Post Debate Biden’s Support Among Women “actually ticked up slightly” – Siena/NYT
I do understand why Trump would be stronger among men. But what I can’t understand is how support among women could increase, or even hold steady, after that debate. Come on, man.
It’s just one poll, but anyway, the findings are interesting. The Siena / NY Times poll showed Trump’s lead increasing overall.
Donald J. Trump’s lead in the 2024 presidential race has widened after President Biden’s fumbling debate performance last week, as concerns that Mr. Biden is too old to govern effectively rose to new heights among Democrats and independent voters, a new poll from The New York Times and Siena College showed.
Mr. Trump now leads Mr. Biden 49 percent to 43 percent among likely voters nationally, a three-point swing toward the Republican from just a week earlier, before the debate. It is the largest lead Mr. Trump has recorded in a Times/Siena poll since 2015. Mr. Trump leads by even more among registered voters, 49 percent to 41 percent.
Doubts about Mr. Biden’s age and acuity are widespread and growing. A majority of every demographic, geographic and ideological group in the poll — including Black voters and those who said they will still be voting for him — believe Mr. Biden, 81, is too old to be effective.
Overall, 74 percent of voters view him as too old for the job, up five percentage points since the debate. Concerns about Mr. Biden’s age have spiked eight percentage points among Democrats in the week since the debate, to 59 percent. The share of independent voters who said they felt that way rose to 79 percent, nearly matching the Republican view of the president.
The Siena/NYT findings are consistent with other post-debate polls that show Trump increasing his lead after the debate.
This could end up being a Battle of the Sexes election, with Trump surging among men, while women are still “riding with Biden”:
One of the more interesting findings in the poll was that men accounted for virtually all of Mr. Trump’s post-debate gains….
In the pre-debate poll, Mr. Trump had led among likely male voters by 12 percentage points. After the debate, his lead among men ballooned to 23 points. That movement was particularly concentrated among younger men and men without college degrees.
Mr. Biden’s five-point edge among likely women voters before the debate actually ticked up slightly, to eight points.
This tweet by Ryan Girdusky highlights the yawning gender gap between men and women:
Dudes rule @ComfortablySmug
— Bobby Billy (@bobbyjoeybilly) July 3, 2024
I do understand why Trump would be stronger among men. But what I can’t understand is how support among women could increase, or even hold steady, after that debate. Come on, man.
Please try to explain it to me, without using the word “Karen”.
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when you say women………
Just… stop.
I have noticed that many women hate Trump on a personal level. They bypass his platform because the hate the person.
Many of these ladies voted for the Horrific Clinton…. Go figure
This is what I have heard from the women in my family. I don’t like Trump!
I am voting for Biden because Trump is (insert adjective here)!
When I ask about policies the most cognizant answer I have gotten was; “If he (Trump) is bad then his policies are bad!”
As far as why the uptick in support for Biden, I would put my money on; “Oh that poor little old man! Trump is just being mean to him!” Just how we are built, women are going to sympathize more than men.
by nature women are socialists so its no surprise
they keep getting the unfair advantages in the name of equality via the courts etc
Do you have to write L and R on the toes of your shoes?
His shift key doesn’t work, and neither do his period and comma keys.
Women. What can you do?
Women vote on a balance of feelings in the air. Men vote on structural stability.
Chief point for women is whether the guy seems to mean well.
“Structural stability”? The phrasing doesn’t quite make it with me. I’m more inclined to find men are more interested in WHAT WORKS. Charity to every lay-about doesn’t WORK.
As the resident intellectual (he reads Jacques Derrida in case you weren’t aware) it’s required for him to craft every sentence with wording similar to the kid in the freshman seminar sucking up to the professor.
Most liberal women want an emasculated man. A feeble Biden is the perfect type of man that liberal women can control. Also, now they can complain because the doddering fool doesn’t “do anything around the house!”
They can also relate to the guy who will give them loads of cash. Uncle Joe is the perfect sugar daddy.
Conservative women are the best!.
correct
Why do I find it likely any woman you’ve attempted to talk to intimately had the restraining order filed within hours.
Liberal women think strong, conservative men are toxic. That is before they need to be rescued when in a fire, attacked by criminals, or in any other dangerous situation. Then they love toxic men!
