Trump GA Case: Nathan Wade Met With WH Counsel, Fani Willis Started Investigation Before She took Office
Wade also admitted he had to attend “RICO school” because he never handled a RICO case before.
The House Judiciary Committee released the transcript of Nathan Wade, the former special prosecutor in former President Donald Trump’s Georgia election case.
Wade removed himself from the case due to his romantic relationship with Fulton County DA Fani Willis.
There are a few interesting things Wade told Congress.
White House Counsel Meetings
Wade met with President Joe Biden’s administration a few times during the investigation. He took the panel that no one inside the White House ordered, pressured, or coerced him or anyone else to file charges against Trump.
However, the multiple meetings raise some questions, especially since Wade cannot remember anything about them.
In May 2022, Wade charged $250 for eight hours for a conference with White House counsel in Athens, GA.
The panel asked Wade if he met, discussed, or conferred with White House Counsel:
Q So I was asking if he remembered whether you would have had a paralegal, someone that was on your team, or an assistant reach out to schedule this conf with White House counsel?
A I don’t recall.
Q Okay. Do you remember who attended this conf with White House counsel?
A I don’t recall.
Q Is it safe to assume, since you billed for the conf with White House counsel, that you attended this conf with White House counsel?
A Yes.
Q Okay. Do you remember if it was in person or by telephone?
A I don’t recall.
Andrew Evans, Wade’s attorney, said his client cannot “remember the specific conversations because he doesn’t have the notes.”
Wade couldn’t remember his contact in the White House counsel’s office.
Another invoice showed “Interview with D.C./White House, November 18th, 2022. Eight hours at $250. Cost $2,000.”
For some reason, Wade couldn’t remember this meeting either.
Wade cannot remember anything, it seems.
Then we have an invoice from September 2022: “Witness interview; conf call D.C.; team meeting. Date completed September 7th, 2022, to September 9th, 2022. 24 hours at 250. Cost $6,000.”
So yeah. Wade cannot remember his contact in the White House counsel office,
Willis Started Investigation Before She Took Office
Willis became the DA on January 1, 2021.
Wade told Congress that Willis approached him about participating in a search committee after the November 2020 election:
Q And so the search committee, you said that began when DA Willis took office on January 1, 2021. Is that correct?
A Yes.
Q And was there outreach to you to be part of the search committee prior to January 1, 2021?
A Absolutely.
Q And when did that start?
A Sometime after the election, but prior to her taking office.
Q Okay. So between the election — and you’re referring to the November 2020 election. Is that correct?
A Yes, ma’am.
Wade couldn’t recall how many conversations he had with Willis before she hired him as special prosecutor, but they had many:
Q And so how many conversations, if you had to quantify, do you believe you had with DA Willis specifically prior to being hired as special prosecutor?
A I have no clue, ma’am.
Q Was it more than five, more than ten?
A I have no clue. It was a lot.
Q More than one?
A Absolutely.
Many conversations. Hold onto that thought because it ties into the next part.
RICO School
Wade also told Congress that he had never tried an RICO case before he took charge of Trump’s case.
“I absolutely — I absolutely did,” he told the panel. “I went to what you would — what I would call RICO school to learn about what it is, what it means, and how it works. It’s a very complicated legal concept, but the dubbed godfather of RICO, the gentleman who wrote the book.”
The gentleman is John Floyd.
Wade contacted Floyd because he taught “a RICO course.” The class was meant to teach Wade “to understand the contours of the law.”
If Wade had numerous interviews about the special prosecutor job, then surely Willis and others knew he had no experience, right?
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When they say they’re worried Trump is going to prosecute his enemies, the reason they’re worried is because that’s exactly how they behave. I honestly cannot believe what he’s describing doesn’t just violate prosecutorial ethics, but statutory law as well. Can a White House hold strategy meetings with partisan allies to determine the best way forward against political enemies without violating the law? Apparently so…and if that’s true, the Dems should worry because payback is coming.
If Trump tries to do what the Dems did to him, they’ll impeach him. That’s what they did with the phone call to Zelenskyy. Biden had called Zelenskyy and told him he’d hold up military aid unless they fired the investigator who was looking into Hunter’s company (Burisma). Biden even bragged about that phone call. So Trump asked Zelinskyy to look into whether the Bidens did something illegal, and the Dems impeached him for that.
One thing Trump needs to do (and Biden did) is to replace all of the deep state holdovers in every department of the government. He didn’t do that last time, and he ended up with a bunch of disloyal people working against him.
Only if they take the House. So make sure they don’t.
Also, impeachment is getting old. The Dems did that deliberately, in order to retroactively take the stain off Clinton, who actually committed an actual crime.
It was also done to try and tie Trump up so he couldn’t get things done.
Not only the House, but a strong 2/3 majority of anti-Trump folks in the Senate. It’s a pretty high bar.
