Trump Cuts Talks With Zelensky After Fiery Oval Office Exchange
Trump to Zelensky: “You’re right now not in a very good position. You’ve allowed yourself to be in a very bad position.”
I don’t even know where to start.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tried to show up President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance in the Oval Office.
It didn’t end well because Zelensky has left the White House.
— Kaelan Dorr (@Kaelan47) February 28, 2025
Here are a few clips.
Does Zelensky want this war to end? He’ll only accept a ceasefire with guarantees.
Uh, excuse me? We don’t owe anyone anything. You’re not getting our help for free:
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Your people are dying. You’re running low on soldiers. You’re running low on soldiers. It would be a damn good thing. And then you tell us, “I don’t want a ceasefire. I don’t want a ceasefire. I want to go, and I want this.”
Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you, you take it so the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: Of course, we want to stop the war.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: But you’re saying you don’t want to cease fire? I want a cease-fire.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: With guarantees.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You’ll get a ceasefire faster than an agreement.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: Ask our people about a ceasefire, what they think.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: That wasn’t with me. That was with a guy named Biden, who was not a smart person. That was with Obama.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: It was your president.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Excuse me? That was with Obama, who gave you sheets. And I gave you javelins. Yes. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is “Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.” You got to be more thankful, because let me tell you, you don’t have the cards. With us, you have the cards, but without us, you don’t have any cards. Here’s a tough deal to make because the attitudes have to change.
Zelensky demands a ceasefire with guarantees that America will defend it. He’s not willing to budge on his position. What an annoying prick.
Trump puts him in his place. pic.twitter.com/Xk59lFYvq0
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) February 28, 2025
Trump told Zelensky he does not have the cards to make any demands:
VICE PRESIDENT JD VANCE: And do you think that it’s respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: A lot of questions. Let’s start from the beginning. First of all, during war, everybody has problems, even you, but you have nice ocean and don’t feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You don’t know that. Don’t tell us what we’re going to feel.
We’re trying to solve a problem. Don’t tell us what we’re going to feel.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: I’m not telling you —
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Because you’re in no position to dictate that.
Remember this: You’re in no position to dictate what we’re going to feel. We’re going to feel very good. We’re going to feel very good and very strong.
You’re right now not in a very good position. You’ve allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he happens to be right —
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: From the very beginning of the war.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You’re not in a good position. You don’t have the cards right now.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: I’m not playing cards, Mr. President, I’ve very serious.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: With us, you start having cards right now you don’t know you’re playing cards. You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III. You’re gambling with World War III.
And what you’re doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country, far more than a lot of people said they should have.
.@VP: "Do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?"@POTUS: "You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards … You're… pic.twitter.com/iTYyAmfuCJ
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) February 28, 2025
Zelensky tried to play victim, crying about being alone, when we know he’s taken so much money from America and Europe:
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You’re not winning this. You have damn a good chance of coming out okay because of us.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we’ve been alone, and we are thankful. I said thanks.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You haven’t been alone. We gave you through the stupid president, $350 billion. We gave you military equipment. You and your men are brave. But they had to use our military. If you didn’t have our military equipment–
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: You invited me.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: If you didn’t have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks.
.@POTUS: "Your country is in big trouble. You're not winning … You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us."
"You haven't been alone. We gave you, through [our] stupid president, $350 billion. We gave you military equipment … If you didn't have our military… pic.twitter.com/MFU600Enlt
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) February 28, 2025
Reality is, Zelensky, there will be disagreements:
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: In three days. I heard it from Putin, in three days. This is something —
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Maybe less.
It’s going to be a very hard thing to do business like this. I tell you, you.
VICE PRESIDENT JD VANCE: Say thank you. Accept that there are disagreements. And let’s go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media — when you’re wrong. We know that you’re wrong.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: But you see, I think it’s good for the American people to see what’s going on. I think it’s very important. That’s why I kept this going so long. You have to be thankful. You don’t have the cards.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: I’m thankful.
.@POTUS: "It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this."@VP: "Accept that there are disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media when you're wrong." pic.twitter.com/WSZWZU4BBY
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) February 28, 2025
The full exchange:
President Trump and Vice President Vance will always stand for America and those who respect our position in the world. America will never be taken advantage of. pic.twitter.com/0cKfPYQDdk
— Margo Martin (@MargoMartin47) February 28, 2025
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“ It didn’t end well because Zelensky has left the White House.”
And don’t come back before you pay a visit to Brooks Brothers. Never in my wildest dreams would I ever go to Capitol Hill/SCOTUS/White House wearing anything other than a suit. It is highly disrespectful and reflects very poorly on you. That’s one thing.
Second, for the billions that were stolen from us by this clown, I want restitution via mining. Trump has the right approach here.
Third, this war needs to end. I do not care if Russia benefits. That is not our concern.
As far as I am concerned not one more penny to fund this war.
That’s Trump’s limo mechanic, isn’t it?
Trump would hire better than that
He’s a jester!
Russia can get their camps and gas chambers ready, they are about to have millions of victims arriving in cattle cars
1.5 million dead, injured or missing. And, no movement in 2 years.
