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Second Circuit’s Partial Upholding of New York’s Gun Carry Law Appealed to SCOTUS

Second Circuit’s Partial Upholding of New York’s Gun Carry Law Appealed to SCOTUS

“New York’s ‘good moral character’ standard is…a prohibited ‘suitability’ determination and, as the district court noted, is merely a surrogate for the ‘proper cause’ standard that was struck down in Bruen”

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We have been closely following the State of New York’s efforts to evade the U.S. Supreme Court’s (obviously) binding precedent regarding concealed carry of firearms, which was issued in June of 2022.

In that case, New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. Bruen, the Supreme Court held that New York’s previous statute, which conditioned the right to carry on a showing of some “special need” for self-defense, was unconstitutional: Supreme Court Strikes Down Restrictive New York Gun Licensing Law.

Kathy Hochul and company then got to work, enacting a new, extremely restrictive gun carry law mere days after the U.S. Supreme Court’s Bruen case was issued, which was even worse than the previous one that the Supreme Court struck down.

A federal judge struck it down. The Second Circuit allowed some points to stand.

The Plaintiffs in the case have filed a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court, asking them to take the case and overturn, at least in part, the Second Circuit’s decision.

Read the whole thing to get a good flavor of what it takes to get the Court to take a case, a truly daunting task (“the Court accepts 100-150 of the more than 7,000 cases that it is asked to review each year.”)

The key part of the Petition is its discussion of the New York law’s requirement that New Yorkers prove that they have “good moral character” before obtaining a concealed carry permit:

[T]his case would allow this Court the opportunity to clarify that government may not selectively disarm law-abiding members of “the people” whenever licensing officials feel they are of poor character, potentially dangerous, or otherwise unworthy of enjoying the natural right to self-defense with which they were endowed by their Creator….

In Bruen, this Court rejected New York’s requirement that, to be authorized to bear arms in public, citizens first must demonstrate “proper cause” — defined as “a special need for self-protection.” Here, the panel sanctioned New York’s stand-in requirement that citizens convince licensing officials of their “good moral character” prior to licensure. As the district court explained, New York simply “replaced” proper cause with good moral character, “while retaining (and even expanding) the open-ended discretion afforded to its licensing officers….”

New York’s “good moral character” standard is…a prohibited “suitability” determination and, as the district court noted, is merely a surrogate for the “proper cause” standard that was struck down in Bruen…Indeed, under the CCIA, New York officials decide whether a person “ha[s] the essential character, temperament and judgement necessary to be entrusted with a weapon….”

It is quite difficult to understand Bruen’s criticism of “suitability” not to include “good moral character.” And it is even more difficult to believe that this Court would approve the discretionary power to deny carry licenses to “all Americans” unless they first “convince a ‘licensing officer’” of their general morality.

[bold added; italics in original]

The Petition also focuses on the Second Circuit’s disregard of the framework established by the Supreme Court’s Bruen case:

If New York’s challenged law was its “Bruen response bill,” then the panel’s decision represents the Second Circuit’s “Bruen response opinion.” Brazenly, the panel repeatedly justified wholesale rejection of Bruen’s methodology, claiming that Bruen was an “exceptional” case, and that in “less exceptional” cases — like this one, apparently — courts are free to contrive their own approach. Audaciously, the panel repeatedly chastised the district court for having hewed too closely to Bruen. And in one instance, the panel faulted the district court for having “failed to properly appreciate” a historical analogue that appears never to have existed.

The panel’s repudiation of Bruen was no accident. In support of its rejection of this Court’s holdings, the panel referenced a law review article written as a playbook for “lower courts” to “mitigate” Bruen by “engag[ing] in the time-honored practice of ‘narrowing Supreme Court precedent from below.’”

Finally, the Petition notes that the Second Circuit’s opinion sets up a “circuit split” between the Second Circuit and other U.S. Courts of Appeal, meaning that the courts are interpreting Bruen differently, leading to citizens’ Second Amendment rights being handled differently based on where they live; a situation the Supreme Court typically takes a case to review and correct:

The panel’s decision conflicts directly with two other circuit courts that have addressed the issue. And while there was one circuit decision employing similar reasoning as the panel, it was vacated by a grant of en banc review [i.e. review by the entire court rather than a three-judge panel]. In addition to this circuit split, the federal district courts and state courts have failed to coalesce on a consistent standard, instead taking multiple inconsistent approaches most of which cannot be reconciled with Bruen.

