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Speaker Johnson: Senate Border Bill ‘Dead on Arrival’

Speaker Johnson: Senate Border Bill ‘Dead on Arrival’

It also gives aid to Ukraine and Israel.

The bipartisan Senate security bill that contains aid for Ukraine and Israel will not make it to the House floor.

The Senate vote should happen on Wednesday.

The Bill

The bill also does not count unaccompanied children not from Mexico in the migrant encounter tally.

We have NO money to give anyone foreign aid. It also gives Ukraine $40 billion more than it gives border security! The bill includes $2.4 billion to tackle the Houthis in the Red Sea.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told Republicans to vote on the bill because it is “crucial to defending American interests overseas.”

Make a separate bill then! I hate that Speaker Mike Johnson wanted a border bill with foreign aid. Thanks for giving the left more ammunition to use against you.

The bill also has what Sens. James Lankford and Kyrsten Sinema claimed it did not: 5,000 illegal immigrants can across a day.

The border has seen up to 4,000 encounters a day.

Plus, President Joe Biden can suspend a border shutdown.

Senate Republicans Hate It

Speaker Johnson said it is “dead on arrival.”

Before I talk about the House, a few Senate Republicans won’t vote for it.

House Republican Reaction

Again, don’t demand a border bill include foreign aid. Keep these bills separate. Don’t combine ANYTHING.

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ThePrimordialOrderedPair | February 5, 2024 at 11:03 am

Speaker Johnson: Senate Border Bill ‘Dead on Arrival’

The same should be said of the treasonous turd Senators who created and support it.

TRAITORS. Plain and simple.

    “I want you to hear the good news from me – after months of leading bipartisan negotiations, I’m incredibly proud to announce my new bipartisan border security bill.
    a…s Arizona’s Independent Senator, I brought solutions-focused Republicans and Democrats together with one goal in mind: secure our border.”

    Too bad, Kyrsten — that didn’t age 24 hours.

    Why is it that people like you complain about the border but also complain about border control solutions?

What is incredible is that they’ve somehow managed to write a bill that is orders of magnitude worse than the most vocal critics feared it might be. That takes some effort….and INTENT. No one should ever forget what an sellout Senator Lurch…Lankford, I meant Senator Lankford…is.

    Mary Chastain in reply to TargaGTS. | February 5, 2024 at 11:16 am

    I have a feeling I’ll see people mounting challenges here in Oklahoma.

    CommoChief in reply to TargaGTS. | February 5, 2024 at 11:34 am

    Sen Lankford is emblematic of the type of politician we as voters must be willing to discard in Primaries. The man is, by all accounts, a nice guy, a Christian, a good and decent person. Those are admirable qualities in a next door neighbor but it is time to stop sending clones of Ned Flanders to represent us in DC, in the State Legislature or any other elected position.

    The pendulum has swung so far left away from the normal center b/c of these types. They didn’t want to be seen as judgmental or intolerant so they acquiesced to lefty Cray Cray. It is going to take a strong measure of ruthlessness to counter the woke/lefty weirdo policies and the lefty control of our institutions. Note that doesn’t require us be mean spirited or go out of our way to PO potential voters, it does require steadfast commitment to use the full power of their elected office to implement the agenda and promises they campaigned on. No excuses.

      Mary Chastain in reply to CommoChief. | February 5, 2024 at 11:39 am

      I miss Sen. Coburn so much. He had no problem standing up to Democrats and Republicans.

      ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to CommoChief. | February 5, 2024 at 12:00 pm

      The man is, by all accounts, a nice guy, a Christian, a good and decent person.

      “by their fruits ye shall know them”

      Evidently, Lankford is a traitor, a liar, and a retard. The guy kept lying about what is in the bill, as if no one was ever going to find out what it said. It was really something. He lied like a leftist … about something that he knew was going to be known to all in a matter of days.

      gonzotx in reply to CommoChief. | February 5, 2024 at 1:10 pm

      And bought, you forgot, they paid his price

        CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | February 5, 2024 at 2:45 pm

        What was his price and who paid it?

        IMO, the real problem is folks that don’t need to be ‘bought’ to go against their underlying principles b/c they lack any principles other than getting into office. These folks are truly dangerous, they will say the right things, make the popular campaign promises but in office don’t deliver then blame others or ‘circumstances’ for their failure.

Facially absurd provisions with innumerable loopholes and all administered by the very administration whose policies and violations of immigration law has caused the very problems the bill purports to solve. An impressive piece of bad law.

    MattMusson in reply to Concise. | February 5, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    The President could unilaterally increase the daily number. The number did not include unaccompanied minors or illegals from certain countries. The Bill pays $3 Billion dollars to NGOs to bring more illegals into the country.

