Tech Billionaire Tells Joe Rogan the Govt. Plan ‘to Control AI’ is Why He Left WH Meeting, Endorsed Trump
“They [Biden officials] said don’t even start startups – there’s just no way that they can succeed – there’s no way that we’re going to permit that to happen.”
Perhaps one of the most welcome surprises of the 2024 election cycle was the large number of Democrats and/or progressives who threw their support behind President-elect Donald Trump. The cumulative damage to the U.S. after four years of progressive rule, the deceitful way it had been implemented, and the speed with which it occurred, left even some lifelong Democrats disaffected. Silicon Valley venture capitalist Marc Andreessen was among this group.
During a Tuesday interview with podcaster Joe Rogan, Andreessen described the moment he decided to leave the Democratic Party. In the spring, he had participated in a series of White House meetings about the future of AI. Over the course of their discussions, Biden officials fleshed out “their plan to control AI through government regulatory capture.” Horrified by the administration’s intentions, Andreesen walked out and endorsed Trump.
What had left the tech billionaire so spooked? Andreessen explained:
The AI thing was very alarming. We had meetings this spring that were the most alarming meetings I’ve ever been in. Where they were taking us through their plans, and it was – basically just full government – full government control – like this sort of thing, there will be a small number of large companies that will be completely regulated and controlled by the government, they told us. They said don’t even start startups – there’s just no way that they can succeed – there’s no way that we’re going to permit that to happen.
Rogan gasped.
Andreessen continued, “They said that this is already over. It’s going to be two or three companies and we’re just gonna control them and that’s that. Like this is already finished.”
“When you leave a meeting like that, what do you do?” Rogan asked.
Andreessen smiled and said, “You go endorse Donald Trump!”
Biden’s administration laid it all out:
Only 2-3 AI companies would be allowed to exist.
Complete control over development. pic.twitter.com/HEz8pAWXq5
— Ben Averbook (@benaverbook) November 26, 2024
Andreessen also claimed that the Biden administration has “debanked” more than 30 tech startups, including crypto companies. Debanking means that a bank will suddenly close an individual’s or an organization’s account, or refuse to open an account for a new customer. This typically occurs when a person or an entity is seen as a risk “legally, financially, or to the bank’s reputation.” Under the current administration, debanking was used as a means of control.
The use of debanking as a control mechanism began under the Obama Administration, Andreessen noted. It was called “Operation Choke Point.” The administration started to debank “marijuana businesses, escort businesses and gun shops.”
According to Andreessen:
Just like you’re done. You’re out of the banking system.
So, if you’re running a marijuana dispensary in 2012, then, guess what, you’re doing your business all in cash. Because you literally can’t get a bank account. You can’t get a Visa terminal. You can’t process transactions. … You’ve been sanctioned. None of that stuff is available.
This administration [Biden] extended that concept to apply it to tech founders, crypto founders and just generally political opponents. That’s been like super pernicious.
Operation Choke Point 1.0 was 15 years ago against the pot and the guns. Choke Point 2.0 is primarily against their political enemies and then to their disfavored tech startups. … We’ve had like 30 tech founders debanked in the last four years. It’s been a big recurring pattern.
This is one of the reasons we ended up supporting Trump. We can’t live in this world. We can’t live in a world where somebody starts a company that’s a completely legal thing and they literally get sanctioned and embargoed through the United States government through a completely unaccountable [authority].
By the way, no due process. None of this is written down. There’s no rules. There’s no court. There’s no decision process. There’s no appeal. Who do you appeal to? Who do you go to to get your bank account back?
They’ve uncovered a new way to destroy companies:
30 tech founders were secretly debanked.
No warning. No explanation. No appeals.
Pure, silent government power. pic.twitter.com/iKPn9XmI82
— Ben Averbook (@benaverbook) November 26, 2024
As stories like Andreessen’s continue to mount, it’s become clear that the Democrats have but one goal: single-party rule in the U.S. And they are willing to do whatever it takes to achieve it. To that end, the Biden administration turned into a progressive propaganda machine, the likes of which we never imagined we’d see in our democratic republic.
With each new success, their confidence grew. If only they could install Vice President Kamala Harris in the White House, they would be there. With another four years, they could cement their fundamental transformation of the U.S.
Unfortunately for them, reality interfered.
Voters were offered two vastly different choices on Nov. 5.
Thankfully, the American people woke up in time and realized they were about to lose their country. Even Democrats like Andreessen.