Women are by nature more caring/nurturing/supportive? They see an ailing person and do not react with “We have to get rid of him”? That is the most charitable I can be without trashing the 19th Amendment. IMO someone whom THEY claim is only 100% from 10AM to 4PM, not counting afternoon naps, might make the grade as a part-time Walmart greeter, but not POTUS.
As a woman, I find other women indulge their feelings far too much in politics. Repeal the — which amendment is it? Repeal it!!!
I would gladly give up my vote if I could deprive millions of leftist, shrieking harpies, the right to vote.
That would include the million screaming soy boys
Oh, if only…!
I’m a woman and I agree. But it might work just as well to deny voting rights to those who don’t pay any taxes, or are on public assistance.
I believe Biden was +15 with women in 2020. He actually did better with women in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016, which is odd. Still. +7 is WAY worse than Clinton’s result in 2016. If Trump only loses women by 7-points, it’s going to be a very, very good night for Republicans.
Also, a real AP headline tonight: “Biden at 81: Sharp and focused but sometimes confused and forgetful”
Democrats are in such chaos, even the media doesn’t know what to do.
Clinton, H., is such a harridan, who could WANT to vote for her?!
Other harridans. See: Joy Reid, Whoopi Goldberg, Barbra Streisand.
Hillary’s main issue is that she honestly believes that she is just as likable, affable, charismatic , and talented as Bill. She has thought that since she was the First Lady of Arkansas. The problem being that (imho) she is the most unlikeable, nasty, and mean spirited person I have ever had the misfortune of meeting. I was at the Governors Table for some science thing I got in highschool and was seated only two people down from the couple Bill was…..well he was Bill Clinton, she was sullen and snappish anytime anyone spoke to her and made it clear we were wasting her precious time. I have met the couple twice since then and got the same impression each time.
As far as talented, Bill Clinton is (imho) the most talented politician on earth, he is the old south shaking hands and kissing babies politician, plus he has a nearly photographic memory for names and faces. (I was 15 at the science dinner, when I met them at 18 and 25 he still remembered my name without being reminded.) Hillary doesn’t have even 1% of his talent. She has always been jealous of Bill and when he was Governor he made several speeches where they didn’t do a really good job of covering up the black eye he had from one of her tantrums.
2024 is a turnout battle. If women are D+7, and men are R+27, Trump can still lose if female turnout goes through the roof. One thing the Democrats are good at is their superb GOTV machine.
have you seen the claim that Biden performed poorly due to being continuously hit by a microwave weapon during the debate; THAT is what addled his brain last Thursday night.
True karma would require it to be a Jewish Space Laser.
It is a pitiful thing.
Girls are softer and more prone to feelings…
They feel sorry for Joe.
Mostly.
Fuzzy is an exception…..
Fuzzy has her man crush set on Ronnie, no changing that
Yeah this doesn’t reek of projection at all.
No, just fact
You’re a perfect argument for repealing the 19th.
Right…and you sir are a titty baby… clearly
Whatever you think that’s supposed to mean.
Well, now my curiosity is piqued.
You two. Get a room!
Will you be giving us another speech about Muslims and black people soon?
What? Please look up the definition of “man crush.” What is wrong with you? Seriously, you’re upset that I supported DeSantis in the GOP primary and am now committed to voting for Trump, the GOP nominee, in the general? Oh, the horror! Grow up.
Sympathy vote.
I am an exception.. I judge Joe more harshly than any man on this site
I’m surprised we haven’t seen anything like this ..,
https://youtu.be/aZ_z9Tpdl9A?si=S8DmgRwessUMp2zg
If Trump made the ad, the punchline would be that the phone always goes to voice mail.
Women vote for a daddy and they don’t care if Biden is just an empty suit as long as the people pulling his strings will act as if they were either a father or surrogate husband.
I don’t believe the poll
If I was going to guess, fewer women actually watched the debate, and only got the post-debate spin. Could have been due to a disparity of family related duties with young kids, or just less interest in general.
AWFUL will never learn. All feels and mental illness, all the time.
Reading further into the poll, it appears that women just don’t like Donald Trump either because they don’t think he respects women, his criminal cases, or his remarks. It does not seem that women think this administration is doing the right thing. They much prefer the character and temperament of Joe Biden. Donald Trump could run away with the election if he worked on his women’s issue.
Re: They much prefer the character and temperament of Joe Biden.
Indeed. They are more used to working with “vegetables”.
