Kari Lake Files Paperwork to Run for Sinema’s Arizona Senate Seat
The campaign is likely to kick off on September 10 in Scottsdale.
It bothers me when people just cannot stay away from politics. Looking at you, Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry. Many others, too.
Failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate and mega Trump supporter Kari Lake filed papers to run for the Senate seat currently occupied by now-Independent Kyrsten Sinema:
Republican Kari Lake’s U.S. Senate campaign formally filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission on Tuesday, a week ahead of her scheduled public announcement.
The former TV newscaster who has served as a prominent surrogate for former President Donald Trump’s campaign has turned to the treasurer of her failed gubernatorial campaign to hold a similar role with her Senate bid.
Youssef Khalaf of 100 Squared Financial is the treasurer and record-keeper for a long-expected campaign that is in its early stages.
Lake is seeking the GOP nomination to challenge for the Senate seat held by incumbent Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I-Ariz.
Lake has scheduled an event in Scottsdale on September 10. Lake’s senior advisor, Caroline Wren, confirmed she would open her campaign with an event on that date.
Sinema has not yet announced her intention to run again. But if she does, then it would be a three-way race.
Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb has already announced his candidacy for the Republican nomination. He has not raised many funds, but so far, it doesn’t look like he will drop out.
Blake Masters, who lost to Sen. Mark Kelly last year, might also join the Republican field.
Rep. Ruben Gallego is the only top Democrat in the race.
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Seems to me the thing that disqualifies her in your opinion is who she supports.
Seems to me that if there were in fact more people like Lake in Politics we wouldn’t be in the shit hole situation we are in now where men are men and men can also be women and people can just become something else on a whim.
What are you talking about? Mary doesn’t “disqualify” Lake, she is just reporting on her bid. The only thing even remotely disapproving is the note that some people just don’t belong in politics, like Lake. I agree with this view, but it’s not anti-Trump; in Mary’s case, she seems to be just noting the obvious: Lake is not a politician, has never held any elected office, and is just riding the grift at this point.
Which, to my mind, begs the question, why are Only Trumpers so freaking touchy about anything that isn’t gushing support for Trump and his merry band of fakes? (See, that was me calling Lake out, she hated Trump until she thought jumping on the Trump train would help her (it hasn’t), then she’s suddenly your hero. /smh)
Oh I dunno….maybe the reason “Trumpers” get a bit touchy is because with certain pretend conservatives who get more outwraaaaaaaged by mean tweets than they do by the politicisation of every branch of the Government by Democrats who needs liberals eh? 😂
You’re so cute, mailman. So are you accusing me of being a “pretend conservative”? Because I don’t support Trump for the GOP nom, right? Me. A pretend conservative. Really? That’s just crazy talk, and you have to know it.
It’s not that you don’t support Trump but more to do with how conservatives like you get more outraged by mean words than political targeting of people Democrats decide are enemies of the State.
What? I spent FOUR YEARS explaining, deconstructing, and defending Trump’s “mean words.” You were here for it all. And now you want to tell me that my problems with Trump are frivolous because they can only be about “mean words”? Really?
I don’t like, completely condemn, and am very worried about the precedent of the Biden admin persecution of their political opponent. It’s completely wrong, vile, corrupt, and banana republic BS that has NO place in our great country.
It cannot stand.
I can loathe this and still believe that Trump is not the best person to take the presidency in 2025. In fact, that’s exactly what I believe. What is happening is horrific, embarrassing, and (frankly) quite frightening, and because of the import of it, I believe we need an effective, competent president who won’t be swayed by fawning lies (you know that you can get into Trump’s private circle by praising him, right? Of course, go in knowing it won’t last, there is not one person he has appointed, hired, or campaigned with that he hasn’t stabbed in the back. Over and over. Often gratuitously. To make himself look better on the backs of those he’s stabbed. So disgusting!).
What is happening to Trump is shameful, but it doesn’t earn him my vote. I don’t cast pity votes and could never vote for a candidate so weak that he counts on pity to win. That just screams slimy politician to me.
But hey, when Trump says he screwed up on WuFlu, that he’ll never do the same things again; when he says he was just joking about taking the guns first and worrying about due process later; when he says that he was wrong to suggest that his butt-hurt over 2020 required our tossing the Constitution on a dumpster fire . . . I MIGHT consider voting for him. As is, there is no way in hell he gets my primary vote. None. Zero. Zip.
It’s not that you don’t support Trump. it’s that you don’t seem to support anyone on the right.