This is why (if he’s fortunate enough to win), he needs to nominate political appointees who are faithful scalp-takers, not pushovers like Jeff Sessions and Bob Barr. He needs to surround himself and put people in the powerful NatSec/Law Enforcement agencies who are fellow-travelers hell-bent on settling scores.
Yes, the term ‘scorched earth’ come to mind.
I don’t think we need, or want, people seeking to settle scores. I’d rather see a Trump administration upholding the highest moral standards while eliminating as much of the deep-state, left-wing rot as possible. He needs committed conservatives who are extremely intelligent, principled, and ready to fight.
Please explain how you’ll do the latter without the former…
I don’t think we need, or want, people seeking to settle scores. I’d rather see a Trump administration upholding the highest moral standards while eliminating as much of the deep-state, left-wing rot as possible. He needs committed conservatives who are extremely intelligent, principled, and ready to fight.
Stevewhitemd, you’ve asked a great question. I think the difference is one of intention more than likely results. We don’t want to lower ourselves to seeking revenge. Rather, we should show our countrymen that we value and strive for honest, transparent government and are focusing on the nation’s future. To accomplish this goal, many people who undercut these goals during the Obama and Biden administrations will be removed from office and, hopefully, will be revealed by the press (Fox, The Post, WSJ, and several others). I don’t rule out prosecution of one or more people who have clearly violated federal law.
Can you define what constitutes ‘settling scores’. Would revoking security clearance of the 51 Former IC folks who signed off on the bogus letter count? If so you are either naive or deliberately obtuse.
Any Federal employee from janitor to SR Executive Service that impedes the implementation of incoming Trump policies or that impeded in the 1st term should be reassigned to Ice Station Zebra in the Arctic. They can resign instead of transferring. Either way they won’t be in a position to roadblock.
Agree completely
He’s just repeating his testimony from the Georgia court’s hearing about his affair with Fat Fanny. … The one where Fat Fanny said that she wouldn’t testify but then, obviously, listened to others’ testimony and changed her mind and came storming back into the court just to take the stand and lie about pretty much everything. But, in his testimony, there, Nathan Wade attempted to claim that the had the worst memory of any human not categorized as an Idiot. And they let both he and Fat Fanny get away with their blatant contempt for the court and their obvious contempt for the concept of the Rule of Law.
This is all so pathetic. Everyone knows how guilty these slugs are and everyone knows that this all came straight from the White House, too – all of it. And yet, the only one who is under threat of punishment and gag orders and all manner of the abusive powers of corrupt politicians is their target. And it just goes on …
This is infuriating.
There was some other high ranking Democrat who, when she testified, used that phrase “I don’t recall”….. Seems to be a trend.
So did Reagan. It’s a common thing.
Gorilla Grip Fanni has ahold of Nate’s hanging Chad’s so he’s singing Soprano to her bass…
What do you expect when the animals are allowed to run the zoo?
Her brain was jello…..
Agree completely
lets see how the courts handle the case in nyc where the heroic efforts of a marine to stop another street trooper from fundamentally changing america, goes
this case is analogous to what djt is having to go through
being attacked by puppets on the left who want america to continue its path towards commuism>>>>tribalism >>>blmplo rule
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Well we are dealing with communists. They hide behind the prog label.
Ole Nate, who knew he was a Family Circus fan?
Ida Know was his favorite character.
Has anyone ever been prosecuted for perjury because of the ‘I don’t remember’ excuse?
How do you prove that he does remember?
The criterion is only “beyond a reasonable doubt”, which is obviously true in this case and many others.It’s clear that he’s lying and any reasonable person knows it.
There must be evidence capable of persuading a properly-instructed jury beyond reasonable doubt. They can’t just say they’re so convinced, the evidence must objectively be sufficient for it. In the absence of telepathy, what evidence could be brought for what someone truly remembers?
The evidence is the context and what reasonable people know about memories and recollections. “Properly-instructed jury” … LOL. If people believe BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that he is lying when he claims to not remember his name or his age or who his mother is or any other stuff that he is obviously lying about then they are to convict him.
No one has any doubt, at all, that Nathan Wade is lying out of his a** here. You don’t. I don’t. No one does. And this is all in his commission of one of the most heinous crimes in American history – the despicable and singularly dangerous abuse of governmental power in an attempt to basically wrest control of the US government for the communist democrats. There are not many crimes in America that compare with this … but you are stuck some ridiculous idea that normal, reasonable people can’t see the obvious fact that Nathan Wade is lying to Congress like crazy – just as he did in his testimony in Georgia. No one with a brain has any questions about his guilt. And we won’t even get into the ridiculous stories he told about how his phone was pinging around Fat Fanny’s apartment at 3am but he wasn’t knocking boots there with her … It’s laughable.
I know this is true, but we see juries convicting without facts all the time now. Pure emotion. It gets old. I am not saying you’re wrong, but, goodness. Any person knows he is lying. It is a strange world when the lie is clear, but the remedy is barred.
