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Congressional Campus Antisemitism Hearing: “The three presidents were, frankly, fairly pathetic”

Congressional Campus Antisemitism Hearing: “The three presidents were, frankly, fairly pathetic”

My take on the hearings: “These presidents seem completely either oblivious or not being honest with what’s going on on campuses for them to say that they welcome diverse viewpoints on campus.”

The University Presidents of Harvard, U. Penn, and MIT testified today before the House Committee on Education and the Workforce about the antisemtism crisis on campuses after the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel.

You can watch the Full Hearing here.

BIG TAKE AWAY – 

THESE THREE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS ARE VERY UNIMPRESSIVE PEOPLE.

And I’m being generous.

The highlight of the hearing IMO was Elise Stefanik’s questioning on the genocidal chants by mobs of students rampaging through campuses: “Long Live The Intifada” “There is only one solution, Intifada, Revolution” “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free.” She asked the presidents if those chants on campuses violated the univerity’s own policies regulating campus speech. The obvious point is that having decided to regulate campus speech, the rules are not applied equally depending upon who the target is. Equivalent speech directed at ‘students of color’ never would be tolerated, but against Jews (or whites, I will add), no biggie.

You will recall she did a great job during Trump’s impeachment hearing (I forget which one).

She came prepared. Stefanik that is, not President Gay.

Some more highlights.

As the hearings were ongoing, but after I’d listened to over an hour, I appeard on Neil Cavuto’s show on Fox Business:

Transcript (auto-generated, may contain transcription errors)

Cavuto (00:00):

Thank you. Aisha Husney on Capitol Hill. Wanna go to William Jacobson, the Cornell University law professor. Professor, what do you think of this and what is your perception of whether that is a rampant issue, antisemitism at your fine school and some of these others?

WAJ (00:15):

It’s been a festering problem now for two decades on campuses. It’s a result of many different things. But one of the things that it’s most prominently a result of is the racialization of education where everything is viewed through a racial lens. And coalitions against Israel are built around students of color, their term, and Jewish students are singled out and cast aside as white oppressors. So it’s, it’s a real problem.

Cavuto (00:46):

Alright. We appear to be having some, audio problems there. Professor, again, if you could still hear me, we’re having some problem with your tracking here, but I think what you’re saying it is a problem. I’m just wondering then whether the efforts to get to the bottom of it and address it on Capitol Hill are are going to help. What do you think?

WAJ (01:04):

I think shining a spotlight on it is very important. I don’t think it will change any behavior. These presidents seem completely either oblivious or not being honest with what’s going on on campuses for them to say that they welcome diverse viewpoints on campus, whereas various congressmen pointed out there are almost no conservative professors on campus. Let me tell you one other thing. There are almost no openly pro-Israel professors on campus because they don’t get hired and when they do speak out, they get subject to targeting. So campuses are not diverse, they’re extremely anti-Israel, they’re anti-conservative and in many regards they’re anti-American.

Cavuto (01:44):

Now, is it your sense then that the Hamas attacks in Israel and then Israel’s response brought all of this out, until then it was sort of beneath the surface, because it certainly is wide out in the over now.

WAJ (01:59):

I think it was beneath the surface as far as national attention. Those of us who live on campuses, those of us who’ve been covering what’s been happening on campuses, there have been shout downs of conservatives, there have been shout downs of pro-Israel speakers. There’s been physical intimidation by groups like Students for Justice in Palestine, including at Cornell. So this has been going on, it just didn’t get the national attention that it’s now received.

Cavuto (02:25):

Professor, keep us posted on this. Hopefully, you know, cooler, wiser, more fair heads prevail here to make sure everyone gets a fair break. And this type of behavior is no longer warranted or accepted anywhere near your fine campus.

And at the end of the day, on EWTN, the largest Catholic television network in the U.S. and reportedly the largest religious network in the world.

Transcript (auto-generated, may contain transcription errors)

Tracy Sabel (00:00):

William Jacobson a Cornell University professor, great to be with you today. Talk to us about what you thought about the hearings and, and the main takeaways.

