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Trade War Fallout in China a Mystery; Beijing Stopped Reporting Key Economic Data

Trade War Fallout in China a Mystery; Beijing Stopped Reporting Key Economic Data

“Never Kneel Down! Bowing to a bully [U.S.] is like drinking poison to quench thirst — it only deepens the crisis.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Zv1Sr2kvI

Last week, China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a video titled, “Never Kneel Down!” According to Chinese officials, “bowing to a bully [U.S.] is like drinking poison to quench thirst — it only deepens the crisis.”

Despite reports of increasing worker unrest across China caused by “production shutdowns and job cuts” as well as a warning from Goldman Sachs that up to 16 million Chinese may soon be unemployed, Beijing continues to project confidence in its trade war with the U.S.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the Chinese government began withholding critical economic data in 2022, around the same time its economy began to sputter “under the weight of excessive debt, a crumbling real-estate market, and other troubles.”

According to the Journal, the CCP no longer provides data on “hundreds of data points,” including unemployment, the business confidence index, land sales, foreign investment data, and cremations.

Obviously, the lack of this information makes quantifying the trade war’s impact on its economy increasingly difficult.

Of course, even the data the government does release should be viewed with skepticism, as propaganda has been a preferred tool of Chinese authorities for over a century. For example, Beijing reported GDP growth at 5% in 2024 and 5.2% in 2023. Some economists believe they overstated the true results “by as much as 2 to 3 percentage points.”

In a discussion with Fox Business News host Maria Bartiromo last month, China expert Gordon Chang suggested the true rate was closer to zero. Chang said:

We see from the price signals it’s in a deflationary spiral down which is inconsistent with the 5-point growth that they reported for last year.

This is coming at a time when China is having its own 2008. In 2008, they didn’t want to have a recession, so they overstimulated their economy. They’ve accumulated all this debt. They don’t know what to do with it because this debt is internal which means if you try to resolve it, local parties are going to get hurt. They don’t have the political will to do that.

They’ve got their 2008. They’ve got Trump on tariffs. They’ve got deglobalization. This is all hitting China at the same time. And they have no answers for it in Beijing.

China’s lack of transparency has forced analysts to consider alternative indicators to get a read on the country’s economy such as “movie box office revenues, satellite data on the intensity of nighttime lights, the operating rates of cement factories and electricity generation by major power companies. Some parse location data from mapping services run by private companies such as Chinese tech giant Baidu to gauge business activity.”

One economist told the Journal he “assesses the health of China’s services sector by counting news stories about owners of gyms and beauty salons who abruptly close up and skip town with users’ membership fees.”

The article cited a leaked U.S. diplomatic cable from then-Chinese Premier Li Keqiang to the U.S. ambassador in 2007. Li allegedly said GDP data for the province he governed at the time were “man-made and therefore unreliable.” They were “for reference only.” He said that he analyzed “electricity consumption, rail-freight volumes and new bank loans” to get a true read on the economy.

In a separate piece, the Journal reported:

In December, a prominent Chinese economist at state-owned SDIC Securities, Gao Shanwen, said at a conference in Washington that China’s economic growth “might be around 2%” the past few years, adding, “we do not know the true number of China’s real growth figure.”

China’s leader Xi Jinping ordered that Gao be disciplined and he has been banned from speaking publicly for an unspecified period. The Securities Association of China warned brokerages in late December to ensure their economists “play a positive role” in boosting investor confidence.

So, in the end, I suppose it doesn’t matter that China has gone dark on economic data. The country’s lack of transparency at the start of the pandemic proved to the world that the CCP cannot be taken at their word.

Despite China’s facade of confidence, multiple reports in the U.S. media suggest that all is not well in the Land of the Dragon. Last week, CNN reported:

China’s factory activity contracted at its fastest pace in 16 months in April, as steep US tariffs took a heavy toll on the manufacturing sector, adding urgency to Beijing’s efforts to roll out fresh economic stimulus.

The manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) fell to 49.0 in April [from 50.5], the weakest reading since December 2023, according to data released by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) on Wednesday. A reading below 50 signals a contraction.

