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California Lawmakers Propose Requirement for New Cars to “Beep” When Over Speed Limit

California Lawmakers Propose Requirement for New Cars to “Beep” When Over Speed Limit

Once the car is at least 10 mph (16 kph) over the speed limit, the system would emit “a brief, one-time visual and audio signal to alert the driver.”

California’s crime-friendly environment has led to numerous Legal Insurrection reports of smash-and-grab robberies, Beverly Hills becoming a ghost town, piracy in Oakland Day, and a constant stream of organized retail theft.

And while we reviewed some of the states crazy new laws that became effective this year, it certainly hasn’t stopped Sacramento from churning out more insanity.

The California Senate recently passed SB 961, a measure that which would require “passive speed limiters” to be installed in all new cars manufactured or sold in the Golden State by 2032.

The motion, introduced by Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), would make California the first state in the nation to enact the safety requirement, which is similar to a law in the European Union that is set to take effect in July.

In the E.U.’s initiative, drivers are “always in control and can easily override” the intelligent speed assistance system.

According to Senator Wiener, California – and America as a whole – have seen a “horrifying spike” in deaths of drivers, pedestrians and cyclists over the years, especially since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic; the California Office of Traffic Safety’s 2023 Traffic Safety Report found that deadly crashes involving alcohol and drug-impaired driving, motorcyclist fatalities and teenage driver fatalities all increased from 2020 to 2021.

Of course, the more obvious reasons for the spike in incidents — distracted driving from cell phone use and illegal immigrants violating our road rules as well as those related to border control — are entirely ignored by these virtue signalers.

It must still pass a vote in the California Assembly before it becomes law, which must happen by August 31. The chances of that are quite high.

Tbe bill places a lot of demands on the car companies. This will, in turn, make cars more expensive to purchase.

The technology, known as intelligent speed assistance, uses GPS technology to compare a vehicle’s speed with a dataset of posted speed limits. Once the car is at least 10 mph (16 kph) over the speed limit, the system would emit “a brief, one-time visual and audio signal to alert the driver.”

It would not require California to maintain a list of posted speed limits. That would be left to manufacturers. It’s likely these maps would not include local roads or recent changes in speed limits, resulting in conflicts.

The bill states that if the system receives conflicting information about the speed limit, it must use the higher limit.

If the proposed bill gets signed into law, it would make California the first state in the country to require a speed-limiting device. Of course, 11 other states followed our folly in forcing EV’s onto a now unwilling population…so some of you may soon be facing the same rules.

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So that raises all the speed limits 10mph. (“It didn’t warn me.”)

nordic prince | May 24, 2024 at 8:10 pm

Oh hell no. Just NO.

The only thing that needs limiting is the ever-encroaching nanny state. We do have a device (aka the Constitution) to limit it, but no one pays any attention to it.

    DaveGinOly in reply to nordic prince. | May 24, 2024 at 10:19 pm

    Don’t worry, this feature is unnecessary. In the future, when they catch you speeding, they will just disable your vehicle remotely.

    CommoChief in reply to nordic prince. | May 25, 2024 at 8:59 am

    It’s time for a coalition of States to come together and oppose this sort of crap by adopting opposing legislation. Then the manufacturers can choose to develop separate CA compliant models while offering standard models in the non CA/CA aligned States or use the momentum of the moment to tell CA to pound sand. Alternatively they could tell CA they would be happy to manufacture CA compliant models in CA and to grant them permits ….which should only take a decade or so to break ground on given the Cray Cray regulatory environment of CA.

Big Brother is watching

    OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to Skip. | May 24, 2024 at 10:02 pm

    Big brother is beeping

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to OwenKellogg-Engineer. | May 25, 2024 at 7:50 am

      More like a nagging mother. Replete with rapidly inhaled air when a light turns red four blocks away, foot pumping on an imaginary brake pedal from passenger seating anywhere in the car, a gasp followed by grabbing the safety handle whenever another car is entering the street from any direction.

        CommoChief in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | May 25, 2024 at 9:02 am

        Yeah, Freud’s domineering Mother archetype seems very apt to describe the philosophy of the CA governing class. Not perfect but still close enough to be scary.

The wife’s car has a feature that will set off a light and chime if you hit a programed speed. I have it set to 80 mph for interstate driving. It has saved me from getting tickets.

I propose a measure that would require presidents to wear a monitoring device that would emit a loud intermittent beep when they become senile.