The Supreme Court often takes cases involving a circuit split to foster uniformity in the law across the land (“The Supreme Court frequently agrees to hear cases to resolve circuit splits by creating a unified interpretation of the law which is then binding on all lower courts.”).

For one thing, it required New York State citizens desiring a concealed carry permit to disclose three years of all social media accounts for state bureaucrats to peruse, required citizens to demonstrate “good moral character,” outlawed concealed carry in every business open to the public, and outlawed concealed carry in almost every public place, including all parks and places of worship.

As we concluded when the new law was passed, “these requirements, taken as a whole mean that ‘basically, you cannot actually carry. The entire scheme is a willful and knowing evasion of a constitutional right.’”

So the new law was litigated as well, with a federal judge striking down almost the whole thing for violating the Second Amendment:

“U.S. District Court Judge Glenn Suddaby found critical parts of New York’s gun law, the Concealed Carry Improvement Act (CCIA), unconstitutional.” Not only did Northern District of New York Judge Suddaby, in Antonyuk v. Hochul, strike down almost all of the “sensitive places” prohibitions in the law, he also “blocked the part where applicants must prove “good moral character” and allow authorities to review their social media profiles.” That 184-page court decision, on Plaintiffs’ motion for preliminary injunction, can be found here.

New York appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which covers New York, Connecticut, and Vermont, in an attempt to undo Judge Suddaby’s comprehensive order and reinstate the law in full.

I attended the Second Circuit’s oral argument in Manhattan last March, Challenges to New York’s End Run Around SCOTUS 2nd Amendment Ruling Argued At Second Circuit, and in December of 2023, the Second Circuit issued its decision:

The Court’s 261-page opinion invalidates [the] requirement to provide social media to reviewing officials and bans on concealed carry in businesses open to the public and houses of worship, but lets some other provisions stand, such as the required showing of “good moral character” and the ban on concealed carry in “sensitive” public places

[emphasis added]

As we noted, after the ruling, gun-rights groups found the decision a mixed bag:

Gun Owners of America applauded the ruling:

Gun rights activists praised the court’s decision but said the judges failed to faithfully apply the Supreme Court’s precedent, arguing the entire law should be thrown out.

“Governor [Kathy] Hochul and her cabal in Albany never seem to get the message, and in turn, GOA is proud to have played a major role in rebuking her unconstitutional law,” Gun Owners of America (GOA) Senior Vice President Erich Pratt said in a statement.

“Nevertheless, this was not a total victory, and we will continue the fight until this entire law is sent to the bowels of history where it belongs,” Pratt added.

We predicted that “GOA’s attitude foreshadows what will almost certainly be a request to the U.S. Supreme Court to review the Second Circuit’s ruling,” and that “[t]he parties challenging the law will likely ask the Supreme Court to hold the good moral character provision…unconstitutional.”

The $64,000 question is whether the Supreme Court will take this case. The fact that there is a circuit split helps, but my prior prediction was “probably not”:

I base this on several factors:

  1. The Supreme Court only “accepts 100-150 of the more than 7,000 cases that it is asked to review each year,” or about one to two percent of cases submitted for review, so the chance of review in any case is slim.
  2. The Bruen case is so recent that the Court may not want to hear yet another gun case since it is already reviewing the Rahimi gun case this term. That case, United States v. Rahimi, concerns a challenge to “a federal law that bars anyone subject to a domestic-violence restraining order from possessing a gun.”
  3. The Second Circuit opinion splits the baby, striking down the social media provision and the ban on carry in houses of worship and businesses open to the public, while upholding the good moral character and sensitive places provisions. And it is 261 pages long and took nine months to write, which suggests that it is not so outlandish or one-sided that the Supreme Court might feel compelled to review it.

My opinion is bolstered by the fact that the Court has also granted review of the bump stock case, Garland v. Cargill, where the Court will decide whether a rifle equipped with a “bump stock” – an attachment that transforms a semiautomatic rifle into a weapon that can discharge hundreds of rounds per minute simply with one movement by the shooter – is a “machinegun,” which is generally prohibited under federal law.