Ukraine is not going to win back Crimea or the Donbass.
You’re thinking of the Azov Battalion, which is distinctively Ukrainian organization which was pro-N@zi during World War II and continues to be openly N@zi in some areas (Eastern Ukraine) and pervasive throughout Ukrainian society (particularly its military). The Azov Battalion is well documented, well known, and virulently anti-Semitic. Why the Biden regime did nothing to address that issue is criminal.
We now know for sure whose side Trump is on. The curtain has been drawn, and this is a good thing. This is the first time in my life when a US President has publicly supported a Communist Coalition against Europe and the US. The only groups that support Trump’s position on Ukraine more than most of the commentators here on LI are the Russian Communist Party, the North Korean Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party, and Iran. We now know for sure whose side Trump is on. China now knows that it can invade Taiwan without impunity. Russia knows that it can invade the Baltic Republics without consequences and rebuild the Soviet Union without opposition from the Trump Administration, God only knows what Iran is thinking.
Seems to me people like you are vehemently against keeping Ukrainians alive and dead set against any ceasefire in the Ukraine if it means a ceasefire pulled together by Trump 😂
End of the day it’s a binary choice, ceasefire or the war keeps going.
There are going to be no guarantees as America isn’t going to be drawn in to a direct shooting match with Russians and Europe most certainly doesn’t have the will to put boots in to actual direct combat in the Ukraine.
Shorter JR: “Russia! Russia! Russia!”
As if anyone with an IQ above room temperature actually believes that Trump is now or has ever been Putin’s stooge.
Try a different argument. This one has worn out.
“As if anyone with an IQ above room temperature actually believes that Trump is now or has ever been Putin’s stooge”
True, but there are still plenty of pathetic, lying c*nts who will parrot that moronic line because they think it still carries political weight. Sad.
You are off your rocker. Ending a war is more important than silly games and Democratic talking points.
Can it, you ignorant dufus.
Keep sending YOUR tax dollars until the last Ukrainian dies, not MY tax dollars.
I wonder if JR actually does pay taxes.
Trumps negotating tactics on this are not great, comment he made about a being a dictator when kgb evil bastard invaded not great But the fact is z is a whiny b And Reality on ground and realpolitik dictates that Z needs to shut up and cooperate and overall Trump is doing the correct thing, the best thing in a difficult situation.
It’s not as if a war can’t be fought by two dictators.
Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s comes to mind to those of us of a certain age.
It’s not the arbitrator’s job to be on one side or the other.
Lol. did you watch the entire video of the exchange? HAha. You clearly did not. Junior.
This is an utterly moronic take on the situation, without any connection to reality.
Yes. The American taxpayer’s side. Like he’s supposed to be.
There’s nothing virtuous about declaring the US should go further into debt and facilitate turning Ukraine into an abattoir in order to have an opportunity to declare that we fought Putin to the last Ukrainian while risking none of our own military personnel. We find ourselves in the current position because (1) Obama was content to allow Putin to seize Crimea and the Donbas region before Trump even came down the escalator to declare his candidacy for the 2016 race; and (2) Biden (or whomever was running the Executive Branch while he watched Matlock reruns and scarfed down pudding) persuaded Putin that an assault to take the rest of Ukraine could succeed. That the Biden/whomever then betrayed Putin by providing hardware and funding to Zelenskyy prolonged the suffering, but did not change the fact that Russia has three times Ukraine’s population and massively greater defense industrial capacity.
Zelenskyy’s position that the only acceptable outcome is for Russia to return to the 2013 borders is not realistic–he does not (and will not) have the military power to compel that result. The only way for Ukraine to achieve that outcome is for the U.S. to declare war and commit its military to expel the Russians (at the risk of a strategic nuclear exchange)–which will never, ever happen.
Further, the Baltic states are NATO allies, whom we are obligated by treaty to defend while Ukraine is not. And Taiwan is essentially the sole producer of the highest-end computer chips (the U,S, and the Taiwanese company involved are working to expand production to the U.S., but that’s still a work in progress); a continued supply is a declared critical national interest of the United States. What does Ukraine export that has similar importance to the U.S.? Anyone? Hello?
Hysterical diaper-filling is no solution to real problems. The situation is not hopeless, but the solution lies in sober analysis and a realistic perspective on the actual state of the world.
Well, we don’t know what the Ukrainians think since he’s suspended elections–and I’m not going to support some petty dictator who has to press gang people off the street to fight a war they’re not going to win–all of these supporters need to either go fight alongside him or send their own kids–then we’ll see how much support they provide him
We vow to fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood, and the last dollar of American money – Europe
History will record that Donald Trump was the Neville Chamberlain of our time. Peace in our time.
That is a truly idiotic comment, substance and form. What’s YOUR plan?
As I noted earlier, JR is willing to fight until the last Ukrainian is dead.
How noble. How stunning and brave.
History will not record, nor care, that a sad old phleeb like you even existed.