The Gentle Grizzly | May 24, 2024 at 8:51 pm

The place just becomes more goofy every day.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 25, 2024 at 7:53 am

    THG. So correct. But the auto manufacturers have to build cars for the entire US, so the rest of us will be saddled with expensive stupidity.

This is what Utopia looks like. Yes, the future is now and it looks like a wiener.

There will be tens of thousands of cars beep-bleeping on I-80 between the SFBA and Tahoe and for a 1000 miles on I-5 from San Diego to the Oregon border.

Instead of a “beep”, let it play Jan & Dean’s “Dead Man’s Curve”. Much more entertaining.

https://youtu.be/yrCuMPeSu9s?si=EfuDCQjSbEps-MT2

I remember my grandfather had one on his car back in the 60’s. It went off while he was driving us kids to his cottage.
I have a limit set I can use electronically if I so desire on my car.
I love your conservatives in cali, but damn I wish it would fall into the Pacific and take all those liberals with it.

    DSHornet in reply to 4fun. | May 25, 2024 at 11:16 am

    A cousin’s 1960ish Buick had this feature. He had his set all the way to the max so it wouldn’t be annoying.
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CA has gone mental since the federal government allowed them a carve-out through which they are able to regulate articles that move in interstate commerce, to wit, automobiles. This carve-out allows CA to do that which exclusive federal jurisdiction over interstate commerce was meant to prevent – one State, or group of States, interfering in the industry and production of goods in another State or group of States. CA has issued new mandates for electric trucks and wants to issue requirements for all-electric locomotives, thereby causing/forcing changes in production by manufacturers in other states. Without these carve-outs, CA wouldn’t have these powers. But that likely wouldn’t stop them, as many States (incl. CA) exercise similar power over the manufacture of firearms produced in other States even without a carve-out over these articles. (CA also has regulations concerning the care of laying hens. After burdening their own egg farmers with costly new regulations, the state realized it put its own producers at a disadvantage to those in other States, so it enacted regulations requiring all egg producers selling their product in the state to adhere to the same regs. This caused producers in other States to modify their production of eggs, CA’s authority to make regulations thus reached beyond CA’s borders into other States, exactly what the Constitution was meant to prevent by giving Congress exclusive legislative jurisdiction over interstate commerce.)

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 25, 2024 at 8:11 am

    And the ability of the Supreme Court to override that carve out.

    But they are too busy mandating what a farmer can do with wheat even if it or its byproducts never leave that same farm.

    henrybowman in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 25, 2024 at 1:56 pm

    Let’s not forget their Gun Safety Rosters, a Second Amendment carveout that lets them declare hundreds of models of firearms “too unsafe to own” — some of them the very models that they provide to their cops.

      DaveGinOly in reply to henrybowman. | May 26, 2024 at 3:22 am

      Not forgetting. That’s exactly what I mean. Several states have banned certain firearms and firearms accouterments (e.g. “high-capacity” magazines), yet when Congress wanted to ban alcohol, it knew that even it’s legislative jurisdiction over articles moving in interstate commerce was insufficient to enact a ban, so they pursued and had ratified an amendment to the Constitution. Congress knows, or at least knew that its authority under the commerce clause didn’t allow it to ban anything. Yet with the carve-out granted to CA to ban certain automobiles (based on their inability to meet emissions standards), the Congress has assumed an authority that it once knew it didn’t/doesn’t have, and then doubled-down by extending that authority (with the extension of power of Congress to a State likely being unconstitutional by itself) to a State.

      My point about firearms is that Congress hasn’t formally extended this authority to the States, yet several States now interfere with these articles of commerce that move between the States. I believe an appropriate argument brought into a court of law (that the States can’t regulate firearms or their necessaries) could defeat State-level firearms bans and restrictions because if such authority exists, it exists only with the Congress due to the commerce clause, and the fact that Congress has not extended this presumptive authority to the States, that the States therefore have no such authority at all.

CA abandoned all red light cameras, because they were faction of second off.

There’s no way they can make the GPS monitored speed limit accurate. It will get challenged by clever techie and it will be abandoned eventually, after much time wasted time and expense.

