Noem: DHS, Secret Service Investigating Comey’s ‘8647’ Post
“86” is slang to get rid of or murder someone.
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem announced on X that her department and the Secret Service will investigate former FBI Director James Comey over a post on Instagram.
Disgraced former FBI Director James Comey just called for the assassination of @POTUS Trump.
DHS and Secret Service is investigating this threat and will respond appropriately.
— Secretary Kristi Noem (@Sec_Noem) May 15, 2025
We are aware of the recent social media post by former FBI Director James Comey, directed at President Trump. We are in communication with the Secret Service and Director Curran. Primary jurisdiction is with SS on these matters and we, the FBI, will provide all necessary support.
— FBI Director Kash Patel (@FBIDirectorKash) May 15, 2025
Comey posted a photo of “8647” made out of shells.
“86” is slang for to kill or get rid of.
Just James Comey causally calling for my dad to be murdered.
This is who the Dem-Media worships. Demented!!!! pic.twitter.com/4LUK6crHAT
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) May 15, 2025
Karol Markowicz wrote about the “86” slang at The New York Post last month:
In Holland, Mich., Redmond, Ore., and elsewhere, grinning marchers wore shirts and carried placards emblazoned with the number “8647,” pairing the old slang term for murder with a 47 for Trump.
One 8647 protester stood right alongside Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison in Minneapolis.
“Hands off or heads off,” read the message on a life-size guillotine paraded about in Denver.
Comey claimed he saw the shells and had no idea of the deeper meaning of the message.
The former director of the FBI is either an absolute moron or he’s just lying. Either way he is a piece of garbage. https://t.co/NBMnoBQhVv
— Chris Barron 🇺🇸 (@ChrisRBarron) May 15, 2025
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Arrest him and put him jail. No more investigations, no more empty threats.
For what? Even if he were calling for Trump’s assassination, which he wasn’t, that would still be protected speech. This is America; if we wish someone were dead we’re allowed to say so, and the government can’t touch us for it. A government employee can’t even be fired for advocating the president’s murder.
I think the crowded theater doctrine could apply.
It’s not just words. It’s words coming from someone who was recently the nation’s top cop, and someone who knows there are lots of unhinged people out there. Two of whom have already tried.
It’s akin to, who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?
There is no “crowded theater doctrine”. In fact citing the term “crowded theater” in a discussion of the first amendment almost automatically means you lose. The term comes from a rejected opinion that has no more place in US jurisprudence than Plessey.
A truly horrible opinion, finding that the US could throw someone in prison merely for speaking against the draft. If you think that’s unconstitutional then you cannot support this opinion, and thankfully the Supreme Court has since rejected it.
Advocating anything is the very core of protected speech.
18 U.S.C. § 871, which is broad enough to apply: “Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance… any communication containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President… shall be fined under this title or imprisoned.”
“I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message,” the subsequent post from Comey said. “I didn’t realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me but I oppose violence of any kind so I took the post down.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-fbi-chief-comeys-86-47-social-media-post-condemned-white-house-attempt-put-hit-president
Comey admits it means violence.
One must conclude that you don’t really bother to think about these things before you post them. Advocating the assassination of the President is a crime and there have been plenty of arrests made for this over the years. You might try a service called “Google” before you reflexively try to turn everything into a First Amendment issue, and save yourself embarrassment.
Ah …Wikipedia saves you…. “86” has every meaning you can embrace but totally (presently) avoids the elimination of a foe. Note…. every other connotation but that one. I wonder how recently Wiki was updated? It’s the classic gray zone that allows …. oh yes… the dog whistle the Dems always hear. The great wiggle room… wink wink nod. So how does one “86” a sitting president Mil my man? Comey has gotten away with a lot …. and this is poor taste… much less than what he actually did.
Someone on X captured this from Grok:
https://x.com/Manhattva/status/1923152335196352701/photo/1
I’m sure the editor of the Mirriam Webster online dictionary made some off-books revenue today.
How so? The dictionary page hasn’t changed in years.
Moonlighting at the Wikipedia site for Comey.