    Olinser in reply to Concise. | February 5, 2024 at 3:24 pm

    And oh by the way, a provision that declares that any legal challenge to any of this mess has to go through the far-left DC court swamp.

If we got clean bills we wouldn’t have to do all these contortions ( lies about what’s in a bill) to get a bill passed.

    ChrisPeters in reply to 2smartforlibs. | February 5, 2024 at 11:58 am

    We don’t need ANY bills for this. We are ABLE to close our borders with the laws we have. The problem is that we aren’t following them. The Democrats and the Establishment Republicans have sold us out.

We should deport . . .

. . . every SENATOR who is in favor of this.

There is much pretending here. By my math, only seven Republican Senators have to vote for this bill. There are already at least four RINOs that will go for this. My guess is that Lee, Cruz, Daines, Johnson and Hawley already know it will pass the Senate.

In the House, only 2-3 Republican Congressman have to defect. Do we know of any leverage that would “force” Speaker Johnson to allow a vote?

Perhaps my cynicism is showing, but I am suspicious of this being “dead on arrival.”

    gonzotx in reply to kelly_3406. | February 5, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    Me too

    And just need one more reputation quit or 2 and it becomes demonic democrat with Nazi nan once morei just can’t stand it

    Olinser in reply to kelly_3406. | February 5, 2024 at 3:24 pm

    ‘Dead on arrival’ meaning that they will refuse to bring it for a vote.

    I don’t know if Johnson has, but Scalise has explicitly said it will not receive a vote.

    healthguyfsu in reply to kelly_3406. | February 5, 2024 at 6:20 pm

    Your math should be 0 as long as the people in charge of the House stick to their word and don’t bring it to a vote. It does not belong in our country’s laws. What a disastrous proposal.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | February 5, 2024 at 12:15 pm

This bill is a rehash of the treasonous work of the old Gang of Eight, but with added idiocy in shoveling money to Ukrainian oligarchs and Fakestinian criminals.

Do none of these so-called Senators remember the Gang of Eight and what happened back then? I know that was long, long ago … back in the pre-history … but there are still tales told in Senate homosexual movie sets about what happened.

But … I guess they all figure that they aren’t in danger of suffering anything at all for this clear act of treason and insane stupidity.

I especially love how they are trying to call this treasonous act “compromise”. That’s kind of funny, in a whistling past the graveyard way. And the graveyard is not too far away for this nation.

As of noon, there are at least 15-Senators vocally opposed to this bill. It looks like it’s going to easily die in the Senate. My guess is Democrats knew that if they presented a bill this laughably bad, it would be comfortably defeated allowing them to more easily bifurcate the Ukraine/Israel aid from the border security issue. In a few days, they’ll say, ‘Well, we tried. Now we have to move ahead with a bill for military foreign aid.’

If House Republicans were smart, they’d say not a penny in foreign military aid until Biden closes the border for 6-months and fully reinstates the Remain in Mexico policy. But, I’m afraid there are way too many Always War Republicans in the House that simply can’t stop themselves from giving away money to the Military Industrial Complex.

    gonzotx in reply to TargaGTS. | February 5, 2024 at 1:08 pm

    Why just 6 months?

      healthguyfsu in reply to gonzotx. | February 5, 2024 at 6:23 pm

      While you have a fair point…a 6 month closure would effectively grind illegal immigration to a halt sans some promise of being let in 6 months later.

      That said, Biden is as likely to close the border for 6 months as he is to close forever.

    healthguyfsu in reply to TargaGTS. | February 5, 2024 at 6:22 pm

    No, it gives them cover to say that they wanted to secure the border but Republicans blocked it. And the people who can’t be bothered to look beyond headlines on CNN will lap it up.

    Milhouse in reply to TargaGTS. | February 5, 2024 at 8:11 pm

    15 is not even close to enough, when they need 41. So far at least it looks like it will pass the senate.

      TargaGTS in reply to Milhouse. | February 5, 2024 at 10:34 pm

      The Senate was back in session at 11:oo am. Not even an hour later, 15 Senators had PUBLICLY denounced the bill. By then, it was crystal clear what direction it was quickly headed. Sure enough, later on the afternoon, word leaks that McConnell told the conference in private that the deal should be smothered in its crib. It’s not going to pass, not even the Senate.

destroycommunism | February 5, 2024 at 12:32 pm

ahahahahhahaah

see the senate PURPSOEFULLY makes it extreme

and then losers >>gop can “compromise”

and end up giving the left what they wanted anyways while CLAIMING that the watered down version is a victory

I mean even Reagan gave in until we regain the schools the country is left left left and

GONE

destroycommunism | February 5, 2024 at 12:37 pm

biden did with the Uk what lbj did with vietnam

cause the conflict

to protect their own positions

b/c the left (rinos) DO NOTTTT BELIEVE IN BUDGETS the cost doesnt matter

lives??

ahahahahah

you got to be kidding

destroycommunism | February 5, 2024 at 12:37 pm

“uk” >>>ukraine

Not one cent for the evil Ukraine war.

