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Kamala’s Condescending and Mocking Debate Faces May Be What Voters Remember

Kamala’s Condescending and Mocking Debate Faces May Be What Voters Remember

Democrats were “thrilled with her facial expressions, thrilled with how she mocked him visually while he was talking, and that was deliberate. There’s no question that was deliberate—that was part of their plan. I just don’t know how that’s going to play. I don’t think it’s going to play well.”

My “Hot Take” on the September 10, 2024, Debate.

TRANSCRIPT (auto-generated, may contain transcription errors)

This is my hot take on the debate that took place last night, September 10, 2024.

It’s not exactly “hot” because it took place last night, but I’ve got to tell you, I didn’t feel like doing it right after. I was so frustrated I almost threw things at the TV. I think a lot of you probably felt the same way.

I felt frustration like I do at every debate that takes place with the mainstream media as moderators. This was particularly atrocious—there’s no doubt about that.

Why do Republicans keep going back to their abusers? I think we need a psychological profile, but it’s expected. It’s the norm. This was particularly bad, and it stood in huge contrast to the legitimate job that CNN did back in June for the first debate, but that’s beside the point. We can’t worry about the moderators, though our anger is legitimate—it’s just not enough, because it’s to be expected.

The other frustration I had was that this was an enormous missed opportunity to show the world, to show tens of millions of people—I don’t know what the final numbers were across all platforms, but clearly in the multiple tens of millions—what a fraud Kamala Harris is. How she’s flip-flopped, how she’s changed her positions, how there’s really nothing to her career.

And it didn’t come across. The case was not made, and that was extremely frustrating to watch.

So, it’s not surprising that the snap polling, including by groups that conservatives trust, like Trafalgar, is showing that Harris “won” the debate. And I think that’s true. She was more polished, more prepared; she had her canned barbs. But there’s something strange going on here. While she won the debate, Democrats always come across in snap polling as winning the debates. I saw people sharing on X the history of snap polling after debates with Donald Trump, first with Hillary and then with Biden. In every one of those debates—six in total—clear majorities said that Trump lost the debate. I’m not sure what to read into that.

So, it was anger at the moderators, frustration that Trump wasn’t making a lot of the points I thought he could have made, but he was being Trump. And I’ve misjudged his appeal to voters and his electoral success so many times, so it is what it is.

But there’s something else I took away from this—and it’s showing on the screen just to the side of me here. One thing I really noticed throughout was the faces that Harris was making—very condescending, very mocking, very childish, actually. I think that’s the one thing I remember more than anything about the debate.

Now, I think Trump did a very good job, even though he didn’t make the points I thought he could have, like showing how she flip-flopped. He hit hard on the border and the economy, and I think that may have a lasting impact.

What’s showing up in the focus groups—ones I’ve seen not by right-wing groups, but CNN, Reuters, NBC—there seems to be a disconnect between who they think won the debate and how they’re reacting substantively.

Trafalgar was consistent with the others, showing a 15-point win for Harris in terms of who won the debate, but no movement in who people were going to vote for. CNN was interesting—they had an even larger, 20-plus-point win for Harris, but found that on the key issue—voters’ most important issue—the economy, Trump actually improved over pre-debate polling. Similar findings came from Reuters and NBC.

Whatever went wrong here, whatever our frustrations are, it’s not clear how it’s going to impact the electorate.

It’s still a missed opportunity, and that’s what I keep coming back to. I don’t think anyone who’s going to vote for Donald Trump will change their mind because of this, and frankly, I don’t think anyone who’s going to vote for Kamala Harris will either. But it’s not clear this moved the election or made a big result.

Now, I’ve seen people like Frank Luntz saying this cost him the election, but I think it’s too early to say that. It may have, or it may not. But what should have happened is she should’ve had a collapse—maybe not as big as Biden, but no damage was really done to her in terms of polling. That’s frustrating because this was an opportunity to show the country who she really is.

So, my hot take—though it’s not so hot, as things have cooled off—is that Trump was Trump. He seems to have resonated with voters focusing on the economy and made gains there. He didn’t score the points he could have and should have scored.

Harris was smug—your typical smug liberal. I see it all over X and elsewhere: They’re thrilled with her facial expressions, thrilled with how she mocked him visually while he was talking, and that was deliberate. There’s no question that was deliberate—that was part of their plan.

I just don’t know how that’s going to play. I don’t think it’s going to play well. I don’t think anybody’s coming out of this feeling warm and fuzzy about Kamala Harris. If her goal was to raise her stature, I don’t think she accomplished that.