Well, if he’d just not bragged about grabbing them by the crotch, they might not be so negative. I, of course, haven’t met every woman in the country, but I haven’t yet met one who thought that a pat on the pussy was more respectful than a handshake, or even a dignified hug.
That was something said in “Private”
Men being men. I have heard worse from “men” when I walked into a conversation I wasn’t suppose to be in.
He didn’t say it in public, and certainly 75% of men in this country alone, have said very disgusting things when they thought it was between “the boys”,
So let’s stop the BS shall we?
There’s a new leaked video that will further upset poor, Lil txvet. Pearls will be clutched.
“Poor Lil txvet” doesn’t give a crap what he says, and for that matter, if you’re referring to the golf cart comment, I didn’t see anything particularly noteworthy. I also don’t give a crap that Trumpbots accused DeSantis of wearing lifts in his cowboy boots. But the left made a big deal of one, and Trumpbots made a big deal of the other.
I have never in my life heard men (other than teenage boys) say very disgusting things about women in a men’s only setting.
Well , I did. We are talking younger men, but apparently we came from different social groups
It was when I was a junior engineer in Technical Sales for the federal division of a major computer manufacturer that I was taken to my first strip club. There were many more such “meetings” until I moved to a company that did no federal business.
And WOMEN, the things I have heard women say would curl your brain they are so disgusting.
As with the most recent example, nothing that Trump says is ever “private”, because he has enemies everywhere. Of course, some of his “friends” are more of a problem than his enemies.
“”So let’s stop the BS shall we?””
What, and leave you with nothing to say?
In fairness to DJT I believe he said there are women who would allow/desire a man to grab them by the P. IOW he was describing groupies and gold diggers.
1000% correct
just posted the same
And in fairness to all of the women who thought he meant exactly what I said, it’s easy to interpret his comment that way, especially when that’s pretty much all that was reported. I’ll bet at least half of them still believe it.
If I understand your post you are saying that women believe the distortion about what he said b/c the legacy media and d/prog have built a narrative based on lies about both the context and the content of his actual words?
90% of people encounter only the crap served up by newspapers and their video outlets.
Still parroting Clinton campaign hoaxes, are we?
Yeah, like “Lock her up”.
Caught in a lie? Deflect? Be better than that.
Campaign hoaxes come from both sides, is my point.
the fact that you left out the truth means you knowwww trump is correct when he stated
regarding golddiggers
when you are a star/famous they dont care they will let you grab them by the crotch
Yup, that’s what I said, without the mealy-mouthing.
You are right about that. Just like men and Hillary, the vote for Biden from that group is based on hate for Trump. This will be my third vote for Trump but I would never want to sit down and have a beer with him. I have always avoided people with inflated egos and self-importance. My wife has voted for Trump twice and will this time but she cannot stand to watch him speak nor can I.
I’d have a beer with him anytime, anyplace
He doesn’t drink however
He’s brilliant and what a freaken missed opportunity. .. ridiculous , really
Still sniffing that air with your nose held high I see
“It does not seem that women think this administration is doing the right thing. They much prefer the character and temperament of Joe Biden.”
I am so enamored of one clip from the PBS documentary “Taking on The Kennedys,” about Kevin Vigilante, a Republican doctor who competed for one of Rhode Island’s US Rep. seats against Patrick Kennedy.
There’s this wonderful touchstone scene where Vigilante is at a senior citizens’ clambake and while going around the tables shaking hands, he stops to talk to one old lady. He tells her that on issue A, his position is X, while his opponent’s position is Y, and what is her take on this issue? X, she responds, definitely X, I don’t know how anybody could support Y, that’s just downright crazy.
Then he says that on issue B, his position is X, and his opponent wants to do Y. She says, ugh, Y is what ruined the country, I definitely agree with X. Vigilante is smiling like he’s hooked himself the big teddy bear in the claw machine.
Then the lady asks him, “Who is your opponent?” “Patrick Kennedy,” he says. “Oh! Kennedy! Kennedy! Oh, yeah, I’m voting for Kennedy!”
There’s not a damn thing you can do to fix this. (Except move out of Rhode Island, and I already did that.)
I’m not sure what someone found objectionable about your post. Perhaps the person is butt hurt about anyone who wouldn’t vote for a Kennedy, or move out of RI? In which case what are they doing here?