According to The Daily Caller, “Workers throughout China are flooding the streets in revolt as U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs slam the fragile Chinese export economy.”

If these reports are even remotely accurate, data or no data, the CCP will find it increasingly difficult to hide the truth.


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geronl | May 6, 2025 at 3:07 pm

Up to 16 million Chinese are about to be unemployed. There are already protests and who knows, maybe rioting will happen.


     
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    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to geronl. | May 6, 2025 at 3:14 pm

    Better yet, a revolution.


       
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      OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 6, 2025 at 9:46 pm

      The USSR lasted only 80 years. The CCP is at year 75. Cuba year 65. Communism cannot withstand the test of time. Sooner or later it implodes.


         
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        Fromage Du Nord in reply to OwenKellogg-Engineer. | May 7, 2025 at 2:32 am

        Don’t get your hopes up. This is a regime that killed upwards of 100 million in the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution and came out stronger when it was all done. The rioting unemployed won’t cause it to lose any sleep.


           
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          Evil Otto in reply to Fromage Du Nord. | May 7, 2025 at 7:16 am

          This right here. The USSR and its eastern European puppets fell because they gave up, gave a last death rattle, and let themselves collapse. China will not do that. Xi will kill as many people as he has to in order to retain power. A thousand, ten thousand, a hundred million.

          I’m thinking that a military coup is much more likely. Xi has been gleefully purging the Chinese military for years now, and combined with societal economic unrest the situation is perfect for some general to decide that his head isn’t going to be the next on the block. Dictators alway have to be careful when they’re dealing with the guys who have the guns, and it seems like Xi has forgotten that.

          And maybe that would be for the best. A general isn’t likely to economically push the remainders of socialism. Most aren’t particularly ideological. It could end up being a situation like South Korea’s postwar history.

          Or the general could decide to invade Taiwan. What the hell do I know?


     
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    JohnSmith100 in reply to geronl. | May 7, 2025 at 10:06 am

    China had 1.4 billion some years ago, now it is 400 million. I don’t think they can afford to continue killing citizens.

    Now Trump is squeezing their collective balls, they will comply.


 
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Martin | May 6, 2025 at 3:14 pm

That Mandate of Heaven can vanish pretty quickly.


 
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tlcomm2 | May 6, 2025 at 3:14 pm

China will kill protesters as well as any excess elderly population they may have. Mao and Xi are cut from the same cloth.


 
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CommoChief | May 6, 2025 at 3:18 pm

China depends upon exports to the USA. They gotta have the revenue generated from that to fund their common ponzi scheme. Without it they can’t survive at least in their current form. The EU, ironically, won’t drop their protectionist trade barriers to allow mass imports from China as.the USA has nor will they print enough Euro to sustain the trade. The 2nd and 3rd world doesn’t have the economic heft to make up the shortfall plus they don’t want their domestic markets flooded with Chinese goods. In sum China can bluster all they want but they don’t have much alternative but to make deal with Trump.


 
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ztakddot | May 6, 2025 at 3:31 pm

When things aren’t going well what does an authoritarian do? Identify an external enemy and attempt to focus peoples attentions on it. This is why we are getting more and more propaganda from the chinese. It is also why they might prematurely start a war with taiwan. The goal will be to divert their people’s attention to an external enemy rather than their true enemy, an internal one, the CCP.


     
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    c0cac0la in reply to ztakddot. | May 7, 2025 at 12:28 pm

    No they won’t, attack Taiwan that is. If they didn’t under Biden, they definitely won’t under Trump. they need to attack a winnable target, They will get humiliated trying to attack Taiwan, that’s the last thing they want. They won’t even publicly negotiate the Trump tariffs, there’s no way they’ll attack Taiwan without guaranteed success.


 
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scooterjay | May 6, 2025 at 3:54 pm

China cannot continue to milk the cow just to feed the cat.


     
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    scooterjay in reply to scooterjay. | May 6, 2025 at 3:58 pm

    Let me rephrase that…China cannot survive if they resort to milking the cow to sate the hunger of the cat.

    We had a different phrasing of this in rural South Carolina.