People who are actually ON the right “just don’t belong in politics” as you say.
So that’s the concern.
And it’s a pretty consistent one.
Mean tweets?
Lake’s idiotic maneuvering since the last election has only served to convince far too many moderate voters that she was unfit to be governor in the first place. Not to mention her pre-election Hillary-esque choice to mock those in her own party who had backed McCain as deplorables. Talk about brilliant campaigning! She is unhinged, and has and will in the long run do more damage than good.
It’s not about “mean tweets”. It’s about never understanding that sometimes it’s best just to STFU, instead of constantly exposing yourself as a petulant, thin-skinned little prima donna who can’t resist lashing out like a half-witted sixth-grade bully every time he thinks – justifiably or not – that someone has slighted him in some way.
Mate, she aint gonna date you 😂
Do you mean me or Kari? Kari likely won’t, but who knows, I might! 😛
“It bothers me when people just cannot stay away from politics.”
Cut the crap, and stop treating us as idiots.
You pretend conservatives just love your games. You were against Trump until you were for him, then you were against him again.
You think will will just follow you and get on our knees for Saint Ron. The RINO flavor of the week. You tell us that we should “hold our noses and vote for him anyway.” You tell us that we won’t.
Well let yesterday be the first shot. We are tired of your power politics and losing. We won’t go along with the Robert Michels.
These politicians push away moderates and then people cry about it, “wah. you’re a traitor establishment person now!”
Um, you know I didn’t write this post (or that line you quoted), right? FDS is so hilarious. And really rather flattering.
Your case of TDS is so overwhelmingly toxic that you don’t even see it anymore. I long for a world where non-politicians regularly get elected to bring fresh thought into DC and elsewhere. You now are pure establishment – and that is sad.
That’s just dumb. I am not “establishment” by any stretch of anyone’s imagination. Never was, am not, and never will be. But you keep imagining that everyone who isn’t supporting Trump in the GOP primary but is willing to vote for him in the general is “establishment.” It’s absurd. And childish.
Yeah, Kari is “riding the grift.” She’s making money hand over fist, spending her life unsuccessfully suing the Desert Swamp.
Far from it. Kari is principled and has fire in her belly. As for her hate/love for Trump, she had the same kind of epiphany in her newsroom experience that Naomi Wolf had with her vaccine investigation experience. Both are classic cases of liberals getting mugged, then redpilled. Conversions happen. (I myself was once a contributor to Handgun Control. People grow, discover lies, and shake them off. It’s the people who never do that you should worry about.)
Sinema is frantic. After four years of imperious press releases (“Protecting Women’s Health Care,” “Sinema votes to preserve Arizona water rights,” “Celebrating the Inflation Reduction Act”), suddenly she’s up in my e-mailbox’s grill two, three, even FOUR times every day, begging for my approval (and my FRNs) like a whipped cocker puppy.
“One last ask.” “Our office is here for you.” “Krysten’s missing your reply.” “Real solutions for you!” Today’s is, “What’s on your mind?” Three years, she didn’t give a * what was on my mind, she did what she damn well pleased. Now she “cares.”
Sinema sees the robe and sickle approaching. ◼️’n A.
If I lived in Arizona, I would vote for Sinema over Lake. Sinema has principles, Lake has changed hers completely (from rabidly anti-Trump to rabidly pro-Trump). I don’t trust that one tiny bit.
I don’t think Lake should win but not being a politician or holding previous office is in no way a disqualification. I also agree if Trump decides to jettison her for political reasons, every single one of his crazier followers will suddenly realize they hate her too. lol.
I don’t she can win, so I don’t she should run. We need to be able to edit, lol
Well there’s enough suspicious about the last governor’s election that I strongly suspect Lake won it, which would have been a successful “Trumpian” political career, from non-politician to a high office.
I have very mixed feelings about Trump. He could never be elected mayor of NYC, or governor of NY state, but he managed to become president. It makes sense to just keep trying and going for it really hard and hoping to get lucky. The perpetual losers and jokes (Harold Stassen for president?) sort of go thru the motions and don’t try and don’t have a plan that could possibly work.
@ Ms. Slippers
Why do you actually try to have a discussion with these Only Trumpers. Nothing you or anyone else says will ever change their minds about Saint Donnie Trump and all you’ll get from trying to have a rational discussion with them is a lot of wasted time and a bad headache to boot. They simply will not tolerate any negative criticism of Trump or as you put it his “merry band of fakes”.