If my prediction is correct, that would be extremely unfortunate, especially for me as a New York State citizen, because when I apply for my New York carry permit, I don’t need some government bureaucrat deciding whether I have “good moral character” or not. You would think 31 years of service in the U.S. Navy might be a factor in my favor. Still, if said bureaucrat doesn’t like what I have posted anywhere on Legal Insurrection or on social media, there is nothing stopping him or her from deciding against me.

We will, of course, keep you updated on whether the Supreme Court grants review in this case.

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Comments

destroycommunism | February 29, 2024 at 1:12 pm

how can we have a lefty society if people are allowed to defend themselves asks ho

UnCivilServant | February 29, 2024 at 1:20 pm

I really want to see the supreme court get annoyed and go “You Can’t be trusted to apply the law properly, so you go constitutional carry – no permits can be required.”

    I want to see them get annoyed to the point they tell Congress to dissolve the courts for failing to follow their duty of upholding the Constitution.

      henrybowman in reply to GWB. | February 29, 2024 at 2:41 pm

      Commie, freedom-sucking states will continue to play “but this law is different” until someone goes to prison. And I don’t see the necessary mechanism in place.

“good moral character”… deplorables need not apply. Only the most loyal and trustworthy members of the State (and The Party) need apply.

Goal? To make gun ownership “safe, legal … and rare”.

Fat_Freddys_Cat | February 29, 2024 at 1:44 pm

Obliging you to get a concealed carry permit to carry…nowhere. It’s a provocative concept.

    Obliging you to get permit in order to exercise a right is ridiculous

    DaveGinOly in reply to Fat_Freddys_Cat. | February 29, 2024 at 8:07 pm

    It’s absurd that the government will issue a permit and then claim you’re not to be trusted in certain spaces. If you’re not to be trusted in certain spaces, why were you issued a permit allowing you to carry anywhere at all?

      randian in reply to DaveGinOly. | February 29, 2024 at 8:53 pm

      You’re not to be trusted in certain places, and wanting to carry in them proves your bad moral character, for which we will deny your permit.

      Ironclaw in reply to DaveGinOly. | March 1, 2024 at 11:25 pm

      Why should said permit exist in the first place? It’s a right not a privilege. You shouldn’t need a permit

All of these court decisions are not going to actually solve anything. They’re all a bunch of high priests of Progressivism enacting their religious preferences.

The only way this arrogant totalitarianism will stop is if consequences are applied to the people writing unconstitutional laws and the people defending them (judges).

What New York State really needs is a “good moral character” requirement in order to serve in its government at any level.

destroycommunism | February 29, 2024 at 1:56 pm

Gun ownership is already legal

for allll criminals who want the weapons

and notice how many times weapons charges are dropped by the DA when a criminal who is not allowed to have a weapon,,has the weapons

we know why they do that

so that any carnage created by the criminals

CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST THE GOOD PEOPLE to suppress their rights to carry

    henrybowman in reply to destroycommunism. | February 29, 2024 at 2:55 pm

    Not really. A lot of times it’s because when they catch a bad guy, the charges they have against him are way worse than the gun charge, and a lot of times the gun charge would be served concurrently anyway, so it doesn’t make sense to waste money prosecuting the gun charge if it’s going to make no difference in how the guy is punished, even if he pleads.

    No, almost all gun charges are “technical”: your “possession” of a gun is bottom-line a victimless “crime” against the state — even if you are a felon — unless you actually do something bad with it. Gun charges is what you use to “get” someone that you otherwise can’t “get” in any other way. “Gun charges” are to your second-amendment rights what “broken taillights” are to your fourth.

If it’s permissible for a state to invoke a ‘good moral character’ standard for carrying a firearm (a constitutional right), then what’s to stop a different state from invoking a ‘good moral character’ standard for casting a ballot?

    MarkS in reply to TargaGTS. | February 29, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    corrupt judges

    alaskabob in reply to TargaGTS. | February 29, 2024 at 4:33 pm

    Overturning the veto of the Dem Governor of North Carolina, the legislature did away with the “good moral character” threshold for purchasing a handgun. The law had dated back to the glorious days of Jim Crow and targeted… Blacks….. and whomever else the local law did like. Dems love their Jim Crow laws and … Post CIvil War laws to suppress anyone they don’t like.