WAJ (00:09):

Well, I actually thought the three presidents were, frankly, fairly pathetic. They seemed to be either unaware of what’s happening at their campuses or unwilling to deal with it. Repeatedly throughout their testimony when they were questioned by various representatives, they would say, oh, we welcome all viewpoints, we welcome, we embrace everybody, we want to have this culture of acceptance on campus. But we all know that that’s not true. I’m on a campus, it’s not true. I’ve followed campuses for over 15 years, almost daily, and reported on them. So I really felt there was a disconnect there.

Sabel (00:45):

Yeah, and you know, it really is shocking some of the things that we’ve seen playing out on college campuses, also on your campus as well at Cornell. That being said, do you think it’s been enabled by university policy for years? And I know, you have said it’s kind of predictable.

WAJ (01:05):

Yeah, well, I’ve been predicting this for 15 years. Finally people are paying attention, not because of me, but because of events. I’ve been saying this racialization of everything, the balkanization of campuses under critical race theory, intersectionality, diversity, equity, and inclusion, there’s a lot of different names for it, but it forces students to view themselves through racial, ethnic, and other identity lenses rather than viewing themselves as individuals, each of whom is worthy in their own right to equal treatment under the law. They’re viewed as proxies for groups.

[talkover]

When you do that, you set students against each other.

Sabel (01:50):

One of the things that was talked about at the hearing today, the diversity of thought and talent on campus. What do you think can be done about that to kind of correct things? Should we hire more conservative faculty members?

WAJ (02:07):

I think the situation is so far gone with regard to diversity of viewpoint. There’s got to be outside pressure. The faculties are close to a hundred percent, at the elite institutions at least, like the three that were in Congress today, they’re almost a hundred percent not just not conservatives, they’re hostile to conservatives. They’re hostile to half the country’s voters. They are in feel insulated from any sort of public pressure. And I think that it’s unhealthy and it provides a monoculture on campuses that cannot reform itself. Something’s going to have to be done. With regard to public universities that can easily be done through budgets. Florida, I think, is on the right track, eliminating and defunding the DEI budgets, but even the federal government, maybe not under this administration, but another one should put financial pressure because they cannot reform internally.

Sabel (03:04):

We have about 20 seconds left or so, professor, but quickly, can you give us an overview of what the situation is like right now on your campus?

WAJ (03:12):

I think things have calmed down considering how horrible they were a month ago. You know, death threats against students, a student arrested by the FBI. Right now the anti-Israel students are pretty much run amok. They’ve taken over the president’s office. They’re trying to pressure the administration. So it’s not a healthy situation, but it’s one that the administration appears unable to deal with.

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I am glad congressmen came with the receipts that none of those universities respect diverse viewpoints.

Even if they had there are legal obligations by Universities that are both state and federal.

The Dean being an anti-Semite is perfectly legal.

The dean running an unsafe environment for Jews to the point where it is permitted to prevent them from attending class?

Tell me you think that would fly if it was blacks.

If the DoJ still featured someone with integrity there would be investigations of those schools right now.

So, lets ask these three AA presidents this, “You’re okay with chants of ‘From the river to the sea Palestine will be free’ on campus. And if another bunch of students put on white sheets and paraded around campus saying, ‘From Sea to Shining Sea, We Shall be N ger Free, ‘ you’d be okay with that too?”

Than that wouldn’t be an “issue”?

    ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to fscarn. | December 5, 2023 at 9:58 pm

    You don’t even have to go that far. An Israeli kid got basically tossed out of Penn (run out of Penn, IIRC) for calling a bunch of black girls a Yiddish or Hebrew name, roughly translated as “water buffalo”, when they were out at midnight stepping or playing drums or some other stupid loud stuff in the Quad and annoying everyone, while all the real students were trying to sleep or study because they were at the overly expensive school to actually learn something. They were all “so offended” by a name that they didn’t even know until the newspaper gave a translation.

    Penn sided with the idiots who were dancing loudly at midnight, keeping the real students awake. Yep … that must have been 30 years ago, I think.

      As I recall it, he called them “water buffalo” in English, which was his guess at the English word for בהמה (“animal”, or more specifically “farm animal”; in Yiddish it means “cow”). I really don’t know how he came up with “water buffalo”. But he was not tossed out of Penn, nor run out, nor anything like that. He was brought up on charges of racial harassment, but after he refused to settle and made it a cause celebre, the accusers eventually dropped the charges.

        ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Milhouse. | December 6, 2023 at 2:19 am

        My memory is going with age. What can I say? I thought I remembered him heading back to Israel midway through the term. I guess not.

        ahad haamoratsim in reply to Milhouse. | December 6, 2023 at 1:24 pm

        Eden Jacobowitz if memory serves.

        Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | December 7, 2023 at 12:59 am

        I just turned 61. I still train every day. But I can’t kid myself. If I was still capable of doing more hurt than just managing to get in the way I’d be on the next plane to Israel

    JohnSmith100 in reply to fscarn. | December 6, 2023 at 9:39 am

    I have redefined from the river to the sea to mean expulsion of those Arabs currently squatting in Palestine as edible garbage which should be fed to endangered sharks in the sea. two species which they could help survive.

Subotai Bahadur | December 5, 2023 at 9:38 pm

The key truth to take from this is that no matter how “pathetic” the college presidents appeared, nor how much they were pressed in the Congressional hearing; neither the questions nor the answers will have any effect in the real world in today’s America on either the schools or Congress. They are all playing a game.

Subotai Bahadur

You are being way to kind when you call their responses pathetic. It was disgusting. Did you notice that the University of Penn president had a smirk on her face when she refused to directly answer Stefanik’s question whether the call for genocide violated the school’s code of ethics. Did you also notice that all three gave the same answer to that question? By saying it depends, they were attempting to use the legal definition of harassment to avoid answering the question. Anti-Semitism is alive and well on college campuses not just because of progressive students and Muslims, but because the administration is willing to tolerate it.

    CommoChief in reply to Richard. | December 6, 2023 at 8:23 am

    Yeah. The lack of a follow up questions along the lines of:
    1. Would you say in general it would be a violation and that any instance where it wasn’t a violation would be the rare exception to rule?’
    2. ‘well ok, provide us an example of how it wouldn’t be a violation in the context of antisemitism.
    3. Would your campus codes, as it stands now, allow similar actions by those opposed to trans ideology?

    Give them the rope to hang themselves. Then offer up legislation to force them to live by the BS they try to sell. Tie Federal funding including student loans to it. Add in tax policy changes that revoke tax free status for endowments for failure to adhere to it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | December 5, 2023 at 9:52 pm

Three chick university presidents who all just happen to be morons. Gay is the dumbest (and the ugliest – but she’s pretty much always the ugliest person in the room). The whole spectacle just showed how pathetic the “top” universities have gotten.

Frankly, I expect this sort of idiocy from Hah-vahd and Penn (they’ve always hated Jews in the Ivies) but the way that MIT has run to catch up in their commie-worship with these despicable tax-frauds … that is really sad. Sure, MIT has always had its share of commies in the faculty but for the school administration to follow the America-hating commie Ivies into the cesspool … truly pathetic.

A difficult position of these college presidents. If they admit that advocating for the genocide of Jewish people is against their codes of conduct, they’ll have to sanction or expel most of their faculty and student body.

It is shameful, and a revelation when you come to understand you have more brains and morals than so many that run things and occupy undeserved positions of power, except on paper or by connections.

Truly dumb people with dumb ideas that they are not subject to, tryting to convince the rest they are superior in intellect and judgment. Borders on fraud.

    And to think that words are violence!

    We should look into the processes by which these particular presidents were promoted. Who is on the boards of trustees and selection committees. For them to be speechless when John James asked what they’re doing about the problem means they are doing nothing and don’t want to reveal anything. It’s like a sinister enemy force has taken over these campuses, and as taxpayer supported institutions, we need to get to the bottom of it.

    As an intermediate step while the investigation proceeds, we should consider cutting off federal student loans to students attending these campuses, or at least new students or students starting new degree programs there. That would make a difference in a hurry. I bet almost all these “pro-Palestinian” students receive massive almost-free rides, and we need to regain discretion over who gets our money and help to attend these universities.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. You can be a leftist or you could be a good person, you cannot be both

Is it just me or is it odd that the 3 presidents are all older women, and that the 2 in charge of prestigious institutions, have their PhDs? It seems statistically curious. Does it reflect something about the culture of said institutions?