The only thing I wish they’d do at this point is mosey on over to
truthsocial.comwhere they can post their Only Trumper nonsense to their hearts content in their own little echo chamber with all the other Only Trumpers where no one would ever deign to disagree with them or call them out.Very Progressive of you…
I hear you, Lucifer, and I usually don’t bother, but every now and then I can’t help myself. It’s amusing to me to poke them with sticks and watch them cry. Does that make me a bad person? Or, worse!, does that make me like Trump? Gaaahhhh! 😛
I agree
She didn’t fail either, it was stolen…
Yep, every single Trump supporter who lost their election had it “stolen” from them. Every. Single. One. (give me a beak)
Wait until you see what Democrats have been saying every time they lose an election 😂😂😂
Oh, no. He knows what Democrats say when they lose elections.
He says it.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s not the own you think it is. (Give it a think)
Not what we said. But on the evidence, it’s quite a few.
She lost a very winnable race, that is disqualifying isn’t it?
Arizonans don’t like being told fuck you which is exactly what a Kari Lake nomination means.
Mark Kelly defeated her male clone Blake Masters very easily, it could happen again.
Go back to your office at the Lincoln Project, Danny, your clue phone is ringing.
How about you stop being an asshole in a hat Henry?
You get the respect you give jackass.
She lost a very winnable race.
For senate her male clone Blake Masters got 46%.
Renominating either of them after they lost and pretended to win (in other words telling the swing voters who decided they shouldn’t win fuck you instead of acknowledgig them) is how to lose.
So next time you associate me with child molesters here is a hint.
1. Fuck you Henry you are an asshole
2. Fuck you
3. Fuck you
4. Go to hell
5. Go straight the fuck to hell
Other Republicans who aren’t mindless cultist assholes like you get called child molestors for bringing up extremely provable facts (if Kari Lake had won she would be governor)?
How about fuck you.
The actual articles posted by the professor and others here are extremely important and eye opening.
The comments here however aren’t just everything that is wrong with the Republican Party but everything wrong with humanity.
Remember the way when patriotic Muslims stood for their American flag what they got from the LI commentariat was a giant desire for genocide?
Yes I am calling it out. I wish LI hid the comments under their articles so I could actually share them. I also am passed where I care if I get banned, the commenters here are exhausting and stupid and life is too short to deal with that too often.
I used to think we had some political disagreements no more.
Call me a pedophile and my only further word for you is Fuck you and Go to Hell.
What you are is a false-flagger. A trans-Republican. A neo-con.
(The Lincoln Project people may also be pedophiles, but in this case, it’s irrelevant.)
I’ll have to learn how to live without your respect.
“I wish LI hid the comments under their articles so I could actually share them.”
And on that note…
Henry, I think it’s probably fair to say that Danny is a neocon based on his comments over the years, but he is also very much NOT a false flagger or whatever a “trans-Republican” is (weirdo term I hope you didn’t pick up at the nuthouse). In my opinion, he’s kind of an old school Bush-Cheney Republican, but unlike most of them, he doesn’t want to see our country destroyed (i.e. doesn’t seem to be totally progressive; he is pro-defunding the military, pro-war, and pro-some other stuff that’s very neoconny, but he’s also expressed his opposition to DIE, anti-racist crap, etc., things that faction totally loves), so let’s not be painting with broad brushes here.
One of the things that we used to take pride in on the right was that we were a genuinely big tent party, that we could all agree to disagree on some things as long as the big stuff was still the same. And with Danny, the big stuff is still the same: he loves America, the Constitution, and our republic. He may have different ideas on some things than many of us do (and than ALL Only Trumpers do), but he’s still “one of us.”
But now that Trump’s happened, there is no “us” anymore, there is Trump and not Trump, and that is the very definition of a cult of personality, no? I’m not really loving this new you’re either with Trump or you hate America crap, to be honest. It’s facile and divisive.
Danny, you can share our articles. The comments are often disappointing, but we have some great people here (including some of the Only Trumpers) who deserve to be heard. The problem is that most of our readers don’t comment because they don’t want to deal with the Only Trumpers at all. (Can’t blame them, but then it looks like there is far more support here for Trump than there really is.)
If you lost statewide, why run statewide again? What has changed that will allow to win this seat?
For one thing, all the work she put in to exposing the state’s and Maricopa County’s election process incompetence/deceit (take your pick). She may not have won, but she did a Sherman’s March across the establishment. People lost their jobs and “chose not to run for re-election/re-appointment” due to some of the dirt she dig up… and made stick.