 
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destroycommunism | May 6, 2025 at 4:26 pm

the more we (hopefully) move back towards capitalism the more we will IN FACT win the war


     
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    docduracoat in reply to destroycommunism. | May 8, 2025 at 7:31 am

    Shelves are not empty in China.
    They are not even communist any more.
    While they are having unemployment problems now, there is a large middle class that buys luxury goods.


 
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henrybowman | May 6, 2025 at 4:57 pm

“Never Kneel Down! Bowing to a bully [U.S.] is like drinking poison”
Yeah, them commies are great at the outraged bluster.
“Capitalist running dogs of the revanchist counter-revolutionaries!”
Meanwhile, their people daily stand in hour-long lines to stare at empty shelves,

China’s major market is the USA and they have heavy tariffs on the USA plus they block many of our imports. China when they do not block an import they will copy it and then make cheaper knock-offs to send back.

With Trump’s tariffs of China it is affecting the Chinese economy and they do not want to admit it. COVID showed the virus came from China plus the vaccine came from China as most of Big Pharma is from China. This has shown that we have a National Security Issue with lack of industry and products being made in the USA.


     
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    henrybowman in reply to JG. | May 6, 2025 at 8:19 pm

    “China when they do not block an import they will copy it and then make cheaper knock-offs to send back.”
    Hey, exactly like “Amazon Basics!”


 
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DSHornet | May 6, 2025 at 5:48 pm

China has been blustering about invading Taiwan. This puts them closer to that. The next question will be whether they can sustain active military operations for any significant period against resistance from the Taiwanese as well as the American military. The Dragon, as well as the Bear, are in a quandary: Can we win a fight with the Eagle?

2025 is looking more and more interesting.
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    Evil Otto in reply to DSHornet. | May 7, 2025 at 7:23 am

    An invasion of Taiwan would be extremely difficult. Not impossible, certainly, but the odds are massively against success. I don’t see how it could be done in any great numbers. Getting troops across a hundred miles of open sea in the face of a prepared enemy (there would be no possibility of surprise) onto an island that had decades to prepare? Good luck.

    And a failed invasion would doom Xi.

    Methinks a blockade is more likely. And then we would face the problem of breaking it, supplying Taiwan… and Xi would have to decide whether to risk war with the United States and its allies. Japan would certainly jump in (a deep Chinese fear), and India might if it’s not busy with Pakistan.


 
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DaveGinOly | May 6, 2025 at 6:12 pm

Danny will be here soon to tell us why it’s OK for Xi to harm his economy on principle, as he has stated today elsewhere that Trump’s “trade war” shouldn’t have been launched because of the (temporary) harm it is doing.

Hang in there, Chairman Xi! Danny is standing by your side. Make the Americans hurt and let your people suffer as long as it hurts Trump!


 
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McGehee 🇺🇲 | May 6, 2025 at 6:45 pm

How do you say “FAFO” in Chinese?


 
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Ironclaw | May 6, 2025 at 7:09 pm

It sounds to me as if the Communists are getting kind of desperate. Good. Communism is only ever been very good at producing one thing, starvation


 
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diver64 | May 7, 2025 at 6:05 am

Those celebrating the demise of China’s economy should remember that a broke China will not buy US debt and they are the 2cd largest single country holder at nearly $1 Trillion. Who is going to buy that if they don’t?


 
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tjv1156 | May 7, 2025 at 7:09 am

So embarrassing we have this senile,abject moron running US trae policy.
“Fact check: Trump claimed the US doesn’t do ‘much business with Canada.’ Canada is the world’s top buyer of US exports”
{{GUTBUST}}
Not convinced?
“Think of us as a super luxury store,” the president continued. “You’re gonna come, and you’re gonna pay a price, and we’re gonna give you a very good price, we’re gonna make very good deals, and in some cases we’ll adjust, but that’s where it is.”

