Putin Not a Yes or No on Ukraine Ceasefire Proposal
Putin will never stop playing games with the West.
Russian dictator President Vladimir Putin rejected the Ukraine ceasefire proposal.
Or not…
Now reports indicate that Putin has “preliminary and conditional support” for the 30-day ceasefire proposal put together between Ukraine and the United States.
From The New York Times:
He said “we definitely support” the idea, but that a number of “questions” remained to be discussed.
Putin said those questions included the fate of Ukraine’s forces that continue to occupy a small part of Russia’s Kursk region, suggesting that he may demand Ukraine order its troops there to lay down their arms.
The open questions, Putin said, also include whether Ukraine would be able to continue receiving arms shipments during the 30-day cease-fire, and how the cease-fire would be monitored and enforced. “The idea itself is the right one, and we definitely support it,” Putin said. “But there are questions that we need to discuss, and I think that we need to talk them through with our American colleagues and partners.”
Here’s an idea. Ukraine and Russia take back their territory. Yes, Putin, that includes Crimea.
Putin also wants to discuss the “original causes” of the war: the West’s expansions via the EU and NATO.
Remember, this started in 2014—actually, in 2013, when Euromaidan started in Kyiv in November. I covered it at Breitbart from the start.
The Ukrainian people chose to oust Russian puppet President Viktor Yanukovych.
The Ukrainian people wanted closer ties to the European Union.
If you know Yanukovych’s history, you know he could not legitimately have won his election in 2010.
There is a reason why Ukraine is one of the few former Soviet states not in NATO or the EU: It is the heart of Russia/Soviet Union. Many believe Russia was founded in Kyiv.
Belarus is a whole different story because dictator Aleksandr Lukashenko licks Putin’s boots.
Well, Putin should not cry because the citizens of those countries wanted to join NATO and the EU. Russia poses a serious threat to those countries.
I have no doubt Putin continues the debacle because he wants Ukraine but he loves the limelight and stirring trouble within the West.
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Yes. Putin is trying to do a thing called “negotiating.”
He’s not as good at it as some, though, and might be hindered by his big head.
I don’t really get the point of this article. Ukraine and the US agreed to a framework a ceasefire after negotiations and now Trump wants to negotiate with Putin to agree to one and Putin says “sure, lets negotiate terms”. Am I missing something? Why should Putin agree to a ceasefire that he had no part of?
The Ukrainian people wanted closer ties to the European Union.
I believe it was the globalist, like Nuland and Rice that wanted Ukraine in the EU and NATO
Never mind that it borders Russia and promises were made that would never happen
Would you like Mexico to be in Bric and even more antiAmerica?
Didn’t we have an issue with Russia and Cuba?
Promises? Like the promises the USA made to defend Ukraine if they gave their nukes to Russia and forever gave up that bargaining power?
Yeah, America has a lot to answer to
We’ve had our hands in many wars throughout the world, made a mess of the ME and unleashed the tens of million Muslims to reach Western shores
We did that
We didn’t make a mess in the ME. Americans just didn’t have the attention span to see it through. They were annoyed when Breaking News from Iraq began to routinely interrupt Sex in the City and Friends.
Any student of history knows better than to trust American foreign policy. It changes every 4-8 years. And that’s assuming April Gillespie isn’t greenlighting an invasion of your country
There were three separate memoranda, one each for Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. In 2013, Belarus attempted to invoke the “assurances” (not “guarantees,” this was made clear during negotiations over the three memoranda), and the United States (aka Obama administration) declared the Memorandum with Belarus “not legally binding.” This was the green light for Putin to continue aggression in the area, not that he wasn’t justified (to at least a degree) for NATO’s and the EU’s attempt to expand its influence right up to a major Russian border. (Anyone with any understanding of the effect of the Great Patriotic War on the psyche of Russia is well-informed with regard to how Russia would react to these expansions of wester Europe’s influence into what it considers its own sphere.)
Not that fairy tale again …
“if [Ukraine] gave their nukes to Russia* Highly misleading. They were USSR nukes that Ukraine turned over to Russia as part of the very complicated process of Ukraine gaining international recognition.