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The pathetic part is that it took Andreesen until this spring to figure this out – and then only because some morons in Biden’s junta said it out loud?
The dems have been running on bringing communism to America for a long time and that all got kicked into hyperdrive with Barky and his band of Maoist retards. You would have to be a real moron not to have seen or noticed this by 2010. I mean … WTFFF?
I am wary of all these people who have only recently come to have a problem with the commies who have been running America and making a mockery of the idea of civil society for years. Only now they have managed to figure out something that anyone with a brain understood full well 15 years ago.
Just for sh*ts and giggles, what was Andreesen’s take on the Tea Party back in 2010 and the ensuing years? What were his thoughts when Barky was mangling the American government to force a takeover of national socialist health insurance (and an attendant takeover by that same mechanism of all the student loan business – YES, the national socialized healthcare was taking over the student loans!!)? I’ll bet Andreesen was all gung ho to destroy America for some commie BarkyCare.
Sure, let’s damn people for starting to pay attention. That’s how we’ll win friends and influence people.
The proper response is John McClane’s: “Welcome to the party, pal!”
It’s not a matter of damning; it’s a matter of trust.
There is much more to Andreesen’s political epiphany than he’s saying. I would like to know what he was really thinking when he let all this start to happen and did nothing – not only did nothing but continued to support the people who were doing it. It took him YEARS to figure this all out. You should be, at the least, curious as to why. Maybe he said so in the podcast? I haven’t had 3 hours to spend listening to it, yet, and when I listened to his own podcast with Horowitz when they first endorsed trump, neither of them made things very clear other than the Biden junta wanted to ban basic math, essentially (now, to be fair, what is basic math to normal people is esoteric, high-level super-duper mega-math to Biden and the retards around him) and to try to kill all cryptocurrency and that Trump was pro-bitcoin.
A person should be curious about all this and why now, all of a sudden, after 15 years of rapid, forced descent toward a communist hellhole?
Andreesen, in case anybody with a brain was paying attention, gave the dictionary definition of National Socialism: A few companies run by the government. And they called Trump Hitler! Yeah, projection big-time!
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There’s an old saying: “A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.” I get that he was likely a Tea Party opponent and all that, but people can learn, especially when they’re exposed to the full evil of what the Democrats want. Hell, Elon Musk meets that criteria.
We’re going to need to put aside this “I was right!” stuff if we want to see real change.
Let’s do it right AFTER we pound all the responsible blue heads into the nearest sidewalks. We must kick the can of reckoning down the road no longer.
It is very apparent that the beating of blueheads must happen, as they will not quit.
Did he actually learn anything, or was he merely repulsed by the personal effect of what they were doing? If there was no personal impact would he have made any objection?
Only very, very recently has it been safe for anyone with something to lose to come out against the regime. Elon, smartest man on the planet, only came out for Trump after the candidate got shot. Do you think Elon had a serious change of preference well before then? Of course. If your issue is trust, then reserve it for as long as you deem necessary. But even us agnostics, in the spirit of Christian charity, should welcome those into the fold whose scales have fallen from their eyes.
The trigger for Elon seems to have been when they went after his kid and convinced the boy that he was a girl. Elon initially went along with the whole farce but then started to realize how insane it was. Their reaction after he started changing his view on the transgender insanity is what led his political transformation.
Elon, also, has never addressed how it is that he went along with Barky (and was even a Barky and Shrillary supporter) and I think that most people are scared to even ask him, lest he change back or something. He might have spoken about this with Rogan … but I never listened to their whole podcast together.
Also, in Elon’s case he has made his transformation in more than just words. What he did with Twitter and releasing the Twitter files and all was important work. Not words, but real actions.
IMO it wasn’t so much that it took a while to figure out the d/prog were pushing all sorts of oddball policies. The real awakening comes when these guys realize that the d/prog ain’t just blowing smoke to get elected, that these loons are seriously intent on implementing the Cray Cray. When someone gains that perspective, that the d/prog are serious, that it isn’t just rhetoric or red meat to gin up political support then things get very clear, very quickly.
AI will pull a Bane. Do you feel like you’re in charge.
There are a are an overwhelming number of crimes which must be investigated and prosecuted. The good news is many will be repeat offenders,
As Dems are outed, will a time come when they collapse?
