Trump Admin Asks Supreme Court to Vacate Orders Stopping Deportations
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Trump Admin Asks Supreme Court to Vacate Orders Stopping Deportations

Trump Admin Asks Supreme Court to Vacate Orders Stopping Deportations

Chief Justice John Roberts requested a response by 10 AM ET on April 1.

The Department of Justice asked the Supreme Court to vacate the orders stopping President Donald Trump from using the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) to deport Venezuelans to El Salvador.

“This case presents fundamental questions about who decides how to conduct sensitive national-security-related operations in this country—the President, through Article II, or the Judiciary, through TROs [temporary restraining orders],” wrote acting Solicitor General Sarah Harris.. “The Constitution supplies a clear answer: the President. The republic cannot afford a different choice.”

Chief Justice John Roberts requested a response by 10 AM ET on April 1.

On March 15, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg of the D.C. District Court paused the deportations to review the case’s merits.

Boasberg said he has “serious legal questions about Trump’s rationale for invoking the 1798 law — used only three times in American history — by labeling the criminal gang Tren de Aragua the equivalent of a foreign government.”

Harris listed many ways in which Trump’s administration will likely succeed on the merits, but one sticks out the most: “At a minimum, the district court could not grant nationwide relief.”

First of all, the respondents went to the wrong court with the wrong claim.

They used the Administrative Procedures Act (APA) when those subjected to the AEA can only receive “limited judicial review through habeas.” District Judge Henderson broke the tie with her concurrence, but “inexplicably ‘assume[d]‘ jurisdiction, then refused to decide whether respondents could bring APA claims.”

Yeah, wrong jurisdiction:

To begin, respondents brought the wrong claims to the wrong forum. The AEA buttresses the President’s Article II authorities over national security by expressly empowering him to remove alien enemies—a power that this Court has held is largely unreviewable. Ludecke v. Watkins, 335 U.S. 160, 165-166 (1948). The exception is for habeas claims challenging enemy-alien detention. The government agrees that a cause of action would be available to respondents. But because their “claims sound in habeas,” they must be brought where they are held, in Texas. App., infra, 78a (Walker, J., dissenting).

The respondents should have filed where they are held: Southern District of Texas.

Judge Walker of the district court said in his dissenting opinion that the case should be in Texas and “affirmatively interfered with an ongoing, partially overseas, national-security operation.”

Harris expands on the inability to grant nationwide relief later in the brief:

Even if the district court could review respondents’ APA claims, it lacked authority to grant relief to a nationwide class of members of a foreign terrorist organization. The court provisionally certified a class of “[a]ll noncitizens in U.S. custody who are subject to the” Proclamation “and its implementation.” App., infra, 148a. But that highly truncated class-certification determination was highly improper. The court certified a non-ascertainable class consisting of anyone in U.S. custody who might be subject to the Proclamation—based on allegations by putative class members who claim they do not belong to TdA and thus cannot possibly represent a class whose defining characteristic is being subject to a Proclamation directed at TdA members. By awarding relief to an amorphous nationwide class, the court effectively circumvented equitable limitations on universal relief in a sensitive national-security context. If nothing else, this Court should vacate the district court’s order granting classwide relief and limit any surviving order to the named plaintiffs only.

“The order here has effectively blocked the Executive from implementing the Proclamation against anyone currently in U.S. custody, throughout the entire Nation—and did so on the very day the Proclamation was published,” argued Harris. “As the government has explained elsewhere, universal injunctions that extend to non-parties exceed ‘the power of Article III courts,’ conflict with ‘longstanding limits on equitable relief,’ and impose a severe ‘toll on the federal court system.'”

Harris claimed the universal injunction in the case “is all the more troubling here because its aim is to hamstring the President in responding to a significant national security threat—an impermissible intrusion on the President’s Article II powers.”

Harris pointed out that the court “certified a class without conducting the ‘rigorous analysis’ that Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23 demands.” Harris wrote:

The court offered only the conclusory statement that “class certification is warranted under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23(a) and 23(b)(2).” Ibid. The court never explained why the Rule 23(a) factors were satisfied, let alone in writing. See ibid. Nor did the court satisfy other procedural requirements of Rule 23, such as the requirement to define “the class claims, issues, or defenses,” the requirement to “appoint class counsel under Rule 23(g),” or the requirement to “direct appropriate notice to the class.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 23(c)(1)(B), (2).