She may be too much of a firebrand for people to be comfortable with her as the Governor of the state, but utterly trustworthy when she’d be 1 of 100 senators making arguments in favor of conservatism on behalf of the state. And…she didn’t lose by much, and I believe a lot of squishy McCain Republicans may now be regretting voting for Katie Hobbs.
“It bothers me when people just cannot stay away from politics.”
Under the author’s view of things Lincoln should never have been President I guess
I can’t speak for Mary, but I’m not completely opposed to imagining an America without Lincoln. We were going to abolish slavery anyway, and it may have been done without a massive expansion of federal power (along with his certainty that the feds could force people to be “better”), shutting down due process and the First Amendment in some cases, and even without the Civil War. There’s a reason Obama and other Democrats still cite Lincoln as a great American president; he set the stage for them (or really, I guess, the Whigs did since they were, arguably, progressive before the Progressive Party took shape).
Won’t that be a little late?
A woman with a wicked sense of humor would be nice, instead of these clones that you can’t tell apart.
Sinema hasn’t been bad. I wish the other seat from Arizona were up instead.
Still, there’s the risk that Sinema could go hard-left after being reelected. Senators tend to do that, moderate before they run for reelection, then become the radical work-horses of their party right after reelection. I think Sinema declared herself independent, running to the center in purple/red Arizona, but she still caucuses with the Democrats.
That’s ludicrous. Sinema stuck to her guns on the filibuster, left her party because it’s freaking crazy now, and didn’t bend one inch under intense pressure not just from the Democrat Party (both national and state) but from Democrat lunatics who followed her into bathrooms. Violence, even murder, is not unknown among the left, right?
This is NOT a person who will suddenly embrace the very people she willfully bucked and stood against. Do you know what kind of strength of will, of conviction, of principle that took? Standing up to the GOP is nothing, you get a strongly worded letter. Standing up to the Democrats, the party of personal destruction with literally no legal ramifications where you could be literally gunned down or tossed out a window or Arkancided, that took some serious balls. I like her.
See–this is what Republicans, conservatives, and right wing people do, doncha know?
They support Democrats and leftists over those nasty Republicans.
Silly right-wing nutjob, thinking Republicans would support your evil right wing causes.
Be more like Fuzzy. Defend Democrats.
Don’t you get tired of being ridiculous? I mean, seriously, you are such a sophomoric thinker that I am amazed you keep spewing your facile “thoughts” where we can all see them.
Sinema did ONE thing in her life that wasn’t the Democrat party line. ONE. It was to establish her credentials as an “independent.” Since then, she’s been as “independent” as Bernie Sanders, another “independent.” Don’t get suckered by the kabuki.
The one thing she did saved the Senate and, arguably, our country. Can you imagine what we would be dealing with if she caved and voted to end the filibuster? We’d have the Green New Deal as it was actually intended and not as it was snuck in under the “Inflation Reduction Act,” we’d have blanket amnesty, gun bans, the criminalization of speech (attempted more aggressively, anyway), abortion until (even after?) the moment of birth, socialized . . . everything. That “ONE thing” she did was monumental. Don’t you know that?
Sinema has turned out to be much more rational and sane than expected. Granted she is a democrat
Upvoted, I like her too. It’s just that I believe that when electing a legislator, party is almost all that matters. This could be an exception.
Sinema has voted for Democrats as judges – very reliably. She’s voted for extreme spending. She’s a LIBERAL. She also has some principles and she’s probably the best Democrat senator but she’s in no way a decent alternative to even a moderate Republican!
Sinema has been good on keeping the Senate intact, protecting the filibuster and standing firm against the most crazy pushback from her fellow Democrat travelers who insist that she “burn it all down” to do their bidding. I like her. Not that it matters what I think since I don’t live in AZ, but there is no way in hell I’d vote for crazy grifter and hack Kari Lake over Sinema. No. Way.
Tact is a female virtue.
Chamomile blooms in summer.
Intact was written “in tact.” And there’s
I keep thinking: Men are afraid of horses. They are afraid of horses because neither their professional integrity nor logic will take them to a horse, and because they do not know how to turn, deflect, a horse’s fear or rage. If Dobbin says, “You’d better get off right now, because I am going to kill you, wrangler!” you don’t of course ignore this, but it is possible to say, “Oh, I don’t think you really want to do that. Why don’t we try something else?” (Just as Moses’ wife said to Yahweh when Yahweh was intent on killing Moses.) As it happens, a talented young male rider can be as formidably equipped with equestrian tact as anyone, but in the general run of things in the middle and upper classes in this country, it is the young women who are more likely than the young men to come up with a tactful rather than frightened response, and when they become foolish about this later – silliness is a feminine failing – they will say that they knew the horse had good intentions all along.