“the promises the USA made to defend Ukraine” A gross misrepresentation of the Budapest Memorandum, as you’ll see if you consult it online: https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf .
Also, it’s certainly arguable that the US involvement in the 2014 Maidan coup violated the spirit of that agreement (e.g., item 3).
Ukraine had the weapons but they did not have control of the weapons. My understanding is that several people tried trying to get control.
Will wonders never cease. For once I completely agree with you.
Assurances were also given to Russia that NATO wouldn’t expand membership.. and yet NATO did expand its membership. Assurances and memoranda are NOT Treaty obligations. Period.
That is correct and Putin said that it would not take kindly to any expansion of NATO onto it’s borders but Obama and his band of State Dept hacks couldn’t help themselves not only overthrowing a duly elected President of Ukraine then handpicking the one they wanted but forcing NATO expansion.
The Budapest Memorandum was signed by Clinton, then violated by Obama and Biden.
Live on Democrat promises, die on Democrat promises.
I think if Mexico, with the support of South America, invaded Texas and tried to reclaim the southern part of the US, that we would fight them.
We didn’t when Obama and Biden were president. We did when Trump was.
And again, when we didn’t… it was only because Democrats were in charge.
There’s a common theme here, can you see it?
“We” might.
“You” won’t.
Putin is not a yes or a no.
Well, what is he then?
Definitely maybe.
possibly
Perhaps…
Greedy.
The entire headline is nothing more than a dictionary definition of negotiation. It barely even qualifies as clickbait.
He is negotiating so hasn’t said yes or no yet.
Putin is not being unreasonable. The leaders of France and Germany have admitted thar the Minsk treaties were intended as a delaying tactic to give Ukraine time to train and rearm. So naturally Putin is viewing this as a pause in hostilities not a permanent peace. He is simply trying to shape the next battlefield, I would do the same.
I don’t trust him an inch but I do respect him.. He is probably the most dangerous man in the world.
What I want to know is who was the genius that thought Russia would allow a hostile Ukraine to be a border state. That will never happen, any more than we would allow the Soviets to set up camp in Mexico. They chose Cuba instead and almost started a nuclear war..
That’s the other problem – Russia has a new weapon that they believe makes a nuclear exchange “winnable”. If that doesn’t give you pause then you’re not tall enough for this ride. Wrong or right is irrelevant. If they believe MAAD is off the table then we need to throw our playbook in the trash. It no longer applies.
And it’s Russia that decides if America has crossed the line from Proxy to direct war. Again, doesn’t matter if they are right or wrong. This is a very stupid war.
Huh? Wha?? Paula. Didn’t the orange Harvey Weinstein say this thing would be over in one day?? He wasn’t just talking out his ( fat) ass ( for the umpteenth thousand time) was he? Why, It’s almost as if he just blurts shit out to get hoots and hollers from the redhhat rubes. LAFFRIOT!!!
Perhaps the Ukraine might want to think about removing its forces from the Kursk region….assuming they are actually after a ceasefire? 🤔
If you pay attention Ukraine’s forces are trapped. Russia has the only road out and all the territories used to evacuate under firecontrol Ukrainian’s can only evacuate a few troops at a time. Soon they will have physical presence and then it’s either die or surrender.
Oh, so they are trapped is it 😂😂 I am wondering who’s great idea it was to invade Russia and then leaving the army there to be destroyed with all its material, hardware and most importantly of all, lives of the soldiers who died for absolutely nothing 🤔
If he refuses a peace deal, he will throw one dissident off the Kremlin roof. If he agree to a peace deal, he will throw two dissidents off the Kremlin roof.
Seriously though, he’ll ask for a series of reasonable things and then one or two non-starters and that will likely be the state of affairs for a while. Trump’s biggest impediment is the only person who seems to have an earnest desire to end the carnage is him. They say you only make peace with your enemies, which is strictly true. But, the reality is you can only make peace with someone who also has peace as an objective. I’m not sure if Putin is there yet and honestly, it appears Zelensky isn’t there yet either.
Then a pox on both their houses.