Why is it that men always have to work on their “women’s issues,” but women don’t have to work on their “men’s issues?”
No they wouldn’t, because they were brainwashed into believing that Republicans will force them to keep their legs closed or to have the babies they keep aborting. They think a Progressive will let them murder as many babies as they want to get rid of….It’s all about murdering their kids.
If they only knew they are being used as pawns by the likes of Planned Parenthood to produce stem cells and body tissue for sale. And they don’t even get a cut of the profits.
Similar to the “Organ Donor” license scam. Everybody involved gets a fortune for trafficking your organs… except you. It’s somehow “unethical” for you to get any of the hundreds of thousands of dollars flying around, despite the fact that without your consideration, they’d all be making lattes.
No he couldn’t. Feminism is the fundamental issue of the political divide. Trump is inherently anti-feminist, which is the root cause of TDS. All major political issues are logically connected, and feminists don’t really think about this but they do know it instinctively and emotionally.
Daddy issues, they all wish they’d showered with their daddies?
The answer is true, but somehow also phenomenally sexist.
The poll assumes that the two candidates are Trump and Biden. However, it’s becoming clearer by the day that Biden is toast. Polls about women’s support for Biden at this point are about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
I wonder how many American women take pharmaceuticals that directly or indirectly impact their behavior and thought processes. I’ll bet it’s more than most folks realize. Big Pharma is making women nuts. And men, too.
And dogs.
I have thought for a long time that the widespread use of anti-depressants by women must account for some of the inability to make rational decisions.
Pairing this story with the previous article about inflation is exactly perfect. Women complain about inflation but then they turn around and vote for it.
Virtue signaling social justice warrior emotional overwroughtness is not a proper basis for public policy
Ask yourself who responds to a poll from the NYT?
Toxic femininity. The pendulum has swung way too far.
Abortion. For a depressing number of women the “right” to torture and kill their own babies is EVERYTHING.
Exactly. I have family member like this, who even after child bearing age are calling Congress crying that their right to kill has been taken from them. It’s pathetic.
Titty baby= Someone considered childish, whiny, cowardly, and prone to taking offense easily
Generally a Southern term…
Like the women who run, screaming and shrieking to HR because the big bad man complimented their new hairstyle?
Like the women who post a response far down in the thread to avoid being noticed.
Well, you’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid.
They sympathize with the one they see as a victim. They’re completely blind to the requirements of the job and just want to side with the poor put-upon old fool.
Repeal the 19th.
Sympathy vote. Women feel sorry for him.
I call it a sympathy poll. I have sympathy for anyone who believes what the NY Times says.
This poll likely identifies the minimum support that any D candidate can expect in a national election. Their candidates likely start from a floor of support between 41-43%. The job of the candidate is to attract support beyond these base levels.
Rs enjoy a base level of support too, but it is likely in the 30s, rather than in the 40s.
For an emotional topic like this, a 3% delta between polls likely falls within the margin of error, regardless of what the published number is. The higher base level of support for Ds is because their voters choose candidates “based on the topics” rather than on the candidate himself. Abortion is probably the principal D lifeline that ensures a higher floor of support for FJB than one would otherwise imagine.
Unsurprising. Women tend to make decisions more through the lens of emotion/feeling v logic. That’s their nature, part of their evolutionary role to nurture. They tend to be more egalitarian in outlook v men who tend to prefer competition/merit to decide winners and losers.
This isn’t a hit on women. To function our family and society need elements of both egalitarianism and competition though the current ratios are definitely way out of whack and very skewed to egalitarianism.
This article is based on skewed polling: what was the sample size; how were the questions asked (written or oral); who was polled and where; etc.
If you torture numbers long enough they will tell you what you want to hear. This is a tempest in a tea pot.
Don’t have to torture numbers, just be careful to define the universe to come up with a boss satisfying result.
My wife, who has voted R, will not vote for him. She may just not vote, which means the gender divide is more “I can’t vote for either person.”
OTOH, If you see how often women are insulted in this thread, it shouldn’t be a surprise.
GOP is out of alignment with women on abortion, and Trump is a “grab her pussy” womanizer who told people to take bleach for covid.
I am also not sure suburbanites care as much about abortion and crime as fox news would have people believe. People DO care about inflation, taxes, and kitchen table issues.