“It depends on the context”.

In what context is a call to kill all Jews become acceptable at those 3 dumb broad’s schools?

    robertthomason in reply to Sanddog. | December 6, 2023 at 11:16 am

    They are all followers of John Dewey. When they can’t answer the question of who do you support – the babies or the baby killers – based on “context” then you know they lack moral clarity.

Much like the diversity hire Police Chiefs, DA’s and Mayors, they are not competent and can’t do the job but they do tick a box.

I watched this live at my desk yesterday. I am disgusted and stunned at the complete lack of compassion and empathy these people showed.

The manner in which President Gay intentionally failed to answer Rep. Stefanik with a yes or no but, then, just as intentionally answered questions from the other side with those simple words was a slap in the face to Ms. Stefanik as well as the rest of us. The smirk on her face said it all if you did not believe what she said.

Rep. Stefanik is my new hero. DO NOT SEND YOUR KIDS TO COLLEGE.

E Howard Hunt | December 6, 2023 at 8:00 am

We never should have entered ww2.

    Because appeasement was working out so well? Sit back and watch as the japanese navy plundered whatever they wanted in the pacific basin, including port cities off the west coast, australia, panama canal, other? The so-called japanese greater east asia co-prosperity sphere was planned to extend far beyond east asia.

    robertthomason in reply to E Howard Hunt. | December 6, 2023 at 11:26 am

    Why? We didn’t “enter” WWII. Tomorrow is the 82nd anniversary of the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. Hitler declared war on the US. I’m sure they didn’t teach you these important facts of US history at your college or university.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to E Howard Hunt. | December 6, 2023 at 11:27 am

    If we hadn’t entered WW2 Nazi’s would have had nukes. They damn near did beat us to the nuke.

    ahad haamoratsim in reply to E Howard Hunt. | December 6, 2023 at 1:38 pm

    Exactly. The fact that the imperial Japanese Navy attacked our basin Pearl Harbor was strictly our own fault for being colonialist, settlers, intend and committing genocide against the Japanese, and just look at how many innocent Japanese and German civilians died. Why, Germany and Japan have not recovered to this day!

The fact that non-threatening speech by conservatives is punished and threatening speech (and riots, too) by Hamas supporters goes unpunished doesn’t faze these presidents.

The three reminded me of Cabinet members like Mayokas and Garland and others like FBI head Wray, who have been well-programmed to admit to no obvious truth at all, “Yes or No” questions make them all curl up or lose consciousness.

These university presidents know they are safe and have plenty of cover. They have no fear of anything and can speak jibberish non stop. Wielding power is why they are there.

Academia and media can get away with this because for them to rise above the level of sewage is not possible. This is their comfort zone.

Not 1 federal dollar to any college supporting Antisemitism.

It really wasn’t too long ago that these places wouldn’t admit a Jew. Now they admit them but encourage other students to threaten their lives. And then lie about it to Congress.

In other words, progress has been an illusion.

    RonF in reply to irv. | December 6, 2023 at 1:47 pm

    The Institute has always admitted Jews. Heck, back in the 70’s one of my fraternity brothers was from a kibbutz.

Rep. John James cut to the heart of the matter. These presidents aren’t doing a damned thing about it. I thought MIT would be better, the new president talked a good game, but when the thugs took over Building 7 lobby that everyone has to walk through, it’s sort of the main pedestrian entrance to campus on the front side, she let them do as they wished and harass Jewish students and prevent them from passing through the lobby.

I don’t think such a thing would have been enabled at Cornell. The ugly remarks against Jews made by one Cornell professor occurred off campus, where the university could not directly control it.

Speaking as an alum, I say MIT needs a major cleaning out, but with the tenure system that may be impossible. Maybe it’s no longer the critical national asset it used to be. Certainly the undergraduate admissions office needs an overhaul.

    The President of M.I.T., Dr. Sally Kornbluth, has only been on the job since May and has no connection to M.I.T. from before then. So you can’t blame her for the history there.