For centuries, unable to prove Dobbin’s good intentions, men have instead proven their courage on horseback…
Vicki Hearne, _Bandit: Dossier of a Dangerous Dog_ Harper-Collins, NY, 1991, p. 221, 219
What?
How could the statement of tact be so powerful as to render you nonplussed?
I didn’t get it (still don’t) = nonplussed. So I just shot out another non sequitur (as that weirdo tact comment seemed–and still seems–out of left field to me).
As an aside, though: Is this a thing? Really? How cool is that?
You originally published “intact” as “in tact,” since silently edited. It was a fit time to mention that tact was a feminine virtue, especially since the rest of the comment was tactless. Sort of a reminder. Tactful, too.
Right, but that changes what how? I STILL don’t get your comment. Tact is a female virtue? What does that even mean?
And yes, Henry, moderators got edit buttons, but so what here? What the heck does what he said even MEAN?
Clams got legs!Moderators got edit buttons!
Not really. Men are far more likely to use tact in encounters than women b/c there’s always a low level threat of violence among men. Women don’t have the same degree of threat due to lingering cultural taboos. Through these are fading fast due to feminism gassing up modern women and encouraging their drift away from traditional, feminine behavior in favor of more aggressive, masculine behavior.
How did you get any sense out of that comment? I was nonplussed, so I just trotted out another non sequitur.
I was super introverted before I came out of my ugly ducking stage at 14 and so I developed good listening skills sitting on the fringes of the group conversations. Still more introverted than most people and so I still listen, observe and think more about what others are trying to communicate. It ain’t b/c I am any smarter or insightful, rather its due to practice/experience listening to others and that is way different than waiting on your own to speak while someone else is talking.
The gist of the excerpt was that there are situations where tact simply will never work, and that women are more likely than men to attempt tact in those situations regardless, and fail. Furthermore, when they fail, they are still likely to ascribe good intentions to their opponent, who never had any.
I think the excerpt is especially appropriate to Kari Lake. The moment she understands she is up against grizzlies, she doesn’t honey her words.
That says all we need to know about your allegiances. And reasoning ability.
I’d pay to get you in a room with Kari Lake for tea, or cocktails, or whatever you do. She has Steve Jobs-level charisma, and Ron Paul-level commitment to principle.
Like Ron Paul’s commitment to ending the Fed? It was a joke. He had a lawyer from the Board of Governors testify to Congress. He demanded to know, where’s all the gold. The lawyer said correctly that they don’t have any.
That was correct. Most of the gold is held by the NY Fed. (The Reserve Banks like the NY Fed are privately owned corporations. The Board of Governors is essentially governmental but works with those banks.) You can go see their gold if you take their tour. But Ron Paul didn’t have anyone from the NY Fed testify before Congress.
I wrote Ron Paul a letter once because he didn’t seem to understand how the Fed works, so I kindly explained it. He came back with a sort of braindead reply and kept up the same lines for public consumption.
You’re kidding, right? When Kari thought the money and power was in bashing Trump, that’s what she did all day, every day. The left didn’t want her. The establishment GOP didn’t want her. No one wanted her. What to do, what to do? When she figured out that no one likes her, she decided to jump on the Trump train. Magically, she was the complete opposite of the person she was before. Just. Like. That.
That is grift, my friend. She’s fake. Phony. And grotesque.
Don’t be a sucker.
Kari Lake would vote VASTLY more conservative than Sinema. They are not comparable. And some of Sinema’s “conservatism” – which is extremely thin – is rooted in her personal dislike for Joe Biden. Most of the time, though, she’s a very reliable liberal vote – and I’m an Arizonan.
Fuzzy:
It all comes down to THEIR VOTES.
ANY POLITICIAN can call themselves whatever they chose. BUT, THEIR VOTES ARE THEIR RECORD AND THEIR RECORD IS WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY REPRESENT
Just like Bernie Sanders, Joe Manchin, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins or Lisa Murkowski their RECORD is who they are. Manchin, Romney, Collins and Murkowski all want to be Republicans.
But Manchin won’t walk away from the Democrat party, even though it walked away from him.