JR! You’re smart enough to know that Neville Chamberlain returned from his meeting in Munich waving an agreement in his hand, signed by Adolph Hitler. It was that agreement Chamberlain claimed guaranteed peace with a militant Germany. So I’m not seeing the similarities between Trump and Chamberlain.
(1) Trump’s proposed agreement for the Ukraine to sign over 50% proffits from rare ,minerals was in return for US mining efforts PLUS a US presence in the Ukraine, something Putin could not ignore. Nothing from the US will be free during Trump’s term. The Ukraine was being asked for payback, as well as gratitude for the opportunity.
(2) Little Z never expressed a desire to stop the war. Actually, quite the opposite. The suspicion is that Little Z has somnething to protect from a protracted war. Hitler was never this obvious.
One thing is undoubtedly sure: JR had low SAT scores.
Trump has a level of understanding that is far higher than Chamberlin’s naive view ever was. Your claim is foolish.
History will record you as the Buchanan of our time.
Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland, and Anthony Blinken must be arrested for violations of the Logan Act.
https://x.com/KylieJaneKremer/status/1895655091777998985
Trump is agreeing with Putin on stuff Putin cares about so that later Putin will import some of that good feeling on stuff Putin is actually not so happy about. Negotiation 101
Trump doesn’t have to worry about Zelensky.
Zelensky should have never come to DC
Evidently Z has never heard of “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” He has just gotten the boot. Reminds me of the famous: “Hit the Road Jack …” The Trump version should go something like:
Now, listen, Trump, don’t you treat me this way
‘Cause I’ll be back on my feet some day
Don’t care if you do, cause it’s understood
You ain’t got no money, you just ain’t no good
Well, I guess if you say so
I’ll have to pack my things and go (That’s right)
Sweet talking Putin and brow beating Zelinsky. Because that is what it will take to stop the killing.
While you are correct the issue is getting Putin to the table how about worrying about Republican Senators who rightly are on the Ukrainian side and without doubt did not like seeing that any more than I did?
Oh noes! Uniparty Danny’s forever war may be ended!
Even Lindsey Graham who never saw a war he was an absolutely in love with had no problem with the way Trump handled it
Zelensky’s incredibly stupid, insolent behavior is arguably the biggest blunder by a world leader since Hezbollah decided to order some Temu pagers. Hard to see how he’s the leader of Ukraine in another month. He’s either going to resign or face a likely coup. The photo of the Ukrainian Ambassador to the US sitting in the front row said it all; she knows it’s over for him.
It appears as though Zelenskyy “learned how to President” by watching late night comedy shows, and he’s a C student at that. He shows very little respect to all representatives of all nations by wearing his peasant garb. Meanwhile his nation isn’t just an agricultural collective or a Woodstock revival. There are modern industries and plenty of people who own suits and ties.
It’s about time someone put him in his place. I guess he thought President Trump was another mindless Biden, or maybe his American doppelgänger (a late night comic).
Piss off, Zelenskyy.
He “learned how to President” bby playing one in late night comedy shows.
“The Ministry of Silly Policies.”
No applause. I guess Alexander Vindmann was not listening in.
Apparently Zelensky doesn’t know when to hold ’em or when to fold ’em, or when to walk away know and when to run. He especially erred by counting his money when sittin’ at the table when there’ll be time enough for countin’ when the dealing’s done.
There’s now video of the Ukrainian ambassador’s reaction as it was all going down.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1895552547479568564
I actually feel bad for her. Her country is on fire – in a figurative and literal sense – and her boss appears to be on a coke-fueled bender or something.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2598060/ukraine-ambassador.webp?w=450&f=3748f3cc657ea47ba5150fcb40be4aae
How could he face a coup? He’s already not the legitimate leader of ukraine, his term ended in 2024. Canceled elections and outlawed political opposition. He’s nothing but a petty tin pot dictator and I hope he gets the ceacsescu treatment
Zelensky could curry favor by spilling the beans about which of our politicians were bribed. That would be a hoot.
“the biggest blunder by a world leader since Hezbollah decided to order some Temu pagers”
Gotta be right up there with Biden eagerly hamstringing US energy industry in week one, then selling off our reserves, and then having to beg a sheikh for oil only to get laughed at.
Zelensky will have to find his Venezuela.
Zelensky wants money, weapons and blood. He picked the wrong President to mess with.
hey dummy … different president different congress ….
you better wake up …. or it will not end well for you
“Sorry Mr. Zelensky, the money spicket has been turned off.”
“But Biden said if I gave Hunter a job he would let men have a blank check.”
“PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: That wasn’t with me. That was with a guy named Biden, who was not a smart person. That was with Obama.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY: It was your president.”
Wow. Z’s talking like he has one of those things in his pocket, what do you call ’em?
Right, a treaty.
You got a treaty, Z? I didn’t think so.
That is the toughest stand I have ever seen a U.S. president take in my lifetime. Good on you, President Trump.
That t_rd Zelensky thinks his self-righteous crap will play with Trump like it played with FJB. WRONG!
He and his predecessors got Ukraine into this mess; they own it. Russia takes over? I give a crap. Germany, France, Benelux? They’ll give a crap, but that ship has freakin sailed.