Rule 23(a) states:

(a) Prerequisites. One or more members of a class may sue or be sued as representative parties on behalf of all members only if:

(1) the class is so numerous that joinder of all members is impracticable;

(2) there are questions of law or fact common to the class;

(3) the claims or defenses of the representative parties are typical of the claims or defenses of the class; and

(4) the representative parties will fairly and adequately protect the interests of the class.

Rule 23(b)(2) states:

(b) Types of Class Actions. A class action may be maintained if Rule 23(a) is satisfied and if:

(2) the party opposing the class has acted or refused to act on grounds that apply generally to the class, so that final injunctive relief or corresponding declaratory relief is appropriate respecting the class as a whole; or

One argument against using 23(a) is “too much variation” in the class’s definition to satisfy the requirements:

Individuals who claim they are not TdA members may be more interested in challenging the procedures used to designate them as such, whereas individuals who are TdA members might be more interested in challenging the President’s authority under the Alien Enemies Act. See Amchem, 521 U.S. at 626 (plaintiffs suffering illness from exposure to defendant’s products could not adequately represent plaintiffs only at risk of future illness). The class as defined also includes aliens already subject to detention and removal under other authorities, such as the INA [Immigration and Nationality Act]. Cf. App., infra, 175a. Such aliens cannot claim to have suffered the same type of injury (if any) as aliens who are removable solely by virtue of the Proclamation.

Harris reminds SCOTUS that previous decisions of the Court ruled that “Rule 23(b)(2) ‘does not authorize class certification when each individual class member would be entitled to a different injunction or declaratory judgment against the defendant.'”

I think the “wrong claim, wrong court” is the Trump administration’s strongest argument.

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SCOTUS will not, Roberts cannot stand the ground that Trump walks on and his little kiss up, ACB, will vote the way Roberts tells her to!


     
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    destroycommunism in reply to MarkS. | March 28, 2025 at 2:20 pm

    acb is a socialistchristiandemocrat

    so “loving” illegals is her way to answer wwjd


     
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    AbrahamFroman in reply to MarkS. | March 28, 2025 at 2:58 pm

    Not a fan of Roberts and am becoming increasingly disillusioned with ACB. But, I think everyone might be surprised at how they come down in this specific case. Roberts and ACB are both sticklers for procedure, often reaching over the opportunity to decide a case on the merits when it’s more easily disposed on technical grounds. As Mary points out, there are two excellent opportunities to rid themselves of this case by citing its jurisdictional and procedural infirmities. I think they’ll do just that, forcing plaintiffs to seek relief in a district court in Texas or Lousiana.


       
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      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to AbrahamFroman. | March 28, 2025 at 5:15 pm

      Kicking the can down the road for more delays.


         
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        AbrahamFroman in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 28, 2025 at 5:58 pm

        I don’t think dismissing a case suffering from an infirmity as fundamental to our system of law as jurisdiction is, can properly be characterized as ‘kicking the can.’ Whatever decision Boasberg reached, irrespective of how wrongly decided it was, never should have even been offered because he plainly didn’t have the jurisdiction to hear the case. This isn’t even a close call. He ignored the black letter law (28 USC § 2241) as well as a century or more of jurisprudence in taking the case. SCOTUS shouldn’t ignore that.


 
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AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | March 28, 2025 at 1:54 pm

Continue to deport. What is any court going to do? Send the Army to bring them back?

It is high time that the Executive Branch execute its plenary powers and if the courts don’t like it, too f’in bad. What are they going to do, impeach the president?

Yeah, that was successful twice, wasn’t it?

And if any Republican votes for impeachment, they should be primaried.


     
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    Wisewerds in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 28, 2025 at 2:08 pm

    Have to respectfully disagree. Trump is riding high right now and polling shows the principal thing he could do to reverse that is openly defy the Courts, especially the Supreme Court.

    Especially where doing so is not essential. It would be better if the gang members could be promptly sent out of the country. But the important thing is they are locked up, and they are being locked up.

    Far better to keep calm and save the extreme reaction for the truly extreme situation, rather than set a precedent the next Democrat president won’t hesitate to follow.

    If the Supremes reject the President’s position in this case, there will be uproar and public backlash. Given how Roberts thinks, that might cause him to reconsider his position in future cases.


       
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      CommoChief in reply to Wisewerds. | March 28, 2025 at 2:57 pm

      I gotta disagree with you. Here the Admin has played nicely with the Judiciary and has not (yet) told them to pound sand. The Admin is has allowed this to stretch out from District to Circuit to SCOTUS. This despite all the problems with jurisdiction of this particular Judge and generally the proper venue is Immigration Courts for decisions re deportations not District CT.