Romney and Collins identify as Republicans. But a New England Republican is a contradiction: The New England Culture over rides the Republican thoughts on Economics, Culture, Fiscal and Defense policies.
The Murkowski family is out for power and they’ve built a decent base in Alaska, but they only identify as Republican .
Only Sanders is closest to his true self and we see Bernie’s influence all over the Democrat Party.
Simena? Look at her votes and with whom she caucuses .
What the U.S. Government needs more than anything else is a good laxative. “Paging Doctor Trump….”
I like Sinema. She may be a liberal with values I do not agree with. But she does seem to have INTEGRITY, which is rare on either side of the uniparty. I feel like she does what she says she will. I feel like she is confident enough in herself and her values that she does not need to have the (false) approbation of others. And that, I can respect. Bigly.
I would vote for Sinema over the rino squishes like Romney or Haley or McCain or McCarthy or others. At least you know what you are getting with her.
I agree with this. She has integrity. She will do what she says she will. But so will the hangman.
Hillary made no bones about what she would do, either, which is precisely why I voted for an orange someone who was a crapshoot. A 50% ally was better than 0%.
In Sinema, I get 0%. Grand Canyon land grab? All for it. Abortion funding? All for it. Gun restrictions? Give her more. Illegal immigration? She says, “I remain laser-focused on securing our border and protecting Arizona families.” Let’s give her the benefit of the doubt and postulate that she’s just ineffective. it’s still a zero.
When Lake first appeared on the political scene, she was appealing and seemed to have a grasp of things that mattered. And then she got more and more strident and angrier. She attacked anyone and any group that did not meet her level of anger. She then took up Trump’s “Take no prisoner” attitude with name-calling and insults. Many people think that a Senator should be a little more circumspect and refined. The left has given us enough Senators who are the bottom-of-the-class barrel. The Senate is the calm and thoughtful body of Congress, maybe she would be better in the House.
So in essence what you want is a Republican who plays along to get along right 😂
That in a nutshell…
You should know what’s in a nutshell….
Your nuts?
No, mailman, those were last seen in your mouth.
PIG.
I think what people want is a conservative who can get elected.
Lake has a chance, as long as Trump doesn’t endorse her.
How about not a crazy, foul-mouthed conservative?
No, I would want a person who could talk with me and not call me names or make absurd claims about my position. AZ is not a red state and if she expects to get elected she has to speak to all of her constituents not just the ultra-right. I take the same position with presidential candidates. When 67% of the public and 57% of Republicans do not want Trump to run what does that tell you? He speaks to his base and no one else. Let’s have the down votes magas!
OK.
What I like about Kari Lake is that she knows how to shoot out gaslights.
Reporters don’t dare confront her with bullshit questions or bullshit “facts.”
She will call them out on those every time, and embarrass them as they deserve to be embarrassed for dishonoring their profession and insulting our intelligence.
She’s been on the other side of the Lie Factory, she knows how it works, she knows what “journalists” fear, and she knows how to serve it up to them.
Is it tactful? Hell no. Neither is a FMJ between the eyes. The former makes the latter unnecessary. We’ve spared the rod on these liars too long.
The thing is, in the legislature, it really doesn’t matter if they’re great people or idiots, mainly what matters is whether they’re D or R. But I am more impressed with Sinema than with Lake on a personal level so it’s hard for me to choose. Fortunately I’m in NY so none of my votes matter except for local ones.
NY?? That explains it.
Here in Arizona, I’m glad Sinema has done 5% of the things right. But she’s a reliable vote for almost everything I despise in Democrats. Kari Lake almost won the governor’s race in a state that is now governed by the drooling idiot Katie Hobbs. It would only take a 1% change in the vote for Kari Lake to have won. I’m tired of people acting like Kari Lake was blown out of the water and/or is totally hated in Arizona. Her election fraud cases are the only ones I’ve seen that actually made sense: Maricopa County had some mighty odd looking things going on in signature verification, which is crucial in Arizona.
The senate is calm and thoughtful???????????????
More like somnolent and moronic.
We like that somnolent part, though. They are supposed to hit the brakes on the crazy of the moment and are supposed to slow crap down. We like that. Remember?
One word
Schumer
One reason, Trump. Remember Oz and Walker?
She got angrier the more evidence appeared of how massively the Dems cheated in the last election> Stealing the election not only from her, but Trump, and many other Republican candidates.
Then, the RNC couldn’t be arsed to do anything whatsoever about it, leaving the candidates and their supporters to fight it out in the courts on their own. Or to protect the American political prisoners now in Democrat jails for protesting the corruption.