Scott Weiner is socialist groomer.

    diver64 in reply to smooth. | May 25, 2024 at 6:23 am

    Why will it be abandoned? Cali is not proposing any fines as of yet for being over the speed limit although that will not be long in coming. If they get that system installed on every car they can shut it off if your convicted of a dui, track you for a mileage tax, shut it off if a cop calls in your license plate, if you have driven your allotted miles for the week or month for the environment etc.

      smooth in reply to diver64. | May 25, 2024 at 8:32 am

      With or without fine, it won’t/can’t ever be considered accurate and therefore will be “confusing” to drivers, giving drivers false information, and arguably contributing to driving errors in judgement, which will be manifesting after mass rollout in ways not imagined. It will be matter of time before it lands before judge in CA court that takes it apart.

      That is different separate issue from replacing the gas tax etc.

      But to the bigger issue, under one party rule dem super majority in CA there is no penalty for failed policies. Therefore, CA should not be allowed to shape the policies of other states.

healthguyfsu | May 24, 2024 at 11:55 pm

If we get to self-driving infrastructure, this becomes somewhat irrelevant.

    nordic prince in reply to healthguyfsu. | May 25, 2024 at 12:20 am

    Their ultimate goal is no-driving infrastructure, because shaddup peasant.

    CommoChief in reply to healthguyfsu. | May 25, 2024 at 5:49 pm

    IMO that’s a long way off. What might speed it up is if the advocates for self driving vehicles chose to build a completely separate set of roads, highways and interstates along with the bridges and tunnels to support them…all with purely private funds and without any use of eminent domain then have at it. Then with lack of human drivers the crap might work though each vehicle would need the exact same parameters to operate; how much distance to maintain, what is a safe merge speed, how to react to a deer, elk or wandering cow.

    IOW if you want a self driving infrastructure you gonna need to build one b/c the current road infrastructure is for human drivers. The day the govt tells me I can’t operate a vehicle on the roadways I spent a lifetime of taxes paying for b/c they want exclusively self driving vehicles… that’s gonna be a very bad next couple weeks.

Speed limits vary a lot. How will the car know?

    diver64 in reply to geronl. | May 25, 2024 at 6:20 am

    Location either using GPS or cellphone towers. The location then matches to a database of speed limits much like a GPS does. My higher dollar one for professional drivers is pretty accurate within about 20-30 feet of a speed limit sign change but is still wrong on a frequent basis.

    smooth in reply to geronl. | May 25, 2024 at 8:36 am

    It won’t. School and construction zones change by the day and hour. Day not night speed limits can change. Pulling trailer changes speed limit. Just handful of examples, many more. Its dumb idea from nanny state.

Reality check – due to protestors and general congestion the only way to drive over 50 MPH on any SoCal highway is usually to do it at 0300 in the morning.

Trucking companies use a variety of electronic logging devices for drivers to use. I had one downloaded onto my phone and it used the location to keep track of where we were for the logs. One feature built in was for safety ratings. It kept track of various things including speeding to build a safety profile of the driver. This let the driver see how he/she was doing and also you could view whatever incident it recorded to “help” be a better driver. The speed limits were frequently wrong as they relied on the state to update them and the state was very lax on this. One example is the road I live on in a rural SE state. Since it’s a county road the speed limit is 55mph. The gps logging has it at 45mph for some reason. Been that way for years.
This beeping nonsense is just a backdoor way to get a tracking device on your vehicle. Next up will be mandatory speed limiters and a mileage tax.

E Howard Hunt | May 25, 2024 at 6:38 am

Time to bring back the Plymouth Road Runner

RepublicanRJL | May 25, 2024 at 7:35 am

I suggest we install BS Limiters are on lips of every Democrat politician.

The silence would be deafening.

Let me take a wild guess. Instead of going to work at a large corporation to actually do the work while DEI aces get promoted past their competence and overpaid (off subject, but was I the only one surprised to learn that the Chief of the Louisville Metro Police was a black female?), ambitious young people will start their own businesses overriding nanny features in cars. Don’t like the “stop speeding” beep? Disconnect the beeper. Don’t want governors on your car’s speed–hack around the governor. For some strange reason, the feds think my golf cart should be limited to 19 mph and beep when I back up. You’d be amazed at how many of my neighbors have overridden those “helpful” features. Maybe governments at all levels should worry a little more about teaching kids to read, filling potholes, and protecting property rights and a little less about telling us what to do. We have far too many Karens in our country. They were exposed during COVID, but they lurk around every corner ready to tell us what to do. Everyone needs to stay in their own lane. My right to swing my arm ends where someone else’s nose begins–but other than that, leave me alone.