      Beyond those jurisdictional issues this case is in essence about whether the President or the Judiciary (District Judge in particular) may direct Executive actions in both National Security and Foreign Policy where the President is at the apex of his power. If SCOTUS doesn’t stop this intrusive micromanaging by District CT which is IMO not only Unconstitutional but pathetically stupid then the Admin should defend the prerogatives and power of the Executive Branch in the face of the crisis the Judiciary invites by telling them NO. Then deport this guy.

      This is THE case to bring an end to the notion of Judicial supremacy. Refuse to defend these apex powers of Executive which Congress further buttressed with AEA and every activist District Judge will be giving commands to the Executive to implement or refrain from implementing policies.


       
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      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Wisewerds. | March 28, 2025 at 4:08 pm

      I respect your dissent.

      But when the court usurps power that does not belong to it, there comes a time when the Executive Branch has to forcefully take back its prerogatives. The court does not have the power it is taking, and needs to be negated.

      Otherwise, our country will forever be under the boot of activist judges on the left – because there will NEVER be a conservative judge to usurp power – and no Executive in the future will ever be given the chance to change it.

      It is now, it is today, and the action must be so powerful that no other judge will dare usurp the Executive again.

      Look at our current climate. Before, all conservative politicians were afraid to take on the media and the left. With Trump’s actions, the liberal press is being told to fuck off, people don’t care to be led around on a leash anymore, and we are not afraid to call out the Marxists.

      We will rise together or hang individually.


         
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        Mauiobserver in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 28, 2025 at 4:43 pm

        The ultimate law is the constitution not the Supreme Court or various judicial decisions. Hopefully the court will agree with the President that he does indeed have the powers designated to him by the constitution and his role as chief executive is not subject to oversight by some 600 District Judges.

        I would tend to agree that if the USSC does not stand up to the power mad leftist judges Trump has little choice but to go ahead with the deportations and let the judges pound sand.

        If it comes to that then Congress can and must restructure the Federal Courts. Congress created them and they can alter, limit or even abolish the worst offending Districts.

        This could probably be done through budget action, and a reconciliation budget almost certainly will be considered before the end of the summer to beat the fiscal year deadline. That bill could cut a lot of Federal spending and restructure depts. and even courts. It would only require a majority vote, so all the GOP needs to do is stay united in an effort to save out Republic.


           
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          AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Mauiobserver. | March 28, 2025 at 5:21 pm

          Two things you mention.

          1. The ultimate law is the constitution not the Supreme Court or various judicial decisions.

          So why does the Executive need the court’s consent?

          2. If it comes to that then Congress can and must restructure the Federal Courts. Congress created them and they can alter, limit or even abolish the worst offending Districts.

          There are too many squishes in the GOP. They will NEVER rein in the courts.

          So, back to number 1. The Constitution is the ultimate law, and the President does not have to ask anyone’s permission or gain their approval.


     
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    Ghostrider in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 28, 2025 at 9:57 pm

    That’s exactly right.


     
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    henrybowman in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 29, 2025 at 3:01 pm

    “And if any Republican votes for impeachment, they should be primaried.”
    Or, we could take a lesson from the Democrats, and send a number of concerned citizens to discuss it with them… just off their front lawn.


 
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destroycommunism | March 28, 2025 at 2:19 pm

potus commander in chief

some take that job seriously…and his name beith trump

fjb


 
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ztakddot | March 28, 2025 at 2:44 pm

I wonder what the founders would have thought of the activism of a lower judicial branch and the unwillingness of the supreme court to reign them in?
Also the unwillingness of a judicial branch to allow the executive to essentially do the job they were elected to perform.


     
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    TargaGTS in reply to ztakddot. | March 28, 2025 at 3:20 pm

    One of the oddities of Marbury v. Madison is that while the Court essentially created the principal of judicial review when they wrote that opinion, the opinion itself was actually a (kind of) restraint on the judiciary (as well as Congress). They held that the Judiciary Act of 1789, which expanded the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, was itself invalid because it usurped the supremacy of the US Constitution’s enumeration of the power of SCOTUS. It’s kind of a weird paradox.

    I suspect that most of the founders, even ones like Hamilton who were deeply invested in the independence of federal judiciary (Hamilton called it the ‘Least Dangerous’ branch of government), would recoil at the notion that a District Judge (essentially the same position Marbury had been appointed to) had the power to proscribe or disrupt the inherent Article II authority of the President. If the Supreme Court of 1803 believed Congress couldn’t usurp the Constitution (and that’s what the Court clearly believed), there is little chance they would have agreed that the lowest class of judge in the federal system could usurp the constitutional authority of POTUS.


