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Post Debate Biden’s Support Among Women “actually ticked up slightly” – Siena/NYT

Post Debate Biden’s Support Among Women “actually ticked up slightly” – Siena/NYT

I do understand why Trump would be stronger among men. But what I can’t understand is how support among women could increase, or even hold steady, after that debate. Come on, man.

It’s just one poll, but anyway, the findings are interesting. The Siena / NY Times poll showed Trump’s lead increasing overall.

Donald J. Trump’s lead in the 2024 presidential race has widened after President Biden’s fumbling debate performance last week, as concerns that Mr. Biden is too old to govern effectively rose to new heights among Democrats and independent voters, a new poll from The New York Times and Siena College showed.

Mr. Trump now leads Mr. Biden 49 percent to 43 percent among likely voters nationally, a three-point swing toward the Republican from just a week earlier, before the debate. It is the largest lead Mr. Trump has recorded in a Times/Siena poll since 2015. Mr. Trump leads by even more among registered voters, 49 percent to 41 percent.

Doubts about Mr. Biden’s age and acuity are widespread and growing. A majority of every demographic, geographic and ideological group in the poll — including Black voters and those who said they will still be voting for him — believe Mr. Biden, 81, is too old to be effective.

Overall, 74 percent of voters view him as too old for the job, up five percentage points since the debate. Concerns about Mr. Biden’s age have spiked eight percentage points among Democrats in the week since the debate, to 59 percent. The share of independent voters who said they felt that way rose to 79 percent, nearly matching the Republican view of the president.

The Siena/NYT findings are consistent with other post-debate polls that show Trump increasing his lead after the debate.

This could end up being a Battle of the Sexes election, with Trump surging among men, while women are still “riding with Biden”:

One of the more interesting findings in the poll was that men accounted for virtually all of Mr. Trump’s post-debate gains….

In the pre-debate poll, Mr. Trump had led among likely male voters by 12 percentage points. After the debate, his lead among men ballooned to 23 points. That movement was particularly concentrated among younger men and men without college degrees.

Mr. Biden’s five-point edge among likely women voters before the debate actually ticked up slightly, to eight points.

This tweet by Ryan Girdusky highlights the yawning gender gap between men and women:

I do understand why Trump would be stronger among men. But what I can’t understand is how support among women could increase, or even hold steady, after that debate. Come on, man.

Please try to explain it to me, without using the word “Karen”.

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destroycommunism | July 3, 2024 at 9:03 pm

uhhh

when you say women………


 
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destroycommunism | July 3, 2024 at 9:04 pm

by nature women are socialists so its no surprise

they keep getting the unfair advantages in the name of equality via the courts etc


 
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rhhardin | July 3, 2024 at 9:15 pm

Women vote on a balance of feelings in the air. Men vote on structural stability.

Chief point for women is whether the guy seems to mean well.


     
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    Close The Fed in reply to rhhardin. | July 3, 2024 at 9:27 pm

    “Structural stability”? The phrasing doesn’t quite make it with me. I’m more inclined to find men are more interested in WHAT WORKS. Charity to every lay-about doesn’t WORK.


 
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AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | July 3, 2024 at 9:19 pm

Most liberal women want an emasculated man. A feeble Biden is the perfect type of man that liberal women can control. Also, now they can complain because the doddering fool doesn’t “do anything around the house!”

They can also relate to the guy who will give them loads of cash. Uncle Joe is the perfect sugar daddy.

Conservative women are the best!.

Women are by nature more caring/nurturing/supportive? They see an ailing person and do not react with “We have to get rid of him”? That is the most charitable I can be without trashing the 19th Amendment. IMO someone whom THEY claim is only 100% from 10AM to 4PM, not counting afternoon naps, might make the grade as a part-time Walmart greeter, but not POTUS.


 
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Close The Fed | July 3, 2024 at 9:25 pm

As a woman, I find other women indulge their feelings far too much in politics. Repeal the — which amendment is it? Repeal it!!!


 
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TargaGTS | July 3, 2024 at 9:27 pm

I believe Biden was +15 with women in 2020. He actually did better with women in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016, which is odd. Still. +7 is WAY worse than Clinton’s result in 2016. If Trump only loses women by 7-points, it’s going to be a very, very good night for Republicans.

Also, a real AP headline tonight: “Biden at 81: Sharp and focused but sometimes confused and forgetful”

Democrats are in such chaos, even the media doesn’t know what to do.


 
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Morning Sunshine | July 3, 2024 at 9:27 pm

have you seen the claim that Biden performed poorly due to being continuously hit by a microwave weapon during the debate; THAT is what addled his brain last Thursday night.

It is a pitiful thing.
Girls are softer and more prone to feelings…
They feel sorry for Joe.
Mostly.

Fuzzy is an exception…..

I’m surprised we haven’t seen anything like this ..,
https://youtu.be/aZ_z9Tpdl9A?si=S8DmgRwessUMp2zg


 
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Sanddog | July 3, 2024 at 9:44 pm

Women vote for a daddy and they don’t care if Biden is just an empty suit as long as the people pulling his strings will act as if they were either a father or surrogate husband.


 
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gonzotx | July 3, 2024 at 9:46 pm

I don’t believe the poll


 
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jhkrischel | July 3, 2024 at 9:55 pm

If I was going to guess, fewer women actually watched the debate, and only got the post-debate spin. Could have been due to a disparity of family related duties with young kids, or just less interest in general.


 
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Paddy M | July 3, 2024 at 10:07 pm

AWFUL will never learn. All feels and mental illness, all the time.


 
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Arnoldn | July 3, 2024 at 10:31 pm

Reading further into the poll, it appears that women just don’t like Donald Trump either because they don’t think he respects women, his criminal cases, or his remarks. It does not seem that women think this administration is doing the right thing. They much prefer the character and temperament of Joe Biden. Donald Trump could run away with the election if he worked on his women’s issue.

Daddy issues, they all wish they’d showered with their daddies?


 
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Dathurtz | July 3, 2024 at 10:55 pm

The answer is true, but somehow also phenomenally sexist.


 
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Paula | July 3, 2024 at 11:16 pm

The poll assumes that the two candidates are Trump and Biden. However, it’s becoming clearer by the day that Biden is toast. Polls about women’s support for Biden at this point are about as useful as a chocolate teapot.


 
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WestRock | July 3, 2024 at 11:24 pm

I wonder how many American women take pharmaceuticals that directly or indirectly impact their behavior and thought processes. I’ll bet it’s more than most folks realize. Big Pharma is making women nuts. And men, too.

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