The word “kill” is used every day in all sorts of contexts. You can kill a tv show, you can kill a deer for food, you can kill an automobile engine, etc. When you combine it with the words, “let’s” and “all the Jews” or with “let’s” and “all the blacks,” that remains protected, does it?
He knew exactly the message conveyed by 8647. That’s why he pretended to have “found” it, to give himself plausible deniability. “Oh, look! Someone else is calling for Trump’s murder. Not me. Because I don’t really understand the message.” If you believe Comey didn’t mean to send that message, you’re a fool Milhouse. An intelligent person, but still a fool. Because you’re allowing yourself to be fooled by a known prevaricator.
He knew the message was “remove the president”. Not kill him.
But even if he had meant kill him, it would still be protected speech.
For crying out loud, how is it possible that so many literate people, who are familiar with the constitution, don’t know this? There is nothing in the world that one may not advocate in the USA. Slavery. The Holocaust. The violent overthrow of the USA. It doesn’t matter; mere advocacy is always protected, and any law Congress purports to pass against it is automatically void.
I didn’t say it was in any way actionable. And you’re being naïve if you belief that 1.) Comey “found” this message; and 2.) that he promoted it without understanding what it means or didn’t intend it to mean “kill 47.”
“There is nothing in the world that one may not advocate in the USA. Slavery. The Holocaust. The violent overthrow of the USA.”
Ivermectin.
I didn’t say he found it.
And if you didn’t say it was actionable, about a dozen people here have not only said it but insist on it, and refuse to be corrected.
And no, he did not intend it to mean “kill”. That’s just ridiculous and dishonest. If he meant “kill”, then when Trump said to “find” 11,000 votes he meant “fabricate”. Which you and I both agree he didn’t. You can’t apply different standards to the two cases.
How do you know what he knew? Were you inside his head? He is a deceptive fabribricator and likely committed crimes when he tried to get Trump thrown from office. Somehow, you believe him. Unsurprising.
Yes, one may say ivermectin. One could even say it if it didn’t work.
BS millhouse
Karol Markowitz wrote last month:
In Holland, Mich., Redmond, Ore., and elsewhere, grinning marchers wore shirts and carried placards emblazoned with the number “8647,” pairing the old slang term for murder with a 47 for Trump.
One 8647 protester stood right alongside Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison in Minneapolis.
“Hands off or heads off,” read the message on a life-size guillotine paraded about in Denver.
“And if you didn’t say it was actionable, about a dozen people here have not only said it but insist on it, and refuse to be corrected.”
I should be ethically concerned that someone in the fedguv should drag Comey through the courts and prisons because “86” means “kill,” after someone else in the fedguv dragged Trump through the system because “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard” means “go commit an insurrection?”
Nope, I’m not that cuck. Give me a broomhandle, and I’ll volunteer for his intake search,
“Yes, one may say ivermectin. One could even say it if it didn’t work.”
WSJ: Covid Censorship Proved to Be Deadly — Government and social-media companies colluded to stifle dissenters who turned out to be right.
If your speech is censored by the government, have you really said anything?
The picture went over my head until I read the story. I remember 86 as being slang to throw something out or get rid of something not murder but I guess like lots of slang today it’s meaning has changed? I’m in my 60’s so maybe Comey thought it meant what I thought. Get rid of Trump not necessarily by assassination but you are responsible for your words and posts online and he should have known better
You’re nuts. You do realize that a Georgia man recently made a similar direct death threat against Tulsi Gabbert a month or so ago and he is in prison tonight. The Feds need to take these threats seriously because what if Comey is behind the next attempt. What if he’s sending a code to who ever the Democrats enlisted, that now is the time?
The same way Comey used the FISA Courts, the Russian Dossier, setting up Flynn. The question is: Is Comey enlisting a hit on The President? Everything the Democrats do is choreographed.
Why did Comey do this? I bet he thinks he’s going to be able to laugh this off and still has people under Kash Patel who are going to brush this off. We shall see, but if you recently had two assassination attempts made against your life, what would you do? Advocate for the assassin’s free speech and due process rights?