    On Oct. 11th there was a pro-Israel rally on the M.I.T. campus. It proceeded without incident. A few weeks ago there was a pro-Palestinian demonstration on campus that blocked the main street entrance to M.I.T. for hours. The people running it had been told beforehand that doing so was a violation of M.I.T. policy. They did it anyway. Counter-protesters showed up. Pres. Kornbluth and other M.I.T. officials showed up. They told everyone to leave on pain of discipline up to and including suspension/expulsion if they stayed. The counter-protesters left, as did some of the protesters. But many of the pro-Palestinian protesters stayed until they were eventually dispersed by the campus police.

    Those last were placed on interim restrictions until their cases are heard by the Committee on Discipline. This is SOP and was not invented just for them. It means that they are banned from campus except for attending classes – no social or extracurricular activities. The CoD will give them due process and then we’ll see. A storm of alumni have contacted the Institute and let them know that we want to see severe sanctions against the offenders. M.I.T. alumni include some very influential people (including Benjamin Netanyahu, B.S. ’75, M.B.A. ’76, although he’s a little busy right now) at all levels of business and government, so she can’t just ignore them.

    Pres. Kornbluth has only been on the job since May and has no previous connection to M.I.T., so she’s not to blame for the existing situation on campus. The people involved in that demonstration had been told beforehand that it violated M.I.T. policy. After it had gone on for a while (which should not have been allowed) she did eventually tell everyone to leave on pain of discipline. Most left, some did not. They’ve been placed on interim sanctions (can only be on campus for classes, nothing else) until the Committee on Discipline hears their cases.

    A lot of alumni have contacted her to let her know that the offenders need to see severe sanctions, up to and including expulsion. We’ll see what happens.

Jonathan Cohen | December 6, 2023 at 10:51 am

I think the hearing did not get to the problem faced by Jews on college campuses. The antisemitism is primarily due to Jews being identified as supporters of the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. The agitation against Israel has been going on for a long time on college campuses. It is impossible to have an honest discussion of this campus phenomenon without putting it in the context of the political question of American support for Israel.

Sadly, virtually the entire Muslim world considers the presence of a majority Jewish entity inside an area that is majority Muslim to be some kind of insult. The fact that Israael’s population and land area constitute maybe one percent of their world makes the existence of Israel even more problematic for them. Having made the elimination of Israel an important part of their identity, it is terribly humiliating not to achieve it. The Arabs of Palestine and surrounding states never accepted Jewish migration to their ancestral home or the Jewish purchase of land in the area.

They have never truly accepted anything less than the destruction of Israel and the expulsion of most of its Jewish population. The two state solution is the figment of the imagination of liberals in the west including liberal Jews like Bernie Sanders and Anthony Blinken. The Arabs have agreed to temporary cease fires and truces only so they could lick their wounds and prepare for the next battle to destroy Israel.

For years, attempts on campus to advocate for Israel on college campuses has been met with disruption of speakers, shouting down of Israeli spokes people and in some cases harassment of Jewish students and faculty who openly advocated for Israel.

The purpose of this harassment is explicitly political. It is to silence voices that support Israel in order to dominate the debate over the issue in the United States and force the US government to withdraw its support for the Jewish state.

The opposition in the US to Israel is coming from three sources. The first is Muslim immigration to the United States. Whatever view Muslims hold about Jews personally, they are united in their hostility to Israel. The second is the growth of anti-Zionism among activist black politicians, media personnel, entertainers and academics. There is a kind of chic antisemitism and as white liberals generally are deferential to the opinions of black activists, they echo their hostility to Israel or at least try to rationalize it. The third problem is the attachment of Jewish institutions, both religious and civic, to the Democratic Party which is increasingly dominated by woke politics which considers Jews to be part of white supremacy.

I find it problematic that many Jewish voices that are rightly upset about what they are seeing on college campuses, conceptualize the problem as the failure of the woke progressives to accept Jews as victims. This is absurd. Jews are not oppressed or hated by Americans. We Jews have thrived in America and it is absurd to demand to be included in the victim Olympics.