350 UNACOUNTED FOR U.S. dollars, and what do we have? Nada, zero, zilch, Ø.
Ukraine’s gonna go, and the globalists will blame it on Trump. But the majority of the American people will praise DJT for getting us out of an unwinnable situation — one that we should not have ever gotten into in the first place. Blame FJB and is weaselly shadow advisors.
Bottom line? The Lord helps those who help themselves. Screw Europe. The can put on their big boy pants and stand up against Putin … or they can simply roll over and spread their legs. The choice is theirs … NOT OURS.
Boris Trump had Putin penis on his breath
Who is Boris Trump?
Moderators, Please consider deleting the above comment by geronl.
I disagree. Leave it for all to see, for he who controls the past controls the future.
That post by geronl is not needed to reveal that he is a retromingent son of a pox riddled fecal breath mutant warthog. History will mark him just the same without it.
F*ck off, sh*tlib. Everybody hates you people and your USAIDs-funded “consensus” of opinion.
Grow up geroni.
This is probably another Rags —- JR, etc.
What a crude comment. How old are you???
That is probably JR posting under a different username as geroni
Yeah, if only Ukraine had surrendered to Russia when Putin started sabre rattling, none of this would have happened.
We have in the past said “screw Europe”, how did that work out?
Yet another sh*tlib retard regurgitating whatever trash MSM feeds it.
That sow, Victoria Nuland, engineered the Maidan coup in 2014. Violence against ethnic Russians in southern Ukraine soon commenced. It continued unpunished for years.
Good people can disagree without descending into ad hominem bs. SMH..
Those who refuse to “disagree” in good faith aren’t “good people.” Politely appeasing neocons, whose political affiliation changes with the weather, is what got the world into this and other big messes in the first place.
They need to be ridiculed to their faces whenever the opportunity arises.
“We have in the past said “screw Europe”, how did that work out?”
“We” told Putin a “little incursion” was OK — how did THAT work out?
It was Obama who okayed Russia re-appropriating the Crimea. The Ukraine never stood a chance in hell of keeping the Crimea, or actually the Donbass. Russia has always needed a warm water port. During WWII, we had to supply Russia thru Murmansk, a port in the Arctic ocean. Yeah, that was fun. The Merchant Marines did that job, ’cause it was too dangerous for the Navy.
That little hairball Zelensky may very well be the worst negotiator the world has ever known.
“Duck theason!”
“Rabbit season!”
Zelensky has been gas lighting others so much and become accustomed to others kissing his ass that he really seemed flustered at being challenged. Then he compounded his error, failing to ‘read the room’ and PO both Vance and Trump with his antics along with many US Citizens already tired of him.
His behavior reminded me of a few women I’ve dated, all very attractive getting lots of attention/validation from men. They were so used to getting their own way without any pushback that when I told them no they damn near shut down ….but despite their initial anger/frustration they always reached out again wanting another opportunity. Zelensky will do the same, assuming his Nation doesn’t toss him out before then.
yeah, he musta thought that he was still talking to Biden!
Well, before when he visited, the White House was set up like a Nursing Home. Zalensky found Patient Biden to be “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” who would give him anything he wanted.
Well, now it’s back to a White House again and we have a President who don’t take no shitt.
I doubt he ever had an actual conversation with Biden. The drooling moron couldn’t find Ukraine on a map to save his life.
Now now now. An awful lot of his family’s money came from there…
Apparently he did have phone calls with Biden… and managed to piss him off too.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1610727/biden-lost-temper-with-zelensky-as-ukrainian-leader-pressed-for-more-aid-report/
“On a phone call earlier this year, President Joe Biden “lost his temper” with President Volodymyr Zelensky, telling the Ukrainian leader that Americans had given generously to the war against Russia as Zelensky urged more support from Washington, according to a new report.
The incident occurred over the summer during a phone call between Biden and Zelensky, one of dozens that have taken place since Russia invaded Ukraine in February. Biden “had barely finished telling” Zelensky that the White House would grant Ukraine another $1 billion in U.S. military assistance when Zelensky began asking for more assistance.”
lol you must be something else as far as women go
Seems you pick the same kind of women to date
Meh, I did ok. I was an introverted ‘ugly duckling’ that, looking back on it, had a big level up at 14. It took until I was in my mid 20’s to figure out the attention I was receiving was serious and not a big practical joke. I unwittingly turned down Women b/c I lacked social skills and the understanding to recognize choosing signals from Women.
Once I figured those out the problem was sifting through all the chaff to get to the wheat and separating the keepers from the ‘run away and don’t look back Cray Cray types’ that stalk you, key your car and show up at your apartment uninvited.
My advice to single Men (though it could be adapted to Women) is don’t give a second look to any Woman who doesn’t immediately come across as fit, feminine, friendly and cooperative from the first impression. If she has those traits then look deeper for intelligence, a sense of humor, kindness and beauty.
Then look at how she interacts with/relationship with her Father and at how her Mother treats her Father. That is how this young Woman will eventually treat you b/c that’s the dynamic she was raised with. If she or her Mother ride roughshod over her Father or hen peck him… then walk away now before you get sucked into that nightmare.