Harris will be the nominee, and the gender divide will grow. Harris can beat Trump. Underestimate her at your own risk. Please dont tell me how she cant put a sentence together, or isnt likeable. Neither can Trump. Trump’s VP choice will make a difference. He needs to nominate someone who can speak to issues like abortion and birth control in a sane, rational manner (No, the country does not support a 6 week ban. Most women dont even know they are pregnant).
“My wife, who has voted R, will not vote for him. She may just not vote, which means the gender divide is more “I can’t vote for either person.”-> I mean she wont vote for Trump.
Didn’t you post this a few weeks ago? Sure sounds really familiar. Anyway, the abortion issue was a SCOTUS decision, so it’s pretty much dead at the national level, no matter who the President is.
Not if the Congressional GOP tries to pass a national ban.
They don’t have to do that. All they need is an AG who will enforce the Comstock Act.
Can you further explain the claim that the GoP at the Federal office level; POTUS, HoR and Senate is ‘out of whack re abortion? All.Dobbs did was move the question back to the individual States and each State Legislature. The decision of the State based upon the culture, history, religious sentiment, societal norms/expectations among other factors will set the abortion policy. Some States have very restrictive laws some have very little impediment. Individuals can always travel to a more accommodating State.
Based on this, I just don’t see the argument (other than one based on emotion/fear) that mean old GoP is gonna restrict abortion at the Federal level other than with the traditionally bipartisan Hyde amendment. There isn’t an appetite to set a National policy. The members of Congress from very restrictive States and the very unrestricted States will form a temp alliance to push back against a more modest 15 week ban.
State-level GOP legislatures are pushing silly 6-week abortion bans and trying to ban minestrone etc. So, sure, except for the overwhelming evidence the GOP is trying to control women’s uteruses, there is no evidence.
That’s not the NATIONAL level which is the whole point. Each State can now decide for itself according to the culture, religion, history, temperament of/for the issue. IOW Massachusetts can be Massachusetts and Mississippi can be Mississippi without either imposing itself or its preferences upon the other.
I don’t see what you find objectionable about Federalism but its a free Country and opinions vary.
The way you see the Dems push gun control at the state level and shut down energy production, and so expect them to push it at the national, suburban women SEE how far the GOP wants to go to control abortion and birth control and figure they will push it at the national level.
Stop being purposefully obtuse.
Replying to dwb: Typical Leftie argument confusing the issue of the Constitution’s Second Amendment with abortion. Let us know when the Constitution has an amendment protecting the God given right to abortion.
dwb,
I ain’t being obtuse here, in fact you are the one arguing in bad faith by attempting to disregard the very clear distinction I made in my original and subsequent argument re the National v State level GoP.
If these women can’t understand the distinction between State and Federal Gov’t and choose to act out of some irrational fear based emotional response it isn’t up to me to fix that….. Unless of course you and they are inviting me to do so, though y’all won’t enjoy the process.
As for 2A ….the same holds true. I live in Alabama and am totally unaffected by what NY State does re 2A b/c I don’t live there, won’t travel there and their local bureaucratic neo gestapo has zero ability to get at me.
While I will support 2A liberties at the National level and offer my opinion about 2A shenanigans in other States I find repugnant, sometimes offering a donation or two, what happens in NY really doesn’t impact me.
As all the chicken little like nonsense dies down from the initial aftermath of Dobbs most rational folks understand that if they live a State with an abortion permissive culture and electorate then that’s gonna continue. Same for States with a more restrictive abortion culture and electorate. Folks can still pack their crap and move to State that better reflects their own culture and beliefs. Failing that someone who seeks an abortion can travel to less restrictive State.
Hysteria is not a convincing argument. I am beginning to understand why old movies show folks getting slapped around when they began acting hysterical.
dwb, there’s a huge difference between guns and murdering babies. Owning the means to defend yourself from being murdered is a fundamental human right. Murdering other people is NOT. If there are women who think they have the right to murder babies the problem is with them. If we had people who thought they had the right to kill n*****s you wouldn’t recommend pandering to them, would you?
In my opinion, abortion and birth control should not be election issues. They are only issues because Planned Parenthood needs the funding to keep its gravy train going. But of course republicans can’t go up against Planned Parenthood because they probably get a cut.
The most fundamental issues of society are always election issues. The most fundamental issue of all is human reproduction. Everything connected to that, directly or indirectly, is a legitimate political issue. Elections all come down to a fundamental question – what kind of society shall we have?