So yeah, she was and is angry.
She’s making Trump’s mistake then. The American rule is that if you win an election through fraud, unless it’s proven right away, you won. The reason for the rule is that finality is more important to the stability of the system then accuracy.
It’s easy to make the case, furthermore, that accuracy is fairly low priority with respect to democracy. If the election is close enough to win by fraud, then about half will be happy and half will be unhappy whatever the outcome is. That’s a tiny difference, a handful of people in the balance. Finality on the other hand is what everything depends on.
While it’s unpalatable, I don’t entirely disagree on the finality idea.
What I think she is pissed off about, and what the rest of us should be pissed about, is that the RNC as a whole has done nothing to address the massive apparatus that committed the election fraud in the first place, thus it’s still out there to deal with next cycle.
What’s worse is that it appears the reason the childish Republicans won’t acknowledge the fraud is that it tends to vindicate Trump. Can’t have that.
well stated.
That would be McCarthy’s job along with the wide open border. Have you ever heard him mention either? J6 kangaroo court? J6 videos that he promised? He is what you get when you have a career politician. As long as they are in DC at our expense, they ae kings and we aren’t.
This is just evil.
You are saying that it is better to let evil win, just so that it can wear the skin of honesty and shamble about making a mockery of all that has gone before than it is to fight for honesty and truth no matter what evil may do to try to stop you.
No good can come from an illegitimate government. None. Because all they will undertake will be couched in their need to perpetuate their crime.
You must fight.
And if all must burn better to rebuild from ash that is clean than live on in evil.
Beyond a certain time, the problem isn’t right or wrong, it’s possible or impossible.
Suppose today someone found irrefutable proof that Obama was born in Kenya. What would you do about it? Unless you owned a time machine, you couldn’t possibly correct the damage.
Parallel to Kari Lake’s situation, AG candidate Abe Hamadeh also had his election stolen. He approached it exactly as others here have chided Lake for not doing — he collected his evidence, made the bare required minimum of pubic pronouncements, filed multiple lawsuits. He is actually closing in on electoral victory, but it is being slow-walked to the point it won’t matter. Courts are making outrageous rulings, e.g.:
When the swamp plays you like a Nigerian Prince, do you go over its head to take your case to the public or not? Lake did, Hamadeh didn’t. Apparently neither one gets you the win you deserve, but people who have never heard of Hamadeh are now aware of how Lake got screwed.
Did you hear about how all the ballot printers in Republican precincts only were misprogrammed to print the wrong size ballot? If it hadn’t been for Kari Lake, you wouldn’t have.
“Suppose today someone found irrefutable proof that Obama was born in Kenya. What would you do about it? Unless you owned a time machine, you couldn’t possibly correct the damage.”
Of course you can.
You make a point of highlighting what was done.
You prosecute all those who perpetrated the farce.
You vacate all policies, laws and EOs he issued.
And you make an example of him.
I believe treason is punishable by death.
The reason this is happening–
“AG candidate Abe Hamadeh also had his election stolen. He approached it exactly as others here have chided Lake for not doing — he collected his evidence, made the bare required minimum of pubic pronouncements, filed multiple lawsuits. He is actually closing in on electoral victory, but it is being slow-walked to the point it won’t matter. ”
is the same reason that stores are being looted with impunity.
Because WE DO NOTHING.
Looters NEED to be shot. Killed.
Traitors NEED to be hung. By the neck. Till they’re dead.
But they’re not. So this keeps happening and getting worse.
Why?
Because people think we’re ‘preserving stability’ by not reacting too harshly.
When the swamp plays you like a Nigerian prince, you drain it. You fill it with cement, and kill everything that lived in it and put up a huge sign that says ‘This wonderful place used to be a fetid, filthy sewage filled swamp, now it is a joy for all. Your tax dollars at work.
“If the election is close enough to win by fraud, then about half will be happy and half will be unhappy whatever the outcome is.”
I’m trying to square that with an election in which the dementia-riddled “winner” got far more votes than had ever been cast for any candidate in the entire history of the nation.
You would think that she would have learned a little from Trump’s experience and how he could not get a fair hearing in any court. But she didn’t and daily went on TV and raged about corruption and fraud. But instead of getting all of her evidence and then making the case, she tried to make it in public. Her case is not going anywhere and that’s why she is running for the Senate. If she loses in that election, expect more rants and no evidence. I think her election was stolen but the way she went about it is a certain loser.