The mating game is tough for men and women alike. And timing is a big part of it, one person ready to settle down, when the other isn’t.
If the goal is marriage and children then nobody is playing much. Rate of formation is down to 6/1000 and rate of divorce for 1st marriage is 46% much higher for 2nd/3rd marriages. Ave age of marriage is way up. All of which causes a decline in birth rates.
Many Men are walking away entirely from seeking marriage. Until, as a society, we can make a good faith effort to provide a convincing secular answer to the question Men seem to be asking ‘what benefit do I receive in a marriage that doesn’t exist outside marriage’ I don’t see it improving. FWIW I don’t see any broad based effort to provide an answer either, likely b/c it would spawn very uncomfortable questions as to how society degenerated to this point.
Z should probably consider not going home. He will be met with at least a demand for elections, at worst a military coup (which he may not survive). He’s made a terrible tactical mistake that will have negative strategic effects on both himself and Ukraine.
He trusted Trump by coming. That was the mistake
His mistake was thinking that Trump is as stupid as the pedophile he replaced
He had no other option. The man lives only by the kindness of strangers.
Love the quote!
Actually, there is little demand for elections in Ukraine. The earliest they could be held, by Ukrainian law is 6 months from now, if they could get a cease fire in place, since it’s difficult to vote when your polling place is being shelled.
That’s a real convenient excuse
What’s a convenient excuse? Ukrainian law would need to be changed to hold elections for the entire country in the middle of a hot war next week. You do know that, don’t you?
That’s not totally accurate. The thing precluding elections is not the Constitution on its own. It is the declaration of Martial Law by Zelensky which prevents the elections. There isn’t an automatic, stand alone trigger that suspended scheduled elections in the Ukrainian Constitution.
Zelensky would also need to release all the opposition politicians he jailed, restore the free press, take his goons out of opposition TV,.radio and newspapers to let them operate. Restore religious freedom. Interesting that Zelensky was embarked on creating some of these problems that impede free/fair elections PRIOR to Feb ’22
Watched some video. J. D. was lethal. Perfect wingman for DJT.
they make a great pair!
I’m convinced Vance was there to listen carefully for any indication Zelynsky was on board for a cease fire, and, lacking that assurance, Vcance was prepared to pounce. Which he did with skill and verve. That is one lethal attorney!
Yesterday, JD Vance acted in defense of his president, which is the primary duty of a US Marine. I am proud of JD.
I agree with Steve Bannon: Walk away from Ukraine.
https://rumble.com/v6pl24l-steve-bannon-walk-the-fck-away-from-ukraine-economic-partnership-deal.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
It’s part of the Eastern European “blood lands” that have been highly unstable for a millennium. Walk away NOW, even if it means never finding out who stole the billions of $$ that haven’t been accounted-for. Don’t send any more weapons, or try to get compensation for the billions that the US squandered there.
Has the rare earth deal been signed?
The rare earths are in Donbass, which is no longer Ukraine. It was a meaningless bargaining chip.
I wondered about that too. The mineral map of Ukraine shows most of the $$ are in the east.
40% to 47% are in areas currently controlled by Russia.
No. And Little Z didn’t get lunch either.
So – was I just proved right about ‘the moron’ or what?. Incompetent, uninformed.ZERO sense of decency.
Great write-up by Noah Rothman of the National Review, who CLEARLY sees Trump for what is.Just a COMPLETE. TOTAL. ASSHOLE.Shhheeeesh.
Pro tip: Take your hand out of your pajama bottoms before posting again.
“Unemployed oncologists hardest hit.”
Yes, Zelensky is a moron.
What a brilliant comment; you are on a roll, Troll!
Yep, you were wrong is the total asshole was zielinsky. Didn’t even have the common decency to show up not looking like a slob and certainly had didn’t have the common since to show even the slightest hint of gratitude. He can go to hell
“Castro Chic” can’t transform a Popinjay President.
Double alliteration. Very nice!
Unlike broken clocks and blind pigs you are neither right twice a day or likely to locate a solitary acorn.
You do understand that NRO lacks the same clout it once enjoyed when Buckley was running it and when his successors still cleaved to his vision? Today it is haven for washed out pseudo libertarian globalists who cling to big gov’t neocon adventurism and haven’t come to terms with the end of the Cold War over three decades ago. These guys are on their final stop before they get sent to the Bulwark for goodness sake.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/this-is-not-a-tv-show/
Noah Rothman represents everything that’s wrong with National Review and the wing of the Republican party it appeals to. There are North Carolinians who are freezing in tents at this very moment because their country abandoned them while this ungrateful turd insults his benefactors in the Oval Office during a meeting to secure even more US taxpayer billions for his country.
Are those people in those tents black? Why would a Trumper pretend they care about them?
You sound like the racist, despite you trying to pretend otherwise.
There it is; the Race Card.