 
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2smartforlibs | March 28, 2025 at 3:00 pm

When will a judge injecting themselves in this at least read Title 8.


 
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tjv1156 | March 28, 2025 at 3:59 pm

The eerie similarities to 1930’s Germany.
A demented , racist small-minded man convinced gullible people that Jews were less than human. This played to their own racist views.

Now we have a demented , racist, small minded man doing the same with Mexicans, Haitians, and Central americans.
Neither were very subtle about their racist views. The white Christian NAtionalists were very fine people…immigrants are poisoning our blood….Haitians are eating cast…It’s important we change the name of military back to their racist, traitor names,
THe difference is , supposedly, we have systems in place ( Congress, juidiciary ) to keep deranged people like Trump in check. It’s disgusting how his cult is so easily willing to turn dictator power over to the is soulless cretin.


     
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    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 4:11 pm

    Oh please. Small man, look in the mirror. I suggest that you drink a gallon of bleach to cure your COVID.


     
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    TargaGTS in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 4:23 pm

    1930s Germany saw the mass confiscation of firearms and the wholesale enslavement of Jews, two things that aren’t ever going to happen so long as Trump is president.


     
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    mailman in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 4:56 pm

    Somewhere a village is missing its idiot 😂😂


     
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    Hodge in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 5:36 pm

    tjv1156

    Just a few questions. Do believe in the concept of national borders? Does the country – any country- have the authority to control who enters its country? Do they have authority to remove those who are not citizens?

    Separately, does the wording of U.S. Constitution have a fixed meaning unchangeable without constitutional amendment otherwise only subject to arguments about interpretation of the original intention of the drafters?

    If the actions of an Executive are legal within the decided interpretation of the constitution -even if the outcome of those actions turn out to have a disproportionate adverse impact on a particular group- can he be stopped from those actions?


       
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      tjv1156 in reply to Hodge. | March 28, 2025 at 6:15 pm

      The first paragraph questions are too stupid to answer an irrelvant to the discussion.

      What is relevant is that Trump is abusing the Alien Enemies Act and abusing Executive power. Who else is going to put him in check but the judiciary?
      https://reason.com/2025/03/21/trumps-reading-of-the-alien-enemies-act-defies-the-usual-meaning-of-its-terms/

      No true Conservative should be comfortable with what this buffoon is doing.


         
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        thalesofmiletus in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 6:36 pm

        Concern Troll is VERY concerned!!!! 🤣🤣🤣


         
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        CommoChief in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 7:12 pm

        If the majority in the HoR believes that the President is misusing not just the inherent primacy of the Executive in matters of.National.Security and Foreign Policy but also the power Congress granted to the Executive in the AEA (confirmed repeatedly by Judiciary FWIW) then they can rein him in via an impeachment in the HoR and getting 67 votes in the Senate to remove him from office.

        The Judiciary, notwithstanding the conceit of some Judges and their apologists, is not comprised of ‘God’s elect’ empowered to dispense their decrees about policy questions nor to second guess the Executive Branch decisions in apex power areas of National Security and Foreign Policy. The hubris of those who cling to foolishly false notions of Judicial Supremacy is overdue for a visit from nemesis.

        Impeachment and removal is the remedy for a perceived abuse of power. Same for a President as for a Judge.


         
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        tlcomm2 in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 7:28 pm

        So how many million foreigners need to invade a country before it is an “invasion or predatory incursion”????

        How many apartment complexes and city blocks need to be completely taken over by armed combatants???

        Your ignorance of the Constitution and relevant case law is stunning


           
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          tjv1156 in reply to tlcomm2. | March 29, 2025 at 7:24 am

          From link I posted.
          “All of this seems like quite a stretch. Trump does not claim to be at war with Venezuela. Nor does he claim that the Venezuelan government has mounted an “invasion or predatory incursion against the territory of the United States.” And a criminal organization, even one that has corrupted or “infiltrated” a foreign government, is not a “hostile nation or government” as those terms are ordinarily understood.

          Nor does Trump’s understanding of “invasion or predatory incursion” make sense in the context of the AEA. “As the Supreme Court and past presidents have acknowledged, the Alien Enemies Act is a wartime authority enacted and implemented under the war power,” Katherine Yon Ebright, a lawyer at the Brennan Center for Justice who specializes in national security issues, explained last fall. “When the Fifth Congress passed the law and the Wilson administration defended it in court during World War I, they did so on the understanding that noncitizens with connections to a foreign belligerent could be ‘treated as prisoners of war’ under the ‘rules of war under the law of nations.’ In the Constitution and other late-1700s statutes, the term invasion is used literally, typically to refer to large-scale attacks. The term predatory incursion is also used literally in writings of that period to refer to slightly smaller attacks like the 1781 Raid on Richmond led by American defector Benedict Arnold.”