Bullshit. You are referring to a person who actually did threaten to kill Gabbard and her family. He didn’t advocate her murder, let alone merely her removal from office, he literally threatened to kill them all. Or at least that’s what he’s charged with. Maybe he can argue at trial that it wasn’t a threat, and get off. But the charge is that it was a literal and credible threat. A “true threat”, to use the legal term. That is not the case here, where there isn’t any threat at all.
You are totally off your rocker
If fear for his own safety makes the president ignore the bill of rights then he is unfit for office. The constitution is more important than anyone’s safety; otherwise we should scrap it altogether.
Lincoln was not available for comment .. Bush II and others have violated the Constitution to “save it”…. which is exactly what happens as you note. In areas I commend you on taking things literally but sometimes too concrete as we have an inkling of what Comey really meant… brushing up against the border of legality and illegality. He knows what he can get away with… just as you should know what he can do.
I agree. However, he played some pretty dirty baseball against Trump and I suspect he is not well -loved by the current administration… so I am not surprised that they are taking any and every opportunity to smack him upside the head. Nice? Fair? Hell no. Fun and well- deserved? Hell yes. And you can save the reproach that we should act bettercthan our opponents. We’re waaaay past that.
How does that square with this?
“(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, *** or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat *** against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.”
That seems at odds with what you just said
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
First of all, that is talking only about threats. There was no threat here. “Kill the president” is not a threat, it’s advocacy.
Second, if the statute were any broader than it is, it would automatically be invalid. Congress cannot make a law banning advocacy. Of anything. It lacks the authority. The only reason that statute is valid is because it doesn’t say what you would like it to say. It’s valid only because it’s confined to what the law calls “true threats”. “Kill Trump” is not a threat at all. “I will kill Trump” can be a threat, but only if a reasonable person would seriously think that the speaker has both the intent and the means to carry it out. If a reasonable person would not think it was meant seriously, or would think it was meant seriously but that the speaker can’t actually do it, then even that is not a threat.
I could be argued that Comey conspired to generate a public threat to the President.
Someone ask Comey what exactly was so “cool” about how the ocean washed those seashells onto the shore in the shape of 86 47.
Don’t bother asking him, he’d just lie…again.
If anyone were to attack President Trump and claimed it was because Comey posted that picture and understood it to mean ‘kill’ would Comey be in danger on a conspiracy charge, ala Charles Manson?
Incitement is not protected speech. I’m surprised a constitutional scholar as knowledgable as you isn’t aware of this, Justice Milhouse 🤷♂️
Are you stupid? You can’t call for someone to be murdered like this.
Yes he is
Outhouse spent another evening making excuses for the left again. Well, stop the world. I want to get off.
86 Milhouse! 86 Milhouse!! 86 Milhouse!!!
Sorry, you can’t do anything about it. 1st Amendment protected speech, right?
86 Milhouse! 86 Milhouse!! 86 Milhouse!!!
18 U.S.C. § 871, which is broad enough to apply: “Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance… any communication containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President… shall be fined under this title or imprisoned.”
Utterly wrong. Threats of violence to the president are not protected by the First Amendment. Milhouse, you are deliberately obtuse and wrong.
Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi issued a statement on James Comey’s assassination threat against President Trump.
https://x.com/SecretSvcSpox/status/1923175809189056526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
There was no threat, and this statement doesn’t say anything.
Wishful thinking! If Bondi were even slightly serious she would’ve already raided Comey and seized his phone, computers, etc…..Comey is as safe as those in Epstein’s videos
In the hospitality industry, 86 is used to indicate that an item is no longer available, traditionally from a food or drinks establishment, or referring to a person or people who are not welcome on the premises. Its etymology is unknown, but the term seems to have been coined in the 1920s or 1930s.
If you’re going to rip a quote, then post a link, JR.
And James Comey works in the hospitality industry?
Typo. It’s actually the hostility industry.
I don’t think even Stalin or Mao would try to jail someone for arranging sea shells as numbers on a beach.