I don’t think she did damage to Trump. After everything that’s been said about Trump in the last 10 years, it’s hard to imagine anyone doing damage at this point. People who are going to vote for him will vote for him.

But I think she missed an opportunity as well. She needed to elevate herself, and a lot of the focus group comments I’ve seen said she didn’t convince them she would do anything different.

One thing I will give Trump 100% credit for was his closing two minutes, where he hit on the theme that if she’s going to do all these things, why hasn’t she done them in the last three and a half years?

Very frustrating night—practically throwing things at the computer. I won’t say the TV because I don’t have a TV anymore, but throwing things at the computer. A lot of frustration with the moderators—they manipulate our elections every time. Can we stop going back for more abuse? Can we make that pledge, at least?

That’s how I come away from it. My hot take is I’m not sure how this moved the election, but it was a missed opportunity to deal a deep blow to the Harris campaign.

Now we move on. There are almost two months left, and we’ll see if the trends, which were moving toward Trump, continue or reverse.

All around, if I had to put a single word to what happened last night, it would be: frustration.

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Comments

kamala is a RBF.

Sometimes it seems like she is only running to get her base behind her, rather than abandon her as they were willing to do, and knowing it’s futile to get others to support her.

Pure speculation, but she seems like a turn-off to so many that are not soley motivated by their TDS, living in a world untethered to reality, including the Cheneys and Kinzingers.

I tend to agree with Luntz. IMO people are looking at the trees and ignoring the forest – which is that Harris successfully went 12 rounds with Trump. This made it OK to vote for her, rather than not voting for either, or possibly voting for Trump. “He was President and she did just as well in the debate and I would like someone younger.” I think this kind of effect is subtle and will not show up for a while.

    Conversely, what may not show for awhile is how empty she is without the performance, which will become old as she is more exposed. Someone younger is fine, but not someone that lacks the capacity of sound judgment, and who has misled and will continue to do so, on one policy after another. One can only hope that truth will take hold. The system is so rotten that it seems impossible most people don’t know, even if the perception presented is Orwellian and there is a chill in the air.

      That’s why Trump and Vance (and everyone in their camp) need to hammer the fact that while her positions have allegedly flip-flopped, she herself has said her values haven’t changed. The same values she has had forever. Thus, Bernie was right. She’s lying to try to get elected.

    Paul in reply to jb4. | September 11, 2024 at 11:23 pm

    Lol, no. She did one softball ‘interview’ and had to bring her emotional support white man. Then she needed

Al Gore acted similarly in 2000. He rolled his eyes and made faces at Bush. It didn’t work for him, except with people who were already Bush-haters. He came across as basically a jerk. I can’t say it lost him the election. There were lots of other things involved in that. But it didn’t help.

Remember Biden emote laughing at Paul Ryan throughout the VP debate? Last night was that – and Harris is far better at emoting than Biden. Biden is a one-trick emoticon pony.

Harris is an emoticon junk pitcher;

“Junk affects the movement of the ball. The higher the pitcher’s junk, the more the curve ball will curve, the more the slider will slide, etc.”

Harris threw everything at Trump. It matters.

Question: What sort of people (age/sex) use emoticons both literal (social life) and figurative (social media)?

Her base is based in base humor.
When you can’t win, mock.

Normal people without closed minds may see this as “journofare” much like lawfare, and it will have the opposite effect.

The more they will try to sove her down peoples’ throats, the more people may reject them, especially as Trump speaks to their concerns, in his own way. And they can see, despite him being himself, sui generis, he is with them for better or worse.

The people who are so “f-ing” stupid and ill informed that they cannot readily apprehend what a total, heaping piece of “sh-t” she is are the very ones who find her facial expressions and inane patter thrilling. No exposes will be heeded by this crowd whose composition must not be mentioned.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | September 11, 2024 at 10:15 pm

Kamala’s Condescending and Mocking Debate Faces May Be What Voters Remember

Kamala ws really auditioning for a job as one of the new-type sign language people, who all seem to be totally unhinged nutcases, though thankfully silent.

The professor wrote: “This was particularly bad, and it stood in huge contrast to the legitimate job that CNN did back in June for the first debate,…” I think it is incorrect to believe CNN ran a legitimate debate with Biden. Rather, I believe the first debate was legitimately run because its purpose was to throw Joe Biden over the side. Simply having a fair debate run in the month of June was enough to show the world what a shell of a man Biden is, while giving enough time to line up a replacement. Once Biden was gone, the media went back to their old games.