           
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          CommoChief in reply to tlcomm2. | March 29, 2025 at 10:25 am

          tjv,

          The AEA empowers the President under two circumstances:
          1. A declared War
          2. The President issues a proclamation that an an invasion is ongoing imminent.

          FWIW I think that gives the Executive too much discretion. Obviously the Founding generation didn’t b/c the AEA became law in 1798. So we all gotta suck it up and deal with with reality v how we.might like it to be.

          Congress delegated power to the President to act in the absence of a declared war. The same way the ‘war powers’ of the President function which is basically at his discretion aka ‘b/c he says so’. Heck Sec.3 of the AEA grants the President with power to issue a warrant for detention and removal of an alien directly to the US Marshal who the AEA then requires to comply with that Presidential Warrant equating it to a Judicial order/Warrant. Seems clear enough.

          If the current Congress doesn’t like the AEA they can amend it. If a Congressional majority believes the President has misused the AEA they can seek impeachment and to remove him from office. If the voters decide Congress is too timid they can vote in new more aggressive Rep and Senators who will push for impeachment/removal. That’s the check on the this (IMO far too expansive) delegation of power/authority to the Executive.

          What’s really the issue for the leftists is not the use of the power but which branch of govt uses it. Congress delegated to the Executive and historically the Judiciary has referred to the Executive when AEA was used. Every time y’all complain about wanting a Judge to issue the order not the Executive y’all prove what you care about is some version of Judicial Supremacy overriding the Executive, the Congress and will of.the voters who elected them to implement the policies using the power.


         
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        tlcomm2 in reply to tjv1156. | March 29, 2025 at 11:22 am

        Do you recognize that the Ludecke case was decided regarding a deportation in a time of PEACE??? He was deported in 1946 and the case finalized in 1948. All this blather about a war being required is idiocy


       
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      WestRock in reply to Hodge. | March 28, 2025 at 6:16 pm

      Party at tjv1156‘s house! Everyone is invited! Pets welcome, bring your friends. Come as you are, food and furnishings provided. Stay as long as you’d like. Anything goes!


     
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    ztakddot in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 5:48 pm

    “demented , racist small-minded man”

    Self-identify much?


     
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    tlcomm2 in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 7:15 pm

    This site is for cogent posts. You belong elsewhere.


     
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    Ghostrider in reply to tjv1156. | March 28, 2025 at 10:02 pm

    It’s almost your bedtime. Don’t forget to take your Zoloft and Chlorpromazine. You will feel better in the morning.


     
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    henrybowman in reply to tjv1156. | March 29, 2025 at 3:05 pm

    Ironic, since there is a fair chance that you, yourself, are literally less than human..


 
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The_Mew_Cat | March 28, 2025 at 7:06 pm

I expect Trump to ultimately lose this one on the merits at SCOTUS, but it may be decided on procedural grounds in the interim. Trump will probably lose at least 1/3 of the litigation over his executive orders when they have a final decision, since he is pushing legal boundaries quite a bit.


 
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thalesofmiletus | March 29, 2025 at 11:25 am

The Constitution is very important because it allows a Democrat president to import 15 million foreigners and make us pay all their bills, but it prevents a Republican President from sending them back.

We must respect that Constitution.


 
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tjv1156 | March 29, 2025 at 11:45 am

Of course you rehatters are more than willing to hand over dictatorial powers to a despicable racist troglodyte but us normal, decent people aren’t.

“That may be the most important point here: Even if courts buy, or at least defer to, the transparently cynical argument by the Trump administration that what TdA is doing constitutes an “invasion or predatory incursion” by “a foreign nation or government,” the U.S. government still bears the burden of persuading courts that individual detainees are members of TdA. That’s going to require case-by-case judicial review; and, as ended up happening in the Guantánamo cases, the government is going to lose many of those cases (perhaps even more of these). All of this goes to why, the way the proclamation is written, it is hard to see how the Alien Enemy Act becomes a meaningful tool for removing large numbers of individuals from the United States. Even if the statute applies to TdA (it doesn’t), it contemplates a meaningful role for the courts in deciding whether the statute applies to individual detainees—a role courts have played during prior wars even when there was no question that the statute had been properly invoked in the first place.

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