Mr. 10 % is personally responsible for most of the death and destruction by funding a war that should not have been fought.

Negotiate a treaty. Problem solved!

It becomes much easier to win your asylum claim, page 203 under the credible fear standard
in clause (v), by striking ‘‘significant possibility’’ and inserting ‘‘reasonable possibility’’;
They don’t actually shut the border down if the thresholds are met, page 219
‘(1) IN GENERAL .—During any activation of
the border emergency authority under subsection9
(b), the Secretary shall maintain the capacity to10
process, and continue processing, under section 235
or 235B a minimum of 1,400 inadmissible aliens
each calendar day cumulative

Another nugget that they don’t include in the raw numbers, they only count encounters, they do not include know got aways in the numbers. They can simply not monitor the border and let an unknown number of people in because they weren’t encountered even though we have evidence of them crossing at a non port of entry.

AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | February 5, 2024 at 2:38 pm

Congratulations America.

We have effectively surrendered our nation to millions of illegal military aged men, compliments of the Democratic Party and Establishment Republicans. Men from the far corners of the Earth have been given unfettered access and billions of our wealth.

All will be given voters rights, and then those voters will install a tyrannical regime that will remove all but democrat politicians.

Then the corrupt democrats and republicans, plus the global oligarchs will have the nation they always wanted.

Without a single shot being fired.

The first to be eradicated will be the Jews, followed by homosexuals, mouthy liberal women, and any other person who believes that being a thorn in the side of the establishment is a protected right.

I hope the protesters are the first to go. Useful idiots are the first on the firing line.

Wow. Melugin is really trying to carry the water for the RINOs, isn’t he?

I said a week or two ago that the fact that they were trying to lie about the leaks without actually releasing the bill showed it was probably much worse than the leaks, and I was 100% right.

This bill is a ‘compromise’ between people that want an open border, and people that wanted NO border.

There is not one single thing here that makes the border more secure, and in fact, makes it 100x harder for any future President or Congress to actually secure it.

1) The single provision that demonstrates this is crap is the fact that it mandates any legal challenge be conducted in the far-left swamp of the DC courts. That right there is an instant bill killer. No matter how carefully any of the rest is crafted (and its all crap all the way down), the DC swamp will simply declare any part of the bill they don’t like null.

2) The number isn’t 5000 per day. It has to be 5000 for SEVEN CONSECUTIVE DAYS, or 8500 in a single day

3) The only thing that happens when the magic number is hit is it mandates a ‘border emergency’, which can be ignored by the Secretary and President at their whim. And, in fact, if lawyers are to be believed, it means that a Republican President CANNOT shut down the border until 4000 per day has been hit!

4) Even if it were a hard limit, there’s an entire section of ‘exemptions’ that don’t count towards the total, from unaccompanied minors to illegals from ‘noncontiguous countries’, so the actual number of illegals is well over 10,000 per day before you hit the magic number of ‘non-exempt’ illegals

5) And we all know that they’d either intentionally reduce patrols to cut down the number of encounters, or just lie about the number anyway

6) It grants them the authority to arbitrarily grant asylum immediately and permanently, which we all know they would rampantly abuse

7) Further, anybody granted asylum is now AUTOMATICALLY given a work permit

8) The vast majority of the ‘$20 billion for border security’ that they’re spewing about is going to organizations HELPING THEM CROSS and giving them benefits when they get here

9) It gives a whole host of illegals FREE LEGAL COUNSEL (free as in paid for by actual citizens)

There’s probably more, but honestly that’s more than enough.

This bill isn’t even a joke. It’s a wet dream of far left demands with a tiny fig leaf of ‘security’ that can be revoked by the left any time they feel like it.

And what did the right ‘negotiate’? They got their $60 billion for Ukraine stuffed in it.

This bill is horrific.

    CommoChief in reply to Olinser. | February 5, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    This bill is hot garbage. It is ultimate Kabuki to provide a fig leaf to say ‘we did something’ to the Biden WH, d/prog and the rinos.