    PrincetonAl in reply to CV60. | September 11, 2024 at 11:11 pm

    100% accurate … 💯

    Evil Otto in reply to CV60. | September 12, 2024 at 7:08 am

    Exactly right. I’ve heard conservative commenters go on about how fair CNN was. They only were because they wanted Biden gone… and now he is.

    Dimsdale in reply to CV60. | September 12, 2024 at 10:23 am

    Relatively speaking, the CNN “debate” was fair…

      tbonesays in reply to Dimsdale. | September 12, 2024 at 5:01 pm

      ABC heeded left wing complaints that CNN did not ‘fact check’ Trump by instant searching and replying with talking points.

        Consider they had contacted the city manager about the” cats”, they had to do that before the show started so they could lay the trap for Trump. I suspect they had done their “research” long before the start of the show and were prepared to “fact check” (regardless of accuracy) Trump.

I watched most of the debate with frequent breaks to throw up (just kidding). Trump came across to me worse than expected, and Harris better. But that’s one man’s opinion, others might differ. I think Harris got the questions in advance, and had real time assistance with a wireless earpiece. This technology is now available to anyone. The Secret Service uses it. The earpiece is inserted into the ear canal and removed with a magnet. Only detectable with an otoscope. Couple this with obvious help from the moderators, and no wonder Harris had a smoother performance. How much all this will affect the election outcome, I don’t know. I suspect very little compared to cheating. Ignore Luntz. He can’t predict any better than any of us. As Yogi Berra once said: “It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.”

    Tiki in reply to oden. | September 12, 2024 at 1:04 am

    She was wearing nova.audioearrings that look like pearl earrings.

    Screenshot from last night and the nova earbuds.

    https://x.com/merissahansen17/status/1833678967133593781

      DaveGinOly in reply to Tiki. | September 12, 2024 at 2:21 am

      Someone on X showed that nearly identical earrings are sold by Tiffany. But what are the chances that Harris, participating in an event during which live coaching could give her much-needed assistance, decided to go with jewelry different from her usual Tiffany pearl earrings to a set that just happened to look like the secret squirrel earrings from Nova?

It was a “Who is Kamala?” debate, which mostly they were determined not to show anybody. So the only clues were details.

Fakala Harris.

As narcissistic, smug, inauthentic, phony and elitist a Dhimmi-crat poser as can possibly be.

Cosplaying as allegedly “middle class.” It’s an offensive and contemptible type of hustling and theatrics.

Usually each time she smirked like that Trump was detailing how bad things have gotten under Biden/Harris. She claims it’s a campaign of joy but under a campaign of contempt when she smirks like that. Contempt for the economic suffering we are going through and the global chaos they’ve caused. She looks that way at Trump but that’s a look at all Americans.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | September 11, 2024 at 10:47 pm

Professor, don’t get so frustrated. Trump took the debate with ABC for the same reason that he took the CNN debate with Traitor Joe and all the (then) unusual rules and early date – because he had to. If he had not then Joe would have totally ducked out of debates and if Trump had not gone along with this one then Komrade Kamala would have ducked out on any debates and, in both cases, they would have tried (yes, just “tried”) to blame Trump, for which the DNC propaganda MSM would have been happy to amplify and support.

Trump took this debate knowing what he was getting himself into. He did perfectly fine, anyway. Komrade Kamala did better than expectations that she would walk out there, break down into laughing hysterics, throw up on herself and then be carted away … but not by much. As you point out, the blocking they (Hollywood) choreographed for Komrade Kamala is not going to play with anyone with a brain.

I also have to add one very physical comment about Kamala … she has really beady little eyes that are not particularly warming. As Quint said,

The thing about Kamala, she’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When she comes at you she doesn’t seem to be livin’… until she bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.

I get your frustration Professor but the X polls showed Trump winning BIGELY, so I don’t know

And they had Hillary winning all debates, and Biden and no, Biden did not win.

81 million votes my a$$

He’s not a debate guy

Do I wish he would have done more, yes, but he tired and he wasnt allowed to directly ask Harris questions if you remember, he had to ask the moderators first and they absolutely ignored him.

They let her lie and lie and lie
And interrupted him almost every single time.

So a debate champion he’s not, but he’s our champion and we need him.

So let’s all go out and fight for him

For God sakes he took a bullet for us and you wouldn’t even know it from the media.