There’s no attempt to jail him here… it’s merely a gentle slap across the face because the administration has the opportunity.
I have a friend who used to be a policeman who taught me how they dealt with habitual troublemakers
“Maybe we can’t put him in jail but we can sure take him for a ride downtown.”
Then you don’t know Stalin or Mao. They’d jail and execute innocent people just to keep everyone in line and afraid.
Then you are a fool. Read The Gulag Archipelago. Pretending Trump is worse than those tyrants shows how bad the TDS has its grips on your mind and heart. PITIFUL!
Stalin once famously had the first person to stop applauding him arrested and sentence to jail. As usual you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
If Trump did this about Biden people would just say it was a joke or that he was “trolling”. Nothing more.
If Trump did this about Biden, he would be prosecuted, impeached, court martialed, shot, and sent to the Russian front.
You would wet your pants.
If Trump did this about Biden YOU would be here demanding his arrest. So shut the hell up.
I’m actually thankful for Comey. He’s the gift that keeps on giving.
He and Wray together permanently crushed the myth that of the ‘fine men and women of the FBI’ being ‘non-partisan professionals’.
Hes made it his mission to demonstrate that Trump’s biggest mistake was not firing him the second he could.
So, is it now OK to lay out 86 seashells for Comey? Whatever that means.
Democrats are scum, always have been. The only change is that they are no longer trying to hide the fact.
And Comey claiming he didn’t know what “8647” stands for doesn’t pass the laugh test.
Bullshit. He knew what it means, everyone knows what 86 means, and it doesn’t mean murder. It means to get rid of something. To remove an item from the menu, or to evict a customer. It can mean to fire an employee, or to evict a tenant. There is no implication of violence.
He clearly meant to call for the president’s removal; he did not intend to call for his assassination (although he has a constitutional right to do even that).
He called for the Presidents killing. Let’s not fuck about with language Justice Millhouse. Even and intellectual lightweight such as yourself should be able to see the meaning of this as it’s quite literally right in front of you.
It most certainly can mean murder, it means to discontinue
To discontinue a living President
In this case, can means does
Then why did he delete it?
Milhouse is not an avid fan of film noir nor crime literature. Since Comey is steeped in crime…gee.. how many ways…. he knows the full spectrum of what it means.
Ironic, but get ready for the “we can’t prove intent” / “no reasonable jury” excuse for not actually pressing any sort of serious charges against Comey. I feel like this is just theatre. Wake me up when a democrat actually faces real consequences for something that would put a non-leftist in jail for a long time.
“no DC jury”
There’s no possible charge. Even if he had intended to advocate murder, that would be his right. But in fact there’s not even any implication of murder, so the outrage is without foundation. He may as well have written “Dump Trump”.
It will be fun watching the administration unleash a whole lot of whoop-ass lawfare against Mr. Comey.
He may have written “Dump Trump,” but he didn’t. Are you the only person here who thinks Comey “found” this message? Or that he doesn’t understand what it means (and, more importantly, agrees with it)?
Please Milhouse. Dems use the term “we will fight” all the time. When a conservative says “fight,” libs jump down his throat. “How dare you threaten violence.” Here’s a plain call for violence against the POTUS. Nobody says “86” when they mean “impeach” or “get rid of.” “86” is shorthand for “terminate with extreme prejudice.” The latter is too lengthy to spell out in seashells.
That is just not true. To 86 a customer means to refuse him service, not to kill him. And to 86 the meatloaf simply means to remove it temporarily from the menu, because we’re out. “86 47” simply means “Dump Trump”.
But even if it had meant “kill him”, it would still be protected speech.
What is wrong with you, Milhouse? Trump isn’t on a goddamn menu and he’s not in a restaurant. He’s the POTUS and he’s been targeted at least twice by assassins. Comey is the former director of the FBfuckingI and knows how criminals use euphemisms and indirect language in an attempt to create plausible deniability concerning the violence their minions perpetrate. You’re just being obtuse. And I still haven’t advocated that it’s actionable. Why do you insist on mentioning that in your replies to my posts?