You think her election was stolen yet fault her for trying to fight?
Are you mad?
How do we win, if we do not fight?
“When Lake first appeared on the political scene, she was appealing and seemed to have a grasp of things that mattered. And then she got more and more strident and angrier.”
And, of course, absolutely none of this was due to selective reportage… from the same cabal who conspired to make Trump look like an affable clown, until he actually won his nomination, at which point he became Literally Hitler.
It actually makes me quite sick when I hear Senators talking about “our friends across the aisle.” They across the aisle, certainly, but they are NOT your friends. Nor are they operating under the same delusion and they don’t consider you to be a friend. They know damn well that you’re an enemy to them and they might smile but that’s just a distraction until you turn your back so they can plunge the dagger in.
The best case scenario is that Sinema runs as an independent. A party loyalist like Gallego runs as a Democrat and that Lake or any conservative/populist runs as a Republican.
That would be an interesting race. Sinema would probably get a lot of the young liberal vote as well as the Romney/McCain establishment GOP vote.
Gallego would get the Democrat machine party loyalists as well as any libs who resent Sinema opposing parts of the Democrat power grab and totalitarian woke agenda.
Lake would get good turnout from conservative and populist voters who rightly feel the radical left and GOP turncoats are destroying the country.
Don’t know who would win but it would darn sure put the cards on the table. You want a clear choice between the options for the future you got it.
Well, yes. That’s precisely what’s happening.
Sinema is running as an independent. Gallego has a lock on the D column. Lake may or may not have a challenger for the R column. But Sinema is highly disadvantaged, either way.
What happens in Arizona if no candidate gets a majority?
Everything in Arizona is plurality.
I don’t mind that Lake seems strident. She got repeatedly cheated, and it gets tiresome hearing her repeatedly say it, but it was true.
I mind that she used to be a lefty.
After reading this thread from beginning to end, I need to watch a Hallmark movie just to re-balance my chi.
I recommend “The Good Witch.” The plot is unchallenging, and the heroine is easy on the eyes. Plus it’s a kick realizing that she’s gay in real life and watching her love interest be played by The Pretender’s monstrously evil pervert, Mr. Lyle. Dammit, there goes my chi again.
Sinema has voted for the Democrats agenda 93% of the time. That’s what you get when you vote Sinema. If you vote for her because you “like” her, you’re an idiot. You are voting for policies that you abhor because you “like” the Senator voting against your interests. I expected her to be a rabid zealot, like AOC, and have been very surprised that she’s been relatively sane on one or two high profile issues. But I’m not stupid enough to ever vote for someone that votes 93% with for the D’s agenda. I’d have to absolute HATE this country and everyone in it to further that agenda.
Here’s Biden’s spokesimbecile lauding her:
“Sinema “has voted with the president 93% of the time,” Jean-Pierre said during a Dec. 9 press conference. “She has worked with us on key priorities of this administration.”
She got the 93% figure from 538’s analysis of her voting record.
Kari Lake would be a solid Conservative. She’d represent the interests of her constituents (something none of their Senators have done for decades – since before McCain first lied to them for their votes). She’s also tremendous on messaging. Any issue, she easily dismantles the false premises the “reporters” pose with their biased questions, and then delivers a sound response that anyone can understand and virtually everyone supports.
Yeah but according to people like Fuzzy and co, she supports Trump therefore she must be terrible. Everything else pales in to insignificance with these “real” conservatives.
“You are voting for policies that you abhor because you “like” the Senator voting against your interests.”
Democrats do this in their sleep.
There’s this classic scene in PBS’s “Taking On The Kennedys,” where US House candidate Kevin Vigilante (R-RI) is working a senior citizens’ clambake. He gets into an issue discussion with one old lady. He brings up issues, explains that his position is X while his opponent’s is Y, and the woman agrees with X every time. Then the woman asks him who is opponent is, and he answers, “Patrick Kennedy.” The woman has a burst of enthusiasm upon hearing the name, and exclaims that of course she’ll be voting for the Kennedy.
The seat is definitely in play, whether Sinema runs or not. As an incumbent, she is in a shockingly weak position.
Pretty much no one on the Right likes her, outside of the Liz Cheney/Adam Kinzinger wing of the RINO establishment. She’s EQUALLY hated by Democrats. I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen a politician with better numbers (and only slightly) with independents than they have with either the D’s or the R’s.
https://newrepublic.com/post/169418/arizona-voters-hate-kyrsten-sinema-across-party-lines