonzotx | July 6, 2025 at 11:25 am

“American Party”

That’s the name I picked for Trump when the Republicans were stabbing him in the back repeatedly


 
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destroycommunism | July 6, 2025 at 11:29 am

the gop AND THE DEMS have agreed before on getting/giving more pwoer to the states when it came to healthcare

thats the antidote to this lefty move at the federal level

get it all local

then let those locals decide if they want to pay DIRECTLY for those who want tax assistance


 
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destroycommunism | July 6, 2025 at 11:47 am

We already have a 3rd party

the gop
the dems
the rinos


 
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kelly_3406 | July 6, 2025 at 11:51 am

If DOGE had succeeded in identifying $2T in cuts, as promised by Musk, and then Republicans refused to include them, a 3rd party might be warranted. Having identified only a few hundred $B in cuts, Musk appears to be throwing a fit over the loss of EV subsidies, which actually does reduce the deficit. Much hypocrisy all the way around.


 
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LegalBeagle1791 | July 6, 2025 at 12:05 pm

Sorry Elon, but you’d be far better to focus your time, effort and money on electing additional financially conservative republican representatives and senators. A third party, even if the most conservative citizens in the country will not significant impact spending and protection of American freedoms for the foreseeable future. Adding 20 conservatives to the House and a handful to the Senate can make a substantial difference!


 
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smooth | July 6, 2025 at 12:36 pm

His 3rd party project will be difficult to sustain. He can’t run for high office himself. All he can do is bankroll politicians that claim they aren’t dem or rep. He might become an “influencer” in battleground state.

Elon should take a note from Soros and use his techniques, but for good.

Beelzebub successfully targeted lower level offices. He usually uses OPM (ie taxpayer money) and not his own.

Starting a political movement starts at the School Boards, the City and County Council, and those politicians get careers and move ahead.

The Ross Perot schtick relies on the star power of one individual. Politics is a team sport. Poaching votes from Republicans only works if you are going to beat the worst candidate. Perot gave us 8 years of the worst candidate.


     
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    gibbie in reply to Andy. | July 6, 2025 at 6:20 pm

    Thank you for your reference to the Lord of the Flies. Soros is a prime example of good intentions being the pavement of the road to hell.


 
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kermitrulez | July 6, 2025 at 10:42 pm

The cynic in me looks at this as the execution of a beautiful strategy.

The lifelong Democrat tech magnate suddenly switches parties and ingratiates himself to the lifelong Democrat that actually had a crisis of ideology. He then wins over the hearts of a number of conservatives not happy with the President for his compromises and picks a fight with that President on the day that he can no longer “serve” at his side. This drives the wedge into the Republican Party between the staunch fiscal conservatives and the rest.

Step 2 is to create a third party that pulls only the people that Musk won over from Trump. The more successful this third party is, the more we will get Democrat policies. Meanwhile, the Democrats, who should be panicking and re-strategizing, are simply sitting pat and unified and letting this gambit play out. This is a very strong tell that something nefarious is occurring.

When the D’s win both houses of Congress back in spite of the obvious and unavoidable success of the Administration, the media will tell us all about how its normal for the pendulum to swing back sharply after a single party holds Congress and the Executive. Similar to how they always tell us that is absolutely normal that absentee and early voting swings hugely in favor of Democrats. And then run a story about some Republican challenging the ballot machines so that we are distracted from questioning the actual votes themselves.

The cards have been dealt and there is no avoiding the strategy. The only questions left are how long are we going to have the America Party ensuring Democrat wins and what our country will look like when Evil Mole is finished with his work.


     
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    artichoke in reply to kermitrulez. | July 7, 2025 at 5:49 pm

    Possible. Musk’s complaints about OBBB are at least partly disingenuous. He surely understands about the problems getting DOGE based reforms thru Congress, especially with the role of the Parliamentarian in the Senate. Not once did he acknowledge this or present a legislative strategy. Granted that’s not his job, but he’s such a smart guy and he must have some clever ideas.

    But the Dems can’t be happy he targeted and took out deep state operations including USAID. I don’t think he’s in with the Dems either, although maybe they’re hoping he is.

    I think he wants the presidency, for his own guy or maybe for himself. Ross Perot wasn’t just a spoiler in 1992. If he hadn’t disappeared during the campaign, he had a strong chance to win the election and be President Perot.

    As for the upcoming midterms they were difficult anyway, but Musk just made it worse. Even if he doesn’t get to be the king, he can be the kingmaker.


 
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Finn Harp | July 7, 2025 at 8:10 am

LI Editor: You got the headline wrong

Corrected Headline:
Elon Musk announces he will support the creation of a 3rd party to allow Americans seeking a balanced budget to be heard in Congress


 
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gourdhead | July 7, 2025 at 11:32 am

Is Musk off his meds?


 
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artichoke | July 7, 2025 at 4:58 pm

How many of you actually remember the GHWB vs. Perot vs. Clinton presidential election? They say Perot was a spoiler, and he was. He stayed in the race long enough to sink GHWB’s reelection.

What people don’t often remember is that once he had accomplished that, Perot dropped out of sight. Perot had been doing very well. He had a good chance to win the election and actually become president himself.

This was the time a third party did not have to be just a spoiler. I wouldn’t put it past Musk to have his party try to win the presidency with a candidate he can control.

Apparently he’s pissed off that he couldn’t control Trump, and isn’t it in character for him to try again?


 
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Gersh204 | July 8, 2025 at 9:00 pm

After his party spits the 2026 conservative vote and we end up with a Democrat majority in the house and senate Musk will be then the most hated man in America. Who will buy your cars and robots then Elon? Schmuck

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