Riiiiiight. That’s clearly what Comey meant. He wants to deny Trump service. He means that they’re out of… what in the hell are you even claiming? TRUMP IS NEITHER A CUSTOMER NOR A FOOD ITEM.
I’m willing to entertain the idea that Comey didn’t know what “86” really meant. Fine. But stop spinning this as him not wanting to get rid of Trump. And yes, I’m very sure that Comey (and a majority of Democrats) wouldn’t be perfectly happy if Trump got 86ed in the real meaning of the word, the one you’re avoiding.
You’re making a fundamental assumption that many novice language students make, and that’s “if X means blah blah blah in one particular instance, then that’s what X means in all other cases.”
C’mon, Mr. Pedant – you know better than that. Words can have different meanings in different contexts, and for you to sit there and claim that because 86 means “get rid of” in some instances therefore means that’s what Comey meant is laughable.
Why do you act like you know everything, then present it in black and white terms, just like what people do that are pretenders?
Milhouse is a Democrat who defends the indefensible.
Milhouse’s entire schtick is to spend hours here obsessively going through every comment and arguing why it’s wrong. If you say that Gary has green eyes he’ll argue that no, Gary’s eyes are in fact more gray-green and that you’re utterly wrong. Sometimes he’s correct, sometimes he’s just being an ass for the sake of being an ass. He reminds me of some autistic people I’ve known who fixate on trivia and then argue until you’re just sick of it.
Give up , you’re droning on and on, no one is buying your BS.
Fuzzy doesn’t live here anymore…
ya know your right I haven’t seen fuzzy in a long time now
just didn’t notice it … what happened … as for Mulhouse
I just ignore it ….
He may as well have written “Dump Trump”.
Then why didn’t he? I think he meant to kill, that’s my personal opinion. He wrote his thoughts in a way that he figured were not a direct and credible threat; he believed that he would not be arrested.
What about his treatments to the J6ers? They were jailed, denied attorneys, put in isolation, held in minuscule cells, denied communication with family members, and no golf courses.
They were charged (mostly falsely) with actual crimes. There’s no actual crime to charge him with.
It doesn’t get more insurrectiony than publicly calling for the assassination of a sitting president, even in infantile code.
Comey is an arrogant and obnoxious fool — a perfect representation of the vile D.C. Swamp Dhimmi-crat apparatchik class.
Um, yes, it does. Calling for the president’s assassination (not that he did so) is completely legal, and can’t be made illegal. It’s certainly not insurrection.
18 USC s 373
“Professor” Milhouse, as pedantic as ever. Always interpreting things with the stiff, inflexible literal formalism of a German soldier, so that you can “educate” the rest of us.
I’m not speaking to statutory formalities and legal niceties — that should have been obvious to you, and, would have been, if you weren’t so insufferably eager to always show off your self-perceived sagacity.
I’m speaking to the Dhimmi-crats’ penchant for characterizing any expression of political dissent as alleged “insurrection,” which they certainly would do if a conservative expressed a desire to see a Dhimmi-crat president assassinated.
Some celebrity posted this a while back. Not the exact picture.
I looked up “86” on Wikipedia. The entry claims that one possible origin of the term comes from a Speakeasy in New York City at 86 Bedford Street which is located in Greenwich Village. During Prohibition days the police would warn of a raid by calling the bartender and telling him to “86” the customers. I used eat at Chumley’s Restaurant regularly. As I remember the door at 86 Bedford Street was the entrance, and one could exit using a nondescript back door which led to a tunnel. I think the Wikipedia article might have main and secret escape reversed. The article claims to door at 86 Bedford Street was not marked. Well not quite when I went there. “Chumley” was painted in black letters on a black door. Almost invisible unless one looked at he right angle. Good restaurant and a fun place with lots of history.
So what’s going to happen to James Comey? Probably nothing. I don’t trust Pam Bondi– Trump’s worst appointment. She seems to do nothing except go on TV. In my opinion, her involvement in the George Zimmerman case disqualifies her. Helping frame an innocent man is unforgivable. The MAGA base is gradually learning her true colors. Even if Comey got indicted, the judge would work against the prosecutor as most of the judiciary hates Trump as we well know from their massive overreach into the executive branch to block Trump at every turn.