Stephenwinburn, if there is no evidence in the record on which a jury could find guilt beyond reasonable doubt, then the judge is supposed not to let it through to the jury. If he does let it through and they convict, but he believes the evidence is insufficient to support such a verdict, he is required to override the jury and acquit.
My sense (unresearched) is that conviction for perjury for falsely claiming to not remember can be achieved only by charging the person with perjury, somehow getting the defendant to take the stand, and persuading the jury to convict. Under those circumstances, the prosecution, on appeal, can rely on the factual findings of the jury that directly observed the testimony and found it untruthful. Among the obstacles to successfully carrying out this plan are (1) overcoming pretrial objections to pulling the defendant into court and (2) getting the defendant to take the stand. Given all that, I think it’s unlikely that an obvious perjurer claiming lack of memory will be convicted of perjury unless he is represented by an inept lawyer.
Lying about not remembering events tath one obviously remembers to some extent is a double abuse of the law since a person already has the right to not testify to anything by the 5th amendment. To forgo one’s 5th amendment right and lie, instead, is an active attempt to deceive the court two ways.
All this talk from people of “evidence” is silly. As I wrote before, the context is the evidence. People know what sorts of things people do in the normal course of their work and the sorts of things they remember in the normal course of their work and the sorts of things they would have to be able to remember to carry out this work. Nathan Wade’s particular lies of “I don’t recall” are especially transparent and egregious.
Try out a competency hearing. Clearly someone who can’t remember broad strokes about events may be in need of medical/psychiatric intervention. /S?
Failure to remember is not going to be grounds for perjury. There are more likely to be fraud or conspiracy charges, or something like that, stemming from the invoices and timeline.
Scary scary sh!t
51 MILLION in America, illegals (probably 35miion) and immigrants
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/21/kamala-harris-plan-imports-more-diversity-migrants-american-towns/
These two will become sacrificial lambs after Trump is reelected. The hubris. They think they are big dogs. They will be sold out by the Washington insiders.
I don’t recall worked for Hillary. You can’t prosecute someone for not remembering something. Why he has such a faulty memory involving nearly $10,000 is a question, though. That clown met with people in the WH, for the first time in his life he was talking to people from the WH and he doesn’t remember who they were? Sure, sure you don’t.
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What kind of lawyer charges $31.25 an hour?
WTH, “you can’t reply to unapproved comments”?! Akismet acting up, or what? Anyway, this is a reply to my own comment above:
Oh. That quote “In May 2022, Wade charged $250 for eight hours” is wrong; it should read “$250 an hour for eight hours”.
These people are utterly despicable and have no understanding of ethics or morals. They twisted the law they have sworn fidelity to. I’m sure they will play the race card (from the bottom of the deck) because it’s all they have left. President Trump should go after them with all he has after he gets sworn in on 1/20. I would be greatly disappointed in him if he doesn’t. Anyone involved in these lawfare cases should be disbarred and imprisoned after their due process rights have been completed. Fanny and Nathan are total scumbags. I would hope the voters in Georgia make their opinion of this crap known loud and clear this cycle. If they can do it to an ex POTUS, they can do it anyone….
The voters of Fulton County Georgia are predominately a certain kind of way…. the kind that votes in a DA because she’s the daughter of a Marxist Black Panther leader….. don’t expect much from Fulton County….
This is clearly perjury. They need to start charging people for claiming they don’t recall on key questions. They may not know exactly what they said or heard, but they know the rudiments. They should be expected to answer, even if qualified.
Nathan don’t know nuff’n bouts prosecut’n Rico. He donts remember ever meeting the gentleman.
Sounds to me it’s a conspiracy to deprive Trump of his freedom, namely:
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States{,} – USC 18 241
Hopefully Trump this time around will appoint an AG that is not polite.
(Fun fact: this is one of the charges Smith brought against Trump in the DC case)
So it seems that the County Auditor should be prosecuting Wade for fraudulent billing. He claims to remember nothing about the meeting, who he met with on behalf of the court and kept no notes. Hallmarks of fraudulent billing.
I think the county auditor will be keeping his head down on this one. Consider a question: Did Wade submit expense reports to the county? With receipts? Showing the exact time the Uber/Taxi dropped him off or picked him up at the meeting he had with White House Counsel, which he seems to have blanked out on? Now compare the same receipts against members of the Counsel office and see what intersects.
Wade and his defense spent an extraordinary amount of time avoiding any questioning on this regard. Consider the precedent the current POTUS sat on Executive Priv and how it could be waived for the members of the Counsel office who met with Wade. Engaging in a little criminal conspiracy to affect a federal election, are we? There’s an office that needs an enema audit, from back to front, and special attention paid to reimbursables. I’m willing to bet they’re running shredders just as fast as they can now.
The investigation was a campaign promise.
No further proof of a politically motivated prosecution is required!
Why would anyone think that people who are such failures at governance would be successful at hiding their corruption?