Given no one has actually spoken to Russia until now, no one has any ideas what Russias conditions for peace will be 🤷♂️🤷♂️
As they say, at least they are talking which hasn’t happened at any point the last three years because the intellectual Pygmies in the left had backed themselves so far in to a corner that they couldn’t possibly hope to make any kind of change that would promote peace.
I don’t know Mary, the last couple sentences of the article just leave me believing that you’re too biased to cover the story. You come off sounding like a Redditor.
Or maybe she sounds like someone who has actually paid attention to what Russia has been doing in the last two decades? Putin has made it clear he considers the Ukraine to be part of Russia. In 2023 he declared Odessa a Russian city. There isn’t going to be any real cease fire until he’s captured the entire Black Sea coast from Ukraine. His goal it to landlock them, bankrupt them and install his puppet. The only people who don’t understand this are the people who haven’t paid attention to his words and actions.
Euromaidan was a color revolution fomented by the US. So it’s not like Putin is the only player here who backed a crooked election in Ukraine. Russia used the results of Euromaidan to stir up ethnic Russians in Ukraine, and used their protests (in part) to excuse his invasion. No Euromaidan, likely no Russian aggression (or at least, Russian aggression would have awaited another provocation, but the US/UK axis seems to be unable to resist poking the Bear – it’s good for the same types of people who are making bank on the war now, those who have been resisting Trump’s efforts because the spice will cease to flow).
She sounds almost as biased as you do in your comments.
The globalist dream is to keep the war going long enough to destabilize Russia and take control of their resources.
However it appears that Ukraine may run out of men to sacrifice as cannon fodder before that can be achieved. That is particularly true without the continued unlimited weapons and cash supply from the US.
It seems that the globalist warmongers are now pushing for the end game of a US guarantee of any peace deal. Just an excuse to get American troops on the ground. I would bet a hundred dollars to a hole in a donut that if US troops go to Ukraine there will attack on the American garrison probably causing mass casualties. Whether it is a Russian rocket or Ukrainian sabotage won’t matter.. The warhawks will demand that we go to war with Russia.
Spending American blood and treasure in endless wars in good business for the globalists.
(((Z))) has long since run out of young slavs to feed the Russian woodchipper and has turned to raiding senior housing.
If there is one thing Russia has demonstrated over the centuries is that manpower is NOT a problem for them.
I would like to believe that Trump has planned for this contingency.
It’s not like he’s never dealt with a slippery fish that wouldn’t honor a deal.
The devil here is that Ukraine will milk this plight for all it is worth… their leaders don’t want a deal, they want $$$$$. So Putin is playing to that.
As long as Russia keeps gaining ground, no ceasefire. A ceasefire gives Ukraine an opportunity to fortify their side of the line and stop Russian advances. Russia won’t give that up.
Putin is sensibly aware that any 30 day “ceasefire is” just a way for Ukraine to safely resupply He would be a fool to agree to that without a solid commitment that would be no more arms shipments.
He will not give up territory; why should he? Neither America nor the EU is going to put their own citizens in harm’s way to keep Ukraine intact, although they have happily bled their citizens dry to support this war.
Nor should they. The money laundry that is hopelessly corrupt Ukraine is only of value to the parasite class that fomented the 2014 Obama color revolution.
The globalists hope to see Russia crippled so that they can feed on the carcass; Russia chooses to believe that NATO’s decades-long encroachment on Russia’s borders is deliberately provocative and a serious threat to their own sovereignty.
Ukraine and its little Nazi tyrant, who gleefully slaughtered their own ethnic Russian citizens, who have outlawed elections, opposition parties, churches and journalists is not the moral high ground you think it is.
(((Z))) in a suit?
Oh Please
Put the little troll in his usual attire
GI Joe want to be…
This didn’t begin in 2014 it began the moment the Cold War ended. Lots of chaos and uncertainty so all sorts of tentative understandings and assurances were made. Unfortunately not in a Treaty so not binding. Just because some past Asst Sec State of a prior Presidential Admin made a ‘pinky promise’ doesn’t make it binding.