Unfortunately for leftists the overuse of this card has rendered it so old, tired, worn and so commonplace as tactic to try and end debate or shift the debate that it no longer works. FYI neither do claims of xenophobia, white Nationalism, Christian Nationalism (in fairness there is some of that around), homophobia, comparisons to Hitler, Nazi/Fascist (who are of the left National Socialist rejected by Stalin as not being sufficiently pure/dedicated to Communist ideals). In sum ad hominem attacks and claims of ‘ists, isms and phobes’ have lost their sting b/c they got used so often and so incorrectly applied by the left to those who merely disagree with leftist ideological goals/policies. See ‘The boy that cried wolf’.
Trump supporters care about them because they’re Americans. Unlike Democrats who hate us because we’re Americans.
Interesting comment from a cultist that likely worshipped President Barrett.
Actually, it IS a TV show:
“Lost.”
What happened to that minerals deal that was all but agreed to last night?
That’s the $10K question. No one knows for certain. But, there are some sources close to the White House that have said Zelensky walked back assurances he gave to Rubio last night and then demanded a commitment for US boots on the ground shortly before that Oval Office press conference began and that’s what poisoned the well. We’ll have to see if that reporting gets repeated by any of the bigger (and more reliable) outlets…or, maybe Trump or Vance will eventually comment directly on it.
Now on hold pending Zelensky putting on his big boy pants.
Hell, he needs to start with pants that require a belt. Drawstrings ain’t doing it
Inviting a foreign leader under false pretenses (fake mineral deal) just to set up an ambush to humiliate them is a very bad look. Now Trump looks like a bully to the whole world.
Right, Zelensky attempting to lecture Trump had nothing to do with it.
This war is over before the end of March, and you and every other clown won’t know what to do or say.
During the presidential election Zelenskii went to a Pennsylvania munitions plant and told the workers there that if they voted for Trump they would lose their jobs.
The ‘fake mineral deal’ was already voted on and approved by the Ukrainian legislature earlier this week. Zelensky was there for a signing photo-op and he’s so stupid, or high AF on cocaine, he screwed it up.
The world that resembles the out of touch Democrats running toward ollivion while caring only for themselves?
Plenty are actually in touch, and are against the continued death and nonsense, and need no lectures from the likes that foisted every hoax while being bullies, abusing power, while pretending to speak for all.
The deal was not signed. It was only a pretense to ambush Zelensky
It wasn’t signed because Zelensky wouldn’t sign it.
And you only say it because you call balls and strikes.
Wokiesta leftist talking point. Even your globalist neocon frontman in the GoP, Sen Graham, has pointed out that Zelensky effed up with his aggressive antics. Ukraine was coming to the USA as a supplicant to hopefully sign a mineral development deal that puts the USA more firmly tied to Ukraine economically giving us a direct interest in getting the war ended sooner.
Zelensky blew it up. He tried to act like the alpha dog in the WH sitting next to Trump and Vance. How he misunderstands that Ukraine needs the USA far more than we need them is bizarre. Zelensky bristling at the suggestion that diplomacy is needed to and the war is equally bizarre. Ukraine can not win this war on the battlefield. Their only hope is a diplomatic victory.
Z. Happened.
Trump may be “master of the deal” but you really can’t make a deal with someone who says X in a meeting today, then will publicly and/or privately say NOT X the next day.
Granted, the USA (and Europe) is not totally guiltless in this debacle of a war. When Ukraine split we “guaranteed” their independence IF they gave up their nukes. Which they did, and the “guarantee” turned out to be toothless. If we were ever seriously going to consider folding Ukraine into NATO we should have done it right then – the Ex-USSR would have been in no position to veto it.
The beauty of the Mining Rights proposal was that we would get something even a weak-kneed Biden 2.0 would want to protect, so in future Russia would think twice about restarting the war. But Z. Confuses T. For the American fools he’s been dealing with before, willing to endlessly buy him dinners without a quid pro quo at the end of the date.
Look, T.’s read is that P. Would like to end the war (which he thought would be a 15 day cake walk) but backed himself into a corner. He may be right, he may not be, but if Z. thinks we’re happy to continue pouring money down a black hole in the hope that instead of stalemate and continued death a Ukrainian total victory will miracle of miracles occur, he’s mistaken.
The West, including the USA, also made similar ‘guarantees’ to Russia that NATO wouldn’t keep expanding membership and certainly that it wouldn’t expand to the borders of Russia.
The Russians have a history of being invaded from all directions. They get understandably twitchy about hostile Nations or hostile coalitions moving towards them. That’s what NATO is, it was created to oppose the USSR and Warsaw Pact Bloc during the Cold War. Unfortunately NATO didn’t dissolve after it had served its purpose and helped win the Cold War which ended three decades ago. That’s an oversimplified version of how the Russians view things. Doesn’t matter of we believe it, what matters is the Russians do. Always important to seek to understand and not dismiss the concerns of your counter party and /or potential adversary lest we blunder into avoidable conflict.
“I don’t know if Zelensky can ever get you where you want to go with the United States. Either he dramatically changes or you gotta get someone new.”
– Lindsay Grahan, on FNC moments ago
Grahamnesty getting scared that Trump is serious about doing a full investigation and audit of where all that Ukraine money went.
