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Judge Fines Trump $10,000 for ‘Partisan’ Remark Outside Courtroom

Judge Fines Trump $10,000 for ‘Partisan’ Remark Outside Courtroom

He was obviously talking about Michael Cohen.

President Donald Trump’s ex-lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified against him today in the New York fraud trial.

As he left for the morning break, Trump said, “This judge is a very partisan judge with a person who’s very partisan alongside him, perhaps much more partisan than he is.”

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, who implemented a gag order against Trump for maligning clerks and others, called Trump to the stand.

Engoron somehow got it in his head that Trump made a comment about principal law clerk Allison Greenfield. A post by Trump on Truth Social about her caused the gag order.

It sounds like Engoron was looking for an excuse to get Trump:

“Did you say, ‘This judge is a very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside of him?'” the judge asked Trump.

“Yes,” Trump replied, then claimed he’d been referring to Michael Cohen and Engoron.

“You sure you didn’t mean the person on the other side, my principal law clerk?” Engoron probed.

“Yes, I’m sure,” Trump insisted.

The judge excused Trump, who said “Thank you” as he walked back to the defense table, slouching with his head tilted down.

“I find the witness is not credible,” Engoron said before imposing the fine.

The judge wrapped up the 18-minute grill session with yet another warning:

“Don’t do it again or it will be worse.”

Garbage. Absolute GARBAGE. I think the judge is taking advantage of the word “alongside.”


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So the 1st Amendment is dead

He knows where he is and he knows what the NY judges are like so why does he keep doing this? If it is only money it may be worth it but if they have him arrested then it is a new ball game. Can you imagine what the appeals court in NY is like? The entire state is like Russia and he used to live there so he should be aware of what they can do to him.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to inspectorudy. | October 25, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    Someone needs to fight this BullSchiff

    804Hokie in reply to inspectorudy. | October 25, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    because these lawfare hacks deserve no respect, and should be defied at every opportunity.

    thad_the_man in reply to inspectorudy. | October 25, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    It’s a federal court in NY not a NY court.

    jakebizlaw in reply to inspectorudy. | October 25, 2023 at 6:13 pm

    If you want to nauseate yourself, read the NY Appellate Division opinion affirming Giuliani’s suspension from the bar for statements on 2020 election, only one of which was in a judicial proceeding and ambiguous on its face. Completely biased and vindictive.

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to inspectorudy. | October 25, 2023 at 6:16 pm

    He knows where he is and he knows what the NY judges are like so why does he keep doing this?

    Because Little Donnie cannot simply understand that under certain circumstances and at certain times shutting one’s mouth is probably a very prudent course of action.

      While I agree with that assessment, it seems wrong that the same government that is trying to imprison him is also preventing him from speaking out against them.

        DaveGinOly in reply to Sanddog. | October 26, 2023 at 1:24 am

        Lucifer has never heard of “prior restraint.” Trump knows he’ll get that money back, because he’s willing to spend even more to have the gag orders declared unconstitutional. That will come later, but it will come. The only thing a judge can do is tell someone involved in the proceeding that he’s not allowed to threaten jurors or officers of the court, nor to intimidate or influence witnesses and jurors. Trump’s comments are ad hominem attacks on the court, of a nature that any American should be able to make about government officials with impunity. The judge has seriously overstepped his authority.

          Hm. Perhaps ‘Standing’ is the key here. Appeals courts are squirrely about issuing opinions on decisions that *might* affect a defendant, but as of right now, President Trump *has* been directly and obviously harmed by this judge’s biased actions.

        inspectorudy in reply to Sanddog. | October 26, 2023 at 2:57 pm

        Both operations are to keep him off of the ballot. That’s why I can’t understand his actions. I know he is a fighter but a good fighter must know when to stand and fight and when to run or in this case be silent. It’s easy to say go get the judge but the judge has the power to arrest Trump and Trump would have to appeal to a corrupt appeals court to get out of jail. Does that sound smart?

      “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

      This is not one of those circumstances. He just got the judge to prove his point for less than the cost of a TV add.

      Compare it to the batch of lawyers who just plead ‘guilty’ to attempting to over turn the Georgia election. They may keep their law licenses but they’re basically done. I don’t think anyone will hire them now for anything.

    At some point it does not matter what they can or can’t do to you.

    wendybar in reply to inspectorudy. | October 26, 2023 at 5:19 am

    So, he is supposed to just take it?? When it is unconstitutional to begin with?? No wonder why the Republicans are losers, when you have people who won’t fight for their own freaking rights…never mind the rights of the rest of us.

      inspectorudy in reply to wendybar. | October 26, 2023 at 3:04 pm

      You are living proof of the old adage that says, “To represent yourself in court is to have a fool for a lawyer”. There are places where you can defend yourself and there are places when it is much wiser to remain silent. Every time Trump attacks the judges or prosecution, he only hurts himself. None of us will change our minds about him because of this ruckus but the left will. So in the end, what does he gain by doing this? It reminds me of why the NFL has a rule about back-talking to the refs during a game. In many instances, the player knows he has been wronged but backtalk and insults are not tolerated.