Chuck Schumer’s speech on antisemitism gave a persuasive explanation of why Jews feel threatened by the hatred for Israel but he seemed oblivious to his own complicity in his party’s abetting it.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Jonathan Cohen. | December 6, 2023 at 11:37 am

    ” inside an area that is majority Muslim”

    Then fix the problem of too many Muslims in that region.

    robertthomason in reply to Jonathan Cohen. | December 6, 2023 at 11:40 am

    You’ve given an outstanding presentation. As a gentile, I would add that this conflict goes beyond the extermination of the state of Israel. This radical movement is committed to the extermination of all Jews. The two-state solution of India and Pakistan gives us a vivid example how a “two-state solution” will not bring peace to this conflict between Jews and Arabs.

Capitalist-Dad | December 6, 2023 at 11:21 am

My favorite low-lights:

Harvard’s Gay pretending a generic question about what has been done to punish violations of (supposed) Harvard rules by pro-terrorists was some sort of HR violation to answer.

Penn’s Magill exclaiming, “I’m devastated to hear that,” as if the Congressman’s statement about actual threats and violence was some sort of revelation. She’s not that clueless, so she might just as well have added, “…the dirty k-kes never mentioned it to me until this hearing.” That’s what a lowlife she is.

Prof. Jacobson, thank you. I came here for this.

The professors and students ginning up these threat-and-intimidation sessions are lying their asses off about relevant, recent history. There’s an answer to this, and it is education.

I was around for the Gaza Flotilla episode, where the whole world seemed to support the Palestinians over the humanitarian disaster that turned out to be a total crock.

The Palestinians lie about everything, and once their lies get exposed, support melts away, every time, because most people do not support genocide of their neighbors.

The President of M.I.T., Dr. Sally Kornbluth, has only been on the job since May and has no connection to M.I.T. from before then. So you can’t blame her for the history there.

On Oct. 11th there was a pro-Israel rally on the M.I.T. campus. It proceeded without incident. A few weeks ago there was a pro-Palestinian demonstration on campus that blocked the main street entrance to M.I.T. for hours. The people running it had been told beforehand that doing so was a violation of M.I.T. policy. They did it anyway. Counter-protesters showed up. Pres. Kornbluth and other M.I.T. officials showed up. They told everyone to leave on pain of discipline up to and including suspension/expulsion if they stayed. The counter-protesters left, as did some of the protesters. But many of the pro-Palestinian protesters stayed until they were eventually dispersed by the campus police.

Those last were placed on interim restrictions until their cases are heard by the Committee on Discipline. This is SOP and was not invented just for them. It means that they are banned from campus except for attending classes – no social or extracurricular activities. The CoD will give them due process and then we’ll see. A storm of alumni have contacted the Institute and let them know that we want to see severe sanctions against the offenders. M.I.T. alumni include some very influential people (including Benjamin Netanyahu, B.S. ’75, M.B.A. ’76, although he’s a little busy right now) at all levels of business and government, so she can’t just ignore them.

This is what you get when DIE ideology is used to select university (P)residents.

Not just useless – WORSE than useless,

This Cowboy Loves Israel:

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Late to this thread, but my comments, anyway.

IMHO, repeatedly demanding a “yes” or “no” answer to a question is pretty weak tea in situations like this. The questioner should have anticipated and been ready for this answer, and others, and trapped the witnesses in their own positions.

An EASY way to have gone at any of these people, particularly Harvard’s nauseatingly smug Claudine Gray, would have been to change the question; here’s an example: ‘Does (is) calling for the mass violence and genocide of BLACKS considered harassment or bullying according to Harvard’s own code of conduct? Either “context” would disappear in a heartbeat or the Smug One would be trapped forever by her words in the eyes of blacks, diversity wonks, and I-told-you-so racists. She’d have spent the rest of her life explaining away her statement.

That said, this unimpressive trio was really sad, but they still get their official I-Testified-Before-a-Congressional-Committee club certificates and lapel pins and join the ranks whose members include such esteemed notables Lois Lerner, James Comey, Hillary Clinton, and most recently Christopher Wray. Congratulations all.

And, oh yeah, the hearing – so what? To repeat ‘out of context’ the infamous quote of one of the club members, “What difference does it make now?”

Is it possible to pull their federal funding?

2smartforlibs | December 7, 2023 at 1:39 pm

Proof again nepotism exists. These losers are not even close to qualified for the position but their connections got it.

As Candace Owens stated recently; “To survive the woke culture, you have to become a liar.”