    DSHornet in reply to Disgusted. | May 25, 2024 at 11:23 am

    The backup beeper is there to keep you from being sued if you hit a pedestrian while you’re moving in reverse and unable to watch for hazards as well as you can when moving forward. Other than that, I totally agree.
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    destroycommunism in reply to Disgusted. | May 25, 2024 at 11:25 am

    btw karen is a racist term ( hey use it allll you want but it gives in to lefty when we do use it)

    that was taking lakesha etc and turned it on wh ite people

My car does this already as does my husband’s truck. It also reads out my speed alongside the posted speed for the road I am on. It actually is a good reminder so you don’t get caught in a speed trap.

    Bruce Hayden in reply to rebelgirl. | May 25, 2024 at 12:12 pm

    Just bought a new 2023 Mercedes SUV (CLS 450). It reads speed limit signs, and displays them in the center display. A year or so ago, I saw this feature in some of the upscale East Asian SUVs. They are all fairly accurate, and tend to switch to a different speed limit right as you go by the sign. The Mercedes appears to have an option that allows the car to beep when you go 10 or so mph over the posted speed limit it is displaying.

    Which is to say that the technology is here now.

Intrusive audible warnings alerting drivers to excessive speed while driving well within the speed limit.

No means to cancel erroneous alarms.

Repeated audible warnings until system is able to resynchronise with the correct speed limit.

How many things could go wrong there?

destroycommunism | May 25, 2024 at 11:23 am

well its still better than their other idea

to bubble wrap all pedestrians

The feature will be called “Karen”.

henrybowman | May 25, 2024 at 2:01 pm

“In the E.U.’s initiative, drivers are “always in control and can easily override” the intelligent speed assistance system.”

Failure to wear a helmet will draw only a warning ticket.
Driving without a seat belt will not be a primary cause for a traffic stop.
The new town parking decal will cost only $1/year.
The income tax will affect only the top 1% of earners in the US.
Your Social Security Number will never be used for identification.
The new firearms registration database will never be used for confiscation.
If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance

Anything they have to say to get the law passed and get that foot in the door.

    DaveGinOly in reply to henrybowman. | May 26, 2024 at 3:33 am

    I was just reading an article on Zero Hedge about CIA-influenced “disinformation” control on X. There was a pic of Nina “Scary Poppins” Jankowicz with a book behind her entitled How to Lose the Information War. That book should have one page, and it should say:

    You will lose the information war by lying to the people. If the people develop a sense that you’re lying to them, they will not trust you.
    You will lose the information war by censoring what the people want to consume, because it will create the impression in many that you’re concealing the truth (because they know truth when they hear it, and if you’re protecting your information by denying them access to other information, many will presume it’s because you’re telling untruths that wouldn’t stand up to the censored information).

We walked into the Bass Pro Shop in Bristol TN last Sunday with an idea to buy the girls a .22 pistol. We got the Taurus TX. Fun because it can be fitted with a silencer (wrong word- eff off gun geeks). LIke a moped, this is a good vehicle to learn on and always a great one to run. About an hour later we leave the store with a new pistol in a box with ammo both double wrapped in plastic bags. Then we went to DQ and got some food which included a beverage with a plastic straw.

Those of you not living in blue state hell holes say – “BFD- that’s an average Sunday for me” These are freedoms not enjoyed by people in Wa nor Ca and God only knows how many other states.

The guy who sold it to us working the counter- moved from CA in 2018.
The guy ahead of us in line was from Bakersfield CA a few years back
The guy in line after us – also from CA.
8 out of 10 people in my conceal carry class and the range that I talked to a few weeks back were from either California and NY. (one may have been NJ).

These are all highly productive, law abiding citizens. These are the people you want in your economy. They work, they spend, they pay taxes, the don’t cause crime and they will never be a burden to society- not counting dotage which will be every person lucky enough to reach old age.

They aint in California.

Do the economic math of the LA mansion tax- those home sales right now are those of people fleeing the state.

I have an idea for the car manufacturers. Since everything is computerized, make a VERY simple option on the main control panel that lets you set it to California/Rest of US. That controls the emission control system, the annoying beeps and honks, speed tracking, location tracking, and anything else the nuts in CA decide need to be mandated on us. And then the few remaining sane people in CA simply poke a button on the dashboard to make it go away, or poke the button again to return it to CA settings when you need to have the emissions checked or whatever.