When will we see a special prosecutor appointed for the disreputable judge? That would be fun to watch.

2smartforlibs | October 25, 2023 at 5:25 pm

Election interference.

I’m assuming if you don’t pay the fine you will be tossed in jail.

If so Trump should spend about a week in jail as a political prisoner.

Secret Service will clear the entire floor of the jailhouse and bring him food.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Chitragupta. | October 25, 2023 at 5:43 pm


    The Democrat Stooge made his ruling, let him enforce it.

    I’d love to see the judge force Trump in jail without SS protection.

    The effeminate limp wrist judge will quickly back off, similar to the Democrat hack in DC when she was forced to back off her gag order.

He just proved Trump’s point. Seems superfetatious.

All of this to drive home the fact that there is only one true political party and one level of justice for its members…. just like in the old Soviet Union. There can be no questioning of the authority of The Party (see trial in “Chernobyl”)

    Gapper in reply to alaskabob. | October 25, 2023 at 6:28 pm

    That is exactly where we are. Its been building for decades. Most criminal courts operate with a guilty until proven innocent attitude. Judges and prosecutors are rarely held accountable for their actions. They know they can abuse people without repurcussion.

So why doesn’t Trump appeal the gag order?

I am wondering if this is a legal strategy to get the judge on the record being obviously bias and to show harm upon appeal?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | October 25, 2023 at 6:11 pm

Engoron needs to be thrown off the bench and sued into oblivion. He could also stand to do two or three decades of prison time for his clear abuse of the judicial system in his attempt to fix the American Presidential election.

This is all pathetic and sick. These leftist America-haters need to be excised from society and held fully accountable for their very, very serious crimes. Abusing government power is the worst crime one can commit, other than treason. These America-hating leftist dirtbags are doing both.

Just waiting for NY to build a guillotine

Thank you for giving him the standing to challenge your unconstitutional order, communist piece of s***.

I’m sorry but I am all out of trump outrage. We have a civilization to save not an ego to stroke.

    Mauiobserver in reply to trubtastic. | October 25, 2023 at 10:38 pm

    That makes sense.

    The leftist hatred has been partially refocused on supporting murder, rape and torture in Israel and the final solution for the Jews, so we should abandon outrage on the destruction of our legal system to crush Trump, populist supporters and pro-lifers.

    Just because the evil leftists have been exposed as supporting the final solution doesn’t mean we must or should ignore the imperative to save this country from leftist tyranny. The current regime and its henchmen and accomplices are imprisoning their enemies and confiscating their property. It is right and proper to protest create awareness and demonstrate the will to fight back against the destruction of our basic rights and our Republic.

    We can support both the survival of Israel (destruction of Hamas and if necessary, Hezbollah) along with rescuing America from the grip of leftist woke tyrants.

    Aarradin in reply to trubtastic. | October 26, 2023 at 3:00 am

    Political show trials like this are what destroys civilized nations.

    Even if you are the most rabid Trump hater on the planet, you ought to be disgusted with these trials that they are subjecting him to.

    If you cared at all about this country, that is.

    Azathoth in reply to trubtastic. | October 26, 2023 at 8:34 am

    So you think that saving our civilization includes dismantling the justice system in favor of a leftist reward system is what we need to do?

    Because the big trial on display is about Trump?

    They’re doing this to Trump to show us all that NO ONE is safe from this.

    There are hundreds of these trials going on –alongside the other kind, where their cronies get rewarded for their treason and criminality.

    It’s not just Trump.

    Wake up.

I like how prosecutors can make all the partisan remarks outside of courtrooms that they please, in interviews on the courthouse steps with reporters or on CNN/MSNBC or wherever, and there are never any “gag” orders on them.

Prosecutors can say anything they please in the lead up, and during, any trial in order to sway the potential jury pool (or actual jurors), and judges are perfectly fine with that.

Its only defendants that are prohibited from doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Bucky Barkingham | October 26, 2023 at 6:53 am

The New York legal system is where justice goes to die.

Why not stand on the Fifth Amendment? If the judge ordered him to answer those questions, then he’s got TWO constitutional violations going.

Cohen, who has been proven to have lied in court, is not a credible witness. The fact that I can state this clear and obvious fact but the former President of the United States cannot is a sad day for our Constitution.

(And yes, the prosecutor, judge, and that little minion law clerk are all obviously biased. Fine me, judge.)

Good or bad president … Trump is an idiot with a big mouth. Just get this shit over with so we can move on … I’m sick of it.

The judge has so far exceeded his authority at to become a “outlaw”, in the Common Law sense of the word, where an outlaw is someone who has placed himself outside the protection of the law.

If they think the law doesn’t apply to them, then so be it. Such people have not right to trial by jury. The concept of innocent until proven guilty does not apply to them and neither does the prohibition against summary execution.