Russia ain’t giving back the Crimea and I am 99% sure not their gains in the Donbas either. Anyone who thinks that’s a realistic condition for a lasting peace should be banished to the little kids table where dreams, imagination, rainbows and unicorns proliferate.
Maybe those insisting Russia hand back its territorial gains want to offer up land concessions to the various Tribes in the USA? Gonna give TX to the Comanche? If not why? How about handing TX over to Mexico? No? How come? Because we stole it fair and square by right of conquest then wrapped up the theft in a Treaty tied with pretty ribbons. Not the first nor the last time one Nation seized territory from neighbors by force of arms. Grow up and deal with reality as it is, not as you wish it to be.
Post being broken in bits — because it is long.
Mary if you want us to fight in Ukraine well then pack up you adult children and yourself and go fight. Join Liz Cheney. We’ll set up a givesendandgo for you kit.
Let me clue you in. Since last year several times. Z and the EU met to argue that hammer out a peace treaty. The two basic terms:
1. Russia withdraw from everything.
2. Russia pay reparations.
They then presented the “treaty” ( really demands ) to Russia.
When Z met with Trump there was another term: a US security guarantee
A US security guarantee means probable deployment of US troops if even the slightest thing goes wrong,
The deal that Trump arranged basically said we would arrange a truce for minerals. Z kept trying to add the security guarantee. He tried it in front of the press at the WH, That’s what the dust up was all about.
Z is like the crazy girlfriend who starts a fiight with some guy when you are out on a date. She’s hoping to drag you into the fight.
In fact it’s not just Z. It’s the EU, which has been pushing and prodding Trump since he got into office. Fortunately Trump has avoided failing for their machinations. The very same people you decry — the Klaus Scwabs etc are the ones trying to get the US in deeper.
So now let me give a piece of advice. You don’t call time out during a three on one fast break. Ukraine has been losing badly and now they are looking at the worst. Kursk is now a mopping up action and they are moving fast towards Sumi. Sumi is five hours drive from Kiev. Ukraine will have to reinforce it by pulling troops from Pokovsk where they are barely hanging on. Pokosvk is major travel hub. From there Russia can easily move to all the territory it wants, then it will be onto Mykolaiv and then Oddessa. Then it’s over. Ukraine has already lost the war.
And for who are we doing this? A bunch of neoNazi’s we already designated terrorists.
Yeah yeah Z is a Jew. So is George Soros, who spent his youth helping his adopted father confiscate property .of German Jews for the Nazi’s.
Reminder Ryan Routh, the second assassin, had direct ties to Ukraine . They have ties to several assassinations, including the attempted assassination opf Slovak’s President Robert Fico.
Not to mention their hit list, which at one point contained JDVance and Tulsi Gabbard,
This is the face of modern Ukraine https://myrotvorets.center/.
We have created the Al-Qaeda of East Europe.
And what did it get us?
Russia now has close ties to China. Something Kissinger said should never happen .
Contrary to some rah rah Russia people I will not say Russia’s economy is steaming ahead with no troubles. Russia has 20% interest rates and 5% inflation.OTOH Russia’s domestic car industries grew by 20% last yer, something we would kill for.
In the meantime, in Germany Mercedes shut down several of their car models. Volkswagon is shuttering factories. The EU economy is being hurt more by the sanctions than Russia
Putin is making the mistake of thinking Trump, the negotiator, has unlimited patience. If P-Man keeps playing coy, watch for Trump do something very big to get Putin’s attention.
Applying real.sanctions might get Russia’s attention. Though that would mean slapping true restrictions on Russian exports AND on the Nations that violate the sanctions regime. Pretty sure the Nations buying Russian Oil, Nat Gas, minerals and grain will continue to do so. The current scuffle has been going on for 3+ years and they haven’t quit buying. FWIW those continued purchases include the EU and the USA neither of which have stopped 100% of their purchases from Russia.
Show me. — Vladimir Putin
Israel should take notes.
Take note of what?
Wait? Is this thing STILL going on? I thought ‘ the moron; was going to end it on day one? LAFFRIOT. Another con job on the redhat rubes.
Remind mom to get you another box of tissues, more Pizza Pockets and extra Mountain Dew when she gets groceries.
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