“basically just full government – full government control – like this sort of thing, there will be a small number of large companies that will be completely regulated and controlled by the government, they told us. They said don’t even start startups – there’s just no way that they can succeed – there’s no way that we’re going to permit that to happen.”
But… but… Trump’s a Fascist!
Corporatism, the cornerstone of fascism: “The economy was divided into associations (called ‘syndicates’) of workers, employers and the professions; only one syndicate was allowed in each branch of industry, and all officials were either fascist politicians or else loyal to the fascist cause. According to law the syndicates were autonomous, but in fact they were run by the state. The ‘corporations’ united the syndicates in a given industry, but made no pretence at autonomy from the state.”
Who is the reciprocal of John Galt? AI.
And the Muh Principles™️ crowd still pines for the good ol days.
De-Banking is more dangerous and pernicious than folks realize.
It’s yet another arrow in the quiver of Cancel Culture warriors.
I’m normally against most new regulations, but….
While we still control the WH and both legislature houses,
We need to seriously make it punishable to De-Bank individuals, groups, and companies not engaged in or supporting criminal or terrorist activities.
You should need judicial orders to execute them, not just a letter from some drone in some govt agency to the bank. The order needs to be appealable, with awards of damages+ if later overturned by another court. And if the bank themselves are (supposedly) the origin, they should also need to also get a judge to sign off on it, requiring more basis than the bank thinks a legal business is “icky”. Besides civil liability, there should be regulatory liability, any deposit insurance or other govt support should be curtailed for any sizable bank corporation that De-Banks on its own.
If some minuscule chain of (say) a dozen banks or credit unions wants to (say) De-Bank weed dispensories, or Gun manufacturors, or abortion clinics, let them. Just like cake decorators, a small business with moral qualms but no monopoly should have some leeway in freedom of association.
Yes some simple laws and regulations protecting lawful commerce are needed to protect against this practice. It has been a major disruptive force on the lives of people it’s been used against.
Debanking and civil asset forfeiture have been going on for years and is a recurring theme over at Reason. It’s nice that people are finally waking up to the problem.
Marc Andreesen and his business partner, Ben Horowitz, produced a video several months ago, in which they articulated multiple reasons — not all of them business-related or bitcoin-related — explaining why they both are supporting #47 and J.D. Vance. The video is worth watching, as well. These are two of the smartest and most respected guys in the venture capital/tech world, and, they make a rational and convincing case for why every sane entrepreneur and businessperson should be unabashedly and enthusiastically supporting Trump-Vance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_sNclEgQZQ
Of course, there is more than one basic business plan. People like Andreesen run the one where you put in hard work, add value to something, and prosper. There’s another one, run by people like Vineyard Wind, where you agitate and harass until “your side” gets control of the government, then you rake in craploads of government money to spend on the high life until people notice your s*t doesn’t work. Both types of entrepreneur are sane, it’s just that only one is honest.
Biden should resign on the morning of January 20, just for fun.
It could be arranged, if we knew the guy who runs his Twitter account.
Remember when we used to have archaic formal things like The Congressional Record, instead of modern, fast Twitter? Those were the days.
Debanking sounds a lot like prohibition – you know, forcing alcohol manufacture and sales underground, resulting in a thriving black market and a rise in organized crime.
I cannot imagine that things will go any differently in the long run.
Back when weed was “generally recognized as” illegal, for decades, all the money flow was underground, and it worked. Then states began “identifying themselves as” drug sanctuary zones, so people started up “legal” businesses and used actual banking. Then the feds retorted, “no, children, it’s still illegal” and debanked weed shops. Oh, the tears!
I can see a legitimate use for debanking in circumstances like these. But, of course, whenever you give government a power that CAN be abused, it WILL be abused. They also applied it to sexual businesses, which they have no power to regulate, and to legal gun sales, which they have a positive duty NOT to infringe.
Let me explain this. For all the people talking about the Tea Party, I guarantee that he hated, them, but that’s not the point.
He was shocked by the AI thing because he expected things to continue with the ‘normal’ process. As in, billionaires like him would all compete and ‘lobby’ and bribe and do all the ‘normal’ corruption to get advantages over each other to try and get the market.
And what the left told him was, ‘no, we’ve already picked the winners, you won’t be allowed to compete no matter how much you ‘lobby’, so just shut up and go home’.
He was shocked by the upending of the ‘normal’ corruption that he expected, and realized that the left has gone way, WAY too far with their nonsense and that they were actually going to DO the things they said, when he thought they were just lying for the cameras.