Sounds like y’all are just dumb enough to peddle the lies of the opposing campaign. Anybody who thinks Trump said to drink bleach or that it is okay to just grab women by the pussy is terminally retarded.
No, he didn’t.
“who told people to take bleach for covid”
When did he ever say this?
blah blah, blah. All these replies illustrate why the GOP is losing women.
The GOP is out of step on abortion. Harris will be the nominee. Nearly every woman in the country who’s been harassed or whose had dick pics in their instagram will be rooting for Harris to beat the womanizer who bragged about grabbing pussy.
You are a man telling me… a woman how I “must” feel and how I must react… reign it in boy..,
“Oh my goodness! I have false beliefs and use them to claim others are out of touch? Blah Blah Blah! I don’t have have to be correct, I just have to be stubborn!” – You.
I do wonder where you live, or what social group you mingle with, that you know so many women who have been so ill-treated. It’s rather sad, as a matter of fact.
Apparently you find an abortion position of the people of each state must decide their laws regarding abortion to be anathema. It certainly is anathema to those who wish to force the entire country to have a single legal, Leftist standard of abortion, as was the situation with Roe. Not to mention the standard Democrat talking points about bleach and misrepresenting his comment about gold digging females. How did you fail to bring up the “mostly fine” Nazis of Charlottesville lie?
“OTOH, If you see how often women are insulted in this thread, it shouldn’t be a surprise.”
So she decided to be the stereotype that proves the rule.
THAT’LL show us.
Or to Congress. Dobbs said nothing about the matter; it just said the constitution doesn’t forbid bans on abortion, state or federal. And there was certainly a push by some people, including Lindsay Graham, for Congress to enact a federal ban. The thing is, if that does happen, it’s not going to be at six weeks. Probably 15, since most people are OK with that. Then states can go to 6 if they like.
Dobbs removed the abortion issue to the status quo ante that existed prior to Roe; back to each State to decide the issue of how little or how many restrictions to place upon abortions and under what conditions/circumstances. Obviously Congress could act but that depends upon their political appetite to do so and whether we as a society view that action as a legitimate issue for the Federal Gov’t in the first place. IMO the states posses the power here and Federal Gov’t lacks the requisite legitimate interest needed. Many may disagree with my position but I have yet to see a compelling argument that the Federal Gov’t both can and should attempt to preempt the States on this issue.
“Probably 15, since most people are OK with that. Then states can go to 6 if they like.”
I agree that 15 weeks is probably the best we could do, given the current level of moral corruption in the US. But I hope that “most people” are not “OK” with that.
Judgement is coming.
Come to Alabama where abortion is illegal.
Contraception is too widely available and too cheap, in many cases free, IMO for abortion to be a necessity. Over twenty different forms of birth control available to females as precaution. They could supplement their efforts by forcing males to wear a condom and then take a plan b after each sexual encounter. Celibacy is another option though not much practiced these days. An ‘unwanted’ pregnancy (not a pregnancy with health issues) in modern times is a result of carelessness and or indiscipline. Actions have consequences and the heaviest consequences have always fallen upon women, which is why in previous eras they were far more selective about who they lay with and whether they lay with a man at all prior to marriage.
CommoChief, I agree completely. However I have some sympathy (not empathy) with women who are unable to find decent men. The sexual revolution enabled predatory males. Much of the blame for that falls on feminists, who instructed women to emulate male sexual behavior, but many non-feminists suffer the consequences.
Good women only directly suffer if they choose to participate in ‘hook up’ culture. Those women dating with the deliberate intention to vet a man for his suitability as a husband will have better outcomes. The women who engage in ‘hot girl summer’ and/or choose not to look for a husband and instead chase after Chad or Tyrone for sexual gratification or vanity or whatever other reason have less optimal outcomes.
It is true though that due to the culture shift, driven in large part by feminism, the dynamics of dating/relationships has changed significantly. The other issue is the lag in adjusting our Family Court system from the 1950’s culture to the reality of 2024. Many men will avoid marriage and most will avoid a second marriage after a divorce due to getting hammered by the very discriminatory presumptions of our Family CT system. Good women and good men do suffer from these.
I’m OK with a 15-week national ban, because it’s better than the current situation, where in many states babies can be murdered right up to the moment of birth, or even beyond it. I think most right-to-lifers would agree that a 15-week ban would be an improvement.