I think the US is too corrupt at this point to fix.
I was not a fan of Bondi’s appointment, but so far she has performed very well. We should suspend judgment on her until we’ve observed her for a while longer, but if she continues as she has been she will have more than justified her appointment.
Of course you would approve of her
Laughable
eighty-six, verb
transitive verb
1 informal
2 informal
Did you know?
If you work in a restaurant or bar, you might eighty-six (or “eliminate”) a menu item when you run out of it, or you might eighty-six (or “cut off”) a customer who should no longer be served. Eighty-six is still used in this specific context, but it has also entered the general language. These days, you don’t have to be a worker in a restaurant or bar to eighty-six something—you just have to have something to get rid of or discard. There are many popular but unsubstantiated theories about the origin of eighty-six. The explanation judged most probable according to Merriam-Webster’s research is that the word was created as a rhyming slang word for nix, which means “to veto” or “to reject.”
It’s missing the only definition of the term as it is understood by everyone here? And you think this hasn’t already been scrubbed?
See my link to Grok’s definition, above.
Everyone in the English-speaking world understands the term, and it means exactly what it says in the dictionary. NO ONE HERE genuinely believes that it means “kill”. Everyone who claims to believe this is lying, for no other reason than to score a rhetorical point against a political enemy.
Then explain the definition provided by Grok.
Why should I? Who the hell is Grok?
I have long understood it to mean ‘kill’; as in kill the order or when in context of an individual to kill them. There’s a bunch of slang words for murder and I suppose some are used more in certain regions or cultures. ’86’ is one just like erase, off, terminate, liquidate, knock off, bump off, whack, hit, snuff, exterminate, waste, smoke, finish, take care of, put down, put away. Yellowstone TV show introduced a new one ‘take to the train station’.
In sum pretty much any term that also means to end something or that something has reached the end of utility can/has been used as slang or euphemism for murder.
Calm down, Big Boy,…Nothing is gonna happen to Comey
I hear it in the city streets of Syracuse, NY in rap music and the gang stuff going on here. They lose a member and they post on social media they were 86’ed by the rival gangs. It is no secret it has evolved to mean killed!
No, it hasn’t been scrubbed! It was last changed sometime between Apr-9-2021 and Oct-22-2021.
Making such a claim just makes you look paranoid.
Nor did any earlier versions of the page refer to violence.
Here’s what it looked like on Nov-3-2012. Short and sweet.
It should be easy enough to go to archive.org and look up what Wikipedia’s definition of 86 was last week. I’m curious myself, but I only have my phone available at the moment and that’s a massive undertaking on a tiny screen.
Henry, did you not see the comment just above yours?
Nope. Sometimes fetched pages sit in tabs for hours before I can get back to them. That’s just the way things roll.
Holy Wall Of Text, Batman!
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought-crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten. . . . The process will still be continuing long after you and I are dead. Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of consciousness always a little smaller. Even now, of course, there’s no reason or excuse for committing thought-crime. It’s merely a question of self-discipline, reality-control. But in the end there won’t be any need even for that. . . . Has it ever occurred to you, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?”
― George Orwell
As I wrote above… the ONE CLASSIC definition is to rub one out…. not rub as in massage. It’s missing and in our electronic word… I say a scrubbed term.
He was FBI head he knows he violated Title 18 USC 871. Hold him to the highest standards and let him explain it to a judge.
No, he didn’t. He didn’t threaten anything. He advocated the president’s removal, which isn’t and can’t be illegal. Even advocating the president’s assassination isn’t and can’t be illegal.
Would someone be convicted for writing a poem advocating for the assassination of the first Black president and posting it on a white supremacist website?
No, no one would be convicted for that. Anyone claiming to have been convicted for that is lying.
Now if the poem was seriously threatening an assassination, that would be different. But it would have to fit the narrow definition of a “true threat”.