That’s where it is — complete economic incoherence from start to finish. The U.S. is not one store, the president does not own the country, and he does not get to decide what its prices are. The U.S. contains a complex economy of lots of stores, factories, office buildings, restaurants, and other businesses, which employ millions of different people doing different jobs. Those people make different purchasing decisions for different reasons, both as producers and as consumers. And Americans, not foreigners, are the ones who bear the burden of tariffs because Trump decides he doesn’t like their purchasing decisions.”The faux-sophisticated defenses of Trump’s tariff policy as being driven by export promotion or negotiating more trade deals are blown up by Trump’s own words. He really likes tariffs, and he really doesn’t understand what they are or what they do.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-doesnt-believe-what-his-defenders-say-he-believes-about-tariffs/


     
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    Evil Otto in reply to tjv1156. | May 7, 2025 at 7:24 am

    No one gives a shit, trollboy.


     
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    Azathoth in reply to tjv1156. | May 7, 2025 at 12:42 pm

    People need to read this moron’s link.

    They need to understand what a putrescent fever swamp National Review has become.

    Because the ‘conservatives’ and ‘republicans’ who write there SOUND like TJV1156.

    And what empty sounds they make–

    ‘Explain to us, in this public forum, your exact strategy, including citing specifically when and where you are bluffing, so that we can broadcast it to the four corners of the Earth’.


     
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    CommoChief in reply to tjv1156. | May 7, 2025 at 1:45 pm

    Prediction time. Here’s mine; the Trump Tariffs will lead to new trade order and security order. The USA will retain a much lower level of general tariffs for revenue purposes (5%-10%) and a few smaller targeted tariffs to boost particular domestic industries. Shipbuilding in particular. The result of which reshore/friend shore critical and general manufacturing and create good paying middle-class jobs revitalizing the middle.class. Opponents of.this some just fearful that the era that protected them is ending and some.who hate the USA will carp at every turn as the globalist paradigm they profit from is overturned and replaced.

    Now let’s hear your prediction.


     
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    henrybowman in reply to tjv1156. | May 7, 2025 at 2:59 pm

    “So embarrassing we have this senile,abject moron running US trae policy.”
    Try to keep up. Trump beat him.


 
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tjv1156 | May 8, 2025 at 7:13 am

Almost every reputable conservative economist agrees with me that Trump is a moron. Here’s another brutal takedown of the senile old blob.

https://reason.com/2025/05/07/the-trouble-with-donald-trumps-department-store-analogy/


The most obvious objection is, of course, that the country is not a department store. Thinking of America in those terms is collectivist, even socialist. The president is not the CEO. American workers are not his employees. He doesn’t get to decide the fair price for transactions between individuals, no matter if those people are both residing in the country or if one of them lives abroad.
“What Trump doesn’t seem to understand, at a very fundamental level, is that a successful department store must buy and sell things. No one gets rich in a capitalist system by hoarding what they have and price gouging customers. That’s the sort of thinking you’d expect from a college student in a Che Guevara T-shirt, not a Republican president who is supposedly a whiz at making money.

America is not a department store—and that’s a good thing, because if it was, the shopkeeper would be driving it toward bankruptcy.”


 
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tjv1156 | May 8, 2025 at 7:16 am

Another conservative weighs in in on the senile old blob’s tariffs.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/capitolism/trump-tariffs-trade-strategy-congress-executive-branch-2/

a commenter nails it.
It’s long been obvious that Trump is the Emperor wearing no clothes: he describes them as the greatest, the best, the most brilliant! His followers want to believe him, so they do, developing complicated and convoluted theories for why they can’t see them even though they plainly must be there. Unlike the fairy tale, though, pointing out that the emperor is naked doesn’t shock his followers into realizing what happened. They simply form a mob to chase down the heretic and beat them into submission.

Occam’s Razor applied for Trump tells us that he’s simply a fairly stupid man, because he’s intellectually lazy, ignorant, and won’t change his mind. I’ve been reading HR McMaster’s memoir of his time in the White House, “At War With Ourselves”. He’s continually striving to defend what the Trump administration was actually trying to do, but it’s also obvious he’s painfully aware that Trump isn’t up to the job. In fact, Trump was constantly undermining himself and all the people who were trying to help him. This has been a relatively gentle memoir; other former members of the Trump administration have been scathing. The problem is that most people continue to hold onto Trump’s self promotion as some sort of heroic figure, often because they just can’t bring themselves to believe that he could actually be so stupid. If they accept that fact, suddenly everything snaps into focus.

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