I think an effort to impose a 6-week national ban would fail; the nation isn’t ready for it, so there’s no prospect of it happening in the foreseeable future.
Simple: Biden’s now pronounced decline has triggered the “mother instinct” or sympathy.
Democrats can’t even define what a woman is anymore. Why would they support a Party that’s denying their existence and supporting men replacing them? Campaign ads should hammer this issue.
Go look up how many liberal women have been diagnosed with a mental disorder. It’s horrifying. Then, look up the same for conservative women. It isn’t as bad, but still huge.
“Why would they support a Party that’s denying their existence and supporting men replacing them?”
Why would they protect abusive husbands from the po-po?
How many of the “women” surveyed for this pole were men claiming to be women? FJB
1. The sexual revolution has. been a disaster for women. And they blame it on masculine men. Like Trump.
2. Empathy vs. sympathy. Sympathy is throwing a rope to someone sinking in quicksand. Empathy is jumping in with him. Women are more empathetic than men.
Do I need to say that all of the above characteristics of women are “on the average”?
Nope. Certainly not to those of us with any common sense who have also been paying attention. Of course the same folks who disagree will also rage about making generalizations and demand we first deal with the exceptions.
“I don’t want you to ‘fix’ my problem, I want you to commiserate about it with me.”
Politics in a nutshell. If they start actually solving problems, they think they won’t have anything to run on.
Left off: Same way for those women. If they actually solve their problems, they won’t have anything to complain about.
Best analogy I ever heard on this point:
Wife tells her husband her head hurts. Keeps going on about how much h, where it hurts, how she feels about it hurting, what her friends said about it, what her co-workers told her….
Finally the Husband interrupts her and says ‘honey, you have nail sticking into your skull, let’s go to the ER and pull the nail out’….The wife screams at her husband ‘IT’S NOT ABOUT THE NAIL’.
True, but ask those women if they will give up feminism and start having lots of babies? The answer you get will be NOPE.
Well if I were paying attention to anything in the world for the past 5 years, I’d say the poll was corrupt propaganda.
I’d be labeled an election denier and a proponent of misinformation. I’d be throttled from social media and my posts deleted,
As an aside, I’m listening to Operation Paper Clip. It centers around giving a ton of Nazi’s with skills a pass on their crimes against humanity so the west can beat the Russians. The V2 rocket program was quite the atrocity. The lesson is the one thing you can count on is for institutions to be corrupt.
OTOH had the US and Western Allies taken the high road and told von Braun et al to take a hike until we can catch up with you to prosecute you for war crimes*, there is absolutely no doubt that the Soviets would have snatched them up – and not to prosecute them. Would Uncle Joe Stalin and successors have resisted the idea of using the resulting weapons against the West?
* Which raises the question about whether scientists developing a new weapon of war have committed a war crime, or have they simply developed a new weapon of war? Did our scientists commit a war crime by developing the atom bomb? Was the development of the tank a war crime, or the machine gun? That’s all above my pay grade.
For the abject evil of the Soviet Union- I give much leeway to winning the arms race. However, once the “we can lie if feel we need to genie is out of the bottle, you can’t put it back in. I’m naive to think it ever was in a bottle in first place. The end justifies the means, and soon Stalinists or COVID Fauciests are choosing the end and the means.
In my lifetime we are closer to BEING ruled by a Stalinist government than we have ever been. J6, the Trump prosecution and a thousand other selective prosecutions of crimes. The lying and the ease and magnitude of which they do it is part and parcel with the package- right up there with the censorship.
My conclusion when reading every book on the holocaust is always the same. If every Jew taken had spent 100 rounds of ammunition before getting on the train, very few train cars would have left the station. Protecting the second amendment along with rest of the constitution is the best protection from those would round us up. Unfortunately our constitution does very little to protect us from a government that is intent to lie to its people to commit constitutional suicide.
Huh? How is that even a question? Inventors of new weapons are doing a service to humanity. If they’re doing it in war time, like the Manhattan Project, they’re doing their duty. The atom bomb won us the war; without it we would have lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers, the war would have gone on for years, and the USSR would have taken advantage of that. (Also true but not really relevant is that the atom bomb saved the millions of Japanese who would have been killed in an Allied invasion.)