Someone was convicted of that.
https://www.actionnews5.com/story/12014686/ky-man-charged-threatening-obama-with-web-poem
Oh,, I see the link is bad now. I have to use my phone since my internet is out. The man received 33 months. Details from the article include that the Secret Service did not say why it took more than 15 months to arrest him and no weapon was linked to Johnny Logan Spencer, Jr.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/man-gets-33-months-for-threatening-obama-in-poem/
And yet, if one of us had done it in February of 2020, you can bet it suddenly would’ve been illegal.
No, it would not. Not even then. They did many wrong things at that time, but they didn’t lock anyone up for mere advocacy. They had the grace (or whatever the correct word is) to make up actual offenses to charge them with.
And (not to rub it in), you can see from the comments directly above, that you are flat wrong about that. “Legal” or not, the fedguv would have convicted us regardless.
See Rankin v McPherson. A probationary employee in a government office, who could be fired for any reason or for no reason at all, still can’t be fired for exercising her constitutional right to freedom of expression, in this case expressing a wish for the president’s assassination.
So I can say i hope somebody finds and hideously murders Milhouse and no problemo? Hypothetically of course… You don’t have millions of people, some very unhinged, who hate you based on Mainstream Media slanders so it’s still not the same.
Yes, of course you can say that. It would make you a horrible person, but you can’t be arrested for it, you can’t be sued for it, and if you work for the government you can’t even be fired for it. Even if something actually were to happen to me. That’s the plain and firmly-established law that everyone who knows anything about the first amendment knows. I’m shocked that so few people seem to know it.
The man wrote something and did zero to act on it but he went to jail for it. Where were you when he needed a defense team???
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/man-gets-33-months-for-threatening-obama-in-poem/
Is Milhouse saying that if posters o this board advocate and call for an 86-Millhouse, iy not illegal and a constitutional right? /sarc
Of course it wouldn’t be illegal. How could you possibly even imagine it would be? How can someone so ignorant of the first amendment presume to discuss it?
Milhouse defenders on this site would have any comment removed instantly if it denigrates the chosen one.
Tulsi Gabbard said Comey must be held accountable for his call to assassinate President Trump.
“James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this,” Tulsi Gabbard told Jesse Watters.
I’m very concerned for the president’s life,” Tulsi said. “We’ve already seen assassination attempts. I’m very concerned for his life.”
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1923182258522853564
Well, Gabbard is betraying her oath to uphold the constitution. She’s advocating that the government violate the constitution. Which she’s entitled to do, because violating an oath is not a crime, and all advocacy is protected speech. But that is what she’s doing.
Perhaps Gabbard merely meant that Comey “should be held accountable” in the public square.
She’s actually advocating that no one should serve Comey any more liquor.
Too much, Milhouse. Your mask is completely off in this comment.
Comey might as well wear a sandwich board declaring: “I’m a pathetic, sniveling c*nt with terminal TDS”
Lol, what a pu*sy
His wife will make him wear it for “inviting” the Secret Service to make a house call.
When interviewed, if Comey doesn’t admit that he constructed the mosaic, his wife will rat him out.
Top men ran Eff Bee Eye, or idiots it seems.
What is Comey’s life experience: working in a restaurant or prosecuting members of organized crime?
It’s not clear what your point is, since almost any dictionary that discusses the term and gives examples shows it is used equally in both professions.
Comey wiuld use lingo related to his experience.
Ah, I understand your point now.
It makes no difference. “Eighty-six” does not imply violence.
Perhaps not in your experience and I don’t doubt your sincerity in making that point. However, I have heard it used this way for decades as one of many euphemisms for murder. Every region of the Nation and the various cultures/subcultures have their own slang, colloquial phrases/words, dialect and no one has a complete knowledge of them all. For instance until it became more popularized the Southern phrase ‘bless your heart’ escaped notice from most outside the South b/c it sounded ‘nice’ when it is really a harsh put down skin to ‘go eff yourself’. My Grandfather didn’t curse. He used substitute words phrases to mean the same things in the same context for.example when he wanted to express ‘that’s a load of BS you lying sack of s01T’ he said ‘look out now’.