    Anyone supporting this is not in favor of border security but instead a potemkin sham. The whole argument that this is an opportunity for bipartisanship are full of it. There isn’t a ‘halt a loaf’ here to support this bill. IMO support for this bill should be a litmus test and those who choose to support it should be primaried and if that effort fails b/c the rino DC establishment pours in $, makes threats to sabotage efforts to remove them….fine eff them and go vote for the third party candidate instead.

    TargaGTS in reply to Olinser. | February 5, 2024 at 4:26 pm

    Fox News is absolutely DREADFUL. I knew they were going to push all-in after I read the WSJ editorial endorsing the bill….before it was even released. I’ve lost all respect for Melugian, one of the few on-air personalities that I actually liked. The rest aren’t worse a warm bucket of spit with the exception of Laura Ingahm. She’s been on fire on Twitter raging against this bill. We’ll see if network brass gets to her before her show starts in a few hours.

      Olinser in reply to TargaGTS. | February 5, 2024 at 4:43 pm

      Gutfeld talks sense at least some of the time. He’s not perfect but he’s a big step up from the rest of them.

TUCKER: Are you following what’s happening on the US southern border?

PUTIN: Actually yes. It’s part of my daily briefing. We Russians find it ironically amusing your Congress will spend billions protecting foreign borders but neglect it’s own. It’s quiet laughable but deadly.

TUCKER: Deadly? How do you mean that?

PUTIN: Deadly serious of course. People are dying daily crossing your border in an uncontrolled way. It is a free-for-all. The world hasn’t seen anything like it in the modern era – reckless for a country to throw itself wide open like that.

TUCKER: Is Russia taking advantage of the border situation in any way?

PUTIN: No. Why should we. We don’t have to do a thing. America is self destructing. And as Napoleon said, don’t stand in the way of your enemy destroying themselves.

https://amg-news.com/bombshell-tucker-carlsons-exclusive-interview-with-vladimir-putin-in-moscow-full-transcript-released/

    TargaGTS in reply to Neo. | February 5, 2024 at 4:35 pm

    This is going to be one of the biggest interviews of the last decade. While I guess anything is possible, I’m hugely skeptical a transcript of the interview would leak before Carlson had a chance to air it. I don’t see any motivation for the Kremlin to leak it either; the more views the interview gets, the better for them as well.

TUCKER: What is your opinion of President Biden?

PUTIN: We’re convinced he is not running the country. Let’s say we have good sources that confirm that but it’s plain for anyone to see for themselves. The US has now entered into a dark period. It has unaccountable leadership.

TUCKER: Do you think Joe Biden won fair and square?

PUTIN,/b>: I would rather not get into domestic American politics but will say my embassy reported your southern border was better run than that 2020 election. (chuckles)

So the lead democrat on this bill is Murphy of Conn., what do they produce in Conn? General Dynamics builds submarines there and guess what is in the bill and no one has talked about it. You got it, On page 34 of the bill there is $231 million dollars for o support improvements
to the submarine industrial base and for related expenses
Why wasn’t this is the Defense Authorization Act, and of course the entire bill is not subject to PAYGO provisions.

Subotai Bahadur | February 5, 2024 at 7:28 pm

They say DOA in the House. We cannot have any confidence that this is dead until this congressional session is over. There are always, ALWAYS Republicans who are willing and eager to betray their constituents for the temporary approval of the media and the Left.

It may be worth noting that from the 1830’s to 1856 the primary opposition to the Democrats [who later became the main party in the Confederacy] was the Whig Party. It was unable to hold together its voter base and leadership over slavery and other issues. By 1856, it was barely able to hold a national convention and the rise of other parties including the Republicans ended the Whigs.

Today the issues of national sovereignty and whether we have it, a universal rule of law, and electoral integrity mean that if the Republicans betray us on this; that their “Whig Moment” is almost certainly here. We know what happened after the first presidential election post-Whigs. That may have a bearing on what happens post-Republicans.

Subotai Bahadur

    henrybowman in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | February 6, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    But the political environment is different these days. Back then, political parties were still what they were envisioned to be: private associations dedicated to assembling and proposing slates of candidates to support a common set of policies… not virtual branches of government whose existence is all but inscribed into the constitution, and whose internal operations are now funded by your tax dollars.

    Most people don’t realize that the D and R conventions are paid for with your tax dollars, whereas the conventions of insurgent parties must be borne by themselves.

    Most people don’t realize that the “presidential debates,” while nominally prosecuted by “independent” (🤣) journalists, are also funded by your government taxes… and are a wholly owned production of the D and R parties, who set up all the rules for inclusion and exclusion and can invite or reject anyone they want (by setting up “objective” thresholds that conveniently vary so as to be just high enough to exclude other parties who have surpassed the threshold set for the previous iteration).