“God made men, Sam Colt made them equal.” The Manhattan Project did that too.
A very important point about the leveling effect among nuclear powers which many seem to either have forgotten or choose to ignore.
I am embarrassed by my sex’s apparent complete inability to evaluate anything objectively and rationally and operating exclusively off of FEELZ. The thought of a ticket with 2 females is a nightmare scenario for me. My fears are well based and backed up by data showing what female leaders have done to their countries worldwide… to bring about their destruction with nary a thought about impact and destroyed standards of living…with exceptions few and far between
It’s a bell curve – with women like Golda Meir, Margaret Thacher, and you at the objective, rational end.
I agree the few good ones we have had have and do have,….are/were very good. But I think if we graphed women leaders, ….everything from world nation heads to congresswomen, senators, down to university leaders and school board members what that graph would look like is a right triangle not a bell curve.
Women are the strongest “Never Trumpers” .
You’d think that seniors, who are for the most part living on a fixed income, would be the group most aware of and most sensitive to the effects of inflation. That 3% increase in social security doesn’t really offset the double digit inflation in all other areas of their lives. That is the seed that I try to plant in people’s heads. Some dweeb on the internet recently challenged my double digit inflation claim with the CPI showing 4%. I then asked them to name a single product that did not go up by at least 10% last year, and the year before, and the year before. Crickets. Their sound bites never hold up to see it with your own eyes (and feel it in your own pockets) facts.
trump said he would attack the fraud and corruption and that would cut billion from social security costs
msm: trump vows
to cut social security
Boomer women have complete faith in MSM.
Frustratingly the demographic that has remained most loyal to Biden has been age 65+. They voted for him at about 45% +/- and have consistently polled at 45% support for Biden. No other demo has polled for Biden at the same level as their vote in ’20. You’d think they knew better but…
Since women live longer than men, and a lot of the oldest guys have died off, it is not a surprise. The older women I see are mostly hard core anti-Trumpers. They are totally invested in the Feminist model of society, and see everything from that perspective.
I agree with with you, that’s the most likely reason. Yet, these women and more than a few men to be fair, have had a lifetime of experience and still choose to put their feelings ahead of facts/logic? How many times do they choose to believe the GoP Presidential candidate is literally Hitler? Every election cycle it is the same tired old tropes brought out; take away ‘right to choose’, end Social Security, end Medicare, reinstate segregation. The irony is that the d/prog are doing 3/4 of those right now with their disastrous policies and refusal to reform.
This stat demonstrates that way toooo many women are “softies” who ignore common sense and reality for the sake of loyalty to the D party. Those counted in this survey simply feel sorry for mentally deficient biden while ignoring the damage he is and will cause to the USA, at home and abroad. (I would also let emotion play some role: IF he & his money-grubbing family & those who controlled the D party had not sought the USA presidency in 2020; IF he were not now mentally incapable of discharging the duties of the highest elected office in the USA!!)
Prior to 1920 women couldn’t vote. If someone mentioned to the Founders they are bigoted sexists, they would have opened their Future Viewer and pointed to this poll.
Isn’t it funny how every single culture was “bigoted and sexist” until we knew better?
It doesn’t seem to be working out for us.
I don’t need to know why it’s wrong-Rush explained it years ago
Voter suppression polls
The fundamental political and emotional divide of our time is about Feminism. Ultimately, it is about what kind of society we shall have, and most big political issues are logically connected. Feminism is all about women prioritizing things other than reproduction. Feminists are not willing to reproduce at replacement level, let alone above that. We need population growth for economic growth, and if women will not reproduce, we need massive immigration, so those issues are intimately connected. Elites need the cheap labor immigration provides. Trump is anti-feminist and anti-illegal immigration.. That is right there the root cause of most TDS.
Just look who has the greatest TDS. In Jan 2017, who marched by the millions with silly pink hats to protest Trump? Who dominates the ranks of regime media? Who is the most shrill and unhinged against Trump? What is Trumps biggest accomplishment of his 1st term? [Ans; Overturning Roe v Wade] What was Biden’s biggest anti-Trump policy change? [Ans: opening the southern border] Who is the most fervent on doubling down on Biden (or Harris)? It really is a men v women election. Feminists know their entire way of life is under threat and are reacting accordingly. The 2024 election will be a turnout battle, and nobody should be complacent based on public polls.