IMO the issue/reason for the volume of pushback is you telling others that their own linguistic experiences didn’t occur, that idioms they understand are to be discounted, telling them they are lying or implying they are operating in bad faith. You have zero evidence to make such a broad claim. It comes across as if you believe that disagreement with you makes them a bad person.
Do you go out of your way to make stupid statements?
Why did Commie think those seashells were “cool”?
Man, I would like to lock you in a room for 24 hours and play you a steady program of gangsta rap.
Maybe start with the classics from NWA and then move to my all time fave the Wu-Tang Clan?
The 8647 went over my head. I doubt I’d take the time to post a picture of it or even look it up online. It’s pretty obvious to me that either Comey did it much like Clinton and the rocks on the beach in France or he saw it, knew what it meant and agreed. If not he would have put it up and asked what it was.
Open your eyes…..they are literally announcing it ……
“In Holland, Mich., Redmond, Ore., and elsewhere, grinning marchers wore shirts and carried placards emblazoned with the number “8647,” pairing the old slang term for murder with a 47 for Trump.
One 8647 protester stood right alongside Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison in Minneapolis.
“Hands off or heads off,” read the message on a life-size guillotine paraded about in Denver.”
https://nypost.com/2025/04/08/opinion/democrats-lit-the-assassination-culture-fuse-now-their-silence-equals-violence/
You cannot get more on point here.
You know its funny. I saw “92 Comments” and thought, “Well, that’s just a long string of Milhouse being akshually guy” …
… and sure enough a comment thread I don’t need to read.
Mob slang: 8 miles out and 6 feet under.
It is somewhat ironic that, to defend this, the left is 86ing the meaning of 86.
Soon all our dictionaries will be slim pamphlets that contain a single word
–.’OBEY’
What? You don’t have the sunglasses yet? It’s all over the place….find Roddy Piper for your pair.
nothing done illegally by him
give him the finger
This whole episode is silly and Comey is an idiot but we all knew that. Some of the discussion has been interesting but I wish I knew who was a lawyer and who isn’t, I suspect most commenting aren’t lawyers.
Two things. Comey is worse than an idiot. He’s culpable and should be held accounatble for his actions, which were and are intentional.
Second, beware of the lawyers and pontifications because many are no more credible than Joe Blow..
I’d rather listen to opinions of lawyers about nuanced aspects of the law as opposed to those people who only play lawyers on TV or legal insurrections.
As for Comey, whether he broke the law or not we’ll find out if he is arrested and tried,
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already. The most despicable sub human to ever hold office.KArma is falling down on the job.
IMHO they should throughly investigate Comie every aspect of his life, and if they find where he has broken the law, charge him and prosecute him, turn the IRS on him for the last 5 years.. this is all legal right Milhouse, kindda like they did with Trump. Turn his life upside down.
I usually read Milhouse’s first statement and after that I ignore him. he gets tiresome.
I’m sure if they looked hard enough, they could find a document where Comey married his father.
yeah I could see where he would be the b*tch ….
Comey continues to be a lousy liar! His sad explanation about discovering the shells and about posting the photo … if he is going to write crime fiction, he needs to improve his plots.
The generally accepted meaning of being 86ed is to kick so someone out. This is much ado about nothing. There are plenty of actual issues to concentrate on and this just makes people look like a bunch of hysterical ninnies.
Wow he is an attention seeking loser, who clearly hasn’t moved on with his life since Trump last term. He needed back into the Trump hating media machine, probably trying to get a gig on the palestinian news network or MS nobody watches me again. Well he got the attention he was so craving, just not sure he’ll get as much hysterical sympathy as last time, when the media told us to feel oh so sad about his poor little severance package and pension. Boo hoo! The media didn’t care when Gina Raimondo destroyed my father’s retirement as a teacher in RI, she got a plumb job in the Biden administration as her reward. The NY times declared she was “skillful and charasmatic.” Yup she’s great at screwing fire fighters, police and teachers out of their pensions. But poor lil’ Comey, his little bitty pension is like so wicked unfair.