      DaveGinOly in reply to alaskabob. | February 29, 2024 at 8:23 pm

      This is why I don’t like the “historical precedent” model of judicial review. Many of this country’s earliest gun laws were meant to oppress certain elements of society that largely lacked the ability to contest the laws. A law’s early existence* and/or no successful challenges (and possibly no challenges to it at all) is not evidence that the law was constitutional. (Our courts don’t pronounce our laws “constitutional,” they pronounce them “not unconstitutional for the reasons argued.” So even when a law is upheld, that might just mean that it has not yet been challenged with the argument that would bring it down. This has a parallel in science, in which a theory that has been tested and passed is considered valid, until a test comes along and falsifies it. It only has to be falsified once to end up in the trash.) These metrics are useless for the purpose of assuring constitutionality.

      The Constitution itself, with an application of an understanding of it such as would have been held by those who wrote it, is the only measure of a law’s constitutionality.

      *Early existence itself being a terrible metric. The country had the grossly unconstitutional Sedition Act a few years after the First Amendment was ratified. “Early adoption” of a law, giving it a temporal nexus to the ratification of the Constitution, is no guarantee of the law’s constitutionality.

        henrybowman in reply to DaveGinOly. | March 1, 2024 at 7:21 pm

        Yes… however, what you describe is the precise reason that lefties are working like hell to get Bruen’s “early gun law” nexus moved from the latter 1700s to the latter 1800s, when their unconstitutional Black Codes (and Irish Codes in NY) were already solidly in place.

    Ironclaw in reply to TargaGTS. | March 1, 2024 at 11:26 pm

    Considering that most of the people in government have no moral character I don’t know how they would Define a good moral character

It wasn’t contemplated for self-defense.
It was contemplated so tyrannical elements of government would consider the possibility of being shot by citizens oppressed by their tyranny.

    henrybowman in reply to rduke007. | February 29, 2024 at 2:57 pm

    Of course, that’s just one particular subset of self-defense.

      TargaGTS in reply to henrybowman. | February 29, 2024 at 3:09 pm

      Exactly. Hamilton talks about this at length in Federalist 28:

      “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state.

When retards can’t figure out what shall not be infringed means…

I can see this petition for Cert being denied, with Thomas and Scalia dissenting.

Greasy and feckless Roberts will, of course, be all-too-happy at avoiding having to rule on a politically controversial case. The other “conservative” Justices seem totally indifferent to the Dhimmi-crats’ lawless evisceration of Second Amendment rights.

It’s a sad state of affairs when only two out of nine members of SCOTUS can consistently be relied upon to uphold the Constitution and citizen’s rights.

    guyjones in reply to guyjones. | February 29, 2024 at 6:16 pm

    “…with Thomas and *Alito* dissengint.”

    randian in reply to guyjones. | February 29, 2024 at 8:55 pm

    Of course they’re indifferent, that’s why they never defended Heller and let the lower courts eviscerate it. In the end Heller didn’t win anybody anything.

      henrybowman in reply to randian. | March 1, 2024 at 7:26 pm

      Heller has value, if only in serving as a permanent surveyor’s mark.

      Though written constitutions may be violated in moments of passion or delusion, yet they furnish a text to which those who are watchful may again rally and recall the people; they fix for the people the principles of their political creed.
      —Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Priestley, 1802. ME 10:325

Is there nothing that can be done about governors who sign legislation that is so nakedly intended to obstruct the will of the court? It seems like contempt court to me.

    DaveGinOly in reply to DaveGinOly. | February 29, 2024 at 8:27 pm

    “contempt of court”

    Milhouse in reply to DaveGinOly. | March 1, 2024 at 1:17 am

    No, nothing can be done. The courts have no authority over legislatures, and a governor’s consent to a bill is a legislative function. Also, the other two branches of government are entitled to their own opinion about the constitution. They’re not bound to agree with the judicial branch’s understanding. So they’re entitled to pass laws that are based on their understanding, and then it’s up to the courts to strike them down based on their understanding. Ultimately the courts win that contest: they can make the other branches comply, but they can’t make them agree.

Striking down the “good moral character” requirement is irrelevant if the public places ban remains. Sure you can have a permit, but you can’t use it to carry anywhere.

Governor Hochul
Wearing a face that she keeps
In a jar by the door.
Who is it for?

If there is no relief from the courts and the lower courts refuse to uphold the supreme court decisions, do we actually have rule of law? Sounds a lot like the left is trying to force rule of man upon us.