They are just sorry he didn’t die.

And by the way, I said last night that Haitians eating cats and dogs would be the theme of the day and it is

And if you remember, she crackled loudly when he said it

People remember that.

It’s everywhere

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11

NEW—Our
@FrontlinesTPUSA
team visited Springfield, OH today. EVERYONE they spoke to has heard stories of people’s pets being eaten as well as ducks and geese disappearing.

Residents describe it as a “tinderbox” and a “time bomb” ready to go off.

Video linked…

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1833655909593276444

    All of these guys reporting this need to credit the sleuth that first spotted those earrings.

    I think it was katekozuch on Instagram. Credit where credit is due.

I wonder how many “undecided” voters there are. Most people I talk to already know who they are voting for. Do these debates really swing that many votes?

I do wish Trump would focus on true impact illegal immigration has on citizens financially, such as identity theft, financial theft, retail theft, Any banking institution would vouch for the financial theft and identity theft. Many companies that hire illegals will testify they are being defrauded. It is also in the retirement industry and negatively affects Social Security.

    ChrisPeters in reply to Reader45. | September 12, 2024 at 1:03 am

    Don’t forget the burden on schools and hospitals, the sex crimes, the drugs, etc.

    nordic prince in reply to Reader45. | September 12, 2024 at 8:59 am

    One of the residents in Ohio said his car insurance has gone up dramatically because of where he lives – he said the Haitians don’t know how to drive and are getting into accidents, and the insurance companies are using that to raise premiums.

      The Dhimmi-crat media organs claim that there are no Haitian illegal aliens in Ohio. And, if there were, they most certainly would not be killing and eating geese and ducks for food and voodoo rituals.

      Obviously, the leftist media always speaks truth.

Ann Coulter has a related article over at Breitbart:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/11/ann-coulter-the-debate-about-the-debate/
Some interesting research has been done that showed the pundits don’t really understand how and why people react the way they do to presidential debates.

Republicans outside of Uniparty Rhino’s like Cheney are voting for Trump
Progressives and no nothings are voting for Harris.
The real effect of the debate was on the Independents who overwhelmingly preferred Trump over Harris in the polls.

    CommoChief in reply to diver64. | September 12, 2024 at 6:57 am

    Yep. Truth is most folks are already on Team Red or Team Blue and this debate didn’t change much. The audience that matters is the small % who had yet to make up their minds. May

      CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | September 12, 2024 at 7:04 am

      Maybe that is 15% at the very most, probably it is in the high single digits. Those are folks who didn’t care for the smug condescending Karen performance from Harris and the biased interjection of the ‘moderators’ who jumped in offering FALSE info to ‘fact check’ DJT but allowed Harris to get away with all sorts of falsehoods which are well known.

      TV and internet where the clips will run especially the split screen comparisons on Harris flip flops and moderators getting it wrong are VISUAL mediums. The clips gonna be spliced up and running with all sorts of platforms and content creators some with over a million + subscribers.

      tbonesays in reply to CommoChief. | September 12, 2024 at 5:05 pm

      It can affect team turnout. If Trump had agreed to only one debate with Biden in September and it turned out the same way, Trump would have a commanding lead due to D apathy.

The thing that struck me was that despite the media puking up Democrat talking points about how much “joy” she’s spreading, she came off as the exact opposite of joyful. She did that hand under the chin move multiple times and each time it screamed smug and condescending. The whole marketing campaign to sell her is fraudulent.

Professor, I 100% agree with your “take” and most of my friends do as well.
Frustration and a missed huge opportunity. I saw what many of these commenters saw as well–the smirking and condescending carefully orchestrated performance by the crown princess. Her handlers must be ecstatic.
In my opinion, what we saw here was an evil little girl and her two friends gleefully torturing an old service dog. That won’t play well in the heartland.

I have no idea how this debate is going to impact the final results, or even if there’s any material impact at all. But, a non-scientific survey of my children (all in their 20s), tell me that there little social media engagement on this debate in the <30 crowd in the non-twitter social media platforms. The only clip any of my kids saw shared was the final few minutes of Trump saying to Harris, 'Why haven't you done it for the last 3.5-year?'

destroycommunism | September 12, 2024 at 11:56 am

they love her 3rd grade appeal

MoTown. In their self-produced documentary they showed the etiquette expert that Berry Gordy brought in to train all of those wonderful singing trios such as The Supremes.

Her initial comment ‘Why are they making faces?’