Do all the news networks have their fainting couches set up?
They are set up permanently.
I suspect they have couches set up so they can mutually masterbate each other in to a frenzy at the incredible manly manliness of Zalensky 😂😂
Good. Long past time somebody put the arrogant little midget in his place.
There are TWO scenarios on the table here.
1) Ukraine acknowledges reality that it has lost territory it is not capable of taking back, and negotiates peace with Russia that involves Ukraine agreeing that it has lost the war and has to make concessions
2) NATO sends troops to actually fight and take the territory back
Since nobody is seriously talking about scenario #2, then #1 it is. The idea that Ukraine has any leverage to demand ‘concessions’ from Putin as a precondition for peace talks is insane.
The US is done with this money pit forever war.
How many countries will now withdraw their ambassadors or evict US ambassadors from their countries?
Zero.
Zip. Zero. Nada.
The Nations which choose Ukraine over the USA as a result of the primadonna antics and narcissistic attitude of Zelensky in his video recorded interaction with both the President and VP at the WH…will be choosing very poorly. I suspect no Nation, certainly not one we want as a friendly ally, will take any such provocative diplomatic action.
Answer #1; zero
Answer #2; who cares?
None, but who really cares? Lefties seem to revel in the trope that the US is the laughing stock of the world. It’s not true, but again, WTFC? Many of us are secure enough to not live our lives worrying about what others think.
None–NATO is already telling Zelensky that he has to repair his relationship with Trump, and the UK is starting to walk back all that talk about their loan of billions to him
I can’t wait until Trump and Vance get Putin in the Oval office and tell him to grovel while they berate him.
Putin is afraid of Trump because Trump is the only man strong enough to do something about him. That’s why Putin invaded his neighbors during W. Bush, Obama, and Biden but couldn’t do anything while Trump was in charge. Those three would send him a strongly worded letter but Putin knew that Trump would drop a drone strike on his palace if he tried anything. All this “Putin owns Trump” is nonsense. It’s the other way around.
Trump isn’t going to do anything about Putin.
What exactly is Trump supposed to “do” about Putin?
Ukraine isn’t actually our concern. Not an ally, not part of any treaties that I’ve seen, not part of NATO. What interests does the US have there?
The only reason we sent money was Biden and his family were getting kickbacks from Ukraine when Biden was VP and probably got kickbacks from the money sent while president.
I don’t think Trump actually needs to do anything about Putin.
Russia really is nothing more than a regional player now. They have no money and their military has shown itself to be a paper tiger who’s only real asset is its willingness to kill more and more of their own troops to reach any objective.
Europe can just about deal with Russia 😂😂
Putin would probably have enough sense to be deferential to his hosts and refrain from becoming confrontational in public despite his private thoughts and communications away from the cameras.
I suspect Putin is intelligent enough not to put himself in to that position.
Zalensky on the other hand doesn’t seem to be that kind of guy 😂
I think that Zelensty is like a poorly dressed unsuccessful used car salesman. Though he has stole more money.
Putin isn’t strupid enough to end up in that position. Little Z is one dumb bunny.
The chasm between Europe and the USA is widening quickly. We are seeing The Crimean War V2.0. UK, France, Germany etc are pushing Zelensky … the Little Big Man… to put it to Trump. Now with Turkey wanting to be involved in rebuilding Ukraine… the same players of 1850s are in play now.
The Crimean War v2.0 is just one of the options favored by the international globalist warmongers.
Also in play is a continuation of WW1 trench warfare carnage particularly with the UK and other European fools talking about sending troops to Ukraine where at best they will have a standoff butchering a generation of young men in a repeat of 1914 to 1918. As with WW1 the motivation for war over disputed East European borders today or the Balkan issues in 1914 don’t even come close to justifying the carnage then or now.
Last but not least is Ukraine wanting US or least NATO troops on the ground which could very easily start a nuclear WW3 if one side makes a decisive breakthrough, or the losing side strikes a major city causing massive casualties.
I suspect the globalist warmongers would be happy with any of the 3 as long as they obtain more wealth and power while enjoying the show in their safe luxury havens.
I think Europe is also hoping the Ukraine doesn’t sign a trade deal with America, giving them 50% of pretty much everything, as that will make it a lot harder for the Ukraine to repay Europes war loans.
Probably true but tough cookies in more ways than one. Russia also sits on huge rare earth minerals in addition to their conquests in Easter Ukraine which hold about 40% ish of the deposits in what was pre Feb 22 Ukraine.
We need those minerals. Ukraine just rejected a deal to become an economic development partner with the USA to provide them to us. We still need them so we now have to look elsewhere to partnerships with other Nations to secure them.
I personally am happy with more space between Europe and the USA. Our young people are so jealous of European attitudes towards the work-life balance, wishing the /US were more likje Europe. They are too obtuse to realize there is a shortage of jobs in Europe! Many countries are scrapping to keep citizens busy while unemployed. I believe this is particularly true around the Mediterranean.). More successful northern countries, like Holland, are busy trying to dismantle their successful industries. (In Hollands’s case, food production.). The worst, in my judgment, is that socialism is an obvious reaction to an aristocracy … which we don’t have. We have no tradition of deferring to “bluebloods” (with the exception of slavery). An Engflishman will step aside for an aristocrat. We have always been egalitarian among ourselves. Drives me nuts when spoiled American college students become socialists!
Petty tin pot dictator didn’t have the good sense to keep his mouth shut and show a little gratitude. Decided to bite the hand that was offering him a lifeline. To hell with him, don’t give him another dime
Maybe Ukraine shouldn’t have elected a clown as its president. The best I can say for him is that he is a fool. You don’t come to a signing ceremony unless everything has been agreed to in advance. Zelenskyy thought that he could change the deal in real time by shaming the US into providing him with an unlimited supply of weapons. That is not going to work with Trump.
Ukraine didn’t elect him, any more than we elected Biden.
It was Nuland-driven Color Revolution from the word infrared.
This is why you first meet in PRIVATE.
Ukraine, full of minerals?
More like full of lead and other discarded heavy metals. I hear it is a huge dump that exists merely to hold the world together.
Such a worm
The Ukrainian borders were established by Lenin and Stalin to satisfy the needs to the Soviet Union. Now that the Soviet union has dissolved, its borders are a source of conflict. I see no reason for Western democracies to defend borders established by Lenin and Stalin particularly given the prick Zelensky. I thought that the mineral deal was a stroke of genius because it provided Ukraine with a de-facto guarantee without publicly obligating the US or committing NATO. In a year or two, the Ukrainian stockpiles of arms & ammunition will dry up and he will be in a worse negotiating position.
Every country’s borders were established by someone at some point. That’s totally irrelevant now. What is relevant is the officially recognized borders now.
And even those “officially recognised” borders get changed as and when required.
What’s truly relevant about borders is whether a Nation is both capable of and willing to defend their borders. Lines on a map are as irrelevant as the printed words on a treaty without those two things.
The point of departure between Ukraine and Russia was the uprising by Khmelnitsky who established a separate identity from Russia among the orthodox peasants and the Cossacks who have never identified themselves as Russia since then.
The American point of departure from England was over a century after the Khmelnitsky uprising.
A standard that says Ukrainians are Russians would also claim that Americans are British.
Zelensky has a handful of gimmes and a mouthful of much obliged.
Munich-2. Reminiscent of how Beneš was berated by Chamberlain for not wanting peace.
Zelensky needs to watch “My Cousin Vinnie”.
I can see why Biden apparently lost his shit with Zalensky.
The guy seems determined to keep killing Ukranians.
I suspect the media will be salivating over Zalenskys manly manliness and how you shoved the finder in The Man’s face…and all that will be happening as Ukrainians keep dying.
Seems the left is utterly determined to keep this war going at any cost. If only Ukranians were Palestinians 🙄
FAFO: Ukrainian MP Calls for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament IMPEACH President Zelensky After Oval Office Meltdown
He threw his country under the bus. And Zelensky has already faced intensified scrutiny over his handling of foreign relations, particularly regarding Ukraine’s ongoing conflict with Russia and its reliance on Western allies for military and financial support.
Whew boy- an awful lot of teeth being chipped on the ‘orange Harvey Weinstein’s’ zipper by the cult on this one!
PAthetic deplorables taking Russia’s side. SMH
Jeezus. Are YOU thick.
” I could shoot somebody on 5th avenue in broad daylight and these idiots would still vote for me”-Moron
” I could support Putin invading another country and these idiots would still say I’m awesome”- Moron
Sad , but true. Read the comments.
I’d say try harder, but something tells me you’ve given us max effort.
The interview was lame – particularly Vance – but the point was to establish disagreement for show to Putin and reduce Ukraine’s hopes. That moves them together and Trump gets to think up a side deal making stuff appealing to Putin, riding on that good feeling.
Actually Trump is negotiating the best deal for Ukraine.
Yeah, but we need some help from the Ukrainians to help them.
They’ll probably do away with Zelenski by morning.
Oh, what fun they had at that day of school…
We are OUT!!!
Beggars can’t be choosers.
What will Putin think when Trump causes the price of oil to fall? Some friend!
” Wait-I thought this war was was supposed to over already”-MAGA goober. ( LAFFFRIOT)
In point of fact the average MAGA voter doesn’t really give a hoot if two Eastern European Authoritarian Gov’ts fight each other. That’s part of the beauty of MAGA, it places the needs and benefits to average US Citizens above other concerns. This seems to be especially galling to the globalist grifters grown far too complacent in their dependency upon US taxpayer funding, US military, economic and diplomatic power to the point they believe they are automatically entitled to it despite their contempt for the USA and its Citizens. Zelensky’s asinine antics yesterday is good example of this phenomenon.
Ignore it. It doesn’t know how else to respond to all the winning.
Interesting how not one news outlet mentioned the fact that ‘the moron’ was impeached for essentially trying to bribe Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden. It’s like they’ve given up on trying to get through to the cult.
What ?
https://x.com/